GroupThink 3 - Kitty Hawk, 2022 - Page 9

Fritz · 10-13-2003, 08:52 AM

I hate to be the bottleneck, but I can't get to my part until Tues.

Buzzbee · 10-13-2003, 08:57 AM

Quick and Dirty SCOUTING REPORT: Hawk Mountain Sharpshins

Offense
They have three pretty equal QB's, with differing talents. Look for preseason to be a tryout for who wins the job. No matter who wins, they will have a superstar to throw to in FL Mark Farrell. SE Jesse McHugh returns this year from injury and is a good alternative to Farrell, but not nearly as talented.

Look for Rookie RB Marco Huerta tp make an impact. He is already a pro level running back with Pro-Bowl abilities. The only knock on him is that he is a pure runner, with square stones for hands. He can't catch a cold.

The O Line is pretty solid at the tackle position, average at guard, and a little weak at center.

Defense
The defensive line is strong on the left, but somewhat weaker on the right. A strong side rushing attack should be succussful.
The linebacking group is fairly typical of the league, with talent and depth at SLB and MLB but holes at WLB. MLB Phil Worthy is better than most MLB's. The secondary is pretty good, with LCB Joseph George being a top notch cover corner. The other corner and the safeties are also better than average. Look for safety Burt Fyie to be among the leaders in interceptions.

Buzzbee · 10-13-2003, 09:04 AM

Extremely Quick and Dirty SCOUTING REPORT: Sacremento Royals

Offense
Not very good at the skill positions, they have two pretty decent receivers, no good backs, average QB's at best, and a weak offensive line. We should have a good defensive day.

UPDATE: The two decent receivers are both Flankers. The SE is not very good, and since the SE will start, double-teaming the top WR should prove effective. We may give up a little to the 3rd WR, but we won't give up as much as we'll gain on the double-team.

Their Center is VERY strong, but the rest of the line is average at best, with their right side being the weakest. Look for Middleton to have a pretty good day.

Defense
They have some excellent talent at certain positions, but overall, we should win on talent. Players of note: NT Stanley Quesnel, SLB Clyde Dragos & Jim Money, LCB Norm Carr, and FS Shannon Regalia.

UPDATE:
They run a 3-4 defense built around their NT. The DE's aren't very good, but watch out for the RDE, Dominic Glenn. He was their top pick in the draft, and one of the DE's we were hoping we might get. They are pretty good at SLB as they have two very talented backers (Dragos & Money). However, even though they run the 3-4 they start a much weaker SILB (Riddock)rather than the backup SLB Money. It's a shame too, because Money has the potential to max out jsut about every category. As a result, they are soft at the ILB spots. If we can get past NT Quesnel (which is a BIG if) we should be able to get some good yardage.

LCB Norm Carr is the class of the secondary. However, the rest of the CB's are roster fillers at BEST! SS McKnight is a very good strong safety and can make the big pick when needed. However, he is overshadowed by FS Shannon Regalia. Regalia does everything well.

albionmoonlight · 10-13-2003, 09:07 AM

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Originally posted by Fritz
I hate to be the bottleneck, but I can't get to my part until Tues.

No worries. Until GT pays our bills, I think that it is prudent for us to focus on our day jobs.

cuervo72 · 10-13-2003, 09:03 PM

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Originally posted by albionmoonlight
No worries. Until GT pays our bills, I think that it is prudent for us to focus on our day jobs.

His day job might have been on vacation today, as mine was

But that is a very good point.

Fritz · 10-14-2003, 05:27 AM

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Originally posted by albionmoonlight
No worries. Until GT pays our bills, I think that it is prudent for us to focus on our day jobs.

heh, I have to be at my day job to do the GT work.

Buzzbee · 10-14-2003, 06:27 AM

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Originally posted by Fritz
heh, I have to be at my day job to do the GT work.

Damn Government contractors!

Buzzbee · 10-14-2003, 06:58 AM

I updated the last two scouting reports since they were somewhat skimpy. Hawk Mountain report didn't change much at all. Sacremento was a significant update.

The only additional thing to look for as we sim those games will be key injuries.

cuervo72 · 10-14-2003, 07:15 AM

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Originally posted by Buzzbee
Damn Government contractors!

Hey now...and ditto what Fritz said.

Fritz · 10-14-2003, 07:38 AM

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Originally posted by Buzzbee
Damn Government contractors!

I hate them too.

