Maximum Football???

[jbmagic]

Originally Posted by Dutch

Has this thread officially outlived Maximum Football? I don't think there are any hopefuls left over there.

And knowing how Diavd is, he probably thinking his game is at a good point now because no one is posting anymore over there.

[Godzilla Blitz]

Originally Posted by Dutch

Has this thread officially outlived Maximum Football? I don't think there are any hopefuls left over there.

There is some activity in the "Graphics Related" forum over there. They are making helmets and uniforms and such.

Other than that, crickets.

The moment of truth has arrived for them. It's one thing to back the game when you've got sales and you're looking at potential sales, but I'm curious to see how the next patch turns out. I would bet it's either going to be substantially late or lacking promised features. Perhaps both. Summer's coming up, the weather is going to get nice, I doubt David is going to want to stay inside and write code for a game with non-existent sales.

[ice4277]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Oak Park, represent! Heh, lurker and I were just talking about how much we miss Detroit..

I'll trade you for Chicago.

[stevew]

New canadian football season in a few weeks. Since everyone loves that game, and the fact that it is 1000000000 times superior to its inferior US cousin, I expect a rash of new purchases for the game.

Has anyone made a new roster set with Onterrio~! Smith and Ricky Williams yet!

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by ice4277

I'll trade you for Chicago.

Nah, we don't miss it THAT much.

[Antmeister]

Originally Posted by Dutch

Has this thread officially outlived Maximum Football? I don't think there are any hopefuls left over there.

I'll take a bet that this thread alone has more posts than the entire forum for Maximum Football.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by Antmeister

I'll take a bet that this thread alone has more posts than the entire forum for Maximum Football.

And I can guaran-damn-tee you this thread has more limericks and haikus than their entire forum has.

[Julio Riddols]

This is another post about Maximum Football.

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by cartman

And I can guaran-damn-tee you this thread has more limericks and haikus than their entire forum has.

And screenshots. Don't forget screenshots.

[Izulde]

Good thing to know this thread won't need necromancers thanks to Daivid's plans for a 3rd and 4th beta patch.

[Toddzilla]

Originally Posted by Antmeister

I'll take a bet that this thread alone has more posts than the entire forum for Maximum Football.

Ant, you have made more posts in this thread than the entire Matrix MF forum.

[Antmeister]

Serious question now! I don't know anything about Canadian rules football, but is it possible to score just 1 point for the entire game?

Birmingham 45 Memphis 21
Saskatoon 39 Saskatchewan 4
Australia 29 Hamilton 6 (penalty kicked used +2 to Australia)
Mexico City 32 San Antonio 8
Leipzig 3 Winnipeg 59
Edmonton 36 Waterloo 12
Ottawa 43 Calgary 12
Toronto 65 Montreal 1
BC 9 Mobile 51

http://ca.geocities.com/football_can.../Ladder_1.html

http://ca.geocities.com/football_can...s/Default.html

Plus check out the stats to the links that were provided as well. This is apparently an league someone started and this is the output. Wow!

[Johnny Slick]

If you kick a field goal, miss it short, and the other team can't return it out of the end zone, you get a point. This is called a "rouge". Also, in the American game, isn't it possible (if exceedingly rare) to block an extra point attempt and return it for a 1-point score?

[digamma]

Originally Posted by Antmeister

Serious question now! I don't know anything about Canadian rules football, but is it possible to score just 1 point for the entire game?


Plus check out the stats to the links that were provided as well. This is apparently an league someone started and this is the output. Wow!

Check out week 2!

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1140317

"Week 2 is done.Edmonton originally won but lost because the penalty kick program took Montreals score above Edmontons.Montreal sent in a roster update Edmonton did not."

Say what?

[stevew]

Originally Posted by Johnny Slick

If you kick a field goal, miss it short, and the other team can't return it out of the end zone, you get a point. This is called a "rouge". Also, in the American game, isn't it possible (if exceedingly rare) to block an extra point attempt and return it for a 1-point score?

I believe that is only in college football.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by Antmeister

Serious question now! I don't know anything about Canadian rules football, but is it possible to score just 1 point for the entire game?


