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Old 04-19-2006, 12:25 PM   #4101
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April 19, 2006. This is the day that the Maximum football thread surpassed the inflated reference thread by having a post-zealot known as RedKingGold inflate the thread's post count.

By the way, do we want this to reach 100,000 views. What if it breaks the board. If the board breaks, I plan to used Pumpy Tudors as the scapegoat since he refuses to post Pumpy pics and we are already went through a third of the year.
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Old 04-19-2006, 12:55 PM   #4102
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April 19, 2006. This is the day that the Maximum football thread surpassed the inflated reference thread by having a post-zealot known as RedKingGold inflate the thread's post count.

By the way, do we want this to reach 100,000 views. What if it breaks the board. If the board breaks, I plan to used Pumpy Tudors as the scapegoat since he refuses to post Pumpy pics and we are already went through a third of the year.

I think this needs to be tested.
What if, 10 years down the road, Daivd releases Maximum Football 2?
Who knows how high the view count could go?

We need to start preparing now.
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Old 04-19-2006, 01:14 PM   #4103
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April 19, 2006. This is the day that the Maximum football thread surpassed the inflated reference thread by having a post-zealot known as RedKingGold inflate the thread's post count.

By the way, do we want this to reach 100,000 views. What if it breaks the board. If the board breaks, I plan to used Pumpy Tudors as the scapegoat since he refuses to post Pumpy pics and we are already went through a third of the year.

I am such a moron. Let me rephrase this:

April 19, 2006. This is the day that the Maximum football thread surpassed the inflated reference thread by having a post-view zealot known as RedKingGold inflate the thread's post views.
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Old 04-19-2006, 01:17 PM   #4104
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I am such a moron. Let me rephrase this:

April 19, 2006. This is the day that the Maximum football thread surpassed the inflated reference thread by having a post-view zealot known as RedKingGold inflate the thread's post views.

Thank you very much. I take being called a zealot in anything a compliment.

For example, I consider myself a zealot when it comes to my masturbation techniques. (If anyone wants pictures, please PM)


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Old 04-19-2006, 01:32 PM   #4105
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Old 04-19-2006, 03:10 PM   #4106
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Thank you very much. I take being called a zealot in anything a compliment.

For example, I consider myself a zealot when it comes to my masturbation techniques. (If anyone wants pictures, please PM)


Worst post in this thread.

We don't want to think about your techniques.

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Old 04-19-2006, 03:12 PM   #4107
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If the board breaks, I plan to used Pumpy Tudors as the scapegoat since he refuses to post Pumpy pics and we are already went through a third of the year.
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Old 04-19-2006, 03:38 PM   #4108
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Damn, looks like it went back to 99,000
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Old 04-19-2006, 03:43 PM   #4109
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Damn, looks like it went back to 99,000

The Fed is bumping up interest rates to keep inflation down.
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Old 04-19-2006, 04:24 PM   #4110
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If more than 5 people bought the game it might be worth investing in a facility to hold annual Maximum Football slumber parties.

Party at GWSFBSDSBSA's house! Only 15 dollars per hour!
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Old 04-19-2006, 04:40 PM   #4111
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Party at GWSFBSDSBSA's house! Only 15 dollars per hour!

LOL....actually the screen name is GWsFBAStartOct292006. And for some strange reason, I can't wait unitl October 29 of this year. I want to see how this works out for him. He was the best UIC poster I have even seen in my life.
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Old 04-19-2006, 05:01 PM   #4112
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LOL....actually the screen name is GWsFBAStartOct292006. And for some strange reason, I can't wait unitl October 29 of this year. I want to see how this works out for him. He was the best UIC poster I have even seen in my life.

I forgot about that guy. Great comedy.
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Old 04-19-2006, 06:53 PM   #4113
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Ok....I am scared. We have less than 500 post before it hits 100,000. Do we have to type in some kind of key combination so the board won't blow up? And will it then show some hierogliphic symbols before it resets to post #1? Someone has to have the combination.
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Old 04-19-2006, 07:09 PM   #4114
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Why can't you differentiate between "posts" and "views", Ant?
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Old 04-19-2006, 07:13 PM   #4115
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Why can't you differentiate between "posts" and "views", Ant?

