College Football Week 14 (Conference Championship Week) discussion - Page 9

cmp · 12-05-2009, 10:34 PM

That was a disappointing finish.

mauchow · 12-05-2009, 10:34 PM

Well, if the whistles blew before the ball hit the ground, then that's even more stupid. Heh.

Ah, well. Life moves on and I hope Alabama absolutely DEMOLISHES Texas.

JonInMiddleGA · 12-05-2009, 10:34 PM

Juuuuust missed Spiller on a bomb. 3rd & 20.

JonInMiddleGA · 12-05-2009, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Would rather just have the best teams playing in the big game than to see a fraud exposed every other year.

that was called the SEC championship game earlier this afternoon.

JonInMiddleGA · 12-05-2009, 10:35 PM

18 yd completion with the clock running

JonInMiddleGA · 12-05-2009, 10:35 PM

SACKED BY MORGAN !!!!

Recoil · 12-05-2009, 10:35 PM

YESSSSS

aran · 12-05-2009, 10:36 PM

And Clemson's QB hesitates and is lost.

Radii · 12-05-2009, 10:36 PM

ACC CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sterlingice · 12-05-2009, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

No we shouldn't judge by one game. But they haven't beaten anyone. They'll get slaughtered by Alabama in the NC game. Would rather just have the best teams playing in the big game than to see a fraud exposed every other year.

So, uh, again- who would you rather see in the game?

SI

JonInMiddleGA · 12-05-2009, 10:36 PM

Contrary to last week, I'll give Morgan plenty of props for showing up tonight. And the three man line just saved our asses big time.

Tekneek · 12-05-2009, 10:37 PM

Way more dramatic than I wanted it to be, but GO TECH!

RainMaker · 12-05-2009, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

So, uh, again- who would you rather see in the game?

SI

TCU, Florida, and Cincinnati are better teams.

JonInMiddleGA · 12-05-2009, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

TCU, Florida, and Cincinnati are better teams.

How cute. Dead wrong, but you're consistent at least.

Recoil · 12-05-2009, 10:38 PM

I mostly enjoy CU fans, but... 2-0!!!

RainMaker · 12-05-2009, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

How cute. Dead wrong, but you're consistent at least.

We'll find out at the NC game then. Texas needed questionable officiating to beat a team that barely hit 100 yards and had 5 first downs all game.

JonInMiddleGA · 12-05-2009, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

We'll find out at the NC game then.

Like I said, we already saw Alabama beat the 2nd best team in the country earlier today, in the NCG they'll beat all amount of hell out of the 3rd best.

Matthean · 12-05-2009, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

Not to sound like a whiny baby, but I'm pretty sure the clock stops when the whistle is blown not immediately the ball hits the ground. Ah, wel.

Replay shows the ref raising his arms with a second to go to end the play.

Galaxy · 12-05-2009, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

TCU, Florida, and Cincinnati are better teams.

I still don't know Cincinnati doesn't have a better resume than Texas. Won a conference that 6 out of its 8 teams have winning records, with the top 4 having at least 8-4 records. They have a better non-conference slate than Texas, with wins over Oregon State and Fresno State. The Big 12 was down this year.

TCU pretty much blew out all of its competition, including wins over Clemson and Virginia.

Basically, it came down to how they started in the pre-season polls.

Atocep · 12-05-2009, 10:42 PM

Most likely scenario now is Clemson to the Peach and a WVU vs Va Tech Gator bowl. That's the game most WVU fans want to see.

JonInMiddleGA · 12-05-2009, 10:42 PM

So how come Suh isn't in all of the Heisman conversations?

Recoil · 12-05-2009, 10:42 PM

I missed UT/NU due to the GT/CU game. Can anyone give me the spark notes on the game? I really thought Texas would dominate.

RainMaker · 12-05-2009, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Like I said, we already saw Alabama beat the 2nd best team in the country earlier today, in the NCG they'll beat all amount of hell out of the 3rd best.

I don't know if Florida is 2nd best. Their offense isn't that good.

Like I said, we'll watch all the Texas in the NC game fans become real quiet when Alabama beats them by multiple touchdowns.

mauchow · 12-05-2009, 10:43 PM

Ah, I'm fired up enough after that Texas/Neb game that I'll watch Wisconsin demolish Hawai'i for a while.

