Vick Sentenced to 23 Months For Dog Fighting

duckman · 07-17-2007, 04:28 PM

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Michael Vick has been indicted by a federal grand jury in connection with the dogfighting probe of his house in Virginia.

The Falcons quarterback was indicted for conspiracy to travel in interstate commerce in aid of unlawful activities and to sponsor a dog in animal fighting venture in U.S. District Court for the Eastern District in Richmond, Va.

Three others -- Purnell Peace, Quanis Phillips and Tony Taylor -- also were indicted by the grand jury on the same charges.

MikeVic · 07-17-2007, 04:33 PM

So this means... he'll miss the season or what?

Lathum · 07-17-2007, 04:34 PM

Awesome, if he is guilty I hope he gets the book thrown at him.

MrBigglesworth · 07-17-2007, 04:38 PM

At least the Falcons have that good backup, Schaub.

D'oh!

dj_morton · 07-17-2007, 04:38 PM

He's overrated

Honolulu_Blue · 07-17-2007, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Awesome, if he is guilty I hope he gets the book thrown at him.

+1.

This news makes me very happy. If he's found guilty, I shall be happier.

Welcome to the Joey Harrington era, Falcon fans!!

larrymcg421 · 07-17-2007, 04:40 PM

There are plenty of good flights available from Miami to Atlanta. Culpepper should get on one now.

Lathum · 07-17-2007, 04:44 PM

Reading the article on ESPN it doesn't look good for Vick

Young Drachma · 07-17-2007, 04:44 PM

Wow. Not surprising, given all of the b.s. they were going through to try to nab him on something.

Good use of federal money, IMHO.

Fidatelo · 07-17-2007, 04:48 PM

I hope he goes to jail for a long time for this crap.

Travis · 07-17-2007, 04:53 PM

Did I just miss the day at school where stuff like this was taught to be cool, fun or somehow appropriate? Just reading the way they would deal with a losing dog if it didn't die in the ring is enough to turn my stomach, let alone actually being at one of these events.

And yes, I know I'm a hypocrite because of the burger I had at lunch and all that, but I just can't twist my brain around finding the enjoyment in something like this for the "sport" of it.

Eaglesfan27 · 07-17-2007, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

So this means... he'll miss the season or what?

I doubt it. The legal system moves slowly. It probably won't go to trial until after the season is over and I'm not sure the commish will suspend him until after the trial.

Eaglesfan27 · 07-17-2007, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis

And yes, I know I'm a hypocrite because of the burger I had at lunch and all that, but I just can't twist my brain around finding the enjoyment in something like this for the "sport" of it.

I think there is a huge difference between eating an animal to nourish onself and watching two fight for "sport." If he is guilty, I hope Vick goes to a rough jail.

Eaglesfan27 · 07-17-2007, 05:04 PM

Watching ESPN, some reporter reading information from the indictment indicates that Vick and his associates killed 8 dogs that were unable to perform by "drowning, hanging, and beating them into the ground." Assuming he is guilty, I hope he never plays another down in the NFL.

Ben E Lou · 07-17-2007, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I doubt it. The legal system moves slowly. It probably won't go to trial until after the season is over and I'm not sure the commish will suspend him until after the trial.

That might give D.J. the chance to get ready. He'd be one of very few guys that could keep the area interested in the Falcons.

Karlifornia · 07-17-2007, 05:06 PM

Better buy this jersey while you have a chance

EDIT: whoops...link doesn't work...It's a Vick #7 jersey with the name "OOKIE" on the back

st.cronin · 07-17-2007, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Watching ESPN, some reporter reading information from the indictment indicates that Vick and his associates killed 8 dogs that were unable to perform by "drowning, hanging, and beating them into the ground." Assuming he is guilty, I hope he never plays another down in the NFL.

my god

MrBigglesworth · 07-17-2007, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I doubt it. The legal system moves slowly. It probably won't go to trial until after the season is over and I'm not sure the commish will suspend him until after the trial.

What does the CBA say about this? Was Pacman already found guilty, before he was suspended? The commish, with his dedication to cleaning up the NFL, might just be willing to suspend him if he can get away with it.