Damn it.....leave me alone. Anyways, less than 450 views to go. And of all people, I should have known not to mention posts around you since you hoard them them as if they were gold nuggets. So I am sorry, postmaster of FOFC.
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Old 04-19-2006, 07:29 PM   #4116
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Just another 652...651 now...posts until I hit 20,000. I sure hope the board doesn't implode!!!11!1!
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Old 04-19-2006, 08:06 PM   #4117
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Everyone should contribute to this team effort, and here's my contribution towards the 100,000 mark.
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Old 04-19-2006, 08:08 PM   #4118
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Just another 652...651 now...posts until I hit 20,000. I sure hope the board doesn't implode!!!11!1!

So, all you have to do is post nearly the same amount of posts I've made since 2003. I look forward to this milestone taking place sometime around April 30.
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Old 04-19-2006, 08:11 PM   #4119
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Well if people work really hard, we can get 5,000 posts. No werewolf thread would compete with this monster. How many werewolf threads have pictures, limericks, and videos? None I tell you.
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Old 04-19-2006, 08:21 PM   #4120
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Ok....I am scared. We have less than 500 post before it hits 100,000. Do we have to type in some kind of key combination so the board won't blow up? And will it then show some hierogliphic symbols before it resets to post #1? Someone has to have the combination.

Dude, it already hit 100k and then went back to 99k.
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Old 04-19-2006, 08:24 PM   #4121
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Well if people work really hard, we can get 5,000 posts. No werewolf thread would compete with this monster. How many werewolf threads have pictures, limericks, and videos? None I tell you.

Remember that thread you had asking for lyrics for a new parody song? I'll always regret never finishing the lyrics for my spoof of "Feel Good Inc.", named "Werewolf Inc.".

I had all of it done outside of half the rap section.
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Old 04-19-2006, 08:36 PM   #4122
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Remember that thread you had asking for lyrics for a new parody song? I'll always regret never finishing the lyrics for my spoof of "Feel Good Inc.", named "Werewolf Inc.".

I had all of it done outside of half the rap section.

No one said it was too late.
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Old 04-19-2006, 08:38 PM   #4123
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Dude, it already hit 100k and then went back to 99k.

Oh....didn't even notice. So we will never know the official view count again. Sad.
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Old 04-19-2006, 10:13 PM   #4124
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My vote is for Bubba Wheels to blast the thread right about now. Chaos would ensue...million of children would die. Tales of woe made for an 80s metal album.
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Old 04-19-2006, 10:20 PM   #4125
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Old 04-20-2006, 06:57 PM   #4126
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Old 04-20-2006, 07:54 PM   #4127
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Old 04-20-2006, 09:13 PM   #4128
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I dare someone to count how many times this has been mentioned.
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Old 04-20-2006, 10:24 PM   #4129
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w00t, had the 100,000th (and 100,001st) view!
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Old 04-20-2006, 10:26 PM   #4130
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Old 04-20-2006, 10:27 PM   #4131
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Old 04-20-2006, 10:37 PM   #4132
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What thread will ever overtake this one? I predict something down the pike 5 1/2 years from now.
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Old 04-20-2006, 10:45 PM   #4133
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What thread will ever overtake this one? I predict something down the pike 5 1/2 years from now.

Wait a second!

Is that Maximum Football 2's music I hear?
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Old 04-20-2006, 11:02 PM   #4134
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Old 04-20-2006, 11:21 PM   #4135
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What thread will ever overtake this one? I predict something down the pike 5 1/2 years from now.

Another "When to call" or whatever thread.
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Old 04-21-2006, 12:25 AM   #4136
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Maybe Flasch186 will provide us with another "Awkward" situation to kick around... one that will really capture our imagination and let our post counts take wing...



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Old 04-21-2006, 12:31 AM   #4137
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Hmm, I could have sworn we were at 999xx at some point and it went back to 99000. Oh well.
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Old 04-21-2006, 06:44 AM   #4138
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Wait a second!

Is that Maximum Football 2's music I hear?

Do you really think the sequel will only take 5 1/2 years?
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Old 04-21-2006, 06:54 AM   #4139
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Do you really think the sequel will only take 5 1/2 years?

It's possible it will be released by then, but I doubt the beta testing will have started yet.
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Old 04-21-2006, 08:04 AM   #4140
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Old 04-21-2006, 10:06 AM   #4142
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Actually, you need the Yes text box

Did you buy Maximum Football -> Yes -> Why?
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Old 04-21-2006, 03:28 PM   #4144
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If everything goes well, we'll be releasing the second official update later today. To whet your appetites, here is the final readme and change list.