Fritz · 10-14-2003, 07:55 AM

damn it, the play calling interface was set to go.

Fritz · 10-14-2003, 08:39 AM

managing the preseason

since the D roster was not set, I decided to employ a "hide the stars" approach to preseason. We have a lot of young players on the field this year.

I have also made some strong changes to the gameplan. The run % is up, and the pass distance is much further out. Lets see where they play their S.

G1: Kitty Hawk 20 at Wheeling 17

Kowalski carried 15 times, but that is fine because Strong ran 13 for 110 yards. Ellison had 107 yards through the air. Mills was the star of the D. Duran is out for 4.

G2: Pensacola 24 at Kitty Hawk 31

Rapp had a 4 sack game. Rookie C Alston had 4 KRBs.

Manning, Mills, Plank - all out

G3: Kitty Hawk 25 at Lake Erie 35

G4: Fort Knox 35 at Kitty Hawk 29

Fritz · 10-14-2003, 08:41 AM

file 1

Fritz · 10-14-2003, 08:42 AM

file 2

Buzzbee · 10-14-2003, 09:50 AM

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Originally posted by Fritz
Manning, Mills, Plank - all out

Tell us how long, man. Tell us how long!

QuikSand · 10-14-2003, 10:32 AM

From: Personnel Department

Injury Report:

Rondell Kowalski, FB - Knee Bursitis, Probable, full strength in about 1 week.

Bryan Manning, LDE - Hyperextended Knee, Probable, full strength in about 1 week.

J.J. Mills, SLB - Hyperextended Knee, Questionable, full strength in about 2 weeks.

Oscar Plank, MLB - Broken Foot, Doubtful, full strength in about 4 weeks.

Sam Upshaw, LDE - Concussion, Probable, full strength in about 1 week.

Kerry Satterlee, MLB - Strained Quadriceps Muscle, Probable, full strength in about 3 weeks.

albionmoonlight · 10-14-2003, 10:37 AM

Did people want me to sim the first four games tonight, or Fritz to sim them today? If so, I would like the questionable and doubtful LBs to sit in favor of their backups. (I don't have the file in front of me, so I am not sure who.)

Since it looks like most of the adjustments have to be on D, it may make sense for me to sim tonight., but I am cool with whatever. Fritz can send me any O gameplan changes based on the scouting reports.

Buzzbee · 10-14-2003, 10:41 AM

Thanks QS. At least none of them are serious.

Fritz · 10-14-2003, 10:53 AM

I made my gameplan changes. I just need to forward the depth chart after we make cuts.

For the interested observer, the O plan is a bit extreme.

Those last two losses are all my fault. I was trying my best to cripple Kowalski and Diana.

As for simming, I can not spend any more time with game open today.

QuikSand · 10-14-2003, 10:54 AM

A few notes from the preseason:

Some good running from RB Rob Strong, our forgotten man:

Code:

   Rushing		Att	Yards	Avg	Long	TD
   24 Strong		13	110	8.4	27	1
   24 Strong		9	45	5.0	12	0
   24 Strong		5	6	1.2	3	0
   24 Strong		7	23	3.2	12	0

That's 34 carries for 184 yards - a solid 5.4 ypc average. This guy is a pretty solid reserve - especialy bried at #3 on the real depth chart.

What we saw from QB2 Ethan Francis wasn't all that encouraging... but I'm not panicked quite yet. He looks good on paper - and in a real game situation, surrounded by our real weapons, he should have a better shot - if it comes to that. QB3 Tittle actually loked okay in limited duty - but its' tough to see him developing much beyond where he is - a #3 caliber guy.

LB Percy Rapp, presumably playing in the "Sam" slot and blitzing a good deal, had a four-sack game... but then put up marginal stans in each other game. Have to think that there is some promise for that spot - as Middleton is a far better pass rusher than Rapp seems to be.

QuikSand · 10-14-2003, 10:56 AM

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Originally posted by Fritz
Those last two losses are all my fault. I was trying my best to cripple Kowalski and Diana.

I figured as much... wasn't going to call you out on it, though.

Fritz · 10-14-2003, 11:02 AM

Based on your conversion earlier this season, I think our #2 HB ought to be moved to WR. Only if we are going to keep him around though.

QuikSand · 10-14-2003, 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by Fritz
Based on your conversion earlier this season, I think our #2 HB ought to be moved to WR. Only if we are going to keep him around though.

Harden???