RainMaker · 12-05-2009, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

So how come Suh isn't in all of the Heisman conversations?

He is the best lineman I've ever seen play in college. I would be shocked if he is not the first pick in the draft.

Atocep · 12-05-2009, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

So how come Suh isn't in all of the Heisman conversations?

He's a defensive player on a team that wasn't in the national championship hunt. Double his stats and he still wouldn't get even an invite to New York. It's going to go to McCoy or Ingram and I think both Suh and Spiller are more deserving.

mauchow · 12-05-2009, 10:45 PM

7-0 Badgers.

JonInMiddleGA · 12-05-2009, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

Most likely scenario now is Clemson to the Peach and a WVU vs Va Tech Gator bowl. That's the game most WVU fans want to see.

???

I haven't seen anything other than VT to the Peach since they get first choice, VT had an identical conference record to Clemson, will be higher ranked in the BCS, and it's even been longer since VT was in Atlanta ('07) than Clemson ('08)

sterlingice · 12-05-2009, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

TCU, Florida, and Cincinnati are better teams.

TCU and Cincinnati have interesting arguments. I'm open to those.

That little Florida you snuck in there is a *fucking* joke. How many wins do they have against ranked teams? One- LSU. Charleston Southern, Troy, Florida State, and Florida International in the non conference. All at home. Yeah. That's the second best team in the country right there??

Yeah, the Big XII is down this season. Only Nebraska and Oklahoma State are ranked right now so that's 2 ranked wins for Texas. For the non-conference, they played La-Monroe, at Wyoming, UTEP, and Central Florida. Nothing really exciting there, either.

But you know what? Even if Texas gets blown out by Alabama- that means they will be equal to Florida. I seem to remember that happening a couple of hours ago. So there is no way on God's green earth that Florida deserves a spot there over Texas.

SI

Tekneek · 12-05-2009, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

Ah, I'm fired up enough after that Texas/Neb game that I'll watch Wisconsin demolish Hawai'i for a while.

Despite having to be up in 4 hours, I'm going to watch as much as I can stay awake for...

JonInMiddleGA · 12-05-2009, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

He is the best lineman I've ever seen play in college. I would be shocked if he is not the first pick in the draft.

Or as the talking heads put it, he was already #1 on Kiper's Big Board & may have just moved up.

RainMaker · 12-05-2009, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

He's a defensive player on a team that wasn't in the national championship hunt. Double his stats and he still wouldn't get even an invite to New York. It's going to go to McCoy or Ingram and I think both Suh and Spiller are more deserving.

McCoy was exposed as a fraud tonight that padded his stats against cupcake defenses. Spiller is the best player in the nation but isn't on a top team. Ingram will probably win it because he's the best player on the best team.

Atocep · 12-05-2009, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

???

I haven't seen anything other than VT to the Peach since they get first choice, VT had an identical conference record to Clemson, will be higher ranked in the BCS, and it's even been longer since VT was in Atlanta ('07) than Clemson ('08)

Rumors started earlier this week that that Peach would rather have Clemson. They may go with VT, but most places I've seen this week had Clemson to the Peach if they lose.

Eaglesfan27 · 12-05-2009, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

He is the best lineman I've ever seen play in college. I would be shocked if he is not the first pick in the draft.

I know mock drafts are useless this time of year, but he is in the top 5 in every one I've seen and usually in the top 3. Interestingly, some of the mock drafts still have Locker going #1 overall.

Cuckoo · 12-05-2009, 10:49 PM

Wow, I think RainMaker hates Texas even more than I do.

By the way... Stupid Texas and their stupid win.

Matthean · 12-05-2009, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Like I said, we'll watch all the Texas in the NC game fans become real quiet when Alabama beats them by multiple touchdowns.

Quit cursing it people! :P

Dr. Sak · 12-05-2009, 10:50 PM

Last week Brent was masterbating all over Toby Gerhart and now he's all over Suh. Make up your mind Brent!

Galaxy · 12-05-2009, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

Last week Brent was masterbating all over Toby Gerhart and now he's all over Suh. Make up your mind Brent!

It's Choas!