Change History:

v1.0.139 – April 17th, 2006
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NOTE: This is a condensed version of the BETA release histories previously posted on the forums at www.matrixgames.com. With those documents, some items would be listed twice, or more, as further changes or fixes to the same general area would be made multiple times and reported.

This document should be considered a list of updates/changes to the previous ‘official release’ (v1.095), not a list of what’s been addressed with each BETA release.

New Features:

1. From User Requests - Added the ability to quick simulate a single game, the complete current week, or the complete season without stopping. There is a known design issue in that you can't stop the process once it's started. I will try to find a way to allow that in future updates to the game but for now this at least addresses a wish list item many have had. Basically how this works is that when you click the 'quick sim' button, you're presented with a dialog of options. I'm going to expand this dialog when the old simulated game system back in place. But for now, it just lets you select how many games you want to simulate at a time.

2. From User Requests – An accelerated clock has been added. When the CPU is selecting a play, the game and play clock is accelerated to better mimic the time taken by a human player to select a play. The result is fewer offensive plays being run in a game.

3. From User Requests - User Cameras. Users can now selected different camera angles by pressing keys F5 through F8. These camera views are: F5-Traditional, F6-Overhead, F7-Coach, F8-Stadium

4. Added TE/SB to the Line up On Man command. Unlike the Receivers, that where you need to specify which one you want the defender to line up on, the SB/TE command will line up on the closest one to the defenders initial formation position.

IMPORTANT NOTE: Due to the changes in [Key On] and [Line Up On Man] commands, some old plays in the default play book may no longer play as designed. Updated plays are included in this release, but plays that have been created by users prior to these changes may not function the same as they did previously. Users may need to update their created plays in order to make best use of the changes with these two commands.

5. Basic Localization. Users outside of North America should no longer need to change their date/time/currency region settings to North American to play the game. Game text remains unlocalized.

6. Added some additional logic to the QB snap code so that the CPU QB that is on the winning team, going into the final minutes of the half, will delay the snap of the ball longer in an effort to waste time on the clock. This will only happen if the clock is running.

Existing Feature Functionality Changes:

1. In previous releases, some minor rules were generalized in the game so that all types of games used the same minor rules. Now, some minor rules that are considered “league specific” are being tied to the field type selected. This is not the best solution as these rules should be customizable to the user (as is the intended spirit of the game that the user can customize as much as possible). However, for the time being, some rules are being built to be enforced by field type. This is will be an ongoing process.

2. From User Requests - The arcade mode kicking has been changed. With previous releases, the player’s skills would affect the kick the user was attempting to make. So even if the user looked like they'd pointed the arrow at the right place, the field goal could still be missed. After the change the kick accuracy and distance is completely up to the user now. The movement of the arcade kicking indicator has been sped up to make it more challenging.

3. From User Requests - I've upped the passing accuracy. Now the passing completion rate should be most affected by the defense rather than the QB missing the receiver (although, that still happens). The receiver’s ability to catch the ball will also effect this.

4. Coaching mode kicking has been changed. The kicking strength skill of the kicking player is now ‘scaled’ to match the field the kicker is kicking on. The kicker will kick the ball has hard as he needs to in order to kick from the kicking point to the target. In most cases the target is the goal line of the opposition. What this means now is that a kicker with a 98 KST will kick differently on a 50 yard field as compared to his kicking on a 110 yard field.

5. QB scramble logic has been changed. The QB will now do a better job of scrambling or shuffling in the pocket to avoid pressure. Utility creators take note: there are new data constants in the maindata.mdb file that may effect your program’s functionality. A complete listing of these data constants is located at the end of this document.

6. Changed the logic for the QB to read the pass coverage. The QB should do a better job of finding the 'most open' receiver rather than just the first open receiver he sees. The result is the ball is spread around a little better and the QB will sometimes now throw to the running back rolling out into the flats as a safety valve rather than just throwing down field. By design, this is not always the case. For example, a scrambling QB will throw to the first person he sees. However, if un-pressured a QB should generally find the most open player.

7. Made some adjustments to the receiver catch logic. Receivers should catch the ball a little more often now improving the overall completion to attempt ratio.

8. New Saved Game Mechanism. Saved games are now in traditional Windows™ INI format rather than the custom format.

IMPORTANT NOTE: When a user saves a game, player stats for that game are saved in the file as well. If a user saves a game, then edits their roster, and then loads the saved game, the saved game will not be able to do anything with the data for the missing player. The game will start but it will use the roster the team currently has, not the roster that the game was saved with.

General Fixes:

1. Fixed a bug importing leagues. To import a league, a use need simply drop the league file (and supporting artwork folders) into the game root folder.

2. Fixed a problem with league standings being wiped away after a certain period of time. This only occurred if the league had divisions with no teams assigned to it.

3. Added some code to the create new season routines to remove any empty divisions and/or conferences. Empty Divisions and Conferences were causing a lot of problems with schedule generation as well as the game resetting standings. Now, once you start a new season, if any divisions or conferences are blank, they're removed before the rest of the season is generated.

4. Fixed the accumulation of statistics over the duration of a season as well as career. Two very small typos in one small area of code were causing a tremendous amount of problems! Users are encouraged to reset their leagues so that these changes can properly take effect.

5. The game clock no longer runs during any point after TD attempts (single or two point).

6. Addressed issues with field goals.

• That missed field goals caught in the end zone but not returned were not giving a single point when that rule was in place.

• On strange occasions, when a single point rule was not in place, a single point would still be awarded.

• Addressed the problem of the clock not stopping at the end of a quarter, kick offs and punts not happening as the clock runs out, etc... lots of game clock problems have hopefully been solved.

• Fixed a bug with field goals if they occurred with either the minutes or seconds in the quarter being at zero.

7. Added some code to ensure that when teams are created they have default uniforms created.

8. Adjusted the RB logic a little bit so that they will run more north south when going through the gaps in the line. Previously sometimes the RB would get up to the line and immediately try to evade an oncoming LB and wind up going no place. Now an RB will at least try to move forward as much as they can.

9. Made some changes to the QB sack code that addresses the 'incomplete pass/tackled by' issue. Now an incomplete pass is only recorded when the QB is hit and his arm is moving forward. As well, no tackle is recorded in this event any more.

10. Fixed a bug in arcade mode and fielding punts. If a user was in arcade mode and moving the KR toward the ball it was causing problems with the non-human controlled player and the human controlled player conflicting with each other as to which one was supposed to field the kick.

11. Fixed a bug with arcade mode and moving the selected player on the cover team.

12. Fixed bug with Canadian rule set in Quick play giving a team 3 time outs in a half, whereas it should be only a single time out in Canadian rules.

13. Fixed a bug with custom leagues/teams not showing up in the utilities properly. This was caused by two (or more) teams in different leagues sharing the same internal ID number. This has been adjusted to use a combination of league ID and Team ID when displaying in the tree view window.

14. Fixed bug with simulated games not advancing the quarter time after having played out a 3D game.

15. Fixed a field goal hang. If the field goal was missed, but the ball landed close enough to a player in the end zone, the player processed the ball catch and the game would hang if the live field goal option was set to false.

16. Fixed a bug that was introduced in build 1.0.100 that would cause the return of a missed, live field goal, to end the process without actually returning the missed kick.

17. Fixed a bug with the logic commands. Snap To was flagged as the last command to be executed and this was causing subsequent blocking commands to be ignored.

18. Fixed the Time Of Possession calculation in both 3D mode and quick sim mode.

19. Fixed a bug introduced in one of the previous builds that would prevent the safety animation from completing.

20. Made some changes to pass blocking so that there was less collapse on the LOS if the QB rolled out. One play in particular was showing this problem in Indoor rules.

21. Added some code to reset the player fatigue between plays in practice mode. Players can fatigue during the play, but each time the play resets, so does the player fatigue level. This allows for a more consistent practice of each play.

22. Changed the scale of some of the objects in the game so they're a little closer to 'life sized'. Some were overly large.

23. Upped the kicking angle on punts from 45 to about 55.

24. Fixed a bug with the clock that would stop the play mid execution (after the snap) if the quarter clock expired or minute warning sounded.

25. Removed the ref whistle from the simulated games. That was annoying.

26. Fixed a bug with time count penalties (delay of game) on punts that would cause the teams to switch sides without punting.

27. Fixed a bug with punts and field goals that would have the kicker kick the ball with no user interaction. Applicable to coaching and arcade mode.

28. Fixed a bug with fumbles. If the defense recovered the ball and was able to return it for a TD, then when the other team got the ball back via kick off, the ball would be spotted and a great many yards to go. Now, the ball is properly spotted as 1st and 10.

29. Made some changes to the break huddle routine so that there is less collision between players. It still happens in some cases, but it's considerably less than it was.

30. Fixed a bug with selecting field goals on outdoor fields with 8 man play books that do not include punt plays. It was reported by the community that the cause was 8 man play books with the field goal distance set to 99 yards. It turns out this was not the case but rather the play type selection process in the game. Users should have no problems setting their 8 man play books to 99 yard field goal distances.

31. Adjusted the punting distances for the quick sim games. The punts for a quick sim game should be in and around the 45 yard range.

32. Fixed a bug with the single point (Rouge) rule. The single point was being processed correctly, but the actual awarding of the point to the team score was not being done.

33. Adjusted the material applied to the field artwork & numbers. This should make the field artwork properly use the lighting in the game.

34. Corrected a problem loading more than 10 uniforms for a team. Note: More than 25 folders and the screen starts to bog down. 100 is the theoretical limit.

Known Issues:

This section is a short list of known issues. This is not an all encompassing list of issues being addressed. It is here to highlight some of the bigger ones we are working on.

- On American type fields, a kick off that goes out of bounds should result in an optional penalty of rekicking or taking the ball at the 40. At the moment, it automatically placing the ball at the 40. (see Existing Feature Changes item 1)

- Field goal attempt distances are being calculated from the LOS not from where the ball is kicked from.

- Injuries are still not properly recorded in quick sim games (they happen, but are not currently being recorded).

- The changes to the [Line Up On] and [Key On] commands are causing some defenders to be out of position at the snap of the ball. If the key’d player is on the opposite side of the field, the defender does not always have enough time before the snap of the ball to get into position. This is going to be addressed by having the defenders process these commands coming out of the huddle, rather than waiting until the offensive formation is set.

- There is a slight disconnect between the player spacing in the Play Development System and the player spacing in the 3D game. This is currently being addressed with a revamped Play Development System. Private testers should get their first hands on with this in a couple of weeks.

- While the majority of stats are properly being recorded, there are a few minor ones that are still not calculating properly.

- Saving a game at exactly the end of a quarter can sometimes cause the game to skip to the next quarter (if there is a next quarter) when you reload the saved game. The current work around is to save games prior to the end of a quarter.

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If everything goes well, we'll be releasing the second official update later today. To whet your appetites, here is the final readme and change list.




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delayed dola,

I'm not saying it won't be released today, but with the whole history of missed dates, why even leave yourself open to it if something does delay the release?
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Only 34 known bugs?How many bugs will these fixes spawn?
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delayed dola,

I'm not saying it won't be released today, but with the whole history of missed dates, why even leave yourself open to it if something does delay the release?

You make a great point. And guess what....they didn't release it.
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You make a great point. And guess what....they didn't release it.

20 minutes after this post and they release the second patch.

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Major v1.0.139 Update to Customizable Football Game

Matrix Games and Wintervalley Software (www.maximum-football.com) are pleased to announce the release of the second official update for Maximum-Football.

The v1.0.139 update for Maximum-Football is available for download from the Matrix Games site. This is the most significant update for Maximum-Football to date, incorporating both fixes for important issues as well as user-requested changes. Based on user requests, Maximum-Football now includes a quick simulation option for a single game or an entire week, an accelerated clock for CPU play selection, more user-adjustable data constants, additional camera viewpoints and some play design logic and localization improvements. Almost all aspects of gameplay have been improved in some respect. In addition, there are over thirty general fixes since the first update, which address issues with the kicking game, custom leagues and standings, statistics and many more.

David Heath, Director of Operations at Matrix Games, said, “We’re very happy to bring you such a major update so soon after the initial release. Thanks to the hard work of the Maximum-Football team, this update not only addresses the vast majority of outstanding issues, but also shows a glimpse some of the ongoing improvements that owners of Maximum-Football can expect.”

Maximum-Football gives players total control over every aspect of a team, from drafting and training camp to play design to setting the very rules of the league. Primarily a coaching and management game, Maximum-Football is a robust North American Football game where you can change nearly every single aspect of the rules and features. Use Indoor, Outdoor, Canadian, or American rule sets, or any combination thereof. Utilize the robust play editing system to create your own playbook specifically tailored for the team you drafted and trained in the pre-season. Compete in player-run leagues and discover if you have what it takes for a championship ring.

It isn’t just managing every aspect of a team though, Maximum-Football also features fully functional 3D coaching and arcade mode where you can watch the action or take the controls to run, pass, block, and tackle. For the complete list of features, please visit the Matrix Games Maximum-Football forum and the Maximum-Football site at www.maximum-football.com.

Discover the ultimate gridiron game! Maximum-Football is now available as a US $39.99 digital download and a US $49.99 boxed version from the Matrix Games Online Store.
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