I can never remember the difference between...

Raiders Army · 08-22-2005, 09:17 AM

right and left politics. Is the right conservative and the left liberal?

port and starboard. Is port right and starboard left?

Does anyone else have difficulty differentiating two things which mean opposite sides and can't remember which is which?

JonInMiddleGA · 08-22-2005, 09:55 AM

I can't get port & starboard right consistently -- I think port is left, because occasionally there's a reference to a "portsider" aka lefty reliever ... but I don't always think of that example when I need it.

Coffee Warlord · 08-22-2005, 09:57 AM

Port is indeed left.

Glengoyne · 08-22-2005, 10:10 AM

Port is left. It is shorter than starboard, with only four letters. Left is shorter than right, and it also has only four letters. Thats how I used to remember, and probably still how I subconsciously translate port and starboard.

Left v Right for politics. Hmm Remember that the West Coast when you look at a map is the left coast. The New Yorkers are liberal in their own right, but over here on the left coast even the moderate liberals are somewhat to the left of the salad fork.

That salad fork bit is a George Will line. I've been trying to work it in for months.

TredWel · 08-22-2005, 10:17 AM

Left = Liberal
Right = Republican

Raiders Army · 08-22-2005, 10:18 AM

Ah...many thanks. I will never mess these up again.

MIJB#19 · 08-22-2005, 10:31 AM

Well duh, there is no difference.
The USA has no left and right politics.
It's all right wing stuff.

WSUCougar · 08-22-2005, 10:36 AM

Port is also referred to as "larboard" (L-word = left), if that helps any.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 08-22-2005, 11:23 AM

Icant tell the difference between butter and I cant believe its not butter.

JonInMiddleGA · 08-22-2005, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by WSUCougar

Port is also referred to as "larboard" (L-word = left), if that helps any.

Y'know, I never thought about it before, but the only place I can recall ever hearing "larboard" used (other than this thread of course) is on the Pirates of the Carribean attraction at WDW. "Show 'em ye larboard side dearie" is said to the redhead at the bride auction.

Raiders Army · 08-22-2005, 12:42 PM

Also, FWIW, righty-tighty and lefty-loosey doesn't always work. I tried to turn on the water for our outdoor hose at my dad's, but it didn't work. My brother told me that valve didn't work that way. He was right.

Warhammer · 08-22-2005, 01:07 PM

The easy way to remember is right = correct = conservative politics

Karlifornia · 08-22-2005, 02:18 PM

Radical->Liberal->Moderate->Conservative->Reactionary

aran · 08-22-2005, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warhammer

The easy way to remember is right = correct = conservative politics

heh. Left -> left out in the cold -> liberals?

TredWel · 08-22-2005, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIJB#19

Well duh, there is no difference.
The USA has no left and right politics.
It's all right wing stuff.

It took me three or four reads of this before I realized it wasn't meant to be a haiku.

BigJohn&TheLions · 08-22-2005, 06:28 PM

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

Telle · 08-22-2005, 06:40 PM

The ship LEFT the PORT. That's how I was taught to remember it.

Glengoyne · 08-23-2005, 03:36 AM

Oh I thought of this thread when another thing that I have trouble keeping straight popped up.

Does a Left handed pitcher want to face a right haded batter, or does a right handed batter want to face a left handed pitcher?

I mean I know you want a lefty to face a lefty....but I can't remember which manager(batting or fielding team) has the advantage.

I usually work through it to come to a conclusion....but I'm hoping there is a better way.

JeffR · 08-23-2005, 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warhammer

The easy way to remember is right = correct = conservative politics

Or, "Right is right, left is wrong."

Klinglerware · 08-23-2005, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warhammer

The easy way to remember is right = correct = conservative politics

Except in Communist & post-Soviet countries:

Conservative = Communist
Liberal = Reformist

Thusly, right = correct = traditional Marxist-Leninism

Raiders Army · 08-23-2005, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glengoyne

Oh I thought of this thread when another thing that I have trouble keeping straight popped up.

Does a Left handed pitcher want to face a right haded batter, or does a right handed batter want to face a left handed pitcher?

I mean I know you want a lefty to face a lefty....but I can't remember which manager(batting or fielding team) has the advantage.

I usually work through it to come to a conclusion....but I'm hoping there is a better way.

Isn't this one opposites attract? You want a left handed pitcher facing right handed batters and vice versa. At least this is what I remember from Little League.

Klinglerware · 08-23-2005, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Isn't this one opposites attract? You want a left handed pitcher facing right handed batters and vice versa. At least this is what I remember from Little League.

L batter , L pitcher = advantage pitcher
R batter, L picher = advantage hitter

I think it's the same for righties, but not as pronounced...

Edit: sidearming pitchers are especially vulnerable--conventional wisdom is that you try to stack the line-up with opposite-handed hitters when a sidearmer is pitching...

Raiders Army · 08-23-2005, 10:31 AM

Doh. Couldn't remember that one either I guess.

Glengoyne · 08-23-2005, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klinglerware

L batter , L pitcher = advantage pitcher
R batter, L picher = advantage hitter

I think it's the same for righties, but not as pronounced...

Edit: sidearming pitchers are especially vulnerable--conventional wisdom is that you try to stack the line-up with opposite-handed hitters when a sidearmer is pitching...