JonInMiddleGA · 12-05-2009, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

Rumors started earlier this week that that Peach would rather have Clemson. They may go with VT, but most places I've seen this week had Clemson to the Peach if they lose.

ESPN, CBS, CFN/Scout/FoxSports all have VT. I haven't even heard Clemson mentioned for the spot anywhere at all. Not saying you haven't, just saying that it hasn't even been whispered anywhere within my earshot.

sterlingice · 12-05-2009, 10:51 PM

(and lord knows I hate Texas so stop making me defend them)

SI

RainMaker · 12-05-2009, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

TCU and Cincinnati have interesting arguments. I'm open to those.

That little Florida you snuck in there is a *fucking* joke. How many wins do they have against ranked teams? One- LSU. Charleston Southern, Troy, Florida State, and Florida International in the non conference. All at home. Yeah. That's the second best team in the country right there??

Yeah, the Big XII is down this season. Only Nebraska and Oklahoma State are ranked right now so that's 2 ranked wins for Texas. For the non-conference, they played La-Monroe, at Wyoming, UTEP, and Central Florida. Nothing really exciting there, either.

But you know what? Even if Texas gets blown out by Alabama- that means they will be equal to Florida. I seem to remember that happening a couple of hours ago. So there is no way on God's green earth that Florida deserves a spot there over Texas.

SI

I wasn't saying Florida deserves to be in. Just saying they are a better team than Texas and would beat them head-to-head. A playoff would have been more interesting and put the best two teams against each other, but letting Jay Mariotti and Jason Whitlock decide is a much better solution.

I don't know if Nebraska will remain ranked with another loss and Oklahoma State's ranking comes in part to Dez Bryant who no longer plays and didn't play in the game against Texas. Texas only played one tough road game and even got the Conference Championship in a psuedo-home game.

Cuckoo · 12-05-2009, 10:53 PM

I won't defend Texas at all, and I'll certainly be rooting for Alabama in the Championship game. But don't fall prey to knee jerk reactions. I don't see this Texas team getting blown out. Say what you want about Colt McCoy (I don't see him as an NFL QB at all the way some analysts do), but the kid is a gamer. I expect a tight one that Alabama pulls out at the end.

Dr. Sak · 12-05-2009, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

but letting Jay Mariotti and Jason Whitlock decide is a much better solution.
.

Wrong, AP voters have no say. Coaches Poll, Harris Poll, Computer Poll. No AP Poll.

RainMaker · 12-05-2009, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cuckoo

Wow, I think RainMaker hates Texas even more than I do.

By the way... Stupid Texas and their stupid win.

I don't hate Texas, just the system. I love college football and would like to see their championships determined on the field.

JonInMiddleGA · 12-05-2009, 10:54 PM

So whaddya figure, 'Bama opens as a 9 point favorite?

Matthean · 12-05-2009, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

McCoy was exposed as a fraud tonight that padded his stats against cupcake defenses. Spiller is the best player in the nation but isn't on a top team. Ingram will probably win it because he's the best player on the best team.

I think the problem with Ingram is he isn't MVP kind of huge for 'Bama in terms of needing him to win. If he doesn't play, 'Bama can very likely still win a game. Texas without McCoy and things get far more dicey. Yes, I know it's not an MVP award, but I wouldn't doubt he gets less votes because of it.

Senator · 12-05-2009, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

I wasn't saying Florida deserves to be in. Just saying they are a better team than Texas and would beat them head-to-head. A playoff would have been more interesting and put the best two teams against each other, but letting Jay Mariotti and Jason Whitlock decide is a much better solution.

I don't know if Nebraska will remain ranked with another loss and Oklahoma State's ranking comes in part to Dez Bryant who no longer plays and didn't play in the game against Texas. Texas only played one tough road game and even got the Conference Championship in a psuedo-home game.

You crack me up, dude. Thanks for making this a fun night with the comments. Texas wins. Sweet dreams.

Galaxy · 12-05-2009, 10:55 PM

I hope the Fiesta Bowl doesn't match up TCU and Boise State.

Swaggs · 12-05-2009, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

Rumors started earlier this week that that Peach would rather have Clemson. They may go with VT, but most places I've seen this week had Clemson to the Peach if they lose.

