Alright Boyz, 'ere we go... WAAAAAAGGGGHHH!!! (The Blood Bowl Impressions Thread) - Page 9

Havok · 07-20-2009, 01:12 PM

Im trying to add it using SQL lite but im having problems. I keep getting an error.

Nobody explians in very much detail how exactly to use SQL lite and how to add these mods. I have no modding experience what so ever.

Calis · 07-20-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

It's not random, I think, but I think in the files there is an AIWeight scioreon how much in general it should weigh those skills.

From what I can tell the AIWeight score handles how they weigh using the skills not how they weigh picking them. I definitely could be wrong though.

I am sadly leaning towards complete randomness on picking. if it isn't random someone should lose their programming badge.

Capital · 07-20-2009, 03:48 PM

Is this game available in the states? I haven't seen it anywhere.

Just saw that it was available at gogamer. I could buy it from there...

Honolulu_Blue · 07-20-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Capital

Is this game available in the states? I haven't seen it anywhere.

Just saw that it was available at gogamer. I could buy it from there...

It's available for digital download now (anywhere), but it wont be made available in any other format until September.

Arles · 07-20-2009, 04:16 PM

I got it last week from gogamer on PC DVD for $30. So, I think it's out there now in a non-download format.

thesloppy · 07-20-2009, 04:18 PM

I switched from a human campaign, to an orc premiere-style competition a while ago, and lately I've been a little too dominant, much like everybody else. After playing the humans, the Orcs have been a breeze, because of their relatively high armor and strength....unfortunately, because my competition is so long (13 games), and because I'm playing without aging or contracts, my team outvalues all of the other 54 teams by a sizable margin, to the point that a team I was playing the other day got over a million dollars in inducements. My orcs never seem to get injured, whereas the computer teams are getting tore up in their 'sim' games, so the longer things go on, the easier it's getting....it still is kinda fun to mop the floor with people though, and the dice stick me with a draw here and there.

Groundhog · 07-20-2009, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

It's not random, I think, but I think in the files there is an AIWeight scioreon how much in general it should weigh those skills.

I edited the skills of the human team I was about to play against last night, and they had a level 3 Ogre with leap and strong arm.

Godzilla Blitz · 07-21-2009, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Arles

I got it last week from gogamer on PC DVD for $30. So, I think it's out there now in a non-download format.

And back in stock there for $35. My game shipped today from last week's sale! Woot!

RendeR · 07-21-2009, 10:52 AM

I've been busily playing my 36 team championships with 9 division of 4. My Chaos team took 3 seasons to move from the 9th level up to 8th and then got promoted each year up to 5th.

I've hit a fucking brick wall. I've lost 2 straight games and tied a third. I'm worried I might actually get demoted this season. The teams are playing smarter and doing a lot more of the risky plays when the opportunity presents itself.

I need to work hard just to stay in these games this season. Its kinda freakish.

Neon_Chaos · 07-22-2009, 08:20 AM

I've finally found a boxed version of this here in the Philippines. Apparently, the store was only sent ONE COPY. It's $41.00, and I've reserved it and am picking it up tomorrow.

Neon_Chaos · 07-23-2009, 06:42 AM

Picked the game up, took it for a spin before going to work, played around 3 matches as Dwarves, and am very happy with my purchase.

Can't wait to get home and begin a proper game.

Neon_Chaos · 07-30-2009, 07:51 AM

SirFoz, you should update the first post with the usernames of people in Bloodbowl. It would be nice if I can see you guys on and challenge for a game or two.

Mine is simple enough: NeonChaos

Neon_Chaos · 08-06-2009, 07:53 AM

Uh oh.

Blood Bowl • View topic - [Solution] You DONT have to DC to cheat death.

Trouble for Cyanide. A serious programming flaw has been exposed within the multiplayer portion of the game.

Essentially, all the die rolls you make, and all the player ratings for multiplayer are housed on your local PC, and not on the multiplayer server.

Essentially, you can make the game act however you want. No injuries? Then only allow injuries for double 7's. You want to have 6 STR, 6 AGI, 12 AV Goblins? Tweak it in the file, there is no server-side validation on team creation.

Honolulu_Blue · 08-06-2009, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Uh oh.

