2008 NFL Offseason Thread - Page 8

Travis · 03-04-2008, 05:12 PM

I'm curious how the Duckett signing filters down roster wise for Seattle. I'm assuming this might mean the end of Maurice Morris (with Weaver filling in his role of a receiver out of the backfield). Either way, should go a long ways to helping out their short yardage percentage which was awful last season.

st.cronin · 03-04-2008, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Good deal for TJ. I liked him this year with the Lions. He ran pretty well when given the chance.

I really don't know what the Lions are planning on doing. I guess Julius Jones was in town meeting with the Lions. I can't see him being much an upgrade over Kevin Jones (other than Kevin Jones has suffered a number of serious injuries).

I think they will draft a RB. Somebody like Tashard Choice or Kevin Smith might be available in the 3rd round, or they could get Ray Rice in the 2nd round maybe.

Mustang · 03-04-2008, 09:50 PM

Raiders shell out $55 million for Javon Walker with $16 million guaranteed.

$105 million with roughly $34 million in guaranteed money for 2 guys with leg issues. Nice use of $.

Just because you found $100 million under the couch cushions Al doesn't mean you mean to spend it.

st.cronin · 03-04-2008, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustang

Raiders shell out $55 million for Javon Walker with $16 million guaranteed.

$105 million with roughly $34 million in guaranteed money for 2 guys with leg issues. Nice use of $.

Just because you found $100 million under the couch cushions Al doesn't mean you mean to spend it.

HOLY ____!

Cringer · 03-04-2008, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustang

Raiders shell out $55 million for Javon Walker with $16 million guaranteed.

$105 million with roughly $34 million in guaranteed money for 2 guys with leg issues. Nice use of $.

Just because you found $100 million under the couch cushions Al doesn't mean you mean to spend it.

Good for Javon. Can't wait to see him trying to talk his way off another team in two years like he did with Green Bay and Denver. He got another crap load of money though.

Raiders are dumb.

Danny · 03-05-2008, 03:36 AM

Raiders also signed T Kwame Harris who was a bust with the 49ers. The massive amounts of money aside, I'm happy the Raiders are at least putting in the effort to try improve the team. Will it work out? Who knows, but after the last five years why not try something. The organization likely won't be able to get back to where it once was until Al Davis is no longer the controlling owner, but perhaps throwing all this money around will lead to a little bit of luck and a decent season or two until then. Bottom line is they had to overpay to bring in talent because of the current reputation of the franchise, so I'd rather overpay and maybe be competitive and win 7 or 8 games.

Apathetic Lurker · 03-05-2008, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Raiders also signed T Kwame Harris who was a bust with the 49ers. The massive amounts of money aside, I'm happy the Raiders are at least putting in the effort to try improve the team. Will it work out? Who knows, but after the last five years why not try something. The organization likely won't be able to get back to where it once was until Al Davis is no longer the controlling owner, but perhaps throwing all this money around will lead to a little bit of luck and a decent season or two until then. Bottom line is they had to overpay to bring in talent because of the current reputation of the franchise, so I'd rather overpay and maybe be competitive and win 7 or 8 games.

But sometimes doing nuthin' is better than what the Raiders did with the money. There are better ways of splashing out the cash.

Coffee Warlord · 03-05-2008, 08:43 AM

Yessir, the Bears alleviate their WR problems by signing.......wait for it.....Marty Booker.

2 year deal.

rjolley · 03-05-2008, 09:03 AM

I don't mind that signing so much if they didn't overspend and they draft a good prospect.

Coffee Warlord · 03-05-2008, 09:29 AM

Oh I don't mind it. Booker has prolly got a couple good years left in him, and has better hands than Moose or Berrian. Not a real deep threat, but a servicable vet possession guy.

I just find it increasingly disgusting that they haven't done ANYTHING in free agency to date to alleviate the gaping holes all over the field.

rjolley · 03-05-2008, 09:43 AM

Yeah, I'm suprised they didn't go after Turner and Faneca.

Getting a pick for Griese was excellent, though.

