NFL WEEK 4! - Page 9

Arles · 10-05-2009, 10:21 PM

It's all moot anyway. Thompson's complete abortion of an offensive line has doomed this team. Guess I better buck up for another season of how dumb GB was not to keep Favre - never mind the complete lack of OL on this team.

RomaGoth · 10-05-2009, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth

Wow, that o-line is about as bad as the Steelers'

I take this back. The GB o-line is much worse than the Steelers'

Karlifornia · 10-05-2009, 10:21 PM

Looks like a safety. Round 1 goes to Favre. ESPN should be just fantastic tomorrow.

TroyF · 10-05-2009, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Sorry I dont agree with this. Make them go the distance and take up that clock. Vikings short yardage this year has been pretty scary until this game.

They had a great punt. The odds were that the ball would go in the end zone and they'd get a net 20 on the change. The odds were overwhelming they'd pick up the first down and eat up 3:00+ off the clock. Again, against winning teams, playing like that will cost you games.

mauchow · 10-05-2009, 10:21 PM

He was down and it's two points instead. *shrug* Kind of a lose-lose but giving the Vikes two points is better than being on the one yard line.

TroyF · 10-05-2009, 10:22 PM

Safety.

sovereignstar · 10-05-2009, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Karlifornia

ESPN should be just fantastic tomorrow.

He just loves the game. He's like a kid out there!

jbergey22 · 10-05-2009, 10:24 PM

Jared Allen for MVP!

mauchow · 10-05-2009, 10:24 PM

Rodgers needs to get rid of the ball in some way or another.. He is holding the ball way too long. The Vikings seemed to have adjusted real well since the first two drives of the game for the Packers. Not sure what happened but I'm sure a lot of it can be accounted for the crazy DL of the Vikes. 3.5 sacks for Jared Allen. Hah.

The Vikings still have some tough games ahead of them but 4-0 is damn nice to see. I was pumped up all day long at work today which of course made my day last forever.

bulletsponge · 10-05-2009, 10:26 PM

BTW thank you KC for giving us Allen for a 1st. the Vikes have spent numerous 1st rounders over the year drafting DE busts, and you give us the best young one in the league keeping us from drafting another. ty

jbergey22 · 10-05-2009, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

They had a great punt. The odds were that the ball would go in the end zone and they'd get a net 20 on the change. The odds were overwhelming they'd pick up the first down and eat up 3:00+ off the clock. Again, against winning teams, playing like that will cost you games.

Well if their defense wasnt playing well Id likely agree. At that point seemed hard to believe Green Bay could score twice in less than 10 min.

Sun Tzu · 10-05-2009, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Radii

Perhaps i should rephrase,you seem sensitive:

"Are you sure you just don't have a very selective memory about taunting penalties since one very recently hurt your team?"

More later as I need to head out for a bit,but there were 15 taunting penalties called last year that i can find, 2 so far this year according to foxsports, but googling the taunting penalty turns up countless articles about the controversy over the rule over the last 15 years, going back to the throat slash gesture in the late 90s. McNabb picking up the giants phone after a run last year led him to go out of bounds on their sideline, googling various teams and taunting turn up lots of stories about fines and instances where taunting was called on every team(one of the panthers rookies picked up a taunting call in the preseason, whoops).

I was hoping I could just find a stat tracking the totals somewhere, but that seems more difficult than expected.

Anyway, taunting has been a huge issue many many different times over the last decade, I was just stunned to see you say you'd only seen it called twice, like it was some new thing that only screws over your team.

I'm not a Viking or a Packer fan. I don't see how this is currently screwing over my team. My team won 35-0 this week. Anyways...I stand by my memory. I hear you that it has happened in games here and there, talked about, etc...but I haven't see it happen much...a least in recent memory.

bulletsponge · 10-05-2009, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Karlifornia

Looks like a safety. Round 1 goes to Favre. ESPN should be just fantastic tomorrow.

theres no way im watching espn tomorow. im a vikings fan but i hate ESPN's circle jerking around Farve

RomaGoth · 10-05-2009, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Karlifornia

Round 1 goes to Favre. ESPN should be just fantastic tomorrow.

The way these idiot announcers are talking, we don't have to wait until tomorrow.

sovereignstar · 10-05-2009, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

BTW thank you KC for giving us Allen for a 1st. the Vikes have spent numerous 1st rounders over the year drafting DE busts, and you give us the best young one in the league keeping us from drafting another. ty

Derrick Alexander, Duane Clemons, Dimitrius Underwood, and Erasmus James for the loss.

