FOFC TV and Movie Draft Thread - Karl only picks busts

[DeToxRox]

9.5 - The White House explodes in Independence Day [Explosion Death]

Ill update the list soon. Been busy all weekend.

[larrymcg421]

9.6 Best Suicide - Warden Norton, "His Judgment Cometh and that Right Soon", The Shawshank Redemption



Start at 8:30...

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

9.5 - The White House explodes in Independence Day [Explosion Death]

Ill update the list soon. Been busy all weekend.

I'm not in this draft, so not sure if it's my place to say, but...is this draft supposed to include "building" deaths? I mean, it's a cool explosion, and an importnat building, and, yeah, there were probably people inside, but not sure you should allow that.

Edited: to remove potential pick mentioned, although I'll argue same circumstance as above, and really shouldn't be allowed, IMO.

[larrymcg421]

That's actually a potential pick. Any chance you could edit that out?

[Logan]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

9.6 Best Suicide - Warden Norton, "His Judgment Cometh and that Right Soon", The Shawshank Redemption



Start at 8:30...

Awesome pick. "I'd like to think that the last thing that went through his head...other than that bullet...was to wonder how the hell Andy Dufresne ever got the best of him."

[Crim]

Originally Posted by Logan

Awesome pick. "I'd like to think that the last thing that went through his head...other than that bullet...was to wonder how the hell Andy Dufresne ever got the best of him."

Yep, really good pick for this category.

Got me thinking, about how folks will be scoring.

I see where the picks can all kind of be classed into two sets: A) scenes that are great based on watching the scene (unique method, particularly great acting, special effects, etc.); and B) scenes which are only great if you've watched the movie. Ideally, of course, I'm sure most are trying to be both, but here's a situation where two scenes from Shawshank fit into different categories, for me.

The first one that was picked, was definitely a 2nd category pick, I think. Having watched the movie, that whole scene is very poignant and emotional, and makes the pick really good. But for someone who's never seen the movie, I wonder if it just looked like some random old guy who can't take life on the outside and hangs himself.

The warden gunshot suicide, on the other hand, I'd expect would score higher for those who've not seen the movie, because the importance of the suicide was explained succinctly in the clip, and because of the tension in the scene itself.

Personally, for this reason, I'm weighting the 2nd clip slightly ahead of the 1st.

[lordscarlet]

Sorry guys, Sundays are not good for me. Let me loko through my potentials.

[lordscarlet]

I'm having trouble finding a clip. I'll try to look mor tomorrow I guess.

9.7 Best Death in a Drama - Girl in the Red Jacket, Schindler's List

[Greyroofoo]

Originally Posted by lordscarlet

I'm having trouble finding a clip. I'll try to look mor tomorrow I guess.

9.7 Best Death in a Drama - Girl in the Red Jacket, Schindler's List

I was wondering when that would be called. One of the top picks for sure.

[ntndeacon]

9.8--Best Hero death--Lucas Jackson--Cool Hand Luke

[Karlifornia]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

9.8--Best Hero death--Lucas Jackson--Cool Hand Luke

I thought about Cool Hand Luke. It definitely made me a fan of Paul Newman.

[Radii]

9.9 - Best Horror Death - Glen Lantz (Johnny Depp) - Nightmare on Elm Street




More noteworthy in retrospect as this was Johnny Depp's feature film debut.

[Karlifornia]

Originally Posted by Radii

9.9 - Best Horror Death - Glen Lantz (Johnny Depp) - Nightmare on Elm Street




More noteworthy in retrospect as this was Johnny Depp's feature film debut.

Great pick.

[JeeberD]

Originally Posted by Radii

9.9 - Best Horror Death - Glen Lantz (Johnny Depp) - Nightmare on Elm Street




More noteworthy in retrospect as this was Johnny Depp's feature film debut.

Wait, what? I thought the scene where he died was the scene where there was a naked mermaid in his waterbed and he wound up getting sucked into it. Of course, I am old and my memory is fading...

Edit: After a second viewing, this might be the same scene but not showing the entire bit...

[Sun Tzu]

Very surprised this one is still on the board.