Honolulu_Blue · 03-05-2008, 09:47 AM

I will miss Brian Griese. He was one of the Lions' MVPs last year. He was pretty much directly responsible for 2 of their 7 wins.

johnnyshaka · 03-05-2008, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

I will miss Brian Griese. He was one of the Lions' MVPs last year. He was pretty much directly responsible for 2 of their 7 wins.

I'm sure Sexy Rexy or Orton will be just as good for you guys.

Cringer · 03-05-2008, 10:25 AM

People seem to think the NFC North is there for the taking now, with Favre retiring. Guys on the NFL Network yesterday seemed to think the Packers are .500 at best now. Of course they said that last year too....

Honolulu_Blue · 03-05-2008, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by johnnyshaka

I'm sure Sexy Rexy or Orton will be just as good for you guys.

You would think that, but...

Sexy Rexy is 2-0 in his career against the Lions:

His combined stats in those games: 40/63, 486 YDS, 4TD/0 Int.

Orton is 2-0 in his career against the Lions:

His combined stats in those games: 31/52, 380 YDS, 2TD/0 Int.

Last year, Griese was 0-2 against the Lions:

His combined stats in those games: 66/92, 494 YDS, 3 TD/7 Int.

Griese will be missed.

Honolulu_Blue · 03-05-2008, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Cringer

People seem to think the NFC North is there for the taking now, with Favre retiring. Guys on the NFL Network yesterday seemed to think the Packers are .500 at best now.

Let's hope they're right! Enough of the Packers always competing for the NFC North championship. It's LIONS TIME!!!!

B & B · 03-05-2008, 11:01 AM

I think that Tampa Bay could take this division, if it was the year 2000.

johnnyshaka · 03-05-2008, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

You would think that, but...

Sexy Rexy is 2-0 in his career against the Lions:

His combined stats in those games: 40/63, 486 YDS, 4TD/0 Int.

Orton is 2-0 in his career against the Lions:

His combined stats in those games: 31/52, 380 YDS, 2TD/0 Int.

Last year, Griese was 0-2 against the Lions:

His combined stats in those games: 66/92, 494 YDS, 3 TD/7 Int.

Griese will be missed.

With nobody to throw to except a couple of TEs and a return specialist and a piss poor running game EVEN the Lions should be excited to see the Bears on the opposite sideline.

JonInMiddleGA · 03-05-2008, 01:43 PM

Falcons released Joey Harrington.

We can assume he is now highly coveted by Tampa Bay

Although he would be an upgrade in Chicago as well.

Honolulu_Blue · 03-05-2008, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Falcons released Joey Harrington.

We can assume he is now highly coveted by Tampa Bay

Although he would be an upgrade in Chicago as well.

Honolulu_Blue · 03-05-2008, 01:47 PM

So, this leaves the Falcons with Chris Redman and DJ Shockley?

Ouch.

Edit: Then again the adding Joey Harrington to that duo really doesn't improve things.

rkmsuf · 03-05-2008, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

So, this leaves the Falcons with Chris Redman and DJ Shockley?

Ouch.

Edit: Then again the adding Joey Harrington to that duo really doesn't improve things.

Matt Ryan probably.

Dr. Sak · 03-05-2008, 01:49 PM

Too bad Petrino didn't stay...he'd be able to draft Brohm.

Honolulu_Blue · 03-05-2008, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

Matt Ryan probably.

Probably. But I can't see that going all that well. I mean, he's got to be the starter by Game 4, no?

JonInMiddleGA · 03-05-2008, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Probably. But I can't see that going all that well. I mean, he's got to be the starter by Game 4, no?

Given that Redman & Shockley (and whatever veteran FA they add to the group) will likely be on IR by Game 4 thanks to the state of the offensive line, yeah, the rookie will probably be starting by then. Although in D.J.'s case, it's a coin toss whether he even makes it that far (knee injury as a backup in '03 missed half a season, strained MCL in '05 missed 2 1/2 games in his only season as a starter, ACL & MCL injury last year in preseason missed entire year).

And let's face it, these are the Falcons we're talking about. Whatever QB they draft is destined to become the next Joey Harrington.

Kodos · 03-05-2008, 02:33 PM

Was Steve Bartkowski the last good throwing quarterback that Atlanta had? I mean, besides Brett Favre.

