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In other news, Howard was just trying to scratch an itch on the tip of his elbow with that move. Come on, anyone woulda done that.
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You must not have turned on the TV or opened your web browser after Game 5 if you think ESPN isn't going to be discussing this. "Was Rondo's foul on Miller a flagrant" was non-freaking stop coverage during the live sportscenters' that they do during the day, and front page story on espn.com for much of the day with the various NBA analysts opinions prominently featured. And holy crap once Bill Simmons weighed in on it it went right back up to the top of the page, with Simmons column MORE prominently displayed than the opinions of the analysts (I don't hate Simmons, I hate ESPN giving a homer of a specific team/city who belongs on Page 2 with the other offbeat content front page billing). I'm quite sure that if I have a lot of work to do during the day tomorrow and have ESPN on in the background I will get to hear no fewer than 10 different people discuss whether he should be suspended. |
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Oh, did Rondo do something with Miller Tuesday? Funny, I didn't see anything on ESPN.
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Different situations. Doesn't ABC have the rights to Game 7? Don't you think they want Rando playing? |
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Does anything ever happen in sports or sports reporting that isn't some massive manipulation or conspiracy to you? I dunno I'd assume they want people consuming their content on ESPN so they'd discuss the big stories of the day. After all this would allow them to hype game 7 incessantly if it is on one of their networks. |
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Yeah..Rondo chucked him. If I was the ref, I would have tossed him after seeing the replay.
But....let's just take the day and brace ourselves for Game 7, shall we?
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You should have stopped at an unrelated story. Turkoglu was not tossed for getting in Dalembert's face. He received a technical. Seeing that he was his second T, THAT is why he was ejected the game.
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05-01-2009, 07:55 AM | #411 |
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Artest and Yao at the postgame press conference :
that was actually pretty damn funny by Ron Ron On saving a ball late in the 4th and going into the stands "Well, i´ve been in the stands before ..." Yao : "but this time at home court" Artest : "one guy offered me a beer, no one threw one at me. I was to take a sip, but there´s too many cameras" Crazy Pills FTW Rondo really had a strange game. Looked pretty riled up and out of whack, flustered on his drives and everything. But still 19 Assists on ZERO Turnovers, that´s pretty good for a PG that looks out of sync ... Should have been ejcted and should be suspended. That wasn´t a basketball play and could have resulted in serious injury for Hinrich. Plus pushing/moving/swinging guys towards the sidelines/stands is pretty much a no-no . I mean, Robert Horry did get 2 games for hipchecking Nash into the scorers table on Nash´s dribble. Yeah, would be kind of less fun if he wouldn´t play, but that´s his fault. Brad Miller was a bad man yesterday, too. That was cold blooded what he did at the FT line and on that 3 and that drive. Especially after he couldn´t get done much offensively, was terrible late in games and then the bloody mouth incident. Impressed the hell out of me. Last edited by whomario : 05-01-2009 at 08:09 AM. |
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How do you think this is done, league memos to referees, or just a wink-wink-nod-nod, sack of money with a dollar sign in a tree stump arrangement? I used to be very suspicious of the NBA, until all of those referees got in trouble for tax fraud. I thought that if they had that ace in their pocket, that the NBA was rigging games, they certainly would have used it with the feds then. I know that Tim Donaghy made allegations about that Kings/Lakers game 6 (just as I thought those tax frauds referees would do, if there was really funny business). Obviously that didn't go anywhere, and Donaghy isn't exactly credible (though I realize that it's the sleazy, non-credible types that usually know the dirt - see Jose Conseco). I mean, the NBA/networks rigging games is a serious, serious allegation. That's life-in-prison type stuff, end of North American professional sports forever type stuff. Do you really think the risk of that is worth the .05 rating jump or whatever a game 7 gets over regular programming? How do you keep the referees/network employees quiet? It just doesn't add up to be as a practical plan for the NBA and the networks to get involved in something that ridiculous. I do though, think the NBA has done an amazing job somehow sweeping under the rug that a referee rigged games and got caught!! How did that not harm the league more? It's always in the back of my mind when I watch the NBA. Last edited by molson : 05-01-2009 at 08:35 AM. |
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First off, games were rigged. A 13-year NBA official was convicted of gambling. He bet on games that he officiated. He passed along information on refs and players to his handlers. Statistical analysis of his games showed a very high probability that those games were fixed. So lets not act like the NBA has not had fixed games before. As for throwing games, I don't think it's a simple "hey make sure the Lakers win on Sunday". They assign officials they know call games certain ways to get the outcome they want. There are certain officials like Joey Crawford who they know doesn't handle home crowds well and calls in favor of the home team (you can look at his statistics on a number of betting sites). He will get assigned to a lot of Game 6's where it benefits the NBA to have the home team win and force a Game 7. Is Joey Crawford cheating? No. Does the league factor in what's in their best interest when assigning refs to games? I believe so. Now there have been a lot of controversial games. The Kings-Lakers game is probably the most used. I've seen that game multiple times and I'm still convinced it was thrown. Whether that came from the NBA or just a crooked official (Donaghy