Blood Bowl • View topic - [Solution] You DONT have to DC to cheat death.

Trouble for Cyanide. A serious programming flaw has been exposed within the multiplayer portion of the game.

Essentially, all the die rolls you make, and all the player ratings for multiplayer are housed on your local PC, and not on the multiplayer server.

Essentially, you can make the game act however you want. No injuries? Then only allow injuries for double 7's. You want to have 6 STR, 6 AGI, 12 AV Goblins? Tweak it in the file, there is no server-side validation on team creation.

You know, as much as I enjoy playing this game, Cyanide is really coming across as a horrible studio. I don't know if they are just lazy or totally incompotent, but the number of things they have (or haven't) done with this game that any group of reasonable, intelligent people could have come up with is shocking.

Passacaglia · 08-06-2009, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

I've been busily playing my 36 team championships with 9 division of 4. My Chaos team took 3 seasons to move from the 9th level up to 8th and then got promoted each year up to 5th.

I've hit a fucking brick wall. I've lost 2 straight games and tied a third. I'm worried I might actually get demoted this season. The teams are playing smarter and doing a lot more of the risky plays when the opportunity presents itself.

I need to work hard just to stay in these games this season. Its kinda freakish.

Is there a limit to the number of teams or something? I like the idea of 9 divisions and really working you way up, but -- 4 in each division? That seems low.

Passacaglia · 08-06-2009, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Uh oh.

Blood Bowl • View topic - [Solution] You DONT have to DC to cheat death.

Trouble for Cyanide. A serious programming flaw has been exposed within the multiplayer portion of the game.

Essentially, all the die rolls you make, and all the player ratings for multiplayer are housed on your local PC, and not on the multiplayer server.

Essentially, you can make the game act however you want. No injuries? Then only allow injuries for double 7's. You want to have 6 STR, 6 AGI, 12 AV Goblins? Tweak it in the file, there is no server-side validation on team creation.

Whoops. I guess I'm glad I'd only be interested in playing SP, or against people I already know.

BYU 14 · 08-06-2009, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Uh oh.

Blood Bowl • View topic - [Solution] You DONT have to DC to cheat death.

Trouble for Cyanide. A serious programming flaw has been exposed within the multiplayer portion of the game.

Essentially, all the die rolls you make, and all the player ratings for multiplayer are housed on your local PC, and not on the multiplayer server.

Essentially, you can make the game act however you want. No injuries? Then only allow injuries for double 7's. You want to have 6 STR, 6 AGI, 12 AV Goblins? Tweak it in the file, there is no server-side validation on team creation.

Just wow, it looks like they really took some shortcuts. They did do a great job capturing the gameplay, but things like this are just inexcusable.

Honolulu_Blue · 08-06-2009, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Whoops. I guess I'm glad I'd only be interested in playing SP, or against people I already know.

Same here.

Neon_Chaos · 08-06-2009, 08:49 AM

At least they're constantly coming out with patches...

Blood Bowl • View topic - [UPDATE] 1.0.1.7 PATCH (AUGUST 6) SOON AVAILABLE

Morg N' Thorg is finally available for all races.

RendeR · 08-06-2009, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Is there a limit to the number of teams or something? I like the idea of 9 divisions and really working you way up, but -- 4 in each division? That seems low.

You can have up to 56 teams in your championship or as few as 8 I think.

You cans et the # of teams in each division to all of them in 1 or 2 divisions or 4 or 8 etc etc. It will divide them accordingly.

You also have the option of playing each team 1x or 2x each round of play.

I put in 36 teams, 9 divisions, 4 teams each playing each team twice per season. So I have to play 6 games each season and win my division to advance up the chain.

RendeR · 08-06-2009, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BYU 14

Just wow, it looks like they really took some shortcuts. They did do a great job capturing the gameplay, but things like this are just inexcusable.

+1000000000000000000000

Capital · 08-06-2009, 12:45 PM

Realizing that the single-player / computer run teams have some problems, are people enjoying the SP experience? I'm likely to only play SP and was considering purchasing the game via download for the weekend.

RendeR · 08-06-2009, 02:47 PM

I'll put it this way.

I'm in both MP leagues.

I have 1 campaign that is ongoing, though I am at the pinnacle tournament at this point.