ISiddiqui · 03-05-2008, 05:12 PM

Chris Chandler wasn't bad when healthy (admittedly that was a very rare thing).

ISiddiqui · 03-05-2008, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

So, this leaves the Falcons with Chris Redman and DJ Shockley?

Ouch.

Edit: Then again the adding Joey Harrington to that duo really doesn't improve things.

It's ok. They plan to lure Brett Favre out of retirement

.

st.cronin · 03-05-2008, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Probably. But I can't see that going all that well. I mean, he's got to be the starter by Game 4, no?

Game 1, seemingly. Although Daunte Culpepper is still available, right?

Danny · 03-05-2008, 10:39 PM

After seeing a couple of the contract breakdowns of the Raiders acquisitions, I think both the media and fans get way too carried away with initial contract numbers. Saying someone signed for X amount of years and X amount of dollars really is not an accurate way to evaluate anything in the NFL because of the lack of most of the money being guaranteed.

A couple examples. Kwame Harris signed a 3 year 16 million dollar deal yesterday. Seemingly too much for someone who was not a good starter with the 49ers. Well, his contract actually equates to a 1 year deal for 3 million. None of the money in year two or three is guaranteed, so if he turns it around they can restructure and keep him, if he busts they can cut him with very little financial harm done.

Javon Walker signed a 6 year, 50 million with 16 million guaranteed. His contract actually equates to a 2 year deal worth 16 million. The signing bonus is 6 million and his salaries in year one and two are guaranteed at 5 million a piece taking care of all of the guaranteed money. Is he still overpaid at 8 million a year for two seasons? Most likely, but its still a more reasonable deal. I don't know the breakdown, but its probably similar with Tommy Kelly and Gibril Wilson.

I'm not trying to evaluate these signings, I just happen to follow this team, so I know more specifics. I would guess that most of the contracts signed by other players with other teams are similar.

My point is that free agent signings should be evaluated by the talent a teams adds and the needs they address. the uproar from individuals over money that will most likely never even be seen by the player is ridiculous.

Brownkeg8 · 03-06-2008, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny

After seeing a couple of the contract breakdowns of the Raiders acquisitions, I think both the media and fans get way too carried away with initial contract numbers. Saying someone signed for X amount of years and X amount of dollars really is not an accurate way to evaluate anything in the NFL because of the lack of most of the money being guaranteed.

A couple examples. Kwame Harris signed a 3 year 16 million dollar deal yesterday. Seemingly too much for someone who was not a good starter with the 49ers. Well, his contract actually equates to a 1 year deal for 3 million. None of the money in year two or three is guaranteed, so if he turns it around they can restructure and keep him, if he busts they can cut him with very little financial harm done.

Javon Walker signed a 6 year, 50 million with 16 million guaranteed. His contract actually equates to a 2 year deal worth 16 million. The signing bonus is 6 million and his salaries in year one and two are guaranteed at 5 million a piece taking care of all of the guaranteed money. Is he still overpaid at 8 million a year for two seasons? Most likely, but its still a more reasonable deal. I don't know the breakdown, but its probably similar with Tommy Kelly and Gibril Wilson.

I'm not trying to evaluate these signings, I just happen to follow this team, so I know more specifics. I would guess that most of the contracts signed by other players with other teams are similar.

My point is that free agent signings should be evaluated by the talent a teams adds and the needs they address. the uproar from individuals over money that will most likely never even be seen by the player is ridiculous.

very true- good write up

Dr. Sak · 03-06-2008, 02:03 PM

I just heard that the Eagles cut Takeo Spikes.

Logan · 03-06-2008, 08:55 PM

Pretty funny read:

2008 NFL Movie Character Mock Draft

Warhammer · 03-06-2008, 09:42 PM

Didn't the Falcons have Chris Miller too for a few seasons in the mid-90s?

Coffee Warlord · 03-07-2008, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Pretty funny read:

2008 NFL Movie Character Mock Draft

Heh. And from that, on a whim, I looked up the girl who played Becky from Little Giants on IMDB, to see if she got hot. Answer: Yes.

Logan · 03-07-2008, 09:34 AM

Hmm. Seconded. Not too bad there, Icebox.