Lathum · 07-17-2007, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBigglesworth

What does the CBA say about this? Was Pacman already found guilty, before he was suspended? The commish, with his dedication to cleaning up the NFL, might just be willing to suspend him if he can get away with it.

Pacman wasn't guilty. I believe the comish can do what he wants here.

Ben E Lou · 07-17-2007, 05:10 PM

Live feed of Atlanta sports talk radio:

http://790thezone.com/multimedia/listen_live.aspx

Lathum · 07-17-2007, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

Live feed of Atlanta sports talk radio:

http://790thezone.com/multimedia/listen_live.aspx

I can only imagine what they are saying.

Honolulu_Blue · 07-17-2007, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I doubt it. The legal system moves slowly. It probably won't go to trial until after the season is over and I'm not sure the commish will suspend him until after the trial.

This is true. His trial wont be for a long, long time. It will be interesting to see how the Commish treats this. If I recall, he and Vick had some meeting right before the draft where Vick assured him everything was fine. Goddell has shown that he is more than willing to suspend players before they have had their day in court. Though, in each of those cases, the players were repeat offenders.

Regardless of whether he is suspended or unable to play for legal reasons, it should be one hell of a distraction for Vick and the rest of the Falcons.

JediKooter · 07-17-2007, 05:12 PM

Boy, that trade San Diego made that landed them LT and Brees is looking better and better each year.

Noop · 07-17-2007, 05:12 PM

Wow. Some of you are...

sabotai · 07-17-2007, 05:13 PM

I can't understand how or why anyone would get enjoyment out of something like dog fighting, and how a person can be so cruel to an animal to drown them or beat them into the ground. I hope I never do. And I hope Vick goes to jail for a long, long time.

Ben E Lou · 07-17-2007, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I can only imagine what they are saying.

I'm rather curious. The Stews were pretty much hilarious when this first came up, jumping down the throats of Vick's posse for being golddiggers who should have stepped up from day one and taken the blame. So far, it sounds like they're waiting to get a feel for the public reaction in the A-T-L, and they'll play to that.

sabotai · 07-17-2007, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

Wow. Some of you are...

Are what?

Eaglesfan27 · 07-17-2007, 05:16 PM

I'm curious about how Noop was going to finish that too.

bulletsponge · 07-17-2007, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Awesome, if he is guilty I hope he gets thrown into a pit of trained attack dogs.

fixed for ya

Radii · 07-17-2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

Wow. Some of you are...

why bother posting?

Lathum · 07-17-2007, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

Are what?

please, do tell

gkb · 07-17-2007, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Watching ESPN, some reporter reading information from the indictment indicates that Vick and his associates killed 8 dogs that were unable to perform by "drowning, hanging, and beating them into the ground." Assuming he is guilty, I hope he never plays another down in the NFL.

I completely agree with you.

I don't get the whole dog fighting thing and listening to sports talk show callers try to defend it by comparing it to the UFC makes no sense.

MrBigglesworth · 07-17-2007, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

I'm rather curious. The Stews were pretty much hilarious when this first came up, jumping down the throats of Vick's posse for being golddiggers who should have stepped up from day one and taken the blame. So far, it sounds like they're waiting to get a feel for the public reaction in the A-T-L, and they'll play to that.

I was just listening and they were talking about movies or something, and Flavor of Love. Atlanta sports talk radio is a lot different than Philly sports talk radio.

larrymcg421 · 07-17-2007, 05:29 PM

Wow. Noop is...

Ben E Lou · 07-17-2007, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBigglesworth

I was just listening and they were talking about movies or something, and Flavor of Love. Atlanta sports talk radio is a lot different than Philly sports talk radio.

They're now talking/arguing about it. Like I said, I think they're getting a feel for what the audience is expecting from them. Remember, this story *just* broke a few minutes ago.

Crapshoot · 07-17-2007, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I think there is a huge difference between eating an animal to nourish onself and watching two fight for "sport." If he is guilty, I hope Vick goes to a rough jail.

"".
Its the same reason I don't get hunting for fun, vs. hunting for food. I'm not sure when killing something was seen as a "fun" activity.

ISiddiqui · 07-17-2007, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

There are plenty of good flights available from Miami to Atlanta. Culpepper should get on one now.

Yep... and Petrino should be paying for the flight. Now, it may take until next season to have Vick convicted, but Goodell may just suspend him at any time.

Travis · 07-17-2007, 05:34 PM

Comparing it to UFC? Wow, I hadn't heard any arguments like that, but I've really only read articles/discussion here and had talked about it with a group of my friends, most of whom are UFC fans, so probably very good reason none of us made that "leap".

Honolulu_Blue · 07-17-2007, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gkb

I completely agree with you.

I don't get the whole dog fighting thing and listening to sports talk show callers try to defend it by comparing it to the UFC makes no sense.

You can see where people would try to draw parallels between the two, but the significant difference is that the UFC guys had a choice. They chose to make a living trying to fight.

Those dogs had no choice. A dog's fate is pretty much at the hands of its owners. A dog has very little control of what happens to it and is completely dependent on the mercy (or lack thereof) of people.

st.cronin · 07-17-2007, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

They're now talking/arguing about it. Like I said, I think they're getting a feel for what the audience is expecting from them. Remember, this story *just* broke a few minutes ago.

They couldn't see this coming? Seemed inevitable to me.

larrymcg421 · 07-17-2007, 05:36 PM

Plus, I don't know of losers in UFC getting strangled and buried in someone's backyard.

Honolulu_Blue · 07-17-2007, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Yep... and Petrino should be paying for the flight. Now, it may take until next season to have Vick convicted, but Goodell may just suspend him at any time.

Yes, because that lethal one-two punch of Culpepper and Harrington worked out so well for the Dolphins last year...

Ben E Lou · 07-17-2007, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

They couldn't see this coming? Seemed inevitable to me.

It would be very difficult to understand the A-T-L unless you'd ever lived there. Over 90% of my adult life has been spent there, and I honestly am not sure what the reaction of a good number of fans will be if he's on the field this fall.

path12 · 07-17-2007, 05:37 PM

I don't think there would be much fuss at all if Goodell suspended him based on the indictment. This is the sort of crime that most agree is horrendous.

Well, except in Atlanta maybe.

larrymcg421 · 07-17-2007, 05:38 PM

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Yes, because that lethal one-two punch of Culpepper and Harrington worked out so well for the Dolphins last year...

Better to take a chance that Culpepper may be healthy than put your trust in Harrington. At the very least, Culpepper can work with Shockley and help get him ready. If I was a Falcons fan, I wouldn't want Harrington showing Shockley anything.

Crapshoot · 07-17-2007, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

It would be very difficult to understand the A-T-L unless you'd ever lived there. Over 90% of my adult life has been spent there, and I honestly am not sure what the reaction of a good number of fans will be if he's on the field this fall.

Now I'm genuinely curious - what do you mean? As in, a large majority won't give a shit, or that they are unpredictable?

Honolulu_Blue · 07-17-2007, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Better to take a chance that Culpepper may be healthy than put your trust in Harrington. At the very least, Culpepper can work with Shockley and help get him ready. If I was a Falcons fan, I wouldn't want Harrington showing Shockley anything.

Harrington could show Shockley how to tickle the ivories.

st.cronin · 07-17-2007, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

It would be very difficult to understand the A-T-L unless you'd ever lived there. Over 90% of my adult life has been spent there, and I honestly am not sure what the reaction of a good number of fans will be if he's on the field this fall.

That's fine, I was just responding to you saying that this *just* broke. It may have just happened, but we've known this was going to happen for, what, a month now? If I were in the media I think I'd have my take ready.

st.cronin · 07-17-2007, 05:42 PM

The UFC comps aren't especially helpful, for this reason, too: That's a niche sport, that a lot of sports fans find repugnant.

Lathum · 07-17-2007, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

I don't think there would be much fuss at all if Goodell suspended him based on the indictment. This is the sort of crime that most agree is horrendous.

Well unless you're Noop.

fixed

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Travis Pro Rookie Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Canada eh	Did I just miss the day at school where stuff like this was taught to be cool, fun or somehow appropriate? Just reading the way they would deal with a losing dog if it didn't die in the ring is enough to turn my stomach, let alone actually being at one of these events. And yes, I know I'm a hypocrite because of the burger I had at lunch and all that, but I just can't twist my brain around finding the enjoyment in something like this for the "sport" of it. __________________ "I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." - Rogers Hornsby

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