LXXVII Spawn III: Game Over (See Post 4507)

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

anyone in my group of AT would have known the instant i was converted... as you would know if you were AT.....

You're barking up the wrong tree, dude, and it's not helping your case.

I'm only trying to have someone remind me what BK's statement about "maybe" was.

The Jackal said this:

When PB asked him if he'd be told if someone in his AT group was turned spawn.

But I was looking for more details about how/why he was thinking that could indicate you were converted. I want to hear more about his thoughths on you, basically.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by KWhit

If the assumption you guys were making is that MV was in your AT, that doesn't work, does it, since he was also an empath?

A player can't have multiple roles, can he?

But, let's discuss the 'maybe' thing again. What was this about, and how might it indicate that clap was converted?

I don't remember the details of this....

I forgot MV was revealed as an empath, that makes me feel much better about clap.

[KWhit]

BK,

Did PakerFanatic have any special spawn role? Or was he just a normal spawn?

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

anyone in my group of AT would have known the instant i was converted... as you would know if you were AT.....

That's not true - BK told PB that "maybe" we would be told if someone in our group was converted.

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by KWhit

You're barking up the wrong tree, dude, and it's not helping your case.

I'm only trying to have someone remind me what BK's statement about "maybe" was.

The Jackal said this:


But I was looking for more details about how/why he was thinking that could indicate you were converted. I want to hear more about his thoughths on you, basically.

i have no case... I dont need help

[jeheinz72]

Clap, have you been off the ship?

[claphamsa]

hmm, yes. when i was a prvate, I led the away team day 1

[claphamsa]

i think

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by KWhit

The Jackal said this:


But I was looking for more details about how/why he was thinking that could indicate you were converted. I want to hear more about his thoughths on you, basically.

The only reason I thought he might've been converted was that he never revealed being part of AT - but part of that was based on the idea that I thought MV's secret role hadn't been revealed, so there's really no basis for it.

I haven't gotten any further PMs about our group since Friday, which I imagine means it's more likely nothing has happened to any of us.

[claphamsa]

i agree, thats why i haven't said anythign

[The Jackal]

I would like to hear about saldana's secret role.

[KWhit]

Yes, we still need to know Saldana's and Bullet's secret roles, I believe.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by KWhit

BK,

Did PakerFanatic have any special spawn role? Or was he just a normal spawn?

Normal spawn.

[KWhit]

Bah.

[claphamsa]

Well we dont know if there are any other spawn roels do we? the onlyone guarantted was the queen.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

Well we dont know if there are any other spawn roels do we? the onlyone guarantted was the queen.

I was assuming we'd also be told if we got the unaware spawn or a member of the spawn council. But I'm not positive of this.

BK, can you clarify what kinds of Spawn roles are revealed on death?

[saldana]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

I would like to hear about saldana's secret role.

im a light sleeper...which hasnt done me a whole lot of good to this point, since I have only been to sleep once all game.

[saldana]

Originally Posted by KWhit

I was assuming we'd also be told if we got the unaware spawn or a member of the spawn council. But I'm not positive of this.

BK, can you clarify what kinds of Spawn roles are revealed on death?

well we have to conclude that we arent being told about the spawn council...if there was only one kill last night, and one failed kill, which leads us to beleive we are down to one spawn with packerfanatic's death today, then PF and Olie must have been on the council.

[KWhit]

Remember that Spawn can team up on an attack. Just because there were only 2 attacks doesn't mean that there are only 2 spawn left. I HOPE there aren't more than that, but we can't be certain.

[saldana]

so we have clap saying he worked on the beds, which he didnt

and

we have clap saying he is in an absolute trust group, which doesnt make sense in multiple ways

vote clap

[saldana]

Originally Posted by KWhit

Remember that Spawn can team up on an attack. Just because there were only 2 attacks doesn't mean that there are only 2 spawn left. I HOPE there aren't more than that, but we can't be certain.

good point, forgot about that...it would actually make sense that more than one went after alan, since he had a phaser, and no one is hurt

[KWhit]

Wait, Saldana, would you be willing to vote for jeheinz, knowing that I'll duke the vote if necessary (but I don't think it will be)...

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by saldana

good point, forgot about that...it would actually make sense that more than one went after alan, since he had a phaser, and no one is hurt

Exactly. That's what I was thinking may have happened.

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by saldana

so we have clap saying he worked on the beds, which he didnt

and

we have clap saying he is in an absolute trust group, which doesnt make sense in multiple ways

vote clap

which ways are those? that doesnt make sense?

[bulletsponge]

Originally Posted by KWhit

Yes, we still need to know Saldana's and Bullet's secret roles, I believe.

i dont know if i have one, and if i do i dont know it


*Salutes Cpt Alan*

were killing spawn rather quickly, my guy says theres only 1 spawn scum left. we went from 3 attacks, then killed the queen. last night we had 2 attacks and then killed packer. that leaves one of them left, he must be feeling lonely right about now, seeing all his slimy spawn buddies dying so quickly. to be honest im suprised how good were doing

[bulletsponge]

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

i dont know if i have one, and if i do i dont know it


*Salutes Cpt Alan*

were killing spawn rather quickly, my guy says theres only 1 spawn scum left. we went from 3 attacks, then killed the queen. last night we had 2 attacks and then killed packer. that leaves one of them left, he must be feeling lonely right about now, seeing all his slimy spawn buddies dying so quickly. to be honest im suprised how good were doing

my GUT, not guy.

[saldana]

wow...something really weird just happened to the board

what i was saying to Kwhit was...provided you dont intend on duking it to me

[saldana]

barkeep, feel free to delete all those unintentional duplicate posts

[KWhit]

Well, if bullet, saldana, clap, and maybe 1 more person votes for jeheinz it could tell us a bunch.

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by KWhit

Well, if bullet, saldana, clap, and maybe 1 more person votes for jeheinz it could tell us a bunch.

Well, it'd have to be 4 total (since we've already tried 3 votes).

Also so what do we know?

KWhit - AT
PB - AT
Danny - Spawn Aware
jeheinz - ???
clap - AT??
Jackal - AT
Bullet - ???
Schmidty - Duplicant
Saldana - Light sleeper

Have any of the known dead spawn shown to have survivor secret powers? Like did olie ever say she had one? Because if not, then I'll be voting for bullet ASAP, since I know I'm not spawn.

[jeheinz72]

FTR, I think Danny should be that 4th person. That would give us a set of expected returned answers of: Spawn Aware, Absolute Trust, Light Sleeper and ?????

From the answer I should be able to deduce if the person if telling the truth (if one of the first three) or if Bullet doesn't have a power (ergo is Spawn, no?)

[jeheinz72]

To clarify, that 4th person should be someone whose secret power isn't a duplicate of one already voting for me (so Schmidty would work as well). If two of the voters claim to have Absolute Trust then I won't be able to know if one is lying since it doesn't tell me who has the power, just the power.

[saldana]

at the direction of the captain
unvote clap
vote heinz

[jeheinz72]

FTR, it's worth noting that there is no Spawn role that benefits from getting votes, so if some of you have concerns in that regard about me, it'd be pretty lame of me to ASK for votes if I were spawn.

[jeheinz72]

Ha, it's so weird to get votes and it be a good thing. I saw that vote and was like "What the hell! Who isn't listening here!"

Then I realized it was me.

[claphamsa]

umm.....

[claphamsa]

vote hinenz

[jeheinz72]

Clap, you're supposed to vote for me (and also get to work on the beds)

[claphamsa]

I voted for you in post 4132.

and at 1057 AM I sent the pm to BK to work on beds...
(this was when I realized I forgot yesterday )

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

I voted for you in post 4132.

and at 1057 AM I sent the pm to BK to work on beds...
(this was when I realized I forgot yesterday )

Yeah, we posted at the same time.

And good.

[claphamsa]

I can vote you again if you like

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

I can vote you again if you like

Nah, but given that it's presumed here that you're following the plan and not voting for who you think is Spawn, who would you be voting for had this plan not been in place?

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

To clarify, that 4th person should be someone whose secret power isn't a duplicate of one already voting for me (so Schmidty would work as well). If two of the voters claim to have Absolute Trust then I won't be able to know if one is lying since it doesn't tell me who has the power, just the power.

Yep. That was my thought. We can deduce a lot from the result if we know what our expected results are and the claimed powers are all different.

[jeheinz72]

So yeah, those 4 should all vote for me, and the rest of us on the lynch. Though the catch is, if I had to pick now, I'd vote for one of those 3 people (clap/saldana/bullet)

[PurdueBrad]

Claph, I do have to wonder why you didn't come out before. I don't *think* you are lying but it would've saved us a lot of discussion over whether or not to scan you, questioning you, putting Danny with you, etc. It's not a powerful role or one worth being killed over which is ultimately why Alan, KWhit, and myself came out. I was a tad bit annoyed that Jackal came out as late as he did but this is crazy. Again, I don't think you're lying but awful timing.

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Nah, but given that it's presumed here that you're following the plan and not voting for who you think is Spawn, who would you be voting for had this plan not been in place?

bulletsponge

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Claph, I do have to wonder why you didn't come out before. I don't *think* you are lying but it would've saved us a lot of discussion over whether or not to scan you, questioning you, putting Danny with you, etc. It's not a powerful role or one worth being killed over which is ultimately why Alan, KWhit, and myself came out. I was a tad bit annoyed that Jackal came out as late as he did but this is crazy. Again, I don't think you're lying but awful timing.

i diagree. there is no way to afirm it. so who cares if i come out with it or not!

im must say, when people tarted claiming AT I went back and looked at all of them, its the perferct cover, a vague, and unprovable power.

[KWhit]

If I do end up duking the vote tonight, I will have a mutiny vote on my hands. Those of you that are good MUST vote against a mutiny tonight or we're screwed (I'm assuming all spawn would vote for mutiny).

[jeheinz72]

Vote bulletsponge


I'm leaning not only on the suspicious behavior surrounding the empath business but if we're under the idea that no starting Spawn had a Survivor Secret role then either there was just 1 starting spawn or bullet was the 2nd.

[jeheinz72]

KWhit, I will definitely vote against a mutiny. You're as clear as clear can be in my mind. Not only would I just pay you out if you happened to be Spawn at this point, but I can't find a plausible route on how you'd be bad yet Alan wouldn't be.