LXXVII Spawn III: Game Over (See Post 4507) - Page 80

claphamsa · 07-15-2008, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

pretty much everythign will be fixed by the end of the day right?

I say we all go fix bunks... then you can read everyone

confirmed this. evertythign is fixed excpet beds... so we shoudl all be there!

claphamsa · 07-15-2008, 03:26 PM

can we get a BG protect on danny? is he worth it? is cheese good?

Danny · 07-15-2008, 03:28 PM

I think Pass is still a bigger target than I am, but if they get in two kills they may go for me in there somewhere. It would be nice if we could get them back to 1 kill a day

Alan T · 07-15-2008, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

can we get a BG protect on danny? is he worth it? is cheese good?

Going to have to dig up one from the grave...

Or you could decide to not vote for oliegirl and see if she protects anyone

jeheinz72 · 07-15-2008, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

He faked Barkeep listing him as a doctor?

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Originally Posted by Danny

I don't think you can fake the duplicant role. It's possible he got converted afterwards, but he would have been able to fake the duplicant role and comtinue faking scans I don't believe. If you don't want to clear either of us 100% that is fine, but there are a list of people without anything or anyone vouching for them right now that should be looked at first.

Good points. Like I said, I was mainly playing devil's advocate, I admiteddly rushed through the whole sequence of Pass suddenly being a doctor. But ok, yeah, if you two are as confident as you seem that it's on the up-and-up, I'll let that dog lie.

So ok, we snipe olie today and work off that list.

claphamsa · 07-15-2008, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Going to have to dig up one from the grave...

Or you could decide to not vote for oliegirl and see if she protects anyone

bah!

jeheinz72 · 07-15-2008, 03:30 PM

Is the number of kills related to the number of presumed Spawn? Or could even just 1 spawn kill like that?

Just seems if they're knocking off 2 each night (presuming we're correct about olie being Spawn and there are only 3 today) without a BG, this game could end real quick.

Alan T · 07-15-2008, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Good points. Like I said, I was mainly playing devil's advocate, I admiteddly rushed through the whole sequence of Pass suddenly being a doctor. But ok, yeah, if you two are as confident as you seem that it's on the up-and-up, I'll let that dog lie.

So ok, we snipe olie today and work off that list.

You're only reading half of what I post I think.. Go back and re-read what my thoughts are about Pass... I clearly listed the -ONLY- way he could be a spawn would have been to be converted the night before using his duplicant ability when he did not know he had a spawnling inside of him.. and then the next day when he became a doctor, he also became a spawn.

Since the probability of the timing on all of that is really small, that is why I said we had better targets to go after today, and tommorrow.

Danny · 07-15-2008, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Is the number of kills related to the number of presumed Spawn? Or could even just 1 spawn kill like that?

Just seems if they're knocking off 2 each night (presuming we're correct about olie being Spawn and there are only 3 today) without a BG, this game could end real quick.

Hopefully we can get lucky and they end up with a failed kill, but yes I think it's pretty important to nail a spawn each of the next two nights.

Alan T · 07-15-2008, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Is the number of kills related to the number of presumed Spawn? Or could even just 1 spawn kill like that?

Just seems if they're knocking off 2 each night (presuming we're correct about olie being Spawn and there are only 3 today) without a BG, this game could end real quick.

The rules state that each spawn can carry out their own action.. or they can team up for a better chance of success.. Just 1 spawn carrying out an action = less chance of success.. So two nights ago, we obviously had at least 4 spawn left but only 3 kills.. last night we have at least 3 spawn left since there were 3 kills.

They could have split up and only done one person per kill and just got extremely lucky.. or they could have alot more than 3 spawn left, which also then increases our chances of getting spawn correct on lynches too.

Danny · 07-15-2008, 03:34 PM

If they have a lot more then 3 spawn left would hit a spawn every night and still lose. I'm hopefully optimistic there there is in fact a max of 3 left.

oliegirl · 07-15-2008, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Going to have to dig up one from the grave...

Or you could decide to not vote for oliegirl and see if she protects anyone

That is the best idea I have heard all day! Who do you want me to guard tonight Alan????

Alan T · 07-15-2008, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Hopefully we can get lucky and they end up with a failed kill, but yes I think it's pretty important to nail a spawn each of the next two nights.

That is why I had kwhit and I hand out some phasers.. even with a phaser it doesn't mean they can't kill us.. but it helps with the odds for us.. Also makes them possibly make different decisions to team up instead of spreading out if their juicy targets all have phasers.

Danny · 07-15-2008, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by oliegirl

That is the best idea I have heard all day! Who do you want me to guard tonight Alan????