With their 9th pick in the draft...

9.10 Best Serial Killer - Anton Chigurh ~ No Country For Old Men

[cartman]

Interesting you pick the scene where he doesn't kill someone

[Sun Tzu]

Yeah, but it's cool

[lordscarlet]

Originally Posted by Logan

Awesome pick. "I'd like to think that the last thing that went through his head...other than that bullet...was to wonder how the hell Andy Dufresne ever got the best of him."

Not sure how awesome it can be when a suicide in Shawshank Redemption was already picked in the first round.

[stevew]

I wouldn't classify serial killers and hitmen as the same thing. But that's just my opinion.

[Big Fo]

Such a deep draft. I like the Anton Chigurh and Bridge on the River Kwai picks from the past few pages.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by lordscarlet

Not sure how awesome it can be when a suicide in Shawshank Redemption was already picked in the first round.

Not trying to hate on the Brooks pick, but with value being a consideration, I prefer this one.

[AENeuman]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

9.8--Best Hero death--Lucas Jackson--Cool Hand Luke

Not a criticism of this pick at all... but I'm curious why you chose this as a heroic death.


FYI, this is my favorite movie of all time. I just showed it in my sociology class for deviance (with a huge nod to religion).

[lordscarlet]

Originally Posted by Logan

Not trying to hate on the Brooks pick, but with value being a consideration, I prefer this one.

To me, just going back to the same well devalues it. Since it's allowed, it's allowed and that's find. However, I think others that have at least gone to a different category are getting better value. Most likely I am in the minority and people won't look at that, though. Not that I can think of a whole lot of options for suicide. There is a "repeat" movie that I really want to pick, and some I was tempted to take (like the Depp scene for horror), but I'm attempting to avoid it.

Anyway, it's just crotchety draft-downer lordscarlet spewing his negativity, ignore me.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by lordscarlet

To me, just going back to the same well devalues it. Since it's allowed, it's allowed and that's find. However, I think others that have at least gone to a different category are getting better value. Most likely I am in the minority and people won't look at that, though. Not that I can think of a whole lot of options for suicide. There is a "repeat" movie that I really want to pick, and some I was tempted to take (like the Depp scene for horror), but I'm attempting to avoid it.

Anyway, it's just crotchety draft-downer lordscarlet spewing his negativity, ignore me.

Fair enough, but I also think you can make the argument that even if no one took Norton, the Brooks pick could lose some value when there's another very significant suicide in the same movie.

[ntndeacon]

Originally Posted by AENeuman

Not a criticism of this pick at all... but I'm curious why you chose this as a heroic death.


FYI, this is my favorite movie of all time. I just showed it in my sociology class for deviance (with a huge nod to religion).

A couple of reasons actually. the first is the he isthe hero of the piece. and at one time this slot was for hero deaths. I took it to mean thus. But also, his death could be seen as the culmination of his fight against the tyrrany of the prison system. Even if unintended ,he became something of a martyr to the remaining prisoners....or at least to George Peppard's character.

[Sun Tzu]

Stevew has a point about the serial killer/hitman thing, however I think in Anton's case he was much more of a serial killer than a Hitman in the movie. I can't remember if he was contracted or not, but the way that he killed was not very Hitman like...I think he killed for the enjoyment of it. I wouldn't have used Leon in the serial killer category, because he's more of a Hitman. But Anton, I think he qualifies.

btw I know Leon was used earlier, but I believe it was either as a heroic death or explosion death, not Serial Killer.

[AENeuman]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

But also, his death could be seen as the culmination of his fight against the tyrrany of the prison system. Even if unintended ,he became something of a martyr to the remaining prisoners....or at least to George Peppard's character.

Thanks. I guess making him an unintended (anti) hero puts him along the same line as Camus Stranger.

[lordscarlet]

Originally Posted by Logan

Fair enough, but I also think you can make the argument that even if no one took Norton, the Brooks pick could lose some value when there's another very significant suicide in the same movie.

Fair enough. That's why I stayed away from any light saber battles and other movies with multiple great death scenes (for the most part at least).