That is what I am hearing, as well. I guess VPI has already played in Atlanta twice this season (vs Alabama and @ GT), so the Chicken Bowl folks aren't sure that their fans will want to travel there again. Plus, it gives the ACC an excuse to not let Bowden and a 6-6 FSU team play in one of their NYD bowls.

bigmike75 · 12-05-2009, 10:58 PM

Alabama should destroy Texas. So you know the final score is gonna be Texas 31 Alabama 27

12-05-2009, 10:34 PM	#403
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Juuuuust missed Spiller on a bomb. 3rd & 20. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

12-05-2009, 10:35 PM	#405
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	18 yd completion with the clock running __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

12-05-2009, 10:35 PM	#406
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	SACKED BY MORGAN !!!! __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

12-05-2009, 10:36 PM	#411
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Contrary to last week, I'll give Morgan plenty of props for showing up tonight. And the three man line just saved our asses big time. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis Last edited by JonInMiddleGA : 12-05-2009 at 10:37 PM.

12-05-2009, 10:42 PM	#421
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	So how come Suh isn't in all of the Heisman conversations? __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

12-05-2009, 10:34 PM	#401
cmp Pro Rookie Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Grand Rapids, MI	That was a disappointing finish.

12-05-2009, 10:34 PM	#402
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Well, if the whistles blew before the ball hit the ground, then that's even more stupid. Heh. Ah, well. Life moves on and I hope Alabama absolutely DEMOLISHES Texas.

12-05-2009, 10:35 PM	#407
Recoil High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: GA	YESSSSS

12-05-2009, 10:36 PM	#408
aran High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Jersey, USA	And Clemson's QB hesitates and is lost.

12-05-2009, 10:36 PM	#409
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	ACC CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

12-05-2009, 10:37 PM	#412
Tekneek Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: USA	Way more dramatic than I wanted it to be, but GO TECH!

12-05-2009, 10:38 PM	#415
Recoil High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: GA	I mostly enjoy CU fans, but... 2-0!!!

12-05-2009, 10:42 PM	#420
Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	Most likely scenario now is Clemson to the Peach and a WVU vs Va Tech Gator bowl. That's the game most WVU fans want to see.

12-05-2009, 10:42 PM	#422
Recoil High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: GA	I missed UT/NU due to the GT/CU game. Can anyone give me the spark notes on the game? I really thought Texas would dominate.

12-05-2009, 10:43 PM	#424
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Ah, I'm fired up enough after that Texas/Neb game that I'll watch Wisconsin demolish Hawai'i for a while.

12-05-2009, 10:45 PM	#427
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	7-0 Badgers.

12-05-2009, 10:49 PM	#435
Cuckoo College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edmond, OK	Wow, I think RainMaker hates Texas even more than I do. By the way... Stupid Texas and their stupid win. __________________ Commissioner - North American Football League Dallas Cowboys GM Last edited by Cuckoo : 12-05-2009 at 10:50 PM.

12-05-2009, 10:50 PM	#437
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Last week Brent was masterbating all over Toby Gerhart and now he's all over Suh. Make up your mind Brent!

12-05-2009, 10:51 PM	#440
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	(and lord knows I hate Texas so stop making me defend them) SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!" Last edited by sterlingice : 12-05-2009 at 10:54 PM.

12-05-2009, 10:53 PM	#442
Cuckoo College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edmond, OK	I won't defend Texas at all, and I'll certainly be rooting for Alabama in the Championship game. But don't fall prey to knee jerk reactions. I don't see this Texas team getting blown out. Say what you want about Colt McCoy (I don't see him as an NFL QB at all the way some analysts do), but the kid is a gamer. I expect a tight one that Alabama pulls out at the end. __________________ Commissioner - North American Football League Dallas Cowboys GM

12-05-2009, 10:54 PM	#445
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	So whaddya figure, 'Bama opens as a 9 point favorite? __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

12-05-2009, 10:55 PM	#448
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	I hope the Fiesta Bowl doesn't match up TCU and Boise State.

12-05-2009, 10:58 PM	#450
bigmike75 n00b Join Date: Sep 2004	Alabama should destroy Texas. So you know the final score is gonna be Texas 31 Alabama 27

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