THE OFFICIAL SURVIVOR: MICRONESIA THREAD!!! (SPOILERS POSSIBLE, NOT WELCOMED!)

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Yeah, Chet is a waste of space, but Joel seemed such as ass, I was glad to see Jeff knock him down a notch. Chet only lasted that long because he was zero threat to anybody, but Joel was an idiot. We're supposed to be impressed you knocked Chet's head into a tree and then got voted out? Why do these guys think being some stud is how you win Survivor? Do they even watch the show?

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that Joel is testosterone-fueled outside of the game as well. I don't think he decided to play the game that way.......that's just how he is.

[Maple Leafs]

It's hard to believe that Amanda could get a second chance in front of a jury, and blow it again with her weepy "poor me" routine.

I guess the only defence is that it sounds like she played her two games almost back-to-back. She probably hadn't seen her first jury performance and realized how awful it was.

[stevew]

I always hate the overly long montage where they remember all the contestants, and send their torch out to sea.

[Kodos]

My wife always complains about that too. Often, we fast forward through it, although we didn't last night.

I think in Amanda's defense, the game does obviously take a mental toll on you. Doing it almost back-to-back has to be rough -- especially if you have ovaries.

[Autumn]

I thought it was crazy that Amanda started having her breakdown right then, though, 24 hours before she had a great shot at winning a million dollars. She should have been ecstatic. I don't think she was faking, crying in the last tribal council, but it don't go over well with the jury, I don't think.

[Kodos]

Yeah. She definitely choked again. It's a shame. She's much more likable than Parvati.

[BrianD]

Originally Posted by Kodos

Yeah. She definitely choked again. It's a shame. She's much more likable than Parvati.

I actually liked Parvati more than Amanda. I think it has something to do with self confidence and self awareness. Parvati knows who she is and can still be fun and happy while manipulating people. Amanda is trying so hard to be liked and is so much in her own head that she doesn't see how others perceive her...and she can't see things from other's perspectives.

The whole breakdown and fight with Cirie about Cirie always being at the bottom of the alliance was all due to the fact that Amanda can't see through Cirie's eyes. I don't think anyone watching the show disagreed with Cirie always being at the bottom of the alliance. The only way Amanda's surprise would be justified is if the editing showed us something completely different from what was actually going on.

Amanda crying at the F3 really was a blow to her. None of the jury liked her calling her position "both a blessing and a curse". There were 5 people on the jury that would have given just about anything to be in her spot. This is another place where she could have owned her game and scored points with the jury. She fought hard and well to be in that position. She didn't need to gloat just then, but she should have at least owned her game.

[Raiders Army]

FWIW, this season there wasn't anyone in the final four that I didn't want to win. I also didn't have a person that I wanted to win as well.

All in all, it was a great season and the ending was somewhat anti-climatic.

[Thomkal]

ah poor Amanda, undone in the Final Tribal again. She was better at it this time at least, less mopey and more challenging. Her comments to Cirie were what killed her chances I think. And she really needed to attack Parvati more no matter how much she likes her.

And speaking of Cirie, I'm disappointed she do more in talking to Amanda to get herself in the Final Two, at least from what they showed us. She should have jumped on the fact that Parvati had practially 3 votes lined up already in Alexis, Natalie, and James and then tell her she too would vote for Parvati over her if she sent her to the jury. She could have even mentioned how bad she was in challenges even though that would be used against her. Amanda was probably remembering how Todd manipulaed the jury though and didn't want a repeat performance.

I don't know how she would have done in the vote against Amanda though, wish Jeff had asked for a vote count there. She would have had to convince the jury that she was the mastermind behind the majority if not all of the blindsides, and should be rewarded for outwitting them. Not sure it would have worked or only make them more pissed at her though. I felt really badly for her after that final immunity challenge and her goodbye speech after she was voted out. She remains one of my favorite players.

[BrianD]

I think Amanda was dead either way in the finals. If Parvati outdid Amanda against the jury, imagine how much better Cirie would have done. The real challenge would have been having Parvati and Cirie in the finals. They both played a social game and a strategic game. It would have been tough to pick a winner between them.

[Jas_lov]

Parvati vs. Cirie would have been interesting, but there was a lot of personal voting this year so I think Alexis and Natalie's votes were guaranteed for Parvati no matter what. I also think Amanda would have voted for Parvati so there's 3. Parvati would have needed one of Eliza, Jason, or Erik to win as Ozzy and James probably vote against Parvati.