BrianD · 10-05-2009, 10:29 PM

The Vikings are a scary team right now. AP wasn't good enough to win a Super Bowl for them last year. Favre won't be good enough to win them a Super Bowl this year. The combination of the two might give them a chance.

jbergey22 · 10-05-2009, 10:34 PM

Ill trade you guys Favre for Rodgers!

Cringer · 10-05-2009, 10:34 PM

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RT @tompelissero: It is getting ugly up here. #Packers and #Vikings fans alike yelling things at Ted Thompson.

from twitter, haha

Sun Tzu · 10-05-2009, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianD

The Vikings are a scary team right now. AP wasn't good enough to win a Super Bowl for them last year. Favre won't be good enough to win them a Super Bowl this year. The combination of the two might give them a chance.

Nah, not even close. The big time teams would crush these guys. The Packers play right into the strength of the Vikes. These guys needed a Kickoff return for a TD and a hail mary with 2 seconds left to beat the 49ers last week. Top tier teams like the Colts, Giants, etc would take them down handily IMO.

bhlloy · 10-05-2009, 10:36 PM

Thank you Vikings defense, pretty decent FF comeback from being 50 down before the late game yesterday (Hines Ward, Antonio Gates and now MIN defense). I feel like I should send a little something to Chad Clifton also.

sovereignstar · 10-05-2009, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Ill trade you guys Favre for Rodgers!

Rosenfels, Jackson, and Ryan Cook for Rodgers

sovereignstar · 10-05-2009, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

Nah, not even close. The big time teams would crush these guys. The Packers play right into the strength of the Vikes. These guys needed a Kickoff return for a TD and a hail mary with 2 seconds left to beat the 49ers last week. Top tier teams like the Colts, Giants, etc would take them down handily IMO.

Oof. It's been over a week already.

jbergey22 · 10-05-2009, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

Nah, not even close. The big time teams would crush these guys. The Packers play right into the strength of the Vikes. These guys needed a Kickoff return for a TD and a hail mary with 2 seconds left to beat the 49ers last week. Top tier teams like the Colts, Giants, etc would take them down handily IMO.

Yeah them rivalry games with great QBs always play into the Vikings strengths.

bulletsponge · 10-05-2009, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar

Derrick Alexander, Duane Clemons, Dimitrius Underwood, and Erasmus James for the loss.

yes, ty for reminding me

Karlifornia · 10-05-2009, 10:40 PM

A guy was wearing a t-shirt that just said:

Brett Favre
Packers Vikings

Sun Tzu · 10-05-2009, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Yeah them rivalry games with great QBs always play into the Vikings strengths.

homer is back...

If I have to hear one more comparison between Favre and Montana I'm going to puke. This guy couldn't hold Montana's jock strap.

mauchow · 10-05-2009, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

Nah, not even close. The big time teams would crush these guys. The Packers play right into the strength of the Vikes. These guys needed a Kickoff return for a TD and a hail mary with 2 seconds left to beat the 49ers last week. Top tier teams like the Colts, Giants, etc would take them down handily IMO.

You talk about big plays being the difference in that game when there was even a bigger play that turned the momentum around big time... a field goal blocked and returned for a touchdown. Seriously, if it weren't for that I doubt that game is close.

Obviously though, the 9ers are a great team and will easily win the West. If Crabtree decides to sign with the 9ers in the next week, maybe he can make a nice impact in the second half of the season and help the Niners big time...but maybe he won't make as big of an impact as he thinks he would.. lol

jbergey22 · 10-05-2009, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

homer is back...

If I have to hear one more comparison between Favre and Montana I'm going to puke. This guy couldn't hold Montana's jock strap.

What the fuck are you talking about?

Sun Tzu · 10-05-2009, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

You talk about big plays being the difference in that game when there was even a bigger play that turned the momentum around big time... a field goal blocked and returned for a touchdown. Seriously, if it weren't for that I doubt that game is close.

The Kickoff returned for TD in the second half was just as big of a momentum turner IMO. The Niners had 1 big/good bounce. The Vikes had two. Even the so called "experts" have mentioned this...albiet under their breathe between choking on Favre's nutsack.

Arles · 10-05-2009, 10:45 PM

Ironically enough, this loss has more than cemented the idea that going with Rodgers was the right call. Now, if GB can just find a decent offensive tackle in the next two weeks ....

M GO BLUE!!! · 10-05-2009, 10:46 PM

I just turned the game on (just got in from work) and saw one hell of a throw by Rodgers.

Has the MNF crew mentioned that Favre used to play for the Packers? Interesting bit of trivia there.

k0ruptr · 10-05-2009, 10:47 PM

Just be glad that John Madden isn't doing this game.

k0ruptr · 10-05-2009, 10:48 PM

Jared Allen~!

4.5 sacks ahahhaa

jbergey22 · 10-05-2009, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by k0ruptr

Just be glad that John Madden isn't doing this game.