I have the following SP championships running and play each of them as the fancy takes me:

Chaos team (36 team league, 9 divisions 4 teams each)
Skaven team (54 team league 14 divisions 4 teams each)
Wood Elf team (54 team league 14 divisions 4 teams each)
Skaven team (54 team league 4 divisions 14 teams each) (FOFC dynasty thread)

I love the game, yes it has some serious issues and Cyanide is either going to bust their ass and fix them or go broke when everyone stops buying their stuff due to pathetic showing here but in general single player is fun, entertaining and can be tweaked to even become competitive over the long haul.

Love the game.

Galaril · 10-23-2009, 09:49 AM

Is this any good AI wise for single player? I was reall pumped for this when it first came out but most of what i had read was that single player AI was broke and so this was mostlya MP game. Is this true. I see Dark Elves is going to be released next month and a new full version including them is also coming out.

Honolulu_Blue · 10-23-2009, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Galaril

Is this any good AI wise for single player? I was reall pumped for this when it first came out but most of what i had read was that single player AI was broke and so this was mostlya MP game. Is this true. I see Dark Elves is going to be released next month and a new full version including them is also coming out.

No. It's not. I really had a blast with this game for a couple of weeks, but after a while the horrible AI just makes the game boring. Unless you get horribly unlucky with the dice, it's not a question of whether you will win or not, but by how many touchdowns.

The campaign portion of the game with contracts and agining is deeply flawed. It just doesn't work.

The AI is horrible. There is little rhyme or reason as to the skills the computer assigns its players. So, as your team keeps getting better and better through wisely chosen skill options, the computer teams can't keep up. If you play on "medium", the computer will take more chances and thus possibly making the game more challenging. The flipside, however, is that it takes a lot of stupid chances that make no sense and often result in a quick turnover. Playing on "hard" difficulty, reduces these stupid plays, but also makes the computer play so conservatively that it's stupid.

I think the skill choice problem would be an easy fix. That would go a long well in balancing things for single player. The actual in-game AI, I would imagine, would be much harder to improve.

That said, there are apparently a few mods floating around out there that were designed to improve AI, including skill decisions and actual in game play. I haven't downloaded or installed any of them, so I have no idea how they affect actual game play.

I play the game only occasionaly now. Once or twice every couple of weeks. Me and buddy of mine have a Lizardman team that we're having a lot of fun with. We play it while watching football on Sundays, since it's really best to have something else to do while watching the Lions.

Galaril · 10-23-2009, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

No. It's not. I really had a blast with this game for a couple of weeks, but after a while the horrible AI just makes the game boring. Unless you get horribly unlucky with the dice, it's not a question of whether you will win or not, but by how many touchdowns.

The campaign portion of the game with contracts and agining is deeply flawed. It just doesn't work.

The AI is horrible. There is little rhyme or reason as to the skills the computer assigns its players. So, as your team keeps getting better and better through wisely chosen skill options, the computer teams can't keep up. If you play on "medium", the computer will take more chances and thus possibly making the game more challenging. The flipside, however, is that it takes a lot of stupid chances that make no sense and often result in a quick turnover. Playing on "hard" difficulty, reduces these stupid plays, but also makes the computer play so conservatively that it's stupid.

I think the skill choice problem would be an easy fix. That would go a long well in balancing things for single player. The actual in-game AI, I would imagine, would be much harder to improve.

That said, there are apparently a few mods floating around out there that were designed to improve AI, including skill decisions and actual in game play. I haven't downloaded or installed any of them, so I have no idea how they affect actual game play.

I play the game only occasionaly now. Once or twice every couple of weeks. Me and buddy of mine have a Lizardman team that we're having a lot of fun with. We play it while watching football on Sundays, since it's really best to have something else to do while watching the Lions.

Ok so I guess my money will go to Wolverine studios new basketball game DDPB2 and AI War. Thanks!

Icy · 10-23-2009, 11:30 AM

I also liked it a lot during the first two weeks, but the campaign mode is poorly done.

It was really a shock to discover that the CPU vs CPU simmed games were just like throwing a coin in the air to decide who wins, and then a dice to decide the scoreboard, but there was not a real game sim engine based on teams skills etc so the standings were not based on real teams power. also the CPU team doesn't use any kind of AI to upgrade his own team players but is just random again, so you could find throwers upgrading his tacking skills etc.