SirFozzie · 03-07-2008, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bsak16

I just heard that the Eagles cut Takeo Spikes.

Love to have him on the Pats, mind you

Dr. Sak · 03-07-2008, 09:44 AM

I liked him but he has been injury prone the past couple of years.

johnnyshaka · 03-07-2008, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Love to have him on the Pats, mind you

Is he old enough to play LB for the Pats yet?

Dr. Sak · 03-07-2008, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Heh. And from that, on a whim, I looked up the girl who played Becky from Little Giants on IMDB, to see if she got hot. Answer: Yes.

In the words of Tyrone Biggums...gawh damn!

JonInMiddleGA · 03-07-2008, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warhammer

Didn't the Falcons have Chris Miller too for a few seasons in the mid-90s?

Yep, one of their better QB draft picks actually (which says something about the rest of them).

tucker rocky · 03-07-2008, 05:02 PM

Dallas shopping TO, Raiders intrerested, possibly the 1st round pick in upcoming draft from Oakland to Dallas?!?

TazFTW · 03-07-2008, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tucker rocky

Dallas shopping TO, Raiders intrerested, possibly the 1st round pick in upcoming draft from Oakland to Dallas?!?

Say what?

Swaggs · 03-07-2008, 05:35 PM

TO is 1st round talent, but about 6th round reliability.

So, he is probably only able to fetch something in between. Of course, it is the Raiders...

Quote:

Originally Posted by tucker rocky

Dallas shopping TO, Raiders intrerested, possibly the 1st round pick in upcoming draft from Oakland to Dallas?!?

miami_fan · 03-07-2008, 08:49 PM

Julius Jones to the Seahawks.

johnnyshaka · 03-07-2008, 10:50 PM

Hmmm...JJ, TJ, MoMo, and Shaun Alexander. That's a pretty crowded backfield unless Holmgren is going to breakout the Wishbone.

Danny · 03-07-2008, 11:53 PM

Alexander is gone.

stevew · 03-08-2008, 12:00 AM

I wonder where Shaun will end up? I'd think somewhere like Detroit or Houston could use him. Maybe the Jets or Cardinals as well.

tucker rocky · 03-08-2008, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by tucker rocky

Dallas shopping TO, Raiders intrerested, possibly the 1st round pick in upcoming draft from Oakland to Dallas?!?

Quote:

Originally Posted by TazFTW

Say what?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

Uhh... is there a link? Because that sounds preposterous. You think Moss tanked it in Oakland?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swaggs

TO is 1st round talent, but about 6th round reliability.

So, he is probably only able to fetch something in between. Of course, it is the Raiders...

Just kidding folks.

tucker rocky · 03-08-2008, 06:45 AM

I had to post that about TO, since the Raiders seem to be making boneheaded deals lately.

03-04-2008, 05:12 PM	#351
Travis Pro Rookie Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Canada eh	I'm curious how the Duckett signing filters down roster wise for Seattle. I'm assuming this might mean the end of Maurice Morris (with Weaver filling in his role of a receiver out of the backfield). Either way, should go a long ways to helping out their short yardage percentage which was awful last season. __________________ "I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." - Rogers Hornsby Last edited by Travis : 03-04-2008 at 05:13 PM.

03-04-2008, 09:50 PM	#353
Mustang Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wisconsin	Raiders shell out $55 million for Javon Walker with $16 million guaranteed. $105 million with roughly $34 million in guaranteed money for 2 guys with leg issues. Nice use of $. Just because you found $100 million under the couch cushions Al doesn't mean you mean to spend it. __________________ You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its...

03-05-2008, 03:36 AM	#356
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Raiders also signed T Kwame Harris who was a bust with the 49ers. The massive amounts of money aside, I'm happy the Raiders are at least putting in the effort to try improve the team. Will it work out? Who knows, but after the last five years why not try something. The organization likely won't be able to get back to where it once was until Al Davis is no longer the controlling owner, but perhaps throwing all this money around will lead to a little bit of luck and a decent season or two until then. Bottom line is they had to overpay to bring in talent because of the current reputation of the franchise, so I'd rather overpay and maybe be competitive and win 7 or 8 games. Last edited by Danny : 03-05-2008 at 03:49 AM.