did officiate it) I don't know. I do know that Donaghy did say games were fixed by a few refs who were "company men". I also know that the games that have the most controversial officials all seem to involve the same refs (Salvatore, Bevetta, Crawford, Donaghy, etc). Now most of these refs are rated very poorly throughout the league yet seem to get the most important games every year. I guess I don't understand why you wouldn't want your highest rated officials on the court for the biggest games. Whatever you believe though, I still find the Donaghy story the most underated sports story in decades. Yes it got air play, but it should have been enormous. A 13-year NBA official who was involved in some of the biggest games was caught betting on those games. How is that not Pete Rose times 100? The entire integrity of the NBA just got shot in the face. I felt ESPN didn't go too deep into it because of their relationship with the NBA. The company that has to inform me of ever bowel movement TO makes couldn't research the games he officiated and come up with some statistics? |
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Interesting points. Especially combined with the fact that the NBA has refused, even in light of the Donaghy thing, to make referee evaluation/assignments the responsibility of some independent entity, when that was suggested. But I don't think Donaghy rigging games necessarily equates to "the NBA rigging games". Dongahy had nothing substantial on the NBA to save his own ass. I always assumed with him it was a money thing, but who knows. Certainly, the NBA hasn't done much to quiet the suspicions (though I totally agree with you that it's AMAZING the Donaghy thing didn't get more play). For me, it was a huge deal, even somewhat tainting the Celts' championship last year. Who knows if they didn't get help from crooked refs? Is there any evidence that the NBA goes 7 games more often than the NHL, or MLB? Last edited by molson : 05-01-2009 at 01:34 PM. |
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Robert Horry received 2 games for this:
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Rondo misses with his shot to the face thanks to an official holding him back.
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Chicago and Boston are showing how to put on a good seven game series. Miami and Atlanta could learn a few things from them.
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Pretty freakish summary of the Heat-Hawks series from the Atlanta beat writer's blog
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It's a really odd series. It's too bad the games haven't been closer. I think it would be cool to see a Lebron/Wade second round matchup though I don't think the Heat have a chance. The Hawks on the other hand are an odd team. They seem to step up in the playoffs and are real physical. They also create some tough matchups. If they can beat up on Lebron a little, it could be a real interesting series.
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Boston - Chicago game six was the most watched first round game on cable TV in league history with 5.35 million viewers.
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I was hoping the Hawks would close out tonight. I want no part of D Whistle and the insane amount of cheap fouls he draws.
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Why is everyone concentrating on/being obsessed with that "ellbow" Rondo threw ? Seriously, no way that was an attempt to hit Hinrich with an ellbow.
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Celtics not looking good so far. Bulls up 9-2.
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How about that block by Rose?
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Great play, although it looks like he got part of Scal's hand.
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The Bulls aren't even bothering to defend Scalabrine when he sits on the outside. No one is close to him. He can hit those shots, so they need to pass it to him every single time until they respect him. Otherwise, we're playing 4 on 5 on the offensive end.
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They're playing the fucking Crazy Frog Axel F? Argh
Maybe I'm biased (yes, of course I'm biased), but if I was a Bulls fan, I do not like their body language right now. They're not up for game 7 at the moment. The Celtics are playing inside and just wanting it more
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dola: Anyone who thinks the refs are biased to boston.. look at points in the paint (Boston +20 some odd), and Free Throws (something like Chicago 3 to 1 ratio more)
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Pop Quiz Hotshot Bulls Fans. Was THAT a flagrant? (at least be consistent here, the way they've been calling it, the answers no to me, it's a hard playoff foul, but if you call Rondo's swipe flagrant in Game 5, this one is more obvious.)
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That was Stupid of Rajan
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Big Baby has really come a long way since his little crying fit earlier this season.
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Mostly Bulls fans elsewhere (the ones who are saying Stern and the Celtics are in cahoots, yadda yadda yadda )
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here we go. 4th quarter. we really need to start hitting FT's
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agree with the T on House, but that should be a double T, look at the Bulls Bench screaming invectives at him as he prepares to take the shot
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Ben Gordon is going to shoot the Bulls out of this one.
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Celts have done a nice job of exploiting double teams most of the game. Bulls really have not been able to stop C's much at all.
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Hinrich has balls.
I like balls.
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wow, they give the Bulls a bonus point from the first quarter. Heh.
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And now it's down to a 3 point game
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Boston trying to give the game away but Bulls look like they just don't have any legs left.
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