I had big hopes for it, and even the game AI while not great was challenging enough for me, as i was new to the series, but the lack of depth in the campaign mode killed it for me.

Honolulu_Blue · 10-23-2009, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Icy

I also liked it a lot during the first two weeks, but the campaign mode is poorly done.

It was really a shock to discover that the CPU vs CPU simmed games were just like throwing a coin in the air to decide who wins, and then a dice to decide the scoreboard, but there was not a real game sim engine based on teams skills etc so the standings were not based on real teams power. also the CPU team doesn't use any kind of AI to upgrade his own team players but is just random again, so you could find throwers upgrading his tacking skills etc.

I had big hopes for it, and even the game AI while not great was challenging enough for me, as i was new to the series, but the lack of depth in the campaign mode killed it for me.

Yes, that was a very stunning and disappointing revelation.

DeToxRox · 10-23-2009, 11:37 AM

Maximum Blood Bowl?

RendeR · 10-23-2009, 12:02 PM

OK I gave in, after while I just stopped getting anything out of this game. Until they entirely re-write the AI and how games are simmed I've gotten everything I can from it.

Like the real thing its great for a few one-off games, but with any GW product it just seems to fail in the long term.

SirFozzie · 10-23-2009, 12:08 PM

well... I'm disappointed as anyone, but let me be a tempter.

BloodBowl

they announced today (just now) that the Dark Elves will be available as a free download soon.

RendeR · 10-23-2009, 12:09 PM

Yeah I got the email. But the basis of the game is still seriously flawed. I've just grown bored with it. I've also had some major crashing issues lately adding to my frustration.

Fidatelo · 10-23-2009, 12:48 PM

I got annoyed with it because it would only take a couple simple fixes to make it very, very playable:

1) Make the AI teams aware of what turn it is. Right now they will play out the last couple of turns as though they have all day, and once you discover that you can basically trick them into wasting their final turns setting up a play that, if the game went on for another 2-3 turns might work, but in reality just ends up with them holding the ball at midfield as they end their last turn. This would be crazy-easy to fix, I would think. If nothing else, just have them ramp up their 'risk taking' rating over the last couple turns, something that is already built into the AI.

2) The skill assignment issue, as mentioned by H_B. A relatively simple decision table based on team and player type would go a loooong way. Again, anything smarter than "random skill choice" would be a big improvement.

I get frustrated because people have suggested these fixes months ago, and it should seemingly take very little time to implement, but Cyanide just ignores it for whatever reason. I don't think I'll ever buy another Cyanide game again, because their support is atrocious.

Honolulu_Blue · 10-23-2009, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo

I get frustrated because people have suggested these fixes months ago, and it should seemingly take very little time to implement, but Cyanide just ignores it for whatever reason. I don't think I'll ever buy another Cyanide game again, because their support is atrocious.

I agree with this, which is depressing because they are the ones who will be making the computer games based on my beloved fantasy series, George RR Martin's "A Song of Ice & Fire."

Not only is their support atrocious, but the entire game reeks of laziness. The computer v. computer is the worst/best example of this. The only things that really "work" in the game are the things that came directly from GW: the rules of Blood Bowl, the skills, etc. Anything new or any aspect of the game Cyanide appeared to try and implement on its own is pretty bad.

The game was in development for a number of years. They had a strong foundation on which to build and, for whatever reason, didn't take advantage of it. At all.

WVUFAN · 01-02-2010, 04:45 PM

Really lame advertisement for a dynasty coming up:

I just bought this game on Steam, and after a brutal couple of games (I am not good at this game at all), I decided to try a competition. How do you change the number of teams from 24 to something higher?

Participate in my new Blood Bowl dynasty: The Blood Bowl: An interactive dynasty - Front Office Football Central

aran · 01-02-2010, 07:19 PM

How rampant is GW's stranglehold over the the BB rules? If someone implemented a BB game that had credible single-player but didn't provide any of the distinctive marks of BB (i.e. the name, logo, perhaps even the teams and skills), would they care?

Actually, this would be an interesting test-case for copyright law.

