Madden 09 - The Hype Machine kicks in

Mizzou B-ball fan · 03-26-2008, 08:48 AM

Never fear Madden fans. The developers have heard your cries for change to make Madden a better game. As a result, they are implementing a big change..............new announcers.........

http://awfulannouncing.blogspot.com/...-new-game.html

Anthony · 03-26-2008, 08:50 AM

wait, that's going to be the only major change? ooof.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 03-26-2008, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

wait, that's going to be the only major change? ooof.

Well, I'd guess we'll get the standard comments about 'rebuilding the game engine from the ground up' and 'DB AI that received a major overhaul' that we hear every year.

Groundhog · 03-26-2008, 05:15 PM

Maybe this will be the year we finally get referees on field, stat overlays, and kicking nets! You know, all those features that we had back in Madden 2004!

Mizzou B-ball fan · 03-27-2008, 12:44 PM

Another critical feature has arrived. Madden '09 Collector's Edition featuring both Madden '09 and Head Coach '09 in one package with 'exclusive videos' for the low price of $89.99.

http://www.businesswire.com/portal/s...26&newsLang=en

Eaglesfan27 · 03-27-2008, 12:48 PM

Interesting -

Previously Head Coach was announced for 4th quarter of 09, so that moves up the date for it.

- I think EA is actually doing one smart thing with the increased interaction btw Head Coach and Madden. I'm not buying it, but that will probably increase sales of Head Coach for those Madden players who want to be able to create their own plays.

Danny · 03-27-2008, 02:46 PM

It's an interview with the audio director, not the lead developer, what do you expect?

wishbone · 03-27-2008, 03:08 PM

I was at Gamestop a few weeks ago and they had a 5 foot tall, 4 foot wide shelf of Madden 09 pre-order cases. A group of 15-20 year old guys came in and said "I just bought 08 and 09 is out!?!?" and took it to the counter to buy it. The clerk talked him into a preorder 6 months in advance. The hype machine has been kicking.

Eaglesfan27 · 03-27-2008, 04:13 PM

According to this Gamespot article, the only way to get Head Coach 09 will be part of that Collector's Edition Bundle of Madden 09:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6188425...stnews;title;0

Flasch186 · 03-27-2008, 04:17 PM

ooof, doesnt bode well for the HC game's quality no?

Eaglesfan27 · 03-27-2008, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Flasch186

ooof, doesnt bode well for the HC game's quality no?

I think it also doesn't bode well for HC's sales.

cartman · 03-28-2008, 11:53 AM

That little blurb about being able to design plays in HC and import them into Madden does sound interesting. If they can successfully implement it, that might make things a bit interesting.

Kodos · 03-28-2008, 12:12 PM

Sounds like there will be no Madden 2009 for the PC.

http://football-freaks.com/forums/in...howtopic=23298

wade moore · 03-28-2008, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

Sounds like there will be no Madden 2009 for the PC.

http://football-freaks.com/forums/in...howtopic=23298

meh.

Raiders Army · 03-28-2008, 12:18 PM

I'm glad that Gary's game is coming out then.

Maple Leafs · 03-28-2008, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Well, I'd guess we'll get the standard comments about 'rebuilding the game engine from the ground up' and 'DB AI that received a major overhaul' that we hear every year.

I like Madden and EA in general, but it's the same every year.

EA: "This year, we've fixed the AI. It will finally be realistic, not crappy like it's been every other year."

Us: "Um, didn't you say that last year?"

EA: "We lied last year. But this year... it's going to be awesome."

aran · 03-28-2008, 02:59 PM

EA: "buy our game because it's about football and has new rosters and you're sheep hypnotized by our marketing department."
Everyone: "OK. This is the best game ever."

Kodos · 03-28-2008, 03:17 PM

EA: Like you have any other choice. HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

aran · 03-28-2008, 03:36 PM

EA: Enter the code "SkyDog" upon purchase and receive a free inflatable dolphin.

Izulde · 03-28-2008, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos

Sounds like there will be no Madden 2009 for the PC.

http://football-freaks.com/forums/in...howtopic=23298

Of course not.

Daivd Winters already bought the exclusive license for beer tents in football games, so EA knew it wasn't even worth trying.

aran · 03-28-2008, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Izulde

David Winters already bought the exclusive license for beer tents in football games, so EA knew it wasn't even worth trying.

I hear he's also got the exclusive license for shit.

Anthony · 03-28-2008, 03:45 PM

i'll buy it. i just want a new football game every year to play online with. i don't need a console game for franchise purposes.