Shhhh, it will be all over soon

jeheinz72 · 07-15-2008, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

You're only reading half of what I post I think.. Go back and re-read what my thoughts are about Pass... I clearly listed the -ONLY- way he could be a spawn would have been to be converted the night before using his duplicant ability when he did not know he had a spawnling inside of him.. and then the next day when he became a doctor, he also became a spawn.

Since the probability of the timing on all of that is really small, that is why I said we had better targets to go after today, and tommorrow.

No I get it, and I did when I made the post you quoted. Hence why I'm not pushing it any more. I think you're right, the odds are small that it's just not the problem of the day.

Danny · 07-15-2008, 04:27 PM

What would be great for tomorrow is a list of the players Alan mentioned and their supposed night actions and day status as exhausted or not for all of the days. So far it seems like analyzing what's happened during then night is the best way to catch spawn.

Also, something to keep in mind, but none of the three dead spawn right now were on the counsel. This means the three longest living spawns are still alive and I would put people who were cleared earlier on on like Schmidty a touch down the list of guys like Packerfanatic who have never been cleared.

jeheinz72 · 07-15-2008, 04:28 PM

Ok folks I'm outta here, check ya in the A-M.

saldana · 07-15-2008, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

We were? I thought we were just not messing with them since, by doing their work, they're still helping us out, even if they're bad. I didn't know we thought it meant that they were good.

none of them have gotten scanned, and i dont think they have pulled in more than 2 or 3 votes as a group all game...that pretty much looks like we are assuming they are good guys..no suspicion whatsoever has been on them

Danny · 07-15-2008, 04:30 PM

I have been scanned Saldana. Also, it is unlikely Jeheinz is bad because I have worked with him so much. I also have no gotten bad reads on Clap or Purdue although I am less sure about them from my ability

Danny · 07-15-2008, 04:31 PM

Oh, and if it wasn't for my ability, I might think Jeheinz is a spawn from his posting throughout the game

saldana · 07-15-2008, 04:35 PM

yeah, danny, i was posting as i caught up, thanks

hoopsguy · 07-15-2008, 05:39 PM

Happy birthday, Bulletsponge.

Hope you don't pick up the birthday curse in WW

PurdueBrad · 07-15-2008, 06:31 PM

Alright guys, let's get a good lynch today. I'm out till late, good luck guys!

bulletsponge · 07-15-2008, 06:50 PM

ok ive seen enough of oliegirl to know shes acting like someone whos a wolf for the first time and looking a sure hanging in the face. its exactly how i acted my first wolfy time.... ok most of the time when im goina get hung.

Vote oliegirl

saldana · 07-15-2008, 07:52 PM

most boring WW. Day. Ever.

Alan T · 07-15-2008, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

most boring WW. Day. Ever.

Well if Hoops hadn't been night killed then maybe this wouldn't have been the case!

claphamsa · 07-15-2008, 07:55 PM

yeah, talk about a loss of momentum!

Danny · 07-15-2008, 07:55 PM

How many votes do we have on Oliegirl now?

Alan T · 07-15-2008, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

How many votes do we have on Oliegirl now?

Dunno, i assume enough no one has voted for anyone else.

Danny · 07-15-2008, 07:59 PM

I might want to switch my vote to Jeheinz. He thought he might have the ability gut feeling. If he does, I would like one of the players from the list of 6 to switch with me.

hoopsguy · 07-15-2008, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Well if Hoops hadn't been night killed then maybe this wouldn't have been the case!

In Spawn tradition, I have this to say:

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Alan T · 07-15-2008, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

I might want to switch my vote to Jeheinz. He thought he might have the ability gut feeling. If he does, I would like one of the players from the list of 6 to switch with me.

Right now we have 11 votes on oliegirl which is more than enough

Alan T · 07-15-2008, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

I might want to switch my vote to Jeheinz. He thought he might have the ability gut feeling. If he does, I would like one of the players from the list of 6 to switch with me.

you would need at least 3 other people to switch with you.. since it is triggered by a predetermined amount of votes (between 2 and 4)

Schmidty · 07-15-2008, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Happy birthday, Bulletsponge.

Hope you don't pick up the birthday curse in WW

Yeah. Happy birthday.

Danny · 07-15-2008, 08:05 PM

This is the list I am referring to

bulletsponge
oliegirl
Schmidty
Saldana
PackerFanatic

There's actually a player not here who I suspect might be a spawn, but I will keep that private for now as it is entirely gut feeling. I would like Packerfanatic to switch his vote to Jeheinz with me if he comes online.