Plus check out the stats to the links that were provided as well. This is apparently an league someone started and this is the output. Wow!

It's a rouge sighting!

[stevew]

I have 55 posts in this thread.

[stevew]

Dola quad Fecta, looking at it now, that last post would have been #56, and this one is #57

[cartman]

Originally Posted by [B

Johnny Slick][/b]
If you kick a field goal, miss it short, and the other team can't return it out of the end zone, you get a point. This is called a "rouge". Also, in the American game, isn't it possible (if exceedingly rare) to block an extra point attempt and return it for a 1-point score?

Yep, although in college, if the defense gets a turnover on an extra point or two-point conversion attempt, and they take it to the house, they get two points. The only time I saw a single point get awarded for something like this was a couple of years ago in the Texas-Texas A&M game. The Aggies blocked the extra point, and recovered it in the end zone. They then tried to return the block, and made it out of the end zone, where they fumbled the ball back into the end zone. The Aggies recovered the kick, but Texas tackled them in the end zone. Texas was awarded a 1 point safety. That was the only time I'd ever seen that call from the refs.

[Bee]

Originally Posted by Antmeister

I'll take a bet that this thread alone has more posts than the entire forum for Maximum Football.

At one point I did a rough count and we had more posts than their general forum, but that was a while back.

[Antmeister]

Originally Posted by Johnny Slick

If you kick a field goal, miss it short, and the other team can't return it out of the end zone, you get a point. This is called a "rouge". Also, in the American game, isn't it possible (if exceedingly rare) to block an extra point attempt and return it for a 1-point score?

Originally Posted by stevew

It's a rouge sighting!

Ah....okay, I was curious about that.

[Antmeister]

Originally Posted by digamma

Check out week 2!

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1140317

"Week 2 is done.Edmonton originally won but lost because the penalty kick program took Montreals score above Edmontons.Montreal sent in a roster update Edmonton did not."

Say what?

Ugh.....I am just going to assume this is a Canadian rules thing that I just don't understand. That statement makes no sense to me.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Originally Posted by Johnny Slick

If you kick a field goal, miss it short, and the other team can't return it out of the end zone, you get a point.

While this is mostly right, this won't happen if the kick is short. The goalposts in the CFL are on the goal line, so if it's short, it doesn't go into the end zone. Remember that the end zones are 20 yards deep, though, so a kick can miss wide and still not go out of the end zone. That's usually when the rouge comes into play on a field goal attempt.

I don't know for sure, but I would guess that most rouges happen on punts that don't get returned, though.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Originally Posted by Antmeister

Ugh.....I am just going to assume this is a Canadian rules thing that I just don't understand. That statement makes no sense to me.

I think it's the online league that is using some kind of "penalty kick rule" in case at least one team doesn't send in a roster file. The CFL has some wacky rules, but nothing like that!

[stevew]

Can't you get a rouge off of a drop kick too?

[John Galt]

Originally Posted by stevew

Can't you get a rouge off of a drop kick too?

Only if you can your framerate up to 27 fps.

[Godzilla Blitz]

Those stats are hilarious…

Maximum Football Online League News
We now take you to MAXIMUM FOOTBALL Sports News, covering the flagship Online League of this cutting edge simulation…

Announcer
Well, after two weeks of play, we’ve had quite a few thrilling games and some amazing achievements, that’s for sure. Let’s take a look at some of the league’s standout statistics.

Apparently Leipzig has a bit of work to do on their passing game. In 38 attempts so far, quarterback Bolden as thrown 40 interceptions.

Analyst
Yes, but let’s now be so quick to criticize him. First it’s not easy to throw more than one interception on the same play, and Bolden has managed to do that on more than one occasion. Second, he has completed 15 of his passes, so that means that 55 of his 38 pass attempts have been caught by somebody. Third, you can’t just blame the quarterback in a situation like this; you’ve also got to look at the offensive line. They’ve had some minor problems protecting him. If you look at the stats, he’s been sacked 90 times in their two games. That's what I call a real beating! Lastly, it may have just been some outstanding play by Sasketchupwan's Russell, as he has picked off 43 passes in two games, and may just be a demi-god in human form.