Maple Leafs · 03-28-2008, 04:03 PM

According to this, Head Coach is only going to be part of the Collector's Edition of Madden, not a standalone game. First I've heard of it, may have been posted elsewhere.

http://www.gamefocus.ca/?nav=new&nid=345

A-Husker-4-Life · 03-28-2008, 06:19 PM

Long live FOF and text based gaming..

Surtt · 04-17-2008, 11:25 AM

from gamestop.com's blog

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Because we're celebrating our new weekly feature, we thought it would be fitting to tell you about the new User-Controlled Celebrations. Gone are the days of just hoping your player will celebrate after a touchdown. Now you will be in control after a touchdown, and a simple push of the "celebrate" button will allow your player to spring into action. If that player happens to be known for his elaborate celebrations, then he'll perform some of those that you've seen him do in real life. For example, a player like Terrell Owens has more than 10 of his familiar celebrations available.

Not only will unique players have unique celebrations, but different "Hot Spots" in the end zone will feature different celebrations, as well, like dunking over the goal post or hot-shotting in the corner of the end zone. Specific stadiums will even feature their own local celebrations. Can you say, "Lambeau Leap?" We've also been told that an extra "hidden" control will let you steal an opponent's celebration so you can really rub it in. However, you'll have to discover that one on your own.

I am sure this will revitalize the series and bring back all the people who have stopped buying it because of all the bugs.

Synovia · 04-17-2008, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by cartman

That little blurb about being able to design plays in HC and import them into Madden does sound interesting. If they can successfully implement it, that might make things a bit interesting.

I'm confused. I seem to remember being able to design plays in Madden '04.

Logan · 04-17-2008, 12:08 PM

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Not only will unique players have unique celebrations, but different "Hot Spots" in the end zone will feature different celebrations, as well, like dunking over the goal post or hot-shotting in the corner of the end zone.

Nothing says NFL like somebody taking a hit of laced heroin.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 04-17-2008, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Surtt

I am sure this will revitalize the series and bring back all the people who have stopped buying it because of all the bugs.

It's amazing just how oblivious the company and developers are to the reason for the continued drop in sales. For the past two years, they've added unneeded features while failing to address the core problems and then watched their sales fall by double-digit percentages. I'm guessing this 'new' feature will make it three for three. Unbelievable.

Synovia · 04-17-2008, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

It's amazing just how oblivious the company and developers are to the reason for the continued drop in sales. For the past two years, they've added unneeded features while failing to address the core problems and then watched their sales fall by double-digit percentages. I'm guessing this 'new' feature will make it three for three. Unbelievable.

This is the problem that happens when you don't make the developement people accountable to the customer service people. If the service division has no way to force the development division to do things, this happens. Developement works on whatever it wants, whether or not the clientel actually wants that.

Surtt · 04-17-2008, 12:35 PM

I still can not figure out what they were thinking with the "create-a-fan" crap.

It seems like "the sims" people have taken over the company and have their fingers in every game now.

Kodos · 04-17-2008, 12:36 PM

Oh YEAH! My foam finger is going to be HUGE!

Ajaxab · 04-17-2008, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

It's amazing just how oblivious the company and developers are to the reason for the continued drop in sales. For the past two years, they've added unneeded features while failing to address the core problems and then watched their sales fall by double-digit percentages. I'm guessing this 'new' feature will make it three for three. Unbelievable.

Agreed. But it's tough to market gameplay 'fixes.' Even EA's marketing department would have a hard time selling the fact that players won't fumble as much anymore if that becomes a change in the game engine. So we end up with 50 new end zone celebrations. Yippee. Count me as another who won't be picking this one up.

Kodos · 04-17-2008, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ajaxab

Agreed. But it's tough to market gameplay 'fixes.' Even EA's marketing department would have a hard time selling the fact that players won't fumble as much anymore if that becomes a change in the game engine. So we end up with 50 new end zone celebrations. Yippee. Count me as another who won't be picking this one up.

So you would say that the game is not evolving fast enough, and is not the result of Intelligent Design?

Mizzou B-ball fan · 04-17-2008, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ajaxab

Agreed. But it's tough to market gameplay 'fixes.' Even EA's marketing department would have a hard time selling the fact that players won't fumble as much anymore if that becomes a change in the game engine. So we end up with 50 new end zone celebrations. Yippee. Count me as another who won't be picking this one up.

No, but they'd get much better word of mouth through the internet. Right now, they're getting pounded by the gaming communities, which should be their core audience.

Logan · 04-17-2008, 02:07 PM

Should. Isn't.

Gary Gorski · 04-17-2008, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

I'm glad that Gary's game is coming out then.