Danny · 07-15-2008, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

you would need at least 3 other people to switch with you.. since it is triggered by a predetermined amount of votes (between 2 and 4)

Isn't it anyway of those numbers?

Alan T · 07-15-2008, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Isn't it anyway of those numbers?

Rules says 2-4 (predetermined number at the start of the game)

Schmidty · 07-15-2008, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

This is the list I am referring to

bulletsponge
oliegirl
Schmidty
Saldana
PackerFanatic

There's actually a player not here who I suspect might be a spawn, but I will keep that private for now as it is entirely gut feeling. I would like Packerfanatic to switch his vote to Jeheinz with me if he comes online.

Why am I a suspect again? Because I was proven to be a human on day 2, and could have been converted since?

Just checking. I don't really have a defense against that. All I've done since then is defend the water every night. All you have is my word, which means nothing in WW. But, yeah, I am a human.

Danny · 07-15-2008, 08:10 PM

Because it's theoretically possible for you to be converted since then. Personally, I think you are good.

Schmidty · 07-15-2008, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

Why am I a suspect again? Because I was proven to be a human on day 2, and could have been converted since?

Just checking. I don't really have a defense against that. All I've done since then is defend the water every night. All you have is my word, which means nothing in WW. But, yeah, I am a human.

Dola.

I'll be waiting for the person or persons that seriously start to push for my lynching before I have a suspect. Not a vengeance thing, just a way to have any idea at all to target someone, since only the Spawn know that I'm good.

saldana · 07-15-2008, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

Why am I a suspect again? Because I was proven to be a human on day 2, and could have been converted since?

Just checking. I don't really have a defense against that. All I've done since then is defend the water every night. All you have is my word, which means nothing in WW. But, yeah, I am a human.

dont take it personally schmidty..i am on the list too, even though i have none absolutely nothing but be helpful the entire game

Alan T · 07-15-2008, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

Why am I a suspect again? Because I was proven to be a human on day 2, and could have been converted since?

Just checking. I don't really have a defense against that. All I've done since then is defend the water every night. All you have is my word, which means nothing in WW. But, yeah, I am a human.

In case I am night killed.. the way I view both you and Passacaglia... is you showed an ability which means you were not an original spawned.. Both of you have a possibility of having been converted, but right now it seems to indicate that we have not found any of the original spawn council yet, or at least haven't found the Spawn Queen nor any of the other special spawn roles.. So until we at least lynch the spawn queen plus another roled spawn, it doesn't seem worthwhile even bothering to entertain any suspicions at either of you.

Schmidty · 07-15-2008, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

dont take it personally schmidty..i am on the list too, even though i have none absolutely nothing but be helpful the entire game

Nah. I don't take it personally. I just have to try to defend myself in anyway I can. My credibility is tenuous, and I understand that. It's pretty tough right now. I'm not sure that any chicanery by even the Spawns is going to work at this point, since clearance for anyone is tough. That's why I said that the ONLY thing I have to go on, is who potentially starts a run on the only person I know 100% is good - me. It's grasping at straws, but it's all I have.

Danny · 07-15-2008, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

In case I am night killed.. the way I view both you and Passacaglia... is you showed an ability which means you were not an original spawned.. Both of you have a possibility of having been converted, but right now it seems to indicate that we have not found any of the original spawn council yet, or at least haven't found the Spawn Queen nor any of the other special spawn roles.. So until we at least lynch the spawn queen plus another roled spawn, it doesn't seem worthwhile even bothering to entertain any suspicions at either of you.

agreed

Danny · 07-15-2008, 08:47 PM

Unvote Oliegirl
Vote Jeheinz

Would like to see one or two people switch with me, to at least give this a chance to work.

saldana · 07-15-2008, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Unvote Oliegirl
Vote Jeheinz

Would like to see one or two people switch with me, to at least give this a chance to work.

what is the point of this again

Schmidty · 07-15-2008, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Unvote Oliegirl
Vote Jeheinz

Would like to see one or two people switch with me, to at least give this a chance to work.

Why? Unless I missed something, I'm pretty sure there is a huge chance that olie is a Spawn.

Are you just trying to sow confusion? I just don't get that. Of course, I miss a lot of things, so I'm willing to listen.

Danny · 07-15-2008, 08:53 PM

Jeheinz thought he might have the gut feeling ability. This way he can see if he does and potentially get a read on someone good or bad. It's not a great move, but could be useful

Alan T · 07-15-2008, 08:54 PM

Jeheinz mentioned earlier in the day that he doesn't know what his secret role is yet, so thinks he may be the gut feeling.. so Danny is trying to explore that to help him see if that is the case. To do so though, Danny needs 2-3 more people to move to vote for jeheinz. not enough to lynch him but enough to try it out.