Okay, here's what we'd see if we switched him... he would lose quite a lot of his current ratings, but would probably retain pretty good potential in most of his key areas. You'd see his rating in something like "getting downfield" drop from 80/94 to something like 20/70. Still might be a good player at WR... but there's a real cost, especially after a couple of training camps and a full season at the RB position.

At 215 lbs, he's a little bit heavy for the switch (look back - our last two switches went very well for the guy at 210, and so-so for the guy at 218) but would probably make it all right, but not fully intact.

In my view, he is far more valuable to us as a well-developed RB2, and possibly as an option to become our starter if we are in a salary pinch next season (if he would be cheaper than Finley). We can, of course, use him as a WR while leaving him in a RB slot... I have to think that the penalty for the out-of-position use would be less than the formal position switch.

cuervo72 · 10-14-2003, 11:18 AM

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Originally posted by QuikSand
I figured as much... wasn't going to call you out on it, though.

I had that suspicion as well (Kowalski was actually pretty productive one of those games).

I'm guessing Francis does a little better when he's not heaving the ball deep every pass play. Though that didn't hurt the other guys quite as much.

Fritz · 10-14-2003, 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by cuervo72
I had that suspicion as well (Kowalski was actually pretty productive one of those games).

I'm guessing Francis does a little better when he's not heaving the ball deep every pass play. Though that didn't hurt the other guys quite as much.

Francis should do very well in this system. We will see about Sparks.

Buzzbee · 10-14-2003, 12:25 PM

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Originally posted by QuikSand
A few notes from the preseason:

Some good running from RB Rob Strong, our forgotten man:

Code:

Rushing Att Yards Avg Long TD 24 Strong 13 110 8.4 27 1 24 Strong 9 45 5.0 12 0 24 Strong 5 6 1.2 3 0 24 Strong 7 23 3.2 12 0

That's 34 carries for 184 yards - a solid 5.4 ypc average. This guy is a pretty solid reserve - especialy bried at #3 on the real depth chart.

I'm curious about Strong's career numbers. I noticed last pre-season that he had a couple of pretty good games. Do you think Strong is just that good at getting the yardage, or do you think it is a product of our fairly stout O Line?

cuervo72 · 10-14-2003, 12:29 PM

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Originally posted by Fritz
Francis should do very well in this system. We will see about Sparks.

That's what I'd have thought, with his long ball ability. The int/accuracy might hurt him for a little while though.

Fritz · 10-14-2003, 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by cuervo72
That's what I'd have thought, with his long ball ability. The int/accuracy might hurt him for a little while though.

The int part does not bother me as much with the long ball because of where they get the turnover. Likewise, I look at downfield throwing as something to offset accuracy problems. We should be okay if we can get 53 to 55%.

QuikSand · 10-14-2003, 12:59 PM

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Originally posted by Buzzbee
I'm curious about Strong's career numbers. I noticed last pre-season that he had a couple of pretty good games. Do you think Strong is just that good at getting the yardage, or do you think it is a product of our fairly stout O Line?

By his ratings, I'd say the latter - he doesn't seem to have really standout skills (unlike Harden, who does). I suspect he's a product of our line to a sizable degree.

cuervo72 · 10-14-2003, 01:01 PM

Good point, as long as the long ball is long enough and returns are held to a minimum.

Al Davis would be proud....

Fritz · 10-14-2003, 01:09 PM

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Originally posted by QuikSand
By his ratings, I'd say the latter - he doesn't seem to have really standout skills (unlike Harden, who does). I suspect he's a product of our line to a sizable degree.

during this preseason, I had our beefy line on the bench.

cuervo72 · 10-14-2003, 02:11 PM

So......who are our cuts, anyway?

QuikSand · 10-14-2003, 02:11 PM

Are we running games tonight?

Buzzbee · 10-14-2003, 02:16 PM

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Originally posted by Fritz
during this preseason, I had our beefy line on the bench.

I think the same was true last season. Fritz's power was on the Fritz with Isabel, so I did the offensive depth charts for the preseason. If I remember correctly I benched most of our starters with the starting LT being the exception. Center was a tryout between Cicci and Perry. RG was Irv Wallace seeing if he would make the team. I can't remember who I used for LG or RT.

Things that make you go hmmmm.

albionmoonlight · 10-14-2003, 03:06 PM

I can probably run the first four games tonight. I will trust the group judgment as to cuts. If someone can make cuts today and post the new file, I will download it tonight play four games.