Mota · 01-03-2010, 06:59 PM

Cyanide, the creators of the Blood Bowl videogame have already done this. They initially started with a "ripoff" of BB and somehow they're now the developers of the official game.

WVUFAN · 01-04-2010, 08:42 AM

When you're first buying your team, is there a way to pick skills to start a player with? In other words, can I purchase a human thrower with a different starting skill than Pass and Sure Hands?

SirFozzie · 01-04-2010, 08:45 AM

nope. Every human thrower will have pass/sure hands to start

Passacaglia · 07-29-2010, 10:38 AM

All right! I've had the game for a few weeks now, but it did not run well at all on my laptop. Got my new desktop working last night, and will install the game sometime today. I'm going to join this league, http://oldworldfootball.com/ -- for those of you HFLers who remember Thul, he's in this league. If you want to join with me, that'd be fun!

I'm trying to decide what race to play -- the race with the fewest teams are Goblins (2), Humans (4), Dwarves (4), Wood Elves (4). Thul told me not to play Goblins, and Humans sound boring, so that leaves Dwarves and Wood Elves. Someone has a Wood Elf team in the "training league" so I guess I should do dwarves, but I remember looking at the rulebook and liking Wood Elves. Is there something I'm missing, and dwarves aren't as bad as they seem?

Honolulu_Blue · 07-29-2010, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I'm trying to decide what race to play -- the race with the fewest teams are Goblins (2), Humans (4), Dwarves (4), Wood Elves (4). Thul told me not to play Goblins, and Humans sound boring, so that leaves Dwarves and Wood Elves. Someone has a Wood Elf team in the "training league" so I guess I should do dwarves, but I remember looking at the rulebook and liking Wood Elves. Is there something I'm missing, and dwarves aren't as bad as they seem?

Yeah, don't take goblins. I always liked taking human teams. They may seem boring, but they are actually a lot of fun. I tend prefer to take teams that are less bashy and more flashy, so I'd go with wood elves over dwarves. Dwarves are a solid choice, however.

I really wish this game was better for single player.

Warhammer · 07-29-2010, 02:03 PM

Dwarves are the anti-woody team. Wood Elves while fragile, you can win a game with 5 on the pitch. Not sure if it is still possible, but you used to be able to get each player with blodge, which makes for a solid player and eliminates much of their downside which is their fragility.

Passacaglia · 07-30-2010, 09:05 AM

I'm thinking I'll go dwarves. I was playing as wood elves last night, and I think I realized that I play pretty bashy, even with fast teams. This morning, though, I started a campaign as dwarves, and my first match was against dwarves -- we basically just hit each other the entire first half.

Anyway, I left blood bowl open overnight last night, and this morning, it was closed -- no big deal, looks like the computer restarted. But this morning, I stepped away from it to feed the baby, and when I got back it was closed again, and this time the PC hadn't restarted. Is that something with the game ( I had it "paused" by clicking menu) or maybe a Windows 7 thing?

Shepp · 10-29-2010, 12:42 PM

It looks like the "Legendary Edition" is now out. Is anyone still interested in this? Can anyone say if this version has any improved mechanics or if its just the same game with a bunch of new teams added?

Honolulu_Blue · 10-29-2010, 12:46 PM

I poked around a bit on the forums and couldn't get a good read as to whether its the same game with a bunch of new teams or something more.

My biggest gripe with the game was the horrible AI, since I really only play single player and my sense is that they really haven't done much to improve the AI. It sounds like they did fix the stupid SPP point issue, where teams would assign non-sensical abilities to certain players. That helps a lot, if true, but I am not sure if it's enough.

I may pick it up at some point when I find it in the bargain bin during some super Steam sale or something.

Warhammer · 05-14-2012, 02:00 PM

Figured I would bump this since anyone interested would most likely look at the thread...

Any of you guys up on FUMBBL.com? Would it make sense to make a FOFC league?

Groundhog · 05-14-2012, 06:07 PM

I've been looking to get back into FUMBBL the past month or so. I'd be interested, but could be an issue organising game times given my timezone.

SirFozzie · 05-14-2012, 08:02 PM

I'd be interested.

