The Official 2014 NFL Draft Thread - Page 9

Desnudo · 05-08-2014, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

Jags head coach says he would have taken Bortles over Clowney if somehow he fell to #3.

Jaguars confirm Bortles is going to be a bust by being the ones to select him

sabotai · 05-08-2014, 08:45 PM

I like that STL went OL and DL. Gotta win in the trenches.

Thomkal · 05-08-2014, 08:45 PM

wow Mayock heads up with the call on Fuller saying the head coach likes Virginia Tech players.

stevew · 05-08-2014, 08:45 PM

Fuck the Steelers "brain trust"

Warhammer · 05-08-2014, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

The Rams have had a great start IMO.

I'm not sold on the Donald pick, but it depends on what they get later. I would have rather seen Dennard there, but provided they get CB/S in the 2nd round, they've done well.

Julio Riddols · 05-08-2014, 08:46 PM

Keep on falling Shazier..

Solecismic · 05-08-2014, 08:46 PM

Dennard here?

Thomkal · 05-08-2014, 08:47 PM

damn Cards liked Shazier

Julio Riddols · 05-08-2014, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Solecismic

Every year, I think they draft well. And yet they're still right up there with Cleveland and Detroit when it comes to lousy the last several years.

If it were me, I'd say Bradford is never going to be good and I would have taken Manziel. But they paid so much for Bradford and they seem to want to sink or swim with him.

I think Bradford has had a raw deal for a lot of his career, a similar situation to what happened to Alex Smith. He had different coaches for his first several seasons and very little talent around him, yet he still has produced decently when healthy. I feel the same about Locker except Locker had a bit more talent around him IMO. Both guys have shown promise but just can't seem to stay on the field.

Julio Riddols · 05-08-2014, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

Keep on falling Shazier..

FUUUUHHHHH

bulletsponge · 05-08-2014, 08:48 PM

if Dallas takes Manziel, ESPN will go into meltdown

Vince, Pt. II · 05-08-2014, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Solecismic

Every year, I think they draft well. And yet they're still right up there with Cleveland and Detroit when it comes to lousy the last several years.

If it were me, I'd say Bradford is never going to be good and I would have taken Manziel. But they paid so much for Bradford and they seem to want to sink or swim with him.

I have to keep reminding myself that they've been pretty awful for the last few years, because I'm with you in the thinking they draft well boat.

Desnudo · 05-08-2014, 08:49 PM

Come on Johnny

Solecismic · 05-08-2014, 08:49 PM

I don't agree that Bradford has produced well. I think he's one of those guys who makes his receivers look bad.

Dallas has to go defense here. Manziel would be a luxury pick they can't afford. They need a safety.

cuervo72 · 05-08-2014, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Scarecrow

My dream of seeing Ha-Ha and/or Pryor available at 23 just to watch Andy Reid do cartwheels to the podium is looking more and more like a possibility.

Was kinda hoping for Ha Ha in Philly...

MizzouRah · 05-08-2014, 08:50 PM

Rams first pick.. yes.. 2nd pick.. I wanted Dennard..

Julio Riddols · 05-08-2014, 08:51 PM

Lets also not forget the Rams are in an absolute hell as far as divisions go. They'd probably be favorites to win the NFC East, AFC South or AFC North.

cartman · 05-08-2014, 08:51 PM

Dallas is trying to trade down

Matthean · 05-08-2014, 08:52 PM

I think Browns grab Manziel at 26.

sabotai · 05-08-2014, 08:52 PM

Is this a weak year for running backs or do NFL GMs just not value them like they used to? (or both?)

cuervo72 · 05-08-2014, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

wow Mayock heads up with the call on Fuller saying the head coach likes Virginia Tech players.

Mayock has been on tonight.

Lathum · 05-08-2014, 08:52 PM

Jesus Gruden, is he actually advocating the Cowboys taking Manziel?

EagleFan · 05-08-2014, 08:53 PM

Pick him Dallas, the rest of the NFC East loves your defense...

Solecismic · 05-08-2014, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

Is this a weak year for running backs or do NFL GMs just not value them like they used to? (or both?)

Both.

BillJasper · 05-08-2014, 08:53 PM

If he falls past Dallas, I don't see anyone left in the 1st round that drafts Manziel unless someone trades back up.

Thomkal · 05-08-2014, 08:53 PM

ah too bad Manzell and all us Dallas haters

Lathum · 05-08-2014, 08:53 PM

So they don't go defense or Manziel

cartman · 05-08-2014, 08:53 PM

Offensive Tackle? With all of the holes on defense? Are you kidding me?

JonInMiddleGA · 05-08-2014, 08:54 PM

Well that oughta help the Cowboys defense

Warhammer · 05-08-2014, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Solecismic

I don't agree that Bradford has produced well. I think he's one of those guys who makes his receivers look bad.

Dallas has to go defense here. Manziel would be a luxury pick they can't afford. They need a safety.

The Rams were completely devoid of good young talent, outside of SJax, when Bradford was drafted. The receivers that were let go from the team after he arrived have not done anything of note elsewhere. He made Amendola look better than he is.

Also, one of the issues they have is an inept offensive coordinator, which does not help things. Bradford should get one more year, if he doesn't get it done, you move on.