QuikSand · 10-14-2003, 04:23 PM

Based on the expressed preferences of our coordinators and staff, here is a stab at the cut-down list:

RB Dennis Rivers
FB Peter Robinson
WR Eric Mixon
WR Nolan Irwin
G Karl Preston
LB Kerry Satterlee
S Grady Yamashita

I realize we drafted WR Nolan Irwin, but I just don't see how he competes for a job on this team. He'd be, at best, our 6th WR... with precious little chance to get any higher up than that, assuming Fritz can indeed get something our of his "trust me" pick Jefferson. I don't know what led to Irwin being drafted, but I see him as completely superfluous.

That might cut a little deeper than the OC would like - he may find it desirable to keep 3 FBs and 3 TEs (I rarely keep 3 of either one in my own careers), but I felt like cutting FB Robinson hurt the team less that cutting another linebacker, for instance, or one of our corners.

There's a rough draft - I defer tot he coordinators, though, if they can add/subtract from it.

Buzzbee · 10-14-2003, 08:53 PM

If I were making cuts, here are the players I'd cut:

1st I'd switch Eric Mixon back to RB, his natural postion.

Then cut:
RB Dennis Rivers
SE Nolan Irwin
RG Irv Wallace
RG Karl Preston
SILB Kurt Moe
MLB Kerry Satterlee
SS Grady Yamashita

RG Jerry Johnson makes RG Irv Wallace expendable. Also, Wallace is in the last year of his contract, with no bonus. Johnson has 3 years left with $550,000 in bonus each year.

Buzzbee · 10-14-2003, 09:08 PM

There is one small problem.

I was going through releasing players to see who I would suggest making inactive. When I got to SILB Kerry Satterlee I was not able to release him. Apparently the game won't let us release injured players.

Therefore we can't cut Satterlee until he is healty (3 weeks). This means that we will have to cut a healthy player that we otherwise wouldn't cut so that we can trim the roster to 53.

My suggestion if we really do want to cut Satterlee is cut either Kendrick Ellison or Chad Jefferson for the three week period and then if they are available when Satterlee is able to be released, pick Ellison or Jefferson back up.

albionmoonlight · 10-14-2003, 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by Buzzbee

My suggestion if we really do want to cut Satterlee is cut either Kendrick Ellison or Chad Jefferson for the three week period and then if they are available when Satterlee is able to be released, pick Ellison or Jefferson back up.

We can't pick them back up, right? They will be mad at us forever?h

albionmoonlight · 10-14-2003, 10:12 PM

I see Fritz is online. I am making cuts now based on B & Q's recs. Do you need to change your depth chart tomorrow before I sim?

cuervo72 · 10-14-2003, 10:18 PM

What about DE Geoff Emerson? How do our numbers look at DE, and if they would be ok would he be deemed expendable? Or does he factor into the D plans?

I think they would be mad at us forever if we cut them, at least that's what I've found.

Can we put Satterlee on IR, and then cut him when he gets healthy? Can you cut guys from IR?

cthomer5000 · 10-14-2003, 10:27 PM

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Originally posted by Buzzbee
There is one small problem.

I was going through releasing players to see who I would suggest making inactive. When I got to SILB Kerry Satterlee I was not able to release him. Apparently the game won't let us release injured players.

Therefore we can't cut Satterlee until he is healty (3 weeks). This means that we will have to cut a healthy player that we otherwise wouldn't cut so that we can trim the roster to 53.

My suggestion if we really do want to cut Satterlee is cut either Kendrick Ellison or Chad Jefferson for the three week period and then if they are available when Satterlee is able to be released, pick Ellison or Jefferson back up.

If you were going to cut him, why not just put him on injured reserve? he's never going to play for you again anyway.

albionmoonlight · 10-14-2003, 10:38 PM

I did see the Emerson thing and I did cut him.

I did not even think of IR. That would have saved us a roster spot.

albionmoonlight · 10-14-2003, 10:45 PM

Mazatlan (19) at Kitty Hawk (34)

I geared toward stopping the pass, and they still passed for almost 400 yards. We also only got one sack and one interception.

Special Teams did well. Duran had 3 kick returns for 106 yards, and McNeil had 2 kick returns for 86 yards.

Finley and Harden were a perfect 1-2 punch on offense--Finley had 14 rushes for 56 yards. Harden had 13 rushes for 76 yards.

Sparks was 11-25 for 197 yards--a product of the new downfield throwing system, no doubt.