Also, a third edition of BB is set to be released, adding four or so n ew teams and general fixes (Blood Bowl: Chaos Edition)

Groundhog · 05-15-2012, 12:19 AM

Chaos Dwarves are my fave team so I'm excited for the new version. I've never played even a single online game using the BB video game as I think FUMBBL is better for that kind of thing, but I enjoy beating up on the (generally hopelessly inept) AI.

NobodyHere · 04-15-2014, 02:53 PM

Little short on gameplay info, but me wants!

07-20-2009, 01:12 PM	#401
Havok College Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Florida	Im trying to add it using SQL lite but im having problems. I keep getting an error. Nobody explians in very much detail how exactly to use SQL lite and how to add these mods. I have no modding experience what so ever. __________________ Maniacal Misfitz - We're better than you and we know it!

07-20-2009, 03:48 PM	#403
Capital High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000	Is this game available in the states? I haven't seen it anywhere. Just saw that it was available at gogamer. I could buy it from there... Last edited by Capital : 07-20-2009 at 03:50 PM.

07-20-2009, 04:16 PM	#405
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	I got it last week from gogamer on PC DVD for $30. So, I think it's out there now in a non-download format. __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

07-21-2009, 10:52 AM	#409
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	I've been busily playing my 36 team championships with 9 division of 4. My Chaos team took 3 seasons to move from the 9th level up to 8th and then got promoted each year up to 5th. I've hit a fucking brick wall. I've lost 2 straight games and tied a third. I'm worried I might actually get demoted this season. The teams are playing smarter and doing a lot more of the risky plays when the opportunity presents itself. I need to work hard just to stay in these games this season. Its kinda freakish. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

07-22-2009, 08:20 AM	#410
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	I've finally found a boxed version of this here in the Philippines. Apparently, the store was only sent ONE COPY. It's $41.00, and I've reserved it and am picking it up tomorrow. __________________ Come and see. Last edited by Neon_Chaos : 07-22-2009 at 08:22 AM.

07-20-2009, 04:18 PM	#406
thesloppy Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: PDX	I switched from a human campaign, to an orc premiere-style competition a while ago, and lately I've been a little too dominant, much like everybody else. After playing the humans, the Orcs have been a breeze, because of their relatively high armor and strength....unfortunately, because my competition is so long (13 games), and because I'm playing without aging or contracts, my team outvalues all of the other 54 teams by a sizable margin, to the point that a team I was playing the other day got over a million dollars in inducements. My orcs never seem to get injured, whereas the computer teams are getting tore up in their 'sim' games, so the longer things go on, the easier it's getting....it still is kinda fun to mop the floor with people though, and the dice stick me with a draw here and there.

07-23-2009, 06:42 AM	#411
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	Picked the game up, took it for a spin before going to work, played around 3 matches as Dwarves, and am very happy with my purchase. Can't wait to get home and begin a proper game. __________________ Come and see.

07-30-2009, 07:51 AM	#412
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	SirFoz, you should update the first post with the usernames of people in Bloodbowl. It would be nice if I can see you guys on and challenge for a game or two. Mine is simple enough: NeonChaos __________________ Come and see.

08-06-2009, 07:53 AM	#413
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	Uh oh. Blood Bowl • View topic - [Solution] You DONT have to DC to cheat death. Trouble for Cyanide. A serious programming flaw has been exposed within the multiplayer portion of the game. Essentially, all the die rolls you make, and all the player ratings for multiplayer are housed on your local PC, and not on the multiplayer server. Essentially, you can make the game act however you want. No injuries? Then only allow injuries for double 7's. You want to have 6 STR, 6 AGI, 12 AV Goblins? Tweak it in the file, there is no server-side validation on team creation. __________________ Come and see.

08-06-2009, 08:49 AM	#419
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	At least they're constantly coming out with patches... Blood Bowl • View topic - [UPDATE] 1.0.1.7 PATCH (AUGUST 6) SOON AVAILABLE Morg N' Thorg is finally available for all races. __________________ Come and see.

08-06-2009, 12:45 PM	#422
Capital High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000	Realizing that the single-player / computer run teams have some problems, are people enjoying the SP experience? I'm likely to only play SP and was considering purchasing the game via download for the weekend.