BillJasper · 05-08-2014, 08:54 PM

I wanted Martin. But I can see value for the Cowboys with a QB that has a bad back.

stevew · 05-08-2014, 08:54 PM

I'm sure the Steelers stud defense will generate enough pressure to keep their shitty defensive backs from being exposed.

bhlloy · 05-08-2014, 08:54 PM

First of many sad Johnny Football shots

Scarecrow · 05-08-2014, 08:54 PM

Maybe Jerry Jones will get Johnny Football at #47...

Solecismic · 05-08-2014, 08:55 PM

Huh. I guess it's a value pick. He'll definitely start, and he's a first-round talent.

Izulde · 05-08-2014, 08:55 PM

Damn. Wanted Z MMartin in Miami

Thomkal · 05-08-2014, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Jesus Gruden, is he actually advocating the Cowboys taking Manziel?

I think Gruden will leave ESPN and go to whatever team gets Manzell just so he can coach him

bronconick · 05-08-2014, 08:55 PM

Thank God. Would've been a nightmare

Scarecrow · 05-08-2014, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Izulde

Damn. Wanted Z MMartin in Miami

Miami...OLineman...Martin....

Julio Riddols · 05-08-2014, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Scarecrow

Miami...OLineman...Martin....

My thoughts as well, heh.

Matthean · 05-08-2014, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

If he falls past Dallas, I don't see anyone left in the 1st round that drafts Manziel unless someone trades back up.

Cleveland and Arizona. That's it.

Izulde · 05-08-2014, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

Is this a weak year for running backs or do NFL GMs just not value them like they used to? (or both?)

RBs have lower value due to dominance of passing game, shorter careers, and ease of finding serviceable guys cheap.

miked · 05-08-2014, 08:57 PM

I don't see why everyone thinks Manziel is so good. I watched games and saw a guy chucking up lots of jump balls and crappy throws across the middle. I think there may be 5+ QBs that might be better.

BillJasper · 05-08-2014, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Izulde

Damn. Wanted Z MMartin in Miami

Same here. Maybe Miami will draft Manziel? Seems like the QB will be on the run quite a bit this year...

Julio Riddols · 05-08-2014, 08:58 PM

So Martin probably replaces that shitty G they took from Cinci.

Solecismic · 05-08-2014, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Warhammer

The Rams were completely devoid of good young talent, outside of SJax, when Bradford was drafted. The receivers that were let go from the team after he arrived have not done anything of note elsewhere. He made Amendola look better than he is.

Also, one of the issues they have is an inept offensive coordinator, which does not help things. Bradford should get one more year, if he doesn't get it done, you move on.

This is the optimistic look. I can't say you're wrong. I think a quarterback worthy of the number-one pick has to almost force a team to pass more effectively. The numbers really are terrible for Bradford.

Desnudo · 05-08-2014, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

If he falls past Dallas, I don't see anyone left in the 1st round that drafts Manziel unless someone trades back up.

The Patriots had both him and Bridgewater in for visits. It depends on who else is left, but not out of the realm of possibility.

Solecismic · 05-08-2014, 09:00 PM

Here's where the Ravens' medical staff either earned its keep or did not.

BillJasper · 05-08-2014, 09:01 PM

CJ Mosley to the Ravens.

Julio Riddols · 05-08-2014, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Desnudo

The Patriots had both him and Bridgewater in for visits. It depends on who else is left, but not out of the realm of possibility.

I think if the Pats go QB, then that means they have a deal in place for Mallett.

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Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	Lets also not forget the Rams are in an absolute hell as far as divisions go. They'd probably be favorites to win the NFC East, AFC South or AFC North. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

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cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Dallas is trying to trade down __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

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sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	I like that STL went OL and DL. Gotta win in the trenches.

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Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	wow Mayock heads up with the call on Fuller saying the head coach likes Virginia Tech players.

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stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Fuck the Steelers "brain trust"

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Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	Dennard here?

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Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	damn Cards liked Shazier

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Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	Come on Johnny

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Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	I don't agree that Bradford has produced well. I think he's one of those guys who makes his receivers look bad. Dallas has to go defense here. Manziel would be a luxury pick they can't afford. They need a safety.

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MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Rams first pick.. yes.. 2nd pick.. I wanted Dennard..

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sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Is this a weak year for running backs or do NFL GMs just not value them like they used to? (or both?) Last edited by sabotai : 05-08-2014 at 08:52 PM.

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Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Jesus Gruden, is he actually advocating the Cowboys taking Manziel?

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BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	If he falls past Dallas, I don't see anyone left in the 1st round that drafts Manziel unless someone trades back up. __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it.

05-08-2014, 08:53 PM	#426
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	ah too bad Manzell and all us Dallas haters

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Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	So they don't go defense or Manziel

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cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Offensive Tackle? With all of the holes on defense? Are you kidding me? __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

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BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	I wanted Martin. But I can see value for the Cowboys with a QB that has a bad back. __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it.

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stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I'm sure the Steelers stud defense will generate enough pressure to keep their shitty defensive backs from being exposed.

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bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	First of many sad Johnny Football shots

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Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	Huh. I guess it's a value pick. He'll definitely start, and he's a first-round talent.

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bronconick College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI	Thank God. Would've been a nightmare

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miked College Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The Dirty	I don't see why everyone thinks Manziel is so good. I watched games and saw a guy chucking up lots of jump balls and crappy throws across the middle. I think there may be 5+ QBs that might be better. __________________ Commish of the United Baseball League (OOTP 6.5)

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Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	So Martin probably replaces that shitty G they took from Cinci. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

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BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	CJ Mosley to the Ravens. __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it.

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