Song still managed 100 yards receiving exactally.

Daniels may be poised for a DPOY year. 10 tackles, 3 assists, and one sack.

Brian Manning is OUT with a knee injury--I think he took it too literally when we told him that he would have to replace Martin on our D.

albionmoonlight · 10-14-2003, 10:52 PM

I picked up C.J. Johnstone off the street to give us 3 atcive DEs. I don't know if that is a technical violation of our rules or not, but he sucks, so I did not do it for any competitive advantage.

He has an affinity with Littlejohn and low leadership (and we will probably cut him anyway when we can).

albionmoonlight · 10-14-2003, 10:59 PM

Kitty Hawk (17) at Louisville (24)

Who let the dogs out? There were nine sacks total in this game. They got 4; we picked up 5.

Duran had an interception return for a touchdown.

Sparks threw 3 picks, and both Finley and Harden were grounded.

Our D was set to stop the pass, and their #1 back ran for over 100 yards on only 15 carries.

I am somewhat distressed because we gave up a lot of yards through the air again (255).

I have been playing a pretty pass heavy D, but teams are still passing all over us.

albionmoonlight · 10-14-2003, 11:07 PM

Hawk Mountain (19) at Kitty Hawk (17)

We lost again.

Finley and Sparks did well when they got the ball, but only had 23 rushes between them.

They killed us with pin pricks--four field goals.

Longfellow (their RB) carried the rock 26 times for 102 yards. His longest carry was 11 yards. An Eddie George day at the park, and enough to control the clock and keep the ball out of our hands.

Weiley is out.

albionmoonlight · 10-14-2003, 11:15 PM

Sacramento (27) at Kitty Hawk (21)

These are not as fun to write when we lose.

Their QB had a field day--60% passing, over 300 yards, and 4 touchdowns.

We tried to establish the run--44 rushes total, but only for 3.2 YPC.

We were 8 for 20 on third down, so we seemed to face a lot of third downs (though we did convert almost 1/2 of them, so that is a positive and a negative).

We actually started this game with a two TD lead.

I am going to tweak the D a bit before I send the file back.

Tomorrow, people who can access the files may want to do a post-mortem of the team and see what we can do.

albionmoonlight · 10-14-2003, 11:24 PM

File 1

(Before you point it out to me--dumb ass me messed up with Mills after he came back from injury. He has not been playing. My bad in a big way.)

albionmoonlight · 10-14-2003, 11:25 PM

10-13-2003, 08:52 AM	#401
Fritz Lethargic Hooligan Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: hello kitty found my wallet at a big tent revival and returned it with all the cash missing	I hate to be the bottleneck, but I can't get to my part until Tues. __________________ donkey, donkey, walk a little faster

10-13-2003, 08:57 AM	#402
Buzzbee College Starter Join Date: Jun 2002	Quick and Dirty SCOUTING REPORT: Hawk Mountain Sharpshins Offense They have three pretty equal QB's, with differing talents. Look for preseason to be a tryout for who wins the job. No matter who wins, they will have a superstar to throw to in FL Mark Farrell. SE Jesse McHugh returns this year from injury and is a good alternative to Farrell, but not nearly as talented. Look for Rookie RB Marco Huerta tp make an impact. He is already a pro level running back with Pro-Bowl abilities. The only knock on him is that he is a pure runner, with square stones for hands. He can't catch a cold. The O Line is pretty solid at the tackle position, average at guard, and a little weak at center. Defense The defensive line is strong on the left, but somewhat weaker on the right. A strong side rushing attack should be succussful. The linebacking group is fairly typical of the league, with talent and depth at SLB and MLB but holes at WLB. MLB Phil Worthy is better than most MLB's. The secondary is pretty good, with LCB Joseph George being a top notch cover corner. The other corner and the safeties are also better than average. Look for safety Burt Fyie to be among the leaders in interceptions. __________________ Ability is what you're capable of doing. Motivation determines what you do. Attitude determines how well you do it. - Lou Holtz Last edited by Buzzbee : 10-14-2003 at 06:52 AM.