Announcer
Yes, but I'm sure their passing woes can be fixed with a bit of uniform design. Rumor has it that Leipzig's coach has hired Calvin Klein to a two-year, $7.1-million dollar contract as a team fashion designer; Leipzig’s passing game will be back in form once they get their colors in line.

But's let's move on and take a look at kick return specialist Lockett from Calgary, who has been busy in the first two weeks of games. Lockett has amassed nearly 200 yards in kick off returns over the first two weeks.

Analyst
While this may seem productive, I want to point out that it took Lockett 161 returns to get this yardage. The highlight of Lockett’s season came when he broke off a personal-best 6-yard return. Commented Lockett on his long return, "I caught the ball, took two steps forward, and fell down cuz' some big guy was running at me! Booya! Most of the time I catch the ball and try to remember what I’m supposed to do, but that time, I remembered: run forward! That’s what coach keeps telling me to do.”

Announcer
But by far the most amazing performance so far has been the Toronto Argonauts, who have burst out of the gate to a 2-0 start. They have outscored their opponents 118-9, and this is enough to give them a league-high winning percentage of 1311.11%. Way to go Argonauts!

Analyst
Wait a moment, there! Don’t forget about penalty goals! Yes, with Maximum Football you can customize the game, and in our flagship league, tie games are decided by soccer midgets that run onto the field and kick watermelons at llamas! The penalty kicks made the difference with Edmonton and Montreal, as Edmonton lost then won because Montreal’s midget hit the llama between the eyes!

What excitement!

Announcer
Yes, that’s MAXIMUM FOOTBALL for you! Well, our time is up. We’ll be back next week for a closer look at the league’s other stat categories. Thanks for tuning in! See you next week*!

*In Maximum Football time units. One week equals 38 days. So two weeks equals, ummmm, 137.37% days.

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by Godzilla Blitz

Color
But don’t forget about penalty goals, there! Yes, with Maximum Football you can customize the game, and in our flagship league, tie games are decided by soccer midgets that run onto the field and kick watermelons at llamas! The penalty kicks made the difference with Edmonton and Montreal, as Edmonton lost then won because Montreal’s midget hit the llama between the eyes!

That sounds like a ZFL game right there.

[Bee]

Originally Posted by Godzilla Blitz

Those stats are hilarious…

Maximum Football Online League News
We now take you to MAXIMUM FOOTBALL Sports News, covering the flagship Online League of this cutting edge simulation…

Announcer
Well, after two weeks of play, we’ve had quite a few thrilling games and some amazing achievements, that’s for sure. Let’s take a look at some of the league’s standout statistics.

Apparently Leipzig has a bit of work to do on their passing game. In 38 attempts so far, quarterback Bolden as thrown 40 interceptions.

Color Commontater
Yes, but let’s now be so quick to criticize him. First it’s not easy to throw more than one interception on the same play, and Bolden has managed to do that on more than one occasion. Second, he has completed 15 of his passes, so that means that 55 of his 38 pass attempts have been caught by somebody. Third, you can’t just blame the quarterback in a situation like this; you’ve also got to look at the offensive line. They’ve had some minor problems protecting him. If you look at the stats, he’s been sacked 90 times in their two games.

Announcer
Yes, but that's nothing that a bit of uniform design can’t take care of, I'm sure. Rumor has it that Leipzig's coach has hired Calvin Klein as a uniform designer; I’m sure Leipzig’s passing game will be back in form once they get their fashion in line.

But's let's move on and take a look at kick return specialist Lockett from Calgary, who has been busy in the first two weeks of games. Lockett has amassed nearly 200 yards in kick off returns over the first two weeks. While this may seem productive, critics are quick to point out that it took Lockett 161 kickoff returns to get this yardage. The highlight of Lockett’s season came when he broke off a personal-best 6-yard return. Commented Lockett on his long return, "I caught the ball, took two steps forward, and fell down cuz' some big guy was running at me! Booya! Most of the time I catch the ball and try to remember what I’m supposed to do, but that time, I remembered: run forward! That’s what coach keeps telling me to do.”