03-05-2008, 09:29 AM	#360
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Oh I don't mind it. Booker has prolly got a couple good years left in him, and has better hands than Moose or Berrian. Not a real deep threat, but a servicable vet possession guy. I just find it increasingly disgusting that they haven't done ANYTHING in free agency to date to alleviate the gaping holes all over the field. Last edited by Coffee Warlord : 03-05-2008 at 09:30 AM.

03-05-2008, 09:47 AM	#362
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	I will miss Brian Griese. He was one of the Lions' MVPs last year. He was pretty much directly responsible for 2 of their 7 wins. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

03-05-2008, 08:43 AM	#358
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Yessir, the Bears alleviate their WR problems by signing.......wait for it.....Marty Booker. 2 year deal.

03-05-2008, 09:03 AM	#359
rjolley College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Roseville, CA	I don't mind that signing so much if they didn't overspend and they draft a good prospect.

03-05-2008, 09:43 AM	#361
rjolley College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Roseville, CA	Yeah, I'm suprised they didn't go after Turner and Faneca. Getting a pick for Griese was excellent, though.

03-05-2008, 10:25 AM	#364
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	People seem to think the NFC North is there for the taking now, with Favre retiring. Guys on the NFL Network yesterday seemed to think the Packers are .500 at best now. Of course they said that last year too.... __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

03-05-2008, 11:01 AM	#367
B & B College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: A sports era long ago when everything didnt require a Nike logo	I think that Tampa Bay could take this division, if it was the year 2000. __________________ Nobody cares about Kyle Orton because he's black. -PT

03-05-2008, 01:43 PM	#369
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Falcons released Joey Harrington. We can assume he is now highly coveted by Tampa Bay Although he would be an upgrade in Chicago as well. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis Last edited by JonInMiddleGA : 03-05-2008 at 01:43 PM.

03-05-2008, 01:47 PM	#371
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	So, this leaves the Falcons with Chris Redman and DJ Shockley? Ouch. Edit: Then again the adding Joey Harrington to that duo really doesn't improve things. __________________ *Steve Yzerman: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons). Last edited by Honolulu_Blue : 03-05-2008 at 01:47 PM.*

03-05-2008, 01:49 PM	#373
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Too bad Petrino didn't stay...he'd be able to draft Brohm.

03-05-2008, 02:33 PM	#376
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Was Steve Bartkowski the last good throwing quarterback that Atlanta had? I mean, besides Brett Favre. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

03-05-2008, 05:12 PM	#377
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Chris Chandler wasn't bad when healthy (admittedly that was a very rare thing). __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

03-05-2008, 10:39 PM	#380
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	After seeing a couple of the contract breakdowns of the Raiders acquisitions, I think both the media and fans get way too carried away with initial contract numbers. Saying someone signed for X amount of years and X amount of dollars really is not an accurate way to evaluate anything in the NFL because of the lack of most of the money being guaranteed. A couple examples. Kwame Harris signed a 3 year 16 million dollar deal yesterday. Seemingly too much for someone who was not a good starter with the 49ers. Well, his contract actually equates to a 1 year deal for 3 million. None of the money in year two or three is guaranteed, so if he turns it around they can restructure and keep him, if he busts they can cut him with very little financial harm done. Javon Walker signed a 6 year, 50 million with 16 million guaranteed. His contract actually equates to a 2 year deal worth 16 million. The signing bonus is 6 million and his salaries in year one and two are guaranteed at 5 million a piece taking care of all of the guaranteed money. Is he still overpaid at 8 million a year for two seasons? Most likely, but its still a more reasonable deal. I don't know the breakdown, but its probably similar with Tommy Kelly and Gibril Wilson. I'm not trying to evaluate these signings, I just happen to follow this team, so I know more specifics. I would guess that most of the contracts signed by other players with other teams are similar. My point is that free agent signings should be evaluated by the talent a teams adds and the needs they address. the uproar from individuals over money that will most likely never even be seen by the player is ridiculous. Last edited by Danny : 03-05-2008 at 10:42 PM.

03-06-2008, 02:03 PM	#382
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	I just heard that the Eagles cut Takeo Spikes.

03-06-2008, 08:55 PