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Toddzilla · 02-05-2013, 07:32 AM

Is there a wrestling fan alive that gives the slightest shit about Bruno Sammartino? Every dollar paid to this fossil just got flushed down the toilet because he's not going to draw penny one for the WWE. Completely mind boggling.

JonInMiddleGA · 02-05-2013, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Toddzilla

Is there a wrestling fan alive that gives the slightest shit about Bruno Sammartino? Every dollar paid to this fossil just got flushed down the toilet because he's not going to draw penny one for the WWE. Completely mind boggling.

Pretty much anyone who was a WWWF fan in the 60s or 70s. Or anyone who has any appreciation for the history of pro wrestling.

At least arguably the 3rd most important performer of the last 50 years in wrestling (behind only Flair & Hogan) this is nothing but a solid p.r. move and more importantly, it's the right thing to do.

And negotiating it might actually be the most legendary thing HHH has done (that didn't involve sleeping with Stephanie).

Flasch186 · 02-05-2013, 08:15 AM

Far behind getting Steph pregnant. Marrying her was A and then the next important thing he's done still only starts at J.

Matthean · 02-05-2013, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Pretty much anyone who was a WWWF fan in the 60s or 70s.

I'm just curious how big of a fan base that is. Unless you went looking for that stuff, somebody would have to be 50-60 years old to really remember those days. It's absolutely the right thing to do, but I don't see it making a lot of financial sense.

JonInMiddleGA · 02-05-2013, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

I'm just curious how big of a fan base that is. Unless you went looking for that stuff, somebody would have to be 50-60 years old to really remember those days. It's absolutely the right thing to do, but I don't see it making a lot of financial sense.

I dunno, I'm 45 and it's meaningful to me ... and I wasn't even a WWWF guy.

albionmoonlight · 02-05-2013, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Toddzilla

Is there a wrestling fan alive that gives the slightest shit about Bruno Sammartino? Every dollar paid to this fossil just got flushed down the toilet because he's not going to draw penny one for the WWE. Completely mind boggling.

Why does Hollywood remind us of Clark Gable and Charlie Chaplin? Why does the NFL remind us of Otto Graham and Jim Brown? Placing the current entertainment in the larger context of the whole adds heft and cachet to the entire enterprise. It adds legitimacy to the entertainment.

Sure, the typical 17 year old who just bought an RGIII jersey couldn't pick Johnny Unitas out of a photo lineup, and he probably will never be able to do so. But that does not mean that the NFL is being stupid every time it produces a 30 minute "NFL Films Presents" about him.

If you want to be around for the next 50 years, it helps to remind people of the last 50 years. The benefits are long-term and intangible, but they certainly exist.

Comey · 02-05-2013, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Toddzilla

Is there a wrestling fan alive that gives the slightest shit about Bruno Sammartino? Every dollar paid to this fossil just got flushed down the toilet because he's not going to draw penny one for the WWE. Completely mind boggling.

Remember you said this in 30 years, when people say the same about any sports star from this era...or wrestling, for that matter.

dubb93 · 02-05-2013, 11:18 AM

I give a shit about Bruno.

I give much more of a shit about wrestling's past than the present. Good move, will probably get me to tune in when I know he's going to be there.

Matthean · 02-05-2013, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I dunno, I'm 45 and it's meaningful to me ... and I wasn't even a WWWF guy.

I'm 40 and anything before Hogan is merely of passing interest. I watch old clips of wrestling, and it just comes off as tepid.

DaddyTorgo · 02-05-2013, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I dunno, I'm 45 and it's meaningful to me ... and I wasn't even a WWWF guy.

33 and me too, but we're the minority.

Also - say whatever you want about HHH, but his respect for the old-timers in the business is really great to see, and whatever else about it, it makes me root for the guy.

molson · 02-05-2013, 12:27 PM

One thing about HHH that's never talked about much is that he's a New England guy, from Nashua, trained by Killer Kowalski in MA. I don't know if he was a fan growing up but he's from WWF country, and probably lived around a lot of Bruno fans.

SirFozzie · 02-05-2013, 12:28 PM

He actually wrestled here in Franklin as part of Kowalski's New England fed, right before he was signed by WCW (as Terra Ryzing)

DaddyTorgo · 02-05-2013, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

One thing about HHH that's never talked about much is that he's a New England guy, from Nashua, trained by Killer Kowalski in MA. I don't know if he was a fan growing up but he's from WWF country, and probably lived around a lot of Bruno fans.

I had remembered that Killer trained him, but I never realized he was actually from Nashua.

Suicane75 · 02-05-2013, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Toddzilla

Is there a wrestling fan alive that gives the slightest shit about Bruno Sammartino? Every dollar paid to this fossil just got flushed down the toilet because he's not going to draw penny one for the WWE. Completely mind boggling.

LOLWHAT?

Yo why ESPN still bringing up Babe Ruth?

molson · 02-05-2013, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Suicane75

LOLWHAT?

Yo why ESPN still bringing up Babe Ruth?

Or specifically in this case, still bringing up Bruno Sammartino

WWE to induct Bruno Sammartino into HOF - Sports Fans, Teams, Stadiums, Page 2 - Fandom Blog - ESPN Playbook - ESPN

Pretty good press. And Bruno's doing the Pittsburgh media rounds now. I don't know if you can put a $ value on all this, but any good press has to have a lot of brand value for this company.

Mota · 02-05-2013, 06:27 PM

I don't think Bruno will draw a dime. That's not what it's about. It's about the WWE acknowledging that this giant period in history existed. That's a lot of years that suddenly reappear in the WWE timeline. He is one of the greats in this company and they finally get to recognize it. That makes it worth it.

Matthean · 02-08-2013, 11:34 PM

Spoiler

Suicane75 · 02-09-2013, 01:13 AM

Learn how to use the spoiler tag.

God damn.

RainMaker · 02-09-2013, 02:52 AM

That is impossible.

Suicane75 · 02-09-2013, 03:03 AM

She's morphing into Adrian Adonis.

Toddzilla · 02-09-2013, 08:07 AM

Meth is a hell of a drug

Matthean · 02-09-2013, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

That is impossible.

Ex-WWE wrestler facing charges for 6th time in Branford assault case- The New Haven Register - Serving New Haven, Connecticut

Less than two years ago she was on Raw and looked rather normal so it is definitely on the recent side.

miami_fan · 02-09-2013, 09:48 AM

So uh anybody know who the fiance is?

DaddyTorgo · 02-09-2013, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

So uh anybody know who the fiance is?

Any blind wrestlers?

BYU 14 · 02-09-2013, 11:00 AM

Holy Shit....The Sun-ny has definitely set on her.

JonInMiddleGA · 02-09-2013, 11:11 AM

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So uh anybody know who the fiance is?

Indy guy named Damien Darling.

General Mike · 02-20-2013, 05:01 PM

Swagger busted for pot/ dui. Wrestlemania cancelled for Jack.

bulletsponge · 02-20-2013, 06:38 PM

what a dumbass

TLK · 02-20-2013, 07:49 PM

I can't wait to see how the WWE writes this one...

murrayyyyy · 02-20-2013, 07:58 PM

I don't think the WWE has ever suspended anyone for pot or a DUI. Synthetic yes, but straight pot, no. RVD was "blackballed" and dropped the belt with his arrest.

His character/w Zeb is giving them plenty of publicity for free so I could see Mantel being the manager of another "true American"(maybe Orton?) while they keep Swagger off TV for a few weeks and his penalty will be winning over ADR just to have Zigs cash in immediately.

General Mike · 02-20-2013, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by murrayyyyy

I don't think the WWE has ever suspended anyone for pot or a DUI. Synthetic yes, but straight pot, no. RVD was "blackballed" and dropped the belt with his arrest.

His character/w Zeb is giving them plenty of publicity for free so I could see Mantel being the manager of another "true American"(maybe Orton?) while they keep Swagger off TV for a few weeks and his penalty will be winning over ADR just to have Zigs cash in immediately.

I believe Orton was suspended for pot pre-Wellness Policy. And he's not going to lose the spot because he was smoking weed, but because he was the dumbass who got caught. Just like RVD.

murrayyyyy · 02-20-2013, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by General Mike

I believe Orton was suspended for pot pre-Wellness Policy. And he's not going to lose the spot because he was smoking weed, but because he was the dumbass who got caught. Just like RVD.

First time for Orton was steroids but he still worked on TV but go no pay for 30 days. His 2nd one was for smoking pot backstage(with Evan Borne I think). Since Swags is just caught with possession I would suspect I would expect the 30 days work without pay.

General Mike · 02-20-2013, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by murrayyyyy

First time for Orton was steroids but he still worked on TV but go no pay for 30 days. His 2nd one was for smoking pot backstage(with Evan Borne I think). Since Swags is just caught with possession I would suspect I would expect the 30 days work without pay.

No, he got suspended in 2006 before the wellness policy for 2 months. It was for smoking pot in front of important people WrestleMania weekend

molson · 02-22-2013, 11:56 PM

The WWE had been downright giddy over the media attention the Swagger angle has given them, there's no way they shut it down completely. They could move Zeb Coulter to someone else, or they could suspend Swagger for 30 days after Wrestlemania. The wellness policy is is only implicated when there's a failed drug test, and marijuana isn't a suspendable offense anyway, so they have some leeway.

It is kind of fun to see the WWE getting all frisky again, I guess Linda's campaign being over helps with that:

Zeb Colter and Jack Swagger address Glenn Beck - YouTube

(this video was put out today, which would seem to be good news for this angle and Swagger's push)

Matthean · 02-25-2013, 10:33 AM

Picture: Scott Hall Meets With DDP & Jake Roberts

I hope it works, but...

Suicane75 · 02-25-2013, 10:40 AM

I would bet money that Bruno could take all 3 of them in a fight right now.

Apathetic Lurker · 02-25-2013, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Toddzilla

Is there a wrestling fan alive that gives the slightest shit about Bruno Sammartino? Every dollar paid to this fossil just got flushed down the toilet because he's not going to draw penny one for the WWE. Completely mind boggling.

I always liked him..But then I grew up on wrestling in the late 70's on

IlliniCub · 02-26-2013, 12:32 AM

Scotts looking rough, a part of me suspects having him and Jake in the house together is not a great idea.

dave731 · 02-26-2013, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by IlliniCub

Scotts looking rough, a part of me suspects having him and Jake in the house together is not a great idea.

When does this reality show come on? I will watch!

IlliniCub · 02-26-2013, 07:00 PM

Dave , on DDP's youtube channel Diamond Dallas Page - YouTube They are pretty much just posting as they go as far as I know the stuff with Jake is pretty enjoyable.

JonInMiddleGA · 03-06-2013, 02:39 PM

Sad to hear of the passing of Paul Bearer (aka Percy Pringle, aka William Moody). Unspecified causes after prolonged health problems at the age of 58.

Slam Sports has a nice retrospective obit up.

molson · 03-06-2013, 02:46 PM

I didn't know that he was actually a licensed mortician. Then I heard on Meltzer's audio update yesterday that he actually went back to that business around 2002 when his contract with the WWF ended. Imagine going into a real funeral home and running into Paul Bearer.

Toddzilla · 03-06-2013, 05:34 PM

Highly underrated as Percy Pringle IMO.

INDalltheway · 03-12-2013, 03:05 PM

I went to Raw last night in Indy and I put together a little album. http://imgur.com/a/MhpeC

Best picture I got was after the Raw went off air.

Scarecrow · 03-12-2013, 07:25 PM

Best part of last night's Raw was Brian Armstrong (aka Rod Dogg) saying "This one's for you, Percy" at the beginning of his "speech".

SirFozzie · 03-13-2013, 01:25 AM

Someone linked me this video. This is the ridiculous lengths the Japanese Feds will go to show fighting spirit.