Haha!!!

Arles · 10-05-2009, 10:48 PM

jeez, spike it and kick the FG. Is Childress coaching the Packers now?

Young Drachma · 10-05-2009, 10:48 PM

I'd never heard the unabated to the quarterback penalty before. Mostly because I don't watch that many games all the way through, really. Had to google it. Interesting stuff.

Sun Tzu · 10-05-2009, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by k0ruptr

Just be glad that John Madden isn't doing this game.

omg srsly

TroyF · 10-05-2009, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

Nah, not even close. The big time teams would crush these guys. The Packers play right into the strength of the Vikes. These guys needed a Kickoff return for a TD and a hail mary with 2 seconds left to beat the 49ers last week. Top tier teams like the Colts, Giants, etc would take them down handily IMO.

Way to overreact on one game.

The Vikings have a great DL. They have a solid running game. They have a QB who can make plays. They have some dynamic special teams players. They have a shot at going deep in the playoffs.

As for the Niners game, it's true the Vikings needed a last second pass and a kickoff return for the win. It's also true they outgained the Niners by over 100 yards, had more first downs, were 10-20 on third downs and held the Niners to 0-11 on third down, and the Niners had a blocked FG return for a TD (which is far rarer than a KO return for a TD).

The Vikings are a team to be dealt with this year.

bulletsponge · 10-05-2009, 10:50 PM

if only the pack kicked the fg when they had the chance earlier. whenever you dont take the points and fail to score, it bites you in the ass

Arles · 10-05-2009, 10:51 PM

Come on, this is Favre's night. Let him throw deep here, Brad

TroyF · 10-05-2009, 10:51 PM

As that drive ended, Rodgers last completed pass put the score of my game 112.42 to 111.75 my favor. I have Crosby. Three incompletions, a FG for me and a Vikings recovery and I get the win. Whew.

Young Drachma · 10-05-2009, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

theres no way im watching espn tomorow. im a vikings fan but i hate ESPN's circle jerking around Farve

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth

The way these idiot announcers are talking, we don't have to wait until tomorrow.

Yup. I was thinking the same thing. It'll be like a few years ago back when they'd rationalize Vince Young by saying "Vince Young isn't a guy you can measure through stats. He just wins."

Only, worse, because it's Favre. But I hadn't heard that in a while, so I wanted to bring it back.

mauchow · 10-05-2009, 10:51 PM

What a kick for a chance of the recovery.

Radii · 10-05-2009, 10:52 PM

Jared Allen has 34 points in my IDP league tonight

Sun Tzu · 10-05-2009, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

Way to overreact on one game.

The Vikings have a great DL. They have a solid running game. They have a QB who can make plays. They have some dynamic special teams players. They have a shot at going deep in the playoffs.

As for the Niners game, it's true the Vikings needed a last second pass and a kickoff return for the win. It's also true they outgained the Niners by over 100 yards, had more first downs, were 10-20 on third downs and held the Niners to 0-11 on third down, and the Niners had a blocked FG return for a TD (which is far rarer than a KO return for a TD).

The Vikings are a team to be dealt with this year.

True on the yards thing...

The Vikes did have a couple long drives...

jbergey22 · 10-05-2009, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

As that drive ended, Rodgers last completed pass put the score of my game 112.42 to 111.75 my favor. I have Crosby. Three incompletions, a FG for me and a Vikings recovery and I get the win. Whew.

Well done!

Arles · 10-05-2009, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

if only the pack kicked the fg when they had the chance earlier. whenever you dont take the points and fail to score, it bites you in the ass

If their TE can catch a wide open pass in the endzone, it's tied right now. If you are going to go on fourth down - do it consistently and it's not a bad play.

The fact that GB was within an onside kick of potentially tying this game tells me there's no way Brad Childress takes the Vikings anywhere (esp against a good team). They have the talent, but their coach is holding them back.

JediKooter · 10-05-2009, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth

Wow, that o-line is about as bad as the Steelers'

Even when they play the Chargers?

k0ruptr · 10-05-2009, 10:54 PM

good game, although AD didn't do much, I was looking forward to him running for 140 and 3 tds. oh well, guess the Pack had a good game plan in containing him and letting Favre crash and burn. Oh ...Wait... that didn't work out to good for ya did it Green Bay?

lol. It was a good thought at the gameplan, but nope didn't work.

Sun Tzu · 10-05-2009, 10:55 PM

Aparently the players on the Packers special teams forgot that one thing they start teaching you in pee-wee football.

Catch the ball at it's highest point. Nice play by Rice though...or whoever that guy was on the Vikings.

