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So really the question would be -- is there actually anything to him being charged with obstruction of justice? If not, there's really nothing here that warrants all the excitement people have about tomorrow.
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06-07-2017, 04:17 PM | #4555 | |
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06-07-2017, 04:25 PM | #4556 |
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Another turn of the dial.
Not sure if there really are going to be any big surprises in the near term (regardless of what CNN & MSNBC wishes for)... time for the Dems to dig up something else about Trump & Family and come in at another direction. Last edited by Edward64 : 06-07-2017 at 04:27 PM. |
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Sounds like we'll just hear what has been reported. He committed obstruction of justice.
The independent investigation is probably what people should be waiting on. I still think that's going to be focused much more on people like Flynn and Kushner who likely did illegal things. |
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I get that the GOP congress isn't going to see this as big news, but when the President repeatedly asks the FBI director to drop an investigation into his administration and then fires the FBI director because he wouldn't drop it, should shock us. That's as clear as can be that the admin is putting itself above the law.
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06-07-2017, 06:52 PM | #4559 |
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I don't view it as news because it's become accepted for the past 20-30 years(at least) that our leaders will put themselves above the law. I don't approve it of course, it's enough for me to favor impeachment, but I think a lot more impeachment should go on than does, and it's neither news or surprising while at the same time being rather terrible.
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06-07-2017, 08:08 PM | #4560 |
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What Trump did, which basically no one argues, is unprecedented. At no point in our past has a president fired an FBI director because he refused to stop an investigation into the administration.
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06-08-2017, 01:23 AM | #4562 |
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While I think Trump is bad for the US and the rest of the world, you also have to consider the possibility that Comey could be lying, could be committing perjury, treason, whatever law it would be to lie to the investigation.
Edward said it's another turn of the dial, and that's all is will be, albeit an important one. A president is not going to get brought down by the testimony of one man, it will need a weight of testimonies and supporting evidence for that to happen.
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Ok, I giggled.
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Trump not tweeting. Smart. Maybe someone in the WH had the sense to shut off the WiFi.
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Comey just directly said that he didn't document meetings with Bush or Obama, but that he did with Trump because he felt that Trump would lie about the nature of the meetings later.
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Several times Comey indicates he believes Trump is a liar....then he says "I'll take him at his word" that he was fired because of the Russia investigation. That one isn't gonna play well.
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06-08-2017, 10:03 AM | #4569 |
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Jeez, Comey isn't holding back. Accusing him of looking for a quid pro quo.
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Fixed that for ya.
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It's stunning (and then again, it isn't) how many times the former Director Of The FBI has called the President Of The United States a liar.
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We endured a p.o.s. that refused to enforce various laws on the books, refused to protect or defend the Constitution.
How come all the sudden interest in presidents & laws?
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Firing Comey shows everything wrong with Trump as a politician. He had a guy on the inside who was going to protect him and was going to protect the office of the presidency. But that guy refused to pledge personal loyalty to him or pretend he liked him. So he had to go, even at great political cost to Trump.
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Someone said that Ryan and McConnell could go up to Trump and propose a show trial in which he would be found guilty of misdemeanor malfeasance, but then afterwards he would get to be emperor for life. And Trump would turn them down. Because he could not comprehend even one day of humiliation in exchange for a lifetime of power. |
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Sessions is coming off pretty bad here as well.
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Holy cow. Does John McCain have dementia?
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McCain seems confused. Time to put him out to pasture.
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Does he not understand that Clinton and Russia were separate investigations?
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It appears that he doesn't. Either that or he's wondering why the FBI didn't investigate Hillary Clinton for colluding with Russia to elect Donald Trump.
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Did he also say "President Comey" a couple of times?
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Yes. He also wondered what "that thing" was. I'm assuming he wonders what a lot of things are now.
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Was there a hard end time on this? If so, thank god it wasn't 7 mins shorter.
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Rubio on McCain: "I didn't follow that line of questioning very well."
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I wasn't following where McCain was tracking ... thought I missed something. Good to know I wasn't alone
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No idea if this is accurate, but it's a fair summation of the McCain questions...
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Interesting. Fox News pundit said that Mueller investigation will eventually call on Trump to testify under oath.
Hope it happens. I'm sure it'll be close door but would be fun if it was open. Last edited by Edward64 : 06-08-2017 at 12:06 PM. |
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We're on vacation with my in-laws. My father-in-law after missing the hearing after he spent 90 minutes at a bait shop, then coming in and checking fox news:
Wow, nothing bad for Trump.... something, something Loretta Lynch. There's literally no way to get through to these people. I'd say something, but my daughter is sitting here ignoring him watching Sofia the First. I don't feel the need to anger him when she's 5 feet away. Last edited by Easy Mac : 06-08-2017 at 12:22 PM. |
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Also, that Trump was right to fire Comey about the memo, even if he didn't know about the memo.
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I'm talking about the questions the Senators were raising about Sessions. He probably didn't think he'd be featured so much in hearing. And that Comey indicated that there were other reason Sessions would have had to recuse himself from the Russia investigation, but he couldn't reveal them. And Comey saying it's a 'reasonable question' as to whether Sessions should have been involved in Comey's firing since he recused himself.
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Did Mccain have a stroke on national television? or some heavy burtations?
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