But by far the most amazing performance so far has been the Toronto Argonauts, who have burst out of the gate to a 2-0 start. They have outscored their opponents 118-9, and this is enough to give them a league-high winning percentage of 1311.11%. Way to go Argonauts!

Color Commentator
But don’t forget about penalty goals, there! Yes, with Maximum Football you can customize the game, and in our flagship league, tie games are decided by soccer midgets that run onto the field and kick watermelons at llamas! The penalty kicks made the difference with Edmonton and Montreal, as Edmonton lost then won because Montreal’s midget hit the llama between the eyes!

What excitement!

Announcer
Yes, that’s MAXIMUM FOOTBALL for you! Well, our time is up. We’ll be back next week for a closer look at the league’s other stat categories. Thanks for tuning in! See you next week*!

*In Maximum Football time units. One week equals 38 days. So two weeks equals, ummmm, 137.37% days.

That was hilarious.

[John Galt]

GB, that was incredible. Whose stats were those?

To answer my own question - they belong to the VCFL and you can read more about their league at blindsideblitz.com.

[Godzilla Blitz]

Originally Posted by John Galt

GB, that was incredible. Whose stats were those?

Thanks. T'was fun to write.

The stats are from the link in Antmeister's post up above. He got them from what is apparently the first online league using Maximum Football?

Edit: Ah, beat me to it.

[QuikSand]

So, there's one semi-understandable mistake ... his calculation of Pct is not winning percentage, but (inexplicably):

Pct = PF / PA


...but the rst of it I can't make head or tails of. Good stuff, though. Very customized.

[Godzilla Blitz]

Wow. There's just so much more material there to work with. I just scratched the surface...

Leipzig's quarterback, with his 90 sacks and 40 interceptions, also leads the league in rushing with 350 yards on 50 attempts. ...There have been no fumbles and no sacks (as far as I can tell from the rushing leaders and tackles leaders) in the league, yet Bolden has been sacked 90 times. ...Leipzig's Benetka leads the league with 90 tackles. Best I can figure is that this means he is making virtually every tackle for his team on defense. Or maybe he is the one sacking his own quarterback?

Yes, very customized.

[digamma]

That was awesome, GB. I'm in tears.

[Simms]

Originally Posted by Antmeister

Serious question now! I don't know anything about Canadian rules football, but is it possible to score just 1 point for the entire game?

I didn't play football in high school, but when I was a junior, our school played the District Championship game in a snow/rain/ice storm.

We lost 1-0.

[QuikSand]

So, if I (or just some guy) wanted to go to their forum and just post something like "Hey, the game sounds interesting, but I'm worried about stats reliability" or somesuch... is there anywhere you're allowed to just discuss the game? (It seems not)

I guess that's off-limits... considering open game discussion tends to lead toward things that they don't really allow there (like cracking wise).

[Antmeister]

Originally Posted by Godzilla Blitz

Those stats are hilarious…

Maximum Football Online League News
We now take you to MAXIMUM FOOTBALL Sports News, covering the flagship Online League of this cutting edge simulation…

Announcer
Well, after two weeks of play, we’ve had quite a few thrilling games and some amazing achievements, that’s for sure. Let’s take a look at some of the league’s standout statistics.

Apparently Leipzig has a bit of work to do on their passing game. In 38 attempts so far, quarterback Bolden as thrown 40 interceptions.

Analyst
Yes, but let’s now be so quick to criticize him. First it’s not easy to throw more than one interception on the same play, and Bolden has managed to do that on more than one occasion. Second, he has completed 15 of his passes, so that means that 55 of his 38 pass attempts have been caught by somebody. Third, you can’t just blame the quarterback in a situation like this; you’ve also got to look at the offensive line. They’ve had some minor problems protecting him. If you look at the stats, he’s been sacked 90 times in their two games. That's what I call a real beating! Lastly, it may have just been some outstanding play by Sasketchupwan's Russell, as he has picked off 43 passes in two games, and may just be a demi-god in human form.