187 strikes in just over four minutes. Both men's chest were red and bruised and looked like raw hamburger. And the crowd just eats it us.

Longest & Most Epic Chop Exchange in Wrestling History - YouTube

JonInMiddleGA · 03-29-2013, 01:04 PM

REID FLAIR PASSES AWAY (UPDATED) | PWInsider.com

BYU 14 · 04-03-2013, 10:41 AM

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REID FLAIR PASSES AWAY (UPDATED) | PWInsider.com

Sad, just read this today and I would be totally shocked if it was anything other than an OD.

I remember him from back in WCW when he was a teenager.

molson · 04-03-2013, 10:43 AM

From what I read Ric and Reid were pretty much living together at that hotel. Reid had been off in Japan training, a trip that was set up, in part, to get him away from his drug friends. Then the very first night he comes back, this happens. The WWE were going to bring Reid into developmental at some point, but passed when the drug stuff came to light. That really matters now in wrestling. Being Ric Flair's son isn't even enough if you have the reputation for being a drug guy. Of course, he had a chance to turn it around and change everyone's mind, and everybody said he was doing really well in Japan.

molson · 04-03-2013, 10:48 AM

It's kind of amusing how Wrestlemania weekend has become this huge indy wrestling holiday. I think there's around a dozen shows going on in NYC this weekend. If you ever wanted to see Demolition v. the Rock N' Roll Express, (and still do, here in 2013) you can, tomorrow on ippv!

Edit: Next year could be really crazy when all this comes to New Orleans. 100k wrestling fans and maybe 500 or so wrestlers descending on the French Quarter. I predict disaster.

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02-22-2013, 11:56 PM	#4484
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	The WWE had been downright giddy over the media attention the Swagger angle has given them, there's no way they shut it down completely. They could move Zeb Coulter to someone else, or they could suspend Swagger for 30 days after Wrestlemania. The wellness policy is is only implicated when there's a failed drug test, and marijuana isn't a suspendable offense anyway, so they have some leeway. It is kind of fun to see the WWE getting all frisky again, I guess Linda's campaign being over helps with that: Zeb Colter and Jack Swagger address Glenn Beck - YouTube (this video was put out today, which would seem to be good news for this angle and Swagger's push) Last edited by molson : 02-22-2013 at 11:57 PM.

02-05-2013, 07:32 AM	#4451
Toddzilla Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burke, VA	Is there a wrestling fan alive that gives the slightest shit about Bruno Sammartino? Every dollar paid to this fossil just got flushed down the toilet because he's not going to draw penny one for the WWE. Completely mind boggling.

02-05-2013, 12:27 PM	#4461
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	One thing about HHH that's never talked about much is that he's a New England guy, from Nashua, trained by Killer Kowalski in MA. I don't know if he was a fan growing up but he's from WWF country, and probably lived around a lot of Bruno fans.

02-05-2013, 06:27 PM	#4466
Mota College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2001	I don't think Bruno will draw a dime. That's not what it's about. It's about the WWE acknowledging that this giant period in history existed. That's a lot of years that suddenly reappear in the WWE timeline. He is one of the greats in this company and they finally get to recognize it. That makes it worth it.

02-09-2013, 01:13 AM	#4468
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	Learn how to use the spoiler tag. God damn.

02-09-2013, 02:52 AM	#4469
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	That is impossible.

02-09-2013, 03:03 AM	#4470
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	She's morphing into Adrian Adonis.

02-09-2013, 08:07 AM	#4471
Toddzilla Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burke, VA	Meth is a hell of a drug

02-09-2013, 11:00 AM	#4475
BYU 14 Coordinator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The scorched Desert	Holy Shit....The Sun-ny has definitely set on her.

02-20-2013, 05:01 PM	#4477
General Mike Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The State of Rutgers	Swagger busted for pot/ dui. Wrestlemania cancelled for Jack.

02-20-2013, 06:38 PM	#4478
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	what a dumbass

02-20-2013, 07:49 PM	#4479
TLK Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Allen Park, MI	I can't wait to see how the WWE writes this one...