So it would be safe to remember that the pitcher has the advantage against same sided hitters.

WSUCougar · 08-23-2005, 01:37 PM

Generally speaking (and there are many exceptions), as a hitter you don't want the ball raking across your body from the same-sided pitcher. You'll notice a lot of lefty vs. lefty specialists throw almost nothing but sliders because of that raking effect across the body.

Release-points are often harder to pick up from the same side, too.

Craptacular · 08-24-2005, 09:30 PM

Port vs Starboard:

Just remember port is left for a person facing the bow (front) of the ship. So, if you are standing on the front of the boat looking back towards the stern, and the captain tells you to look port, you should look to your right.

Raiders Army · 08-25-2005, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craptacular

Port vs Starboard:

Just remember port is left for a person facing the bow (front) of the ship. So, if you are standing on the front of the boat looking back towards the stern, and the captain tells you to look port, you should look to your right.

That's too hard. With this one you have to remember which way is port and stern. Heheh.

Raven · 08-25-2005, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Glengoyne

So it would be safe to remember that the pitcher has the advantage against same sided hitters.

Yes. You can also remember it by considering switch hitters. If a righty is on the mound, the switch hitter bats left so he won't be at a disadvantage, and vice versa.

Huckleberry · 08-25-2005, 05:21 PM

Port : boat : : driver's side : cars
Starboard : boat : : passenger's side : cars

You Aussies and Brits are on your own.

08-22-2005, 09:55 AM	#2
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	I can't get port & starboard right consistently -- I think port is left, because occasionally there's a reference to a "portsider" aka lefty reliever ... but I don't always think of that example when I need it. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

08-22-2005, 10:17 AM	#5
TredWel High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Old Forge, PA	Left = Liberal Right = Republican __________________ There are three things I have learned never to discuss with people...religion, politics, and the Great Pumpkin. - Linus Van Pelt

08-22-2005, 10:36 AM	#8
WSUCougar Rider Of Rohan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep	Port is also referred to as "larboard" (L-word = left), if that helps any. __________________ It's not the years...it's the mileage.

08-22-2005, 11:23 AM	#9
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	Icant tell the difference between butter and I cant believe its not butter. __________________ Toujour Pret

08-22-2005, 02:18 PM	#13
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	Radical->Liberal->Moderate->Conservative->Reactionary __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

08-22-2005, 09:57 AM	#3
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Port is indeed left.

08-22-2005, 10:10 AM	#4
Glengoyne Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fresno, CA	Port is left. It is shorter than starboard, with only four letters. Left is shorter than right, and it also has only four letters. Thats how I used to remember, and probably still how I subconsciously translate port and starboard. Left v Right for politics. Hmm Remember that the West Coast when you look at a map is the left coast. The New Yorkers are liberal in their own right, but over here on the left coast even the moderate liberals are somewhat to the left of the salad fork. That salad fork bit is a George Will line. I've been trying to work it in for months.

08-22-2005, 10:18 AM	#6
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Ah...many thanks. I will never mess these up again.

08-22-2005, 10:31 AM	#7
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	Well duh, there is no difference. The USA has no left and right politics. It's all right wing stuff.

08-22-2005, 12:42 PM	#11
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Also, FWIW, righty-tighty and lefty-loosey doesn't always work. I tried to turn on the water for our outdoor hose at my dad's, but it didn't work. My brother told me that valve didn't work that way. He was right.

08-22-2005, 01:07 PM	#12
Warhammer Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dayton, OH	The easy way to remember is right = correct = conservative politics

08-22-2005, 06:28 PM	#16
BigJohn&TheLions College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New York	Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! __________________ In the immortal words of a great alcoholic, "Can't we all just get along?"

08-22-2005, 06:40 PM	#17
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	The ship LEFT the PORT. That's how I was taught to remember it.

08-23-2005, 03:36 AM	#18
Glengoyne Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fresno, CA	Oh I thought of this thread when another thing that I have trouble keeping straight popped up. Does a Left handed pitcher want to face a right haded batter, or does a right handed batter want to face a left handed pitcher? I mean I know you want a lefty to face a lefty....but I can't remember which manager(batting or fielding team) has the advantage. I usually work through it to come to a conclusion....but I'm hoping there is a better way.

08-23-2005, 10:31 AM	#23
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Doh. Couldn't remember that one either I guess.

08-23-2005, 01:37 PM	#25
WSUCougar Rider Of Rohan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep	Generally speaking (and there are many exceptions), as a hitter you don't want the ball raking across your body from the same-sided pitcher. You'll notice a lot of lefty vs. lefty specialists throw almost nothing but sliders because of that raking effect across the body. Release-points are often harder to pick up from the same side, too. __________________ It's not the years...it's the mileage.

08-24-2005, 09:30 PM	#26
Craptacular College Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Mad City, WI	Port vs Starboard: Just remember port is left for a person facing the bow (front) of the ship. So, if you are standing on the front of the boat looking back towards the stern, and the captain tells you to look port, you should look to your right.

08-25-2005, 05:21 PM	#29
Huckleberry College Starter Join Date: Dec 2001	Port : boat : : driver's side : cars Starboard : boat : : passenger's side : cars You Aussies and Brits are on your own. __________________ The one thing all your failed relationships have in common is you. The Barking Carnival (Longhorn-centered sports blog) College Football Adjusted Stats and Ratings

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