I'd just like to say that I think RA should post more often

gstelmack · 04-17-2008, 04:29 PM

So I've finally got Madden 08 and am playing superstar with my NCAA 08 QB. I'm not excited for 09 at all, unless:

1) My WRs start going at least as hard for the ball as the DBs do.
2) My HB figures out what a "hole" is.
3) LBs stop having football magnets in their hands.
4) I stop getting stupid repeated e-mails every freakin' week that have no bearing on gameplay. How do I stop being a loner Mr. GM? I have no clue, and you won't tell me!
5) I loved getting the draft e-mail. In the offseason. After a full season. Congratulating me on being drafted. You know, almost a year ago.
6) Stop hanging on me when I decide not to wait for all the silly pre- and post-game stuff and try to click through things! And definitely don't hang just after I won a tight game! (I of course lost on the replay after reboot)
7) Who thought it was a good idea to show me PROFILE records when I'm in Superstar? Where's the season records of the teams playing?
8) Where's my "turn off the stupid ringbuilder feature" option?
9) What are these "trophies" it tells me about after my game is over, which ones did I earn, and how did I earn them?

MizzouRah · 04-17-2008, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Surtt

from gamestop.com's blog

I am sure this will revitalize the series and bring back all the people who have stopped buying it because of all the bugs.

Wow.. what a joke.

Thankfully we have some football text sims to choose from.

Galaxy · 04-17-2008, 05:21 PM

Any word on 2k's non-NFL game?

Big Fo · 04-17-2008, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

Any word on 2k's non-NFL game?

There isn't going to be one this season.

Galaxy · 04-17-2008, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Fo

There isn't going to be one this season.

JediKooter · 04-17-2008, 05:32 PM

If this version doesn't allow my superstar to go to strip clubs and get DUIs or take some sort of banned supplement, I'm not buying it.

How can EA even claim their game is realistic without being able to do any of that stuff.

Bring back Joe Montana football...

Groundhog · 04-17-2008, 05:57 PM

I have to say, NCAA 09 looks pretty, at least. As for Madden, eh. I'll probably still buy it like a sucker.

Ajaxab · 04-18-2008, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

So you would say that the game is not evolving fast enough, and is not the result of Intelligent Design?

Nice...

sabotai · 04-18-2008, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

7) Who thought it was a good idea to show me PROFILE records when I'm in Superstar? Where's the season records of the teams playing?

It does this in Franchise too, and it has to be the dumbest design decision ever. That, and the trophies.

sabotai · 04-18-2008, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Fo

There isn't going to be one this season.

I bought last year's when it dropped to $20, and even if it did have franchise (which is what everyone, including me, focused on), I still wouldn't get it. The gameplay felt a bit unresponsive, it felt really unbalanced and the AI was, at times, far more terrible than any AI I've seen in any Madden game. It wasn't NFL 2k5 without the NFL and franchise, it was IMO, in almost every way except graphically, several steps behind NFL 2k5.

I may become a leper with this comment, but Madden 08 was far better than APF 2k8 in every way (but for the record, I hated Madden 08).

So unless I hear "OMFG this game is actually super awesome for the first time ever" from at least a dozen people on this forum that usually hate Madden (and NCAA), I'm passing on all football games this year.

Except maybe Backbreaker, even though that'll be just a tech demo.

Kodos · 04-18-2008, 02:50 PM

I bought All Pro for full price to support 2K's football efforts. Lotta good that did...

Desnudo · 04-18-2008, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

Maybe this will be the year we finally get referees on field, stat overlays, and kicking nets! You know, all those features that we had back in Madden 2004!

Coding kicking nets and refs would take away time from coding TO end zone celebrations

Desnudo · 04-18-2008, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Groundhog

Maybe this will be the year we finally get referees on field, stat overlays, and kicking nets! You know, all those features that we had back in Madden 2004!

Coding kicking nets and refs would take away time from coding TO end zone celebrations

Kodos · 04-18-2008, 05:06 PM

It's an entirely different kind of flying, altogether.

03-26-2008, 05:15 PM	#4
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03-27-2008, 12:44 PM	#5
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	Another critical feature has arrived. Madden '09 Collector's Edition featuring both Madden '09 and Head Coach '09 in one package with 'exclusive videos' for the low price of $89.99. http://www.businesswire.com/portal/s...26&newsLang=en Last edited by Mizzou B-ball fan : 03-27-2008 at 12:45 PM.

03-27-2008, 12:48 PM	#6
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Interesting - Previously Head Coach was announced for 4th quarter of 09, so that moves up the date for it. - I think EA is actually doing one smart thing with the increased interaction btw Head Coach and Madden. I'm not buying it, but that will probably increase sales of Head Coach for those Madden players who want to be able to create their own plays. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

03-27-2008, 02:46 PM	#7
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	It's an interview with the audio director, not the lead developer, what do you expect? Last edited by Danny : 03-27-2008 at 02:46 PM.