02-20-2013, 07:58 PM	#4480
murrayyyyy College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Las Vegas	I don't think the WWE has ever suspended anyone for pot or a DUI. Synthetic yes, but straight pot, no. RVD was "blackballed" and dropped the belt with his arrest. His character/w Zeb is giving them plenty of publicity for free so I could see Mantel being the manager of another "true American"(maybe Orton?) while they keep Swagger off TV for a few weeks and his penalty will be winning over ADR just to have Zigs cash in immediately.

02-25-2013, 10:33 AM	#4485
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	Picture: Scott Hall Meets With DDP & Jake Roberts I hope it works, but... __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

02-25-2013, 10:40 AM	#4486
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	I would bet money that Bruno could take all 3 of them in a fight right now.

02-26-2013, 12:32 AM	#4488
IlliniCub High School Varsity Join Date: Mar 2012	Scotts looking rough, a part of me suspects having him and Jake in the house together is not a great idea.

02-26-2013, 07:00 PM	#4490
IlliniCub High School Varsity Join Date: Mar 2012	Dave , on DDP's youtube channel Diamond Dallas Page - YouTube They are pretty much just posting as they go as far as I know the stuff with Jake is pretty enjoyable.

03-06-2013, 02:39 PM	#4491
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Sad to hear of the passing of Paul Bearer (aka Percy Pringle, aka William Moody). Unspecified causes after prolonged health problems at the age of 58. Slam Sports has a nice retrospective obit up. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

03-06-2013, 02:46 PM	#4492
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	I didn't know that he was actually a licensed mortician. Then I heard on Meltzer's audio update yesterday that he actually went back to that business around 2002 when his contract with the WWF ended. Imagine going into a real funeral home and running into Paul Bearer.

03-06-2013, 05:34 PM	#4493
Toddzilla Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burke, VA	Highly underrated as Percy Pringle IMO.

03-12-2013, 03:05 PM	#4494
INDalltheway College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Chicago	I went to Raw last night in Indy and I put together a little album. http://imgur.com/a/MhpeC Best picture I got was after the Raw went off air.

03-12-2013, 07:25 PM	#4495
Scarecrow College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Flatlands of America	Best part of last night's Raw was Brian Armstrong (aka Rod Dogg) saying "This one's for you, Percy" at the beginning of his "speech". __________________ Post Count: Eleventy Billion - so deal with it!

03-13-2013, 01:25 AM	#4496
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Someone linked me this video. This is the ridiculous lengths the Japanese Feds will go to show fighting spirit. 187 strikes in just over four minutes. Both men's chest were red and bruised and looked like raw hamburger. And the crowd just eats it us. Longest & Most Epic Chop Exchange in Wrestling History - YouTube __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

03-29-2013, 01:04 PM	#4497
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	REID FLAIR PASSES AWAY (UPDATED) \| PWInsider.com __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

04-03-2013, 10:43 AM	#4499
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	From what I read Ric and Reid were pretty much living together at that hotel. Reid had been off in Japan training, a trip that was set up, in part, to get him away from his drug friends. Then the very first night he comes back, this happens. The WWE were going to bring Reid into developmental at some point, but passed when the drug stuff came to light. That really matters now in wrestling. Being Ric Flair's son isn't even enough if you have the reputation for being a drug guy. Of course, he had a chance to turn it around and change everyone's mind, and everybody said he was doing really well in Japan. Last edited by molson : 04-03-2013 at 10:44 AM.

04-03-2013, 10:48 AM	#4500
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	It's kind of amusing how Wrestlemania weekend has become this huge indy wrestling holiday. I think there's around a dozen shows going on in NYC this weekend. If you ever wanted to see Demolition v. the Rock N' Roll Express, (and still do, here in 2013) you can, tomorrow on ippv! Edit: Next year could be really crazy when all this comes to New Orleans. 100k wrestling fans and maybe 500 or so wrestlers descending on the French Quarter. I predict disaster. Last edited by molson : 04-03-2013 at 10:57 AM.

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