08-06-2009, 02:47 PM	#423
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	I'll put it this way. I'm in both MP leagues. I have 1 campaign that is ongoing, though I am at the pinnacle tournament at this point. I have the following SP championships running and play each of them as the fancy takes me: Chaos team (36 team league, 9 divisions 4 teams each) Skaven team (54 team league 14 divisions 4 teams each) Wood Elf team (54 team league 14 divisions 4 teams each) Skaven team (54 team league 4 divisions 14 teams each) (FOFC dynasty thread) I love the game, yes it has some serious issues and Cyanide is either going to bust their ass and fix them or go broke when everyone stops buying their stuff due to pathetic showing here but in general single player is fun, entertaining and can be tweaked to even become competitive over the long haul. Love the game. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

10-23-2009, 09:49 AM	#424
Galaril Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2004	Is this any good AI wise for single player? I was reall pumped for this when it first came out but most of what i had read was that single player AI was broke and so this was mostlya MP game. Is this true. I see Dark Elves is going to be released next month and a new full version including them is also coming out.

10-23-2009, 11:30 AM	#427
Icy Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Toledo - Spain	I also liked it a lot during the first two weeks, but the campaign mode is poorly done. It was really a shock to discover that the CPU vs CPU simmed games were just like throwing a coin in the air to decide who wins, and then a dice to decide the scoreboard, but there was not a real game sim engine based on teams skills etc so the standings were not based on real teams power. also the CPU team doesn't use any kind of AI to upgrade his own team players but is just random again, so you could find throwers upgrading his tacking skills etc. I had big hopes for it, and even the game AI while not great was challenging enough for me, as i was new to the series, but the lack of depth in the campaign mode killed it for me. __________________ Last edited by Icy : 10-23-2009 at 11:32 AM.

10-23-2009, 11:37 AM	#429
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Maximum Blood Bowl?

10-23-2009, 12:02 PM	#430
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	OK I gave in, after while I just stopped getting anything out of this game. Until they entirely re-write the AI and how games are simmed I've gotten everything I can from it. Like the real thing its great for a few one-off games, but with any GW product it just seems to fail in the long term. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

10-23-2009, 12:08 PM	#431
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	well... I'm disappointed as anyone, but let me be a tempter. BloodBowl they announced today (just now) that the Dark Elves will be available as a free download soon. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

10-23-2009, 12:09 PM	#432
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	Yeah I got the email. But the basis of the game is still seriously flawed. I've just grown bored with it. I've also had some major crashing issues lately adding to my frustration. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

10-23-2009, 12:48 PM	#433
Fidatelo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB	I got annoyed with it because it would only take a couple simple fixes to make it very, very playable: 1) Make the AI teams aware of what turn it is. Right now they will play out the last couple of turns as though they have all day, and once you discover that you can basically trick them into wasting their final turns setting up a play that, if the game went on for another 2-3 turns might work, but in reality just ends up with them holding the ball at midfield as they end their last turn. This would be crazy-easy to fix, I would think. If nothing else, just have them ramp up their 'risk taking' rating over the last couple turns, something that is already built into the AI. 2) The skill assignment issue, as mentioned by H_B. A relatively simple decision table based on team and player type would go a loooong way. Again, anything smarter than "random skill choice" would be a big improvement. I get frustrated because people have suggested these fixes months ago, and it should seemingly take very little time to implement, but Cyanide just ignores it for whatever reason. I don't think I'll ever buy another Cyanide game again, because their support is atrocious. __________________ "Breakfast? Breakfast schmekfast, look at the score for God's sake. It's only the second period and I'm winning 12-2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene, but Hartford, the Whale, they only beat Vancouver maybe once or twice in a lifetime."

01-02-2010, 04:45 PM	#435
WVUFAN College Starter Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Huntington, WV	Really lame advertisement for a dynasty coming up: I just bought this game on Steam, and after a brutal couple of games (I am not good at this game at all), I decided to try a competition. How do you change the number of teams from 24 to something higher? Participate in my new Blood Bowl dynasty: The Blood Bowl: An interactive dynasty - Front Office Football Central

01-02-2010, 07:19 PM	#436
aran High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Jersey, USA	How rampant is GW's stranglehold over the the BB rules? If someone implemented a BB game that had credible single-player but didn't provide any of the distinctive marks of BB (i.e. the name, logo, perhaps even the teams and skills), would they care? Actually, this would be an interesting test-case for copyright law.