10-13-2003, 09:04 AM	#403
Buzzbee College Starter Join Date: Jun 2002	Extremely Quick and Dirty SCOUTING REPORT: Sacremento Royals Offense Not very good at the skill positions, they have two pretty decent receivers, no good backs, average QB's at best, and a weak offensive line. We should have a good defensive day. UPDATE: The two decent receivers are both Flankers. The SE is not very good, and since the SE will start, double-teaming the top WR should prove effective. We may give up a little to the 3rd WR, but we won't give up as much as we'll gain on the double-team. Their Center is VERY strong, but the rest of the line is average at best, with their right side being the weakest. Look for Middleton to have a pretty good day. Defense They have some excellent talent at certain positions, but overall, we should win on talent. Players of note: NT Stanley Quesnel, SLB Clyde Dragos & Jim Money, LCB Norm Carr, and FS Shannon Regalia. UPDATE: They run a 3-4 defense built around their NT. The DE's aren't very good, but watch out for the RDE, Dominic Glenn. He was their top pick in the draft, and one of the DE's we were hoping we might get. They are pretty good at SLB as they have two very talented backers (Dragos & Money). However, even though they run the 3-4 they start a much weaker SILB (Riddock)rather than the backup SLB Money. It's a shame too, because Money has the potential to max out jsut about every category. As a result, they are soft at the ILB spots. If we can get past NT Quesnel (which is a BIG if) we should be able to get some good yardage. LCB Norm Carr is the class of the secondary. However, the rest of the CB's are roster fillers at BEST! SS McKnight is a very good strong safety and can make the big pick when needed. However, he is overshadowed by FS Shannon Regalia. Regalia does everything well. __________________ Ability is what you're capable of doing. Motivation determines what you do. Attitude determines how well you do it. - Lou Holtz Last edited by Buzzbee : 10-14-2003 at 06:51 AM.

10-14-2003, 06:58 AM	#408
Buzzbee College Starter Join Date: Jun 2002	I updated the last two scouting reports since they were somewhat skimpy. Hawk Mountain report didn't change much at all. Sacremento was a significant update. The only additional thing to look for as we sim those games will be key injuries. __________________ Ability is what you're capable of doing. Motivation determines what you do. Attitude determines how well you do it. - Lou Holtz Last edited by Buzzbee : 10-14-2003 at 06:58 AM.

10-14-2003, 07:55 AM	#411
Fritz Lethargic Hooligan Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: hello kitty found my wallet at a big tent revival and returned it with all the cash missing	damn it, the play calling interface was set to go. __________________ donkey, donkey, walk a little faster

10-14-2003, 08:39 AM	#412
Fritz Lethargic Hooligan Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: hello kitty found my wallet at a big tent revival and returned it with all the cash missing	managing the preseason since the D roster was not set, I decided to employ a "hide the stars" approach to preseason. We have a lot of young players on the field this year. I have also made some strong changes to the gameplan. The run % is up, and the pass distance is much further out. Lets see where they play their S. G1: Kitty Hawk 20 at Wheeling 17 Kowalski carried 15 times, but that is fine because Strong ran 13 for 110 yards. Ellison had 107 yards through the air. Mills was the star of the D. Duran is out for 4. G2: Pensacola 24 at Kitty Hawk 31 Rapp had a 4 sack game. Rookie C Alston had 4 KRBs. Manning, Mills, Plank - all out G3: Kitty Hawk 25 at Lake Erie 35 G4: Fort Knox 35 at Kitty Hawk 29 __________________ donkey, donkey, walk a little faster

10-14-2003, 08:41 AM	#413
Fritz Lethargic Hooligan Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: hello kitty found my wallet at a big tent revival and returned it with all the cash missing	file 1 __________________ donkey, donkey, walk a little faster

10-14-2003, 08:42 AM	#414
Fritz Lethargic Hooligan Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: hello kitty found my wallet at a big tent revival and returned it with all the cash missing	file 2 __________________ donkey, donkey, walk a little faster

10-14-2003, 10:32 AM	#416
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	From: Personnel Department Injury Report: Rondell Kowalski, FB - Knee Bursitis, Probable, full strength in about 1 week. Bryan Manning, LDE - Hyperextended Knee, Probable, full strength in about 1 week. J.J. Mills, SLB - Hyperextended Knee, Questionable, full strength in about 2 weeks. Oscar Plank, MLB - Broken Foot, Doubtful, full strength in about 4 weeks. Sam Upshaw, LDE - Concussion, Probable, full strength in about 1 week. Kerry Satterlee, MLB - Strained Quadriceps Muscle, Probable, full strength in about 3 weeks.