Danny · 07-15-2008, 08:54 PM

Olie is a spawn. I believe Jeheinz to be good, but earlier he suggested a couple people put votes on him to see if he was gut feeling.

07-15-2008, 03:26 PM	#3952
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	can we get a BG protect on danny? is he worth it? is cheese good? __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

07-15-2008, 07:55 PM	#3977
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	yeah, talk about a loss of momentum! __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

07-15-2008, 03:28 PM	#3953
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I think Pass is still a bigger target than I am, but if they get in two kills they may go for me in there somewhere. It would be nice if we could get them back to 1 kill a day

07-15-2008, 03:30 PM	#3957
jeheinz72 Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fresno, CA	Is the number of kills related to the number of presumed Spawn? Or could even just 1 spawn kill like that? Just seems if they're knocking off 2 each night (presuming we're correct about olie being Spawn and there are only 3 today) without a BG, this game could end real quick.

07-15-2008, 03:34 PM	#3961
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	If they have a lot more then 3 spawn left would hit a spawn every night and still lose. I'm hopefully optimistic there there is in fact a max of 3 left.

07-15-2008, 04:27 PM	#3966
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	What would be great for tomorrow is a list of the players Alan mentioned and their supposed night actions and day status as exhausted or not for all of the days. So far it seems like analyzing what's happened during then night is the best way to catch spawn. Also, something to keep in mind, but none of the three dead spawn right now were on the counsel. This means the three longest living spawns are still alive and I would put people who were cleared earlier on on like Schmidty a touch down the list of guys like Packerfanatic who have never been cleared.

07-15-2008, 04:28 PM	#3967
jeheinz72 Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fresno, CA	Ok folks I'm outta here, check ya in the A-M.

07-15-2008, 04:30 PM	#3969
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I have been scanned Saldana. Also, it is unlikely Jeheinz is bad because I have worked with him so much. I also have no gotten bad reads on Clap or Purdue although I am less sure about them from my ability

07-15-2008, 04:31 PM	#3970
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Oh, and if it wasn't for my ability, I might think Jeheinz is a spawn from his posting throughout the game

07-15-2008, 04:35 PM	#3971
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	yeah, danny, i was posting as i caught up, thanks

07-15-2008, 05:39 PM	#3972
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Happy birthday, Bulletsponge. Hope you don't pick up the birthday curse in WW

07-15-2008, 06:31 PM	#3973
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Alright guys, let's get a good lynch today. I'm out till late, good luck guys!

07-15-2008, 06:50 PM	#3974
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	ok ive seen enough of oliegirl to know shes acting like someone whos a wolf for the first time and looking a sure hanging in the face. its exactly how i acted my first wolfy time.... ok most of the time when im goina get hung. Vote oliegirl

07-15-2008, 07:52 PM	#3975
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	most boring WW. Day. Ever.

07-15-2008, 07:55 PM	#3978
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	How many votes do we have on Oliegirl now?

07-15-2008, 07:59 PM	#3980
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I might want to switch my vote to Jeheinz. He thought he might have the ability gut feeling. If he does, I would like one of the players from the list of 6 to switch with me.

07-15-2008, 08:05 PM	#3985
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	This is the list I am referring to bulletsponge oliegirl Schmidty Saldana PackerFanatic There's actually a player not here who I suspect might be a spawn, but I will keep that private for now as it is entirely gut feeling. I would like Packerfanatic to switch his vote to Jeheinz with me if he comes online.

07-15-2008, 08:10 PM	#3989
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Because it's theoretically possible for you to be converted since then. Personally, I think you are good.

07-15-2008, 08:47 PM	#3995
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Unvote Oliegirl Vote Jeheinz Would like to see one or two people switch with me, to at least give this a chance to work.

07-15-2008, 08:53 PM	#3998
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Jeheinz thought he might have the gut feeling ability. This way he can see if he does and potentially get a read on someone good or bad. It's not a great move, but could be useful

07-15-2008, 08:54 PM	#3999
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Jeheinz mentioned earlier in the day that he doesn't know what his secret role is yet, so thinks he may be the gut feeling.. so Danny is trying to explore that to help him see if that is the case. To do so though, Danny needs 2-3 more people to move to vote for jeheinz. not enough to lynch him but enough to try it out.

07-15-2008, 08:54 PM	#4000
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Olie is a spawn. I believe Jeheinz to be good, but earlier he suggested a couple people put votes on him to see if he was gut feeling.

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