Announcer
Yes, but I'm sure their passing woes can be fixed with a bit of uniform design. Rumor has it that Leipzig's coach has hired Calvin Klein to a two-year, $7.1-million dollar contract as a team fashion designer; Leipzig’s passing game will be back in form once they get their colors in line.

But's let's move on and take a look at kick return specialist Lockett from Calgary, who has been busy in the first two weeks of games. Lockett has amassed nearly 200 yards in kick off returns over the first two weeks.

Analyst
While this may seem productive, I want to point out that it took Lockett 161 returns to get this yardage. The highlight of Lockett’s season came when he broke off a personal-best 6-yard return. Commented Lockett on his long return, "I caught the ball, took two steps forward, and fell down cuz' some big guy was running at me! Booya! Most of the time I catch the ball and try to remember what I’m supposed to do, but that time, I remembered: run forward! That’s what coach keeps telling me to do.”

Announcer
But by far the most amazing performance so far has been the Toronto Argonauts, who have burst out of the gate to a 2-0 start. They have outscored their opponents 118-9, and this is enough to give them a league-high winning percentage of 1311.11%. Way to go Argonauts!

Analyst
Wait a moment, there! Don’t forget about penalty goals! Yes, with Maximum Football you can customize the game, and in our flagship league, tie games are decided by soccer midgets that run onto the field and kick watermelons at llamas! The penalty kicks made the difference with Edmonton and Montreal, as Edmonton lost then won because Montreal’s midget hit the llama between the eyes!

What excitement!

Announcer
Yes, that’s MAXIMUM FOOTBALL for you! Well, our time is up. We’ll be back next week for a closer look at the league’s other stat categories. Thanks for tuning in! See you next week*!

*In Maximum Football time units. One week equals 38 days. So two weeks equals, ummmm, 137.37% days.

Okay, I just about cried reading this. That is awsome!!!

[JeeberD]

Outstanding stuff, GB!

[fantastic flying froggies]

That was gold, GB!

Could this be the start of a new Golden Age for this thread?

[digamma]

Originally Posted by fantastic flying froggies

That was gold, GB!

Could this be the start of a new Golden Age for this thread?

It might...as someone won the ebay auction for $5.

[SunDevil]

Ouch, shipping the thing is $1 dollar less than the winning bid. Talk about adding on the insult.

[KWhit]

That's fantastic.

[MizzouRah]

The thread that keeps going... and going... and going.. and going...

[Antmeister]

GB, you have so much crap to work with if you want to continue you Maximum Football Highlight show. Here are more things that happened in just two games:

In fact, none of the top tacklers had any sacks and 90 tackles is just so wrong. Hmmm.

Receiving

I suppose you can have 20 receptions for 520 yards in just two games.

Punts

Uhhhhhh.....what........is it just me? This is just 2 games.

Sure, you had a quarterback with more interceptions than completions, but this guy is awesome. Out of 33 completions, 20 were touchdowns and 10 were interceptions.

43 inteceptions? This is my dream cornerback or safety or linebackbacker. Hey! What position does this guy play? And why doesn't anyone have any return yards.

[Anthony]

couldn't David make money by selling his unsold inventory on ebay now? would he then realize just how much the market values his game? i mean, if the guy had to decide between having a room full of unsold merchandise or selling them at a deep discount it kinda seems like a no-brainer.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

couldn't David make money by selling his unsold inventory on ebay now?

Unless I missed something somewhere (which is quite possible), I wouldn't think Daivd controls the inventory, Matrix would. And I don't get the impression that they would admit their mistake by fire-selling the game on eBay.

But, this is Daivd we're talking about ... maybe he'll make a fortune investing in the games at full price from Matrix & then re-selling the game on eBay himself.

[Godzilla Blitz]

Thanks for the compliments, guys! Was fun to do.

Originally Posted by Antmeister

GB, you have so much crap to work with if you want to continue you Maximum Football Highlight show.

Yeah, there's a good month's worth of stuff and we're only up to week Two! Feel free to join the fun.

And now, it's time for...

In the Maximum Football Locker Room, with ESPN's Bibi Gunn

Bibi: This is Bibi Gunn, reporting live from the locker room with Joe Russell, all-pro safety from the Sasketchupwan Roughriders. After two games, Russell leads the league with 43 interceptions, a pace that would give him more than 300 interceptions on the year. Russ, tell us, what’s the secret of your success?

Russell: Well, first of all, I’d like to thank our uniform designer for making me this awesome outfit. (holds up jersey) This is prolly the biggest reason I rule. See all the colors? That hypnotizes the opposing quarterback. Slows him down, like in that movie with that Neo dude. (makes pistol shooting gesture). I call it my Matrix effect.

Bibi: Yes, but that can’t be the only reason, Russ. Surely, there’s something else.

Russell: (thinking) Well, when the opposing quarterback goes back to throw and starts looking downfield, I wave my arms and yell, “Over here! Throw it to me!” (laughs) Bingo! Another interception! Gets them every time.

Bibi: But don’t the offenses adapt to you? I mean, after a couple dozen interceptions, you’d think the opposition would try different things?

Russell: Oh, yeah, they’re crafty as hell, always switching the count of the play and stuff. So I gotta always mix up how I play, you know? I’m always changing what I yell at the quarterback. Sometimes I say “I’m open. Hit me!” That’s a good one, Bibi. A quarterback really has to be on top of his game to not get fooled by that one. Other times, I’ll yell, “Loser, bet you can’t throw it this far!” Hah, you should see their faces after I pick one off with that clutch line. (laughs) I rule.

Bibi: With an average of five interceptions a quarter, no one doubts your value to your team, but I’m sure you're aware of your detractors and what they say about your game, Russ, and you know I've got to ask you about it.

Russell: Oh. (looks down) The interception return yardage?

Bibi: Exactly. I mean, in 43 interceptions, you’ve yet to return one for a single yard. The replays show the truth: after every single interception, you topple over like a dead camel. Your total return yardage is zero, Russ. What do you have to say to your critics?

Russell: Football’s a complicated game, Bibi. Anyone knows that. It ain’t just a bunch of spread sheets and numbers. Heck, I did spread sheets and numbers years ago, and anyone can do that. Football requires quick thinking, Bibi. You got legs and arms, and it ain’t easy switching between the two, you know? Catching takes toootal concentwation with my arms, and I’m working hard at switching to using my legs. On top of that, I gotta remember to run, which is a complex activity involving lots of pixels, and depends on things like frame rates and such. No, not easy at all. Plus I ain’t the only one with that problem, Bibi. No one else in the league has any return yardage either.

Bibi: (looking at camera) Well, there you have it. Russell answers his critics. (looks back at Russell). Russ, there’s one more thing I wanted to ask you. On the stats sheet for interceptions, it mentions “Trys”. You got a zero in that, as did everyone else in the league. What the heck is a “try”?

Russell: (Looks perplexed.) Um, not sure there, Bibi. Maybe something about putting out a good effort? Or maybe we're actually playing rugby? But Bibi, I’m not concerned with that stuff. It’s spreadsheet stuff, and spreadsheets are kid's stuff.

Bibi: (looking at camera) Signing off from Sasketchupwan, I'm Bibi Gunn. Bang bang. (winks)

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Godzilla Blitz

Russ: Football’s a complicated game, Bibi. Anyone knows that. It ain’t just a bunch of spread sheets and numbers. Heck, I did spread sheets and numbers years ago, and anyone can do that. Football requires quick thinking, Bibi. You got legs and arms, and it ain’t easy switching between the two, you know? Catching takes toootal concentwation with my arms, and I’m working hard at switching to using my legs. On top of that, I gotta remember to run, which is a complex activity involving lots of pixels, and depends on things like frame rates and such. No, not easy at all. Plus I ain’t the only one with that problem, Bibi. No one else in the league has any return yardage either.

That's great.

[Groundhog]

I heard Joe Russell once intercepted a Dean Houston pass for negative 12 yards and a safety.

[Dean Houston]

Joe Russell couldn't catch AIDS even if his mother passed it to him.

See, now you got Ole Dean talking street, and I just hate talking street.