10-14-2003, 10:37 AM	#417
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Did people want me to sim the first four games tonight, or Fritz to sim them today? If so, I would like the questionable and doubtful LBs to sit in favor of their backups. (I don't have the file in front of me, so I am not sure who.) Since it looks like most of the adjustments have to be on D, it may make sense for me to sim tonight., but I am cool with whatever. Fritz can send me any O gameplan changes based on the scouting reports.

10-14-2003, 10:41 AM	#418
Buzzbee College Starter Join Date: Jun 2002	Thanks QS. At least none of them are serious. __________________ Ability is what you're capable of doing. Motivation determines what you do. Attitude determines how well you do it. - Lou Holtz

10-14-2003, 10:53 AM	#419
Fritz Lethargic Hooligan Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: hello kitty found my wallet at a big tent revival and returned it with all the cash missing	I made my gameplan changes. I just need to forward the depth chart after we make cuts. For the interested observer, the O plan is a bit extreme. Those last two losses are all my fault. I was trying my best to cripple Kowalski and Diana. As for simming, I can not spend any more time with game open today. __________________ donkey, donkey, walk a little faster

10-14-2003, 10:54 AM	#420
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	A few notes from the preseason: Some good running from RB Rob Strong, our forgotten man: Code: Rushing Att Yards Avg Long TD 24 Strong 13 110 8.4 27 1 24 Strong 9 45 5.0 12 0 24 Strong 5 6 1.2 3 0 24 Strong 7 23 3.2 12 0 That's 34 carries for 184 yards - a solid 5.4 ypc average. This guy is a pretty solid reserve - especialy bried at #3 on the real depth chart. What we saw from QB2 Ethan Francis wasn't all that encouraging... but I'm not panicked quite yet. He looks good on paper - and in a real game situation, surrounded by our real weapons, he should have a better shot - if it comes to that. QB3 Tittle actually loked okay in limited duty - but its' tough to see him developing much beyond where he is - a #3 caliber guy. LB Percy Rapp, presumably playing in the "Sam" slot and blitzing a good deal, had a four-sack game... but then put up marginal stans in each other game. Have to think that there is some promise for that spot - as Middleton is a far better pass rusher than Rapp seems to be.

10-14-2003, 11:02 AM	#422
Fritz Lethargic Hooligan Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: hello kitty found my wallet at a big tent revival and returned it with all the cash missing	Based on your conversion earlier this season, I think our #2 HB ought to be moved to WR. Only if we are going to keep him around though. __________________ donkey, donkey, walk a little faster Last edited by Fritz : 10-14-2003 at 11:02 AM.

10-14-2003, 01:01 PM	#430
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Good point, as long as the long ball is long enough and returns are held to a minimum. Al Davis would be proud....

10-14-2003, 02:11 PM	#432
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	So......who are our cuts, anyway?

10-14-2003, 02:11 PM	#433
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	Are we running games tonight?

10-14-2003, 03:06 PM	#435
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	I can probably run the first four games tonight. I will trust the group judgment as to cuts. If someone can make cuts today and post the new file, I will download it tonight play four games.

10-14-2003, 04:23 PM	#436
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	Based on the expressed preferences of our coordinators and staff, here is a stab at the cut-down list: RB Dennis Rivers FB Peter Robinson WR Eric Mixon WR Nolan Irwin G Karl Preston LB Kerry Satterlee S Grady Yamashita I realize we drafted WR Nolan Irwin, but I just don't see how he competes for a job on this team. He'd be, at best, our 6th WR... with precious little chance to get any higher up than that, assuming Fritz can indeed get something our of his "trust me" pick Jefferson. I don't know what led to Irwin being drafted, but I see him as completely superfluous. That might cut a little deeper than the OC would like - he may find it desirable to keep 3 FBs and 3 TEs (I rarely keep 3 of either one in my own careers), but I felt like cutting FB Robinson hurt the team less that cutting another linebacker, for instance, or one of our corners. There's a rough draft - I defer tot he coordinators, though, if they can add/subtract from it.

10-14-2003, 08:53 PM	#437
Buzzbee College Starter Join Date: Jun 2002	If I were making cuts, here are the players I'd cut: 1st I'd switch Eric Mixon back to RB, his natural postion. Then cut: RB Dennis Rivers SE Nolan Irwin RG Irv Wallace RG Karl Preston SILB Kurt Moe MLB Kerry Satterlee SS Grady Yamashita RG Jerry Johnson makes RG Irv Wallace expendable. Also, Wallace is in the last year of his contract, with no bonus. Johnson has 3 years left with $550,000 in bonus each year. __________________ Ability is what you're capable of doing. Motivation determines what you do. Attitude determines how well you do it. - Lou Holtz

10-14-2003, 09:08 PM	#438
Buzzbee College Starter Join Date: Jun 2002	There is one small problem. I was going through releasing players to see who I would suggest making inactive. When I got to SILB Kerry Satterlee I was not able to release him. Apparently the game won't let us release injured players. Therefore we can't cut Satterlee until he is healty (3 weeks). This means that we will have to cut a healthy player that we otherwise wouldn't cut so that we can trim the roster to 53. My suggestion if we really do want to cut Satterlee is cut either Kendrick Ellison or Chad Jefferson for the three week period and then if they are available when Satterlee is able to be released, pick Ellison or Jefferson back up. __________________ Ability is what you're capable of doing. Motivation determines what you do. Attitude determines how well you do it. - Lou Holtz

10-14-2003, 10:12 PM	#440
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	I see Fritz is online. I am making cuts now based on B & Q's recs. Do you need to change your depth chart tomorrow before I sim?

10-14-2003, 10:18 PM	#441
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	What about DE Geoff Emerson? How do our numbers look at DE, and if they would be ok would he be deemed expendable? Or does he factor into the D plans? I think they would be mad at us forever if we cut them, at least that's what I've found. Can we put Satterlee on IR, and then cut him when he gets healthy? Can you cut guys from IR? __________________ null

10-14-2003, 10:38 PM	#443
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	I did see the Emerson thing and I did cut him. I did not even think of IR. That would have saved us a roster spot.

10-14-2003, 10:45 PM	#444
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Mazatlan (19) at Kitty Hawk (34) I geared toward stopping the pass, and they still passed for almost 400 yards. We also only got one sack and one interception. Special Teams did well. Duran had 3 kick returns for 106 yards, and McNeil had 2 kick returns for 86 yards. Finley and Harden were a perfect 1-2 punch on offense--Finley had 14 rushes for 56 yards. Harden had 13 rushes for 76 yards. Sparks was 11-25 for 197 yards--a product of the new downfield throwing system, no doubt. Song still managed 100 yards receiving exactally. Daniels may be poised for a DPOY year. 10 tackles, 3 assists, and one sack. Brian Manning is OUT with a knee injury--I think he took it too literally when we told him that he would have to replace Martin on our D.

10-14-2003, 10:52 PM	#445
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	I picked up C.J. Johnstone off the street to give us 3 atcive DEs. I don't know if that is a technical violation of our rules or not, but he sucks, so I did not do it for any competitive advantage. He has an affinity with Littlejohn and low leadership (and we will probably cut him anyway when we can).

10-14-2003, 10:59 PM	#446
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Kitty Hawk (17) at Louisville (24) Who let the dogs out? There were nine sacks total in this game. They got 4; we picked up 5. Duran had an interception return for a touchdown. Sparks threw 3 picks, and both Finley and Harden were grounded. Our D was set to stop the pass, and their #1 back ran for over 100 yards on only 15 carries. I am somewhat distressed because we gave up a lot of yards through the air again (255). I have been playing a pretty pass heavy D, but teams are still passing all over us.

10-14-2003, 11:07 PM	#447
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Hawk Mountain (19) at Kitty Hawk (17) We lost again. Finley and Sparks did well when they got the ball, but only had 23 rushes between them. They killed us with pin pricks--four field goals. Longfellow (their RB) carried the rock 26 times for 102 yards. His longest carry was 11 yards. An Eddie George day at the park, and enough to control the clock and keep the ball out of our hands. Weiley is out.

10-14-2003, 11:15 PM	#448
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Sacramento (27) at Kitty Hawk (21) These are not as fun to write when we lose. Their QB had a field day--60% passing, over 300 yards, and 4 touchdowns. We tried to establish the run--44 rushes total, but only for 3.2 YPC. We were 8 for 20 on third down, so we seemed to face a lot of third downs (though we did convert almost 1/2 of them, so that is a positive and a negative). We actually started this game with a two TD lead. I am going to tweak the D a bit before I send the file back. Tomorrow, people who can access the files may want to do a post-mortem of the team and see what we can do.

10-14-2003, 11:24 PM	#449
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	File 1 (Before you point it out to me--dumb ass me messed up with Mills after he came back from injury. He has not been playing. My bad in a big way.)

10-14-2003, 11:25 PM	#450
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	#2

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