[Karlifornia]

9.11 Most Heroic Death- Robert Gould Shaw, Glory

I will post a YouTube clip later.

[lordscarlet]

Was there a decision on a 12th round?

[lordscarlet]

(fwiw I am against adding at the end -- people would have strategized differently if they knew it was there. But I don't care either way, particularly since I'm one of the middle picks. )

[stevew]

Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

Stevew has a point about the serial killer/hitman thing, however I think in Anton's case he was much more of a serial killer than a Hitman in the movie. I can't remember if he was contracted or not, but the way that he killed was not very Hitman like...I think he killed for the enjoyment of it. I wouldn't have used Leon in the serial killer category, because he's more of a Hitman. But Anton, I think he qualifies.

btw I know Leon was used earlier, but I believe it was either as a heroic death or explosion death, not Serial Killer.

I used Leon as an explosion death cause there's no way all the cops he took out at the end were bad guys. Not really herioc, even if the Gary Oldman character was a real piece of shit.

We needed a revenge death category.

[spleen1015]

9.12 - Best Death Television - Ralph Cifaretto (The Sopranos)
Tony and Ralph were partners in a race horse. Ralphie had the stabled burned for the insurance money. He and Tony got into a fist fight over it and the result was Tony pounding Ralph's head into the floor until he was dead. One of the funniest things I have seen on tv is after they took care of the body for disposal, they carried his head around in a bowling ball bag.

10.1 - Best Death Drama - Lt. Col. Matthew Markinson (A Few Good Men)
Markinson was going to testify against Colonel Jessup, proving he ordered the 'Code Red' that resulted in Santiago's death. Instead of turn against Col. Jessup, he felt killing himself was a better idea.

[Radii]

Ralphie's death was far and away my favorite Sopranos death, I like it.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by lordscarlet

Was there a decision on a 12th round?

I hope the answer is no. We're dragging as is.

[lordscarlet]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

I hope the answer is no. We're dragging as is.

Indeed

[stevew]

I move for free for all picks by weds. It is turning into an ordeal. Let's just finish.

[Crim]

Originally Posted by spleen1015

10.1 - Best Death Drama - Lt. Col. Matthew Markinson (A Few Good Men)
Markinson was going to testify against Colonel Jessup, proving he ordered the 'Code Red' that resulted in Santiago's death. Instead of turn against Col. Jessup, he felt killing himself was a better idea.

Gonna lose points for bad category choice, spleen, at least in my opinion.

[spleen1015]

Originally Posted by Crim

Gonna lose points for bad category choice, spleen, at least in my opinion.

At least point, I don't think I stand much of a chance at winning anyway. There have been positive comments towards shitty picks in my eyes.

[stevew]

This sucks mega dicks.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by stevew

This sucks mega dicks.

Yeah, wtf?

[stevew]

12.1. Best death in a FOFC forum draft- Movie draft chokes on a ham sammich and dies.

I can't find a clip but I will check on youtube when I get home.

[Karlifornia]

Sorry, guys. 10.2 Best Explosion Death- Dylan's dad dies, 90210

[Crim]

Originally Posted by stevew

12.1. Best death in a FOFC forum draft- Movie draft chokes on a ham sammich and dies.

I can't find a clip but I will check on youtube when I get home.

I just spit cola. You just cost me one paper towel, jerk.

[Crim]

LOL you bitches just waited 27 hours and 27 minutes for a 90210 clip!?!


Suck on that!!!

[Karlifornia]

Originally Posted by Crim

LOL you bitches just waited 27 hours and 27 minutes for a 90210 clip!?!


Suck on that!!!

Dear Crim,

Your mother sucks cocks in hell.

Sincerely,
Karl

Seriously, though, I deserve to lose. I goofed and forgot about the draft. Please punish me justly. I deserve it.

[larrymcg421]

It's an even worse pick when you consider that Dylan's dad did not die.

[lordscarlet]

Maybe people won't complain next time there is a draft where you get hounded for lists.

[Buccaneer]

It's about who leads the draft that determines its success or failure.

[Sun Tzu]

Jesus christ...

I'll have my pick in the next half hour or so.