A final 3 with Parvati, Amanda, and Cirie might have actually allowed Amanda to win. Amanda had Ozzy and James's votes in the bag and it sounds like she had Erik wrapped up too so there's 3. Parvati had Alexis and Natalie. That just leaves Jason and Eliza. Cirie would have had to sway Erik in her favor to win 3-2-2. Four votes this year- Alexis and Natalie for Parvati, Ozzy and James for Amanda were basically set in stone.

[mauchow]

Ozzy tried convincing the group to vote for Amanda with his tirade against Parvati. My wife thought it was enough to sway the group to give Amanda the million. I told her that there was no way Amanda wins after the Cirie questions.

[Autumn]

I don't think Ozzy helped her out any with his speech. He didn't help Parvati either, but I think it just helped paint Amanda as the new "Flirt" rather than convince anybody about her game.

[LloydLungs]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

Ozzy tried convincing the group to vote for Amanda with his tirade against Parvati. My wife thought it was enough to sway the group to give Amanda the million. I told her that there was no way Amanda wins after the Cirie questions.

I think (hope anyway) that Survivor has now matured beyond the point where Ozzy's infantile Lex-ish ranting represents the prevailing wisdom of the jury. His/her melodramatic, unnatural-sounding squawking seemed like it was out of place, and would have fit in better about 10 seasons ago. Nothing he said made a lick of sense. "You put a price tag... on our friendship... on me... a human being..." Whatever, idiot. GAME.

This is the second season in a row a hard-core player with an over-the-top playing style won the jury vote. Even though Parvati appears to be an obnoxious person, I say kudos.

[Autumn]

Yeah, Ozzy seemed a bit confused about the nature of the game. Obviously he was completely blinded by his feelings for Amanda, as he said. I mean, what was he planning to do when his alliance got to the final five? Vote himself out? Give me a break.

[saldana]

i was hoping for the show of hands from the jury members for who would have voted for cirie if amanda had gone the other way...i honestly wonder if amanda had any chance of winning.

[Maple Leafs]

Originally Posted by LloydLungs

I think (hope anyway) that Survivor has now matured beyond the point where Ozzy's infantile Lex-ish ranting represents the prevailing wisdom of the jury. His/her melodramatic, unnatural-sounding squawking seemed like it was out of place, and would have fit in better about 10 seasons ago. Nothing he said made a lick of sense. "You put a price tag... on our friendship... on me... a human being..." Whatever, idiot. GAME.

I admit that I forgot that Ozzie and Parvarti were on the same season, so they may actually have become good friends. Still, his question made no sense. "You put a price tag on me... you said that's how much it's worth". Yes, "that" being a million dollars. Nice knowing you, kid.

I still say that somebody needs to shut these jurors up one of these days, as a strategic move. Imagine if after Natalie's ridiculous bedroom questions one of the girls had said "That's question is stupid and insulting. You're a moron. Sit down." Are you telling me they wouldn't have instantly won the other seven votes?

[korme]

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Ozzie - Went from one notch below Jack Bauer to completely emasculated

Argh.

LOL

[korme]

Oh, and btw, hottest Survivor was Alexis fo sho

[LloydLungs]

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

I admit that I forgot that Ozzie and Parvarti were on the same season, so they may actually have become good friends.

Parvati actually voted for Ozzy to win Cook Islands when the roles were reversed and she was a juror. You'd think that would have been enough -- but no, apparently Lex, er, Ozzy wanted her to step aside and let him win this season because they're friends. Whatever, Oz-Man. Idiot. That said, still loved his reunion joke.

[EagleFan]

I would have liked to see a tie though, just to see how they would have handled it. Maybe a revote like they norally do during the game (the difference being now they are voting after having watched the show), or an impromptu challenge live.

[LloydLungs]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

I would have liked to see a tie though, just to see how they would have handled it. Maybe a revote like they norally do during the game (the difference being now they are voting after having watched the show), or an impromptu challenge live.

I'm GUESSING they would settle it on location, though I'm really not sure how. But I think you'd have to settle it out there, because you can't have players voting after having seen the show. Then you're getting into the whole mess of the show's editors affecting who wins. And things like confessionals would then play a huge factor in the voting... which would be a terrible precedent to set, because it would lead to people being cagey and political in their confessionals in future seasons. And you don't want that. Much better TV to make sure people can be honest in their confessionals without fear of repercussions later.

But I really have no idea what they would do. You can't decide the season on a fire challenge.

[Vinatieri for Prez]

What's wrong with it just being a tie and they split the $1 million? That actually seems like the most practical result because I don't know what else they could have done. At the final vote count, Jeff did say if Amanda got the last vote, it would be a tie. He didn't say anything else after that such as what the tiebreaker would be.

However, a good point was raised here. It is very likely Amanda would have won with a final 3. Just her luck that they switched it up on her.

Any guesses when the Parv/Nat sex tape is going to get leaked on the net?

[Kodos]

I figured they would both get a million if it ended in a tie.

[Jas_lov]

Splitting the money would have been really lame, but it's one of few logical solutions. I brought up America voting which people don't seem to be agreeing with. Amanda would have won that. A re-vote makes sense, but is it fair? Someone votes for Amanda one minute and the next minute they switch to Parvati just so everybody can go home. If two people switch, you're back to square 1 and it becomes an even bigger joke.

[LloydLungs]

Originally Posted by Jas_lov

Splitting the money would have been really lame, but it's one of few logical solutions.

Yeah, I suppose you'd really pretty much have to, in a tie in a final 2 situation. I think in a final 3 you could have the person that finished third cast the deciding vote, but for a final 2 maybe you'd just have co-winners. Talk about going out with a whimper though.

[wade moore]

I was a few episodes behind and finally caught up.

A fantastic season. I was rooting for Amanda because I feel she is a good balance of strategy without making complete backstabs. In the end, I don't think she had a chance against either of them and agree with whomever said she was best off with a 3 person final.

[Autumn]

I haven't watched a lot of Survivor before this season. Has anyone ever plotted to split the million with their allies? Or is that explicitly against the rules somehow? I would think it would be a decent strategic choice at times.

[Autumn]

dola

God knows Jason would have fallen for it.

[Kodos]

They are not allowed to share.

[rkmsuf]

Originally Posted by Kodos

They are not allowed to share.

share as far as you know

[Mota]

Amanda should learn the key lesson from interviews when someone asks you about your biggest weaknesses.

You try to be honest but never say anything that is really serious. No one should answer "I'm lazy", or "I like little boys".

When Amanda had to explain why Parvati deserves it more than her, she gave Parvati so much credit for their alliance that it completely devalued her own performance in the game.

Dumb move. All she had to do was take credit for the smart things that she did that game, and kiss a little ass (Cirie anybody?) and she would have won. But once again she talked her way out of the win.

I think that Erik is pretty dumb, but Amanda deserves a piece of that title for being so close to a million bucks twice in a row and not being able to close the deal either time.

[kingfc22]

Finally saw the last few episodes. Erik you are an idiot!!! How do you relinquish immunity that late in the game, especially knowing you will probably win it again and again against the girls.

Another choke job for Amanda. Sad to see.

[law90026]

Originally Posted by Mota

When Amanda had to explain why Parvati deserves it more than her, she gave Parvati so much credit for their alliance that it completely devalued her own performance in the game.

Not just that but it essentially lost her Cirie's vote because it suggested Cirie didn't play as good a game as Parv when they both did more or less the same thing. That there was where Amanda lost the game because if she had answered well ("you both played great but the deciding factor was that I'm a little closer to Parv than you" might have been a better answer or "you were a bigger threat than Parv for the final vote"), I think Cirie votes for Amanda (4-4) and possibly swings Eliza and/or Jason's vote.

Btw, Amanda became ... bigger after the show didn't she? :P

[Jas_lov]

Maybe this interview with Cirie will clear up Amanda's bad answer and how Cirie would have voted. She says here she probably would have voted for Parvati anyway. Who knows what Eliza or Jason do. I don't think Amanda's answers cost her as much as last time. Parvati played the more bold and aggressive game and they rewarded her for it.

Reality TV World: Did Amanda's poor answer -- and Parvati's good answer -- to your question determine your vote or had you already decided to vote for Parvati?

Cirie: You know what? Honestly speaking? If Amanda would have said, "Cirie, I took Parvati because there's no way I would have beat you. I wouldn't have been able to out-talk you with the jury. Plus everybody here knows that Parvati's done a lot and everyone hates Parvati and everybody wants to take Parvati," then maybe it might have been a slight chance. But honestly, no. I probably would have still voted for Parvati.

http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/e...ience-7097.php

[BrianD]

Originally Posted by Jas_lov

Maybe this interview with Cirie will clear up Amanda's bad answer and how Cirie would have voted. She says here she probably would have voted for Parvati anyway. Who knows what Eliza or Jason do. I don't think Amanda's answers cost her as much as last time. Parvati played the more bold and aggressive game and they rewarded her for it.




http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/e...ience-7097.php

Eliza had nothing good to say about Amanda after the show. There was pretty much no way she was giving Amanda a vote.