10-05-2009, 10:21 PM	#401
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	It's all moot anyway. Thompson's complete abortion of an offensive line has doomed this team. Guess I better buck up for another season of how dumb GB was not to keep Favre - never mind the complete lack of OL on this team. __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

10-05-2009, 10:21 PM	#403
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	Looks like a safety. Round 1 goes to Favre. ESPN should be just fantastic tomorrow. __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

10-05-2009, 10:40 PM	#425
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	A guy was wearing a t-shirt that just said: Brett Favre Packers Vikings __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

10-05-2009, 10:45 PM	#430
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	Ironically enough, this loss has more than cemented the idea that going with Rodgers was the right call. Now, if GB can just find a decent offensive tackle in the next two weeks .... __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

10-05-2009, 10:47 PM	#432
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	Just be glad that John Madden isn't doing this game. __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

10-05-2009, 10:21 PM	#405
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	He was down and it's two points instead. shrug Kind of a lose-lose but giving the Vikes two points is better than being on the one yard line.

10-05-2009, 10:22 PM	#406
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Safety.

10-05-2009, 10:24 PM	#408
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Jared Allen for MVP!

10-05-2009, 10:24 PM	#409
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Rodgers needs to get rid of the ball in some way or another.. He is holding the ball way too long. The Vikings seemed to have adjusted real well since the first two drives of the game for the Packers. Not sure what happened but I'm sure a lot of it can be accounted for the crazy DL of the Vikes. 3.5 sacks for Jared Allen. Hah. The Vikings still have some tough games ahead of them but 4-0 is damn nice to see. I was pumped up all day long at work today which of course made my day last forever.

10-05-2009, 10:26 PM	#410
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	BTW thank you KC for giving us Allen for a 1st. the Vikes have spent numerous 1st rounders over the year drafting DE busts, and you give us the best young one in the league keeping us from drafting another. ty

10-05-2009, 10:29 PM	#416
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	The Vikings are a scary team right now. AP wasn't good enough to win a Super Bowl for them last year. Favre won't be good enough to win them a Super Bowl this year. The combination of the two might give them a chance.

10-05-2009, 10:34 PM	#417
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Ill trade you guys Favre for Rodgers!

10-05-2009, 10:36 PM	#420
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Thank you Vikings defense, pretty decent FF comeback from being 50 down before the late game yesterday (Hines Ward, Antonio Gates and now MIN defense). I feel like I should send a little something to Chad Clifton also.

10-05-2009, 10:46 PM	#431
M GO BLUE!!! Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005	I just turned the game on (just got in from work) and saw one hell of a throw by Rodgers. Has the MNF crew mentioned that Favre used to play for the Packers? Interesting bit of trivia there.

10-05-2009, 10:48 PM	#433
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	Jared Allen~! 4.5 sacks ahahhaa __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks Last edited by k0ruptr : 10-05-2009 at 10:48 PM.

10-05-2009, 10:48 PM	#435
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	jeez, spike it and kick the FG. Is Childress coaching the Packers now? __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

10-05-2009, 10:48 PM	#436
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	I'd never heard the unabated to the quarterback penalty before. Mostly because I don't watch that many games all the way through, really. Had to google it. Interesting stuff. __________________ Current Dynasty:The Zenith of Professional Basketball Careers (FBPB/FBCB) FBCB / FPB3 Mods

10-05-2009, 10:50 PM	#439
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	if only the pack kicked the fg when they had the chance earlier. whenever you dont take the points and fail to score, it bites you in the ass

10-05-2009, 10:51 PM	#440
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	Come on, this is Favre's night. Let him throw deep here, Brad __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

10-05-2009, 10:51 PM	#441
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	As that drive ended, Rodgers last completed pass put the score of my game 112.42 to 111.75 my favor. I have Crosby. Three incompletions, a FG for me and a Vikings recovery and I get the win. Whew.

10-05-2009, 10:51 PM	#443
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	What a kick for a chance of the recovery.

10-05-2009, 10:52 PM	#444
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Jared Allen has 34 points in my IDP league tonight

10-05-2009, 10:54 PM	#449
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	good game, although AD didn't do much, I was looking forward to him running for 140 and 3 tds. oh well, guess the Pack had a good game plan in containing him and letting Favre crash and burn. Oh ...Wait... that didn't work out to good for ya did it Green Bay? lol. It was a good thought at the gameplan, but nope didn't work. __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

10-05-2009, 10:55 PM	#450
Sun Tzu Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In the thick of it.	Aparently the players on the Packers special teams forgot that one thing they start teaching you in pee-wee football. Catch the ball at it's highest point. Nice play by Rice though...or whoever that guy was on the Vikings. __________________ I'm still here. Don't touch my fucking bacon.

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