01-03-2010, 06:59 PM	#437
Mota College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2001	Cyanide, the creators of the Blood Bowl videogame have already done this. They initially started with a "ripoff" of BB and somehow they're now the developers of the official game.

01-04-2010, 08:42 AM	#438
WVUFAN College Starter Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Huntington, WV	When you're first buying your team, is there a way to pick skills to start a player with? In other words, can I purchase a human thrower with a different starting skill than Pass and Sure Hands? __________________

01-04-2010, 08:45 AM	#439
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	nope. Every human thrower will have pass/sure hands to start __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

07-29-2010, 10:38 AM	#440
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	All right! I've had the game for a few weeks now, but it did not run well at all on my laptop. Got my new desktop working last night, and will install the game sometime today. I'm going to join this league, http://oldworldfootball.com/ -- for those of you HFLers who remember Thul, he's in this league. If you want to join with me, that'd be fun! I'm trying to decide what race to play -- the race with the fewest teams are Goblins (2), Humans (4), Dwarves (4), Wood Elves (4). Thul told me not to play Goblins, and Humans sound boring, so that leaves Dwarves and Wood Elves. Someone has a Wood Elf team in the "training league" so I guess I should do dwarves, but I remember looking at the rulebook and liking Wood Elves. Is there something I'm missing, and dwarves aren't as bad as they seem?

07-29-2010, 02:03 PM	#442
Warhammer Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dayton, OH	Dwarves are the anti-woody team. Wood Elves while fragile, you can win a game with 5 on the pitch. Not sure if it is still possible, but you used to be able to get each player with blodge, which makes for a solid player and eliminates much of their downside which is their fragility.

07-30-2010, 09:05 AM	#443
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	I'm thinking I'll go dwarves. I was playing as wood elves last night, and I think I realized that I play pretty bashy, even with fast teams. This morning, though, I started a campaign as dwarves, and my first match was against dwarves -- we basically just hit each other the entire first half. Anyway, I left blood bowl open overnight last night, and this morning, it was closed -- no big deal, looks like the computer restarted. But this morning, I stepped away from it to feed the baby, and when I got back it was closed again, and this time the PC hadn't restarted. Is that something with the game ( I had it "paused" by clicking menu) or maybe a Windows 7 thing?

10-29-2010, 12:42 PM	#444
Shepp High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Atlanta, GA	It looks like the "Legendary Edition" is now out. Is anyone still interested in this? Can anyone say if this version has any improved mechanics or if its just the same game with a bunch of new teams added? Last edited by Shepp : 10-29-2010 at 12:46 PM.

10-29-2010, 12:46 PM	#445
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	I poked around a bit on the forums and couldn't get a good read as to whether its the same game with a bunch of new teams or something more. My biggest gripe with the game was the horrible AI, since I really only play single player and my sense is that they really haven't done much to improve the AI. It sounds like they did fix the stupid SPP point issue, where teams would assign non-sensical abilities to certain players. That helps a lot, if true, but I am not sure if it's enough. I may pick it up at some point when I find it in the bargain bin during some super Steam sale or something. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

05-14-2012, 02:00 PM	#446
Warhammer Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dayton, OH	Figured I would bump this since anyone interested would most likely look at the thread... Any of you guys up on FUMBBL.com? Would it make sense to make a FOFC league?

05-14-2012, 06:07 PM	#447
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	I've been looking to get back into FUMBBL the past month or so. I'd be interested, but could be an issue organising game times given my timezone. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

05-14-2012, 08:02 PM	#448
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	I'd be interested. Also, a third edition of BB is set to be released, adding four or so n ew teams and general fixes (Blood Bowl: Chaos Edition) __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

05-15-2012, 12:19 AM	#449
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Chaos Dwarves are my fave team so I'm excited for the new version. I've never played even a single online game using the BB video game as I think FUMBBL is better for that kind of thing, but I enjoy beating up on the (generally hopelessly inept) AI. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

04-15-2014, 02:53 PM	#450
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	Little short on gameplay info, but me wants! __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney" Last edited by NobodyHere : 04-15-2014 at 02:53 PM.

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