03-27-2008, 04:13 PM	#9
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	According to this Gamespot article, the only way to get Head Coach 09 will be part of that Collector's Edition Bundle of Madden 09: http://www.gamespot.com/news/6188425...stnews;title;0 __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen. Last edited by Eaglesfan27 : 03-27-2008 at 04:13 PM.

03-26-2008, 08:50 AM	#2
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	wait, that's going to be the only major change? ooof.

03-27-2008, 03:08 PM	#8
wishbone High School JV Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hillsboro OR	I was at Gamestop a few weeks ago and they had a 5 foot tall, 4 foot wide shelf of Madden 09 pre-order cases. A group of 15-20 year old guys came in and said "I just bought 08 and 09 is out!?!?" and took it to the counter to buy it. The clerk talked him into a preorder 6 months in advance. The hype machine has been kicking.

03-27-2008, 04:17 PM	#10
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	ooof, doesnt bode well for the HC game's quality no? __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

03-28-2008, 11:53 AM	#12
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	That little blurb about being able to design plays in HC and import them into Madden does sound interesting. If they can successfully implement it, that might make things a bit interesting. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

03-28-2008, 12:12 PM	#13
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Sounds like there will be no Madden 2009 for the PC. http://football-freaks.com/forums/in...howtopic=23298 __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties. Last edited by Kodos : 03-28-2008 at 12:12 PM.

03-28-2008, 12:18 PM	#15
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	I'm glad that Gary's game is coming out then.

03-28-2008, 02:59 PM	#17
aran High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Jersey, USA	EA: "buy our game because it's about football and has new rosters and you're sheep hypnotized by our marketing department." Everyone: "OK. This is the best game ever."

03-28-2008, 03:17 PM	#18
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	EA: Like you have any other choice. HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

03-28-2008, 03:36 PM	#19
aran High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Jersey, USA	EA: Enter the code "SkyDog" upon purchase and receive a free inflatable dolphin.

03-28-2008, 03:45 PM	#22
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	i'll buy it. i just want a new football game every year to play online with. i don't need a console game for franchise purposes.

03-28-2008, 04:03 PM	#23
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	According to this, Head Coach is only going to be part of the Collector's Edition of Madden, not a standalone game. First I've heard of it, may have been posted elsewhere. http://www.gamefocus.ca/?nav=new&nid=345 __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

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04-17-2008, 12:35 PM	#30
Surtt College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2003	I still can not figure out what they were thinking with the "create-a-fan" crap. It seems like "the sims" people have taken over the company and have their fingers in every game now. __________________ “The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.” United States Supreme Court Justice Louis D. Brandeis Last edited by Surtt : 04-17-2008 at 12:35 PM.

04-17-2008, 12:36 PM	#31
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Oh YEAH! My foam finger is going to be HUGE! __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

04-17-2008, 02:07 PM	#35
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Should. Isn't.

04-17-2008, 04:29 PM	#37
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	So I've finally got Madden 08 and am playing superstar with my NCAA 08 QB. I'm not excited for 09 at all, unless: 1) My WRs start going at least as hard for the ball as the DBs do. 2) My HB figures out what a "hole" is. 3) LBs stop having football magnets in their hands. 4) I stop getting stupid repeated e-mails every freakin' week that have no bearing on gameplay. How do I stop being a loner Mr. GM? I have no clue, and you won't tell me! 5) I loved getting the draft e-mail. In the offseason. After a full season. Congratulating me on being drafted. You know, almost a year ago. 6) Stop hanging on me when I decide not to wait for all the silly pre- and post-game stuff and try to click through things! And definitely don't hang just after I won a tight game! (I of course lost on the replay after reboot) 7) Who thought it was a good idea to show me PROFILE records when I'm in Superstar? Where's the season records of the teams playing? 8) Where's my "turn off the stupid ringbuilder feature" option? 9) What are these "trophies" it tells me about after my game is over, which ones did I earn, and how did I earn them? __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

04-17-2008, 05:21 PM	#39
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	Any word on 2k's non-NFL game?

04-17-2008, 05:32 PM	#42
JediKooter Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Diego via Sausalito via San Jose via San Diego	If this version doesn't allow my superstar to go to strip clubs and get DUIs or take some sort of banned supplement, I'm not buying it. How can EA even claim their game is realistic without being able to do any of that stuff. Bring back Joe Montana football... __________________ I'm no longer a Chargers fan, they are dead to me Coming this summer to a movie theater near you: The Adventures of Jedikooter: Part 4

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Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	I have to say, NCAA 09 looks pretty, at least. As for Madden, eh. I'll probably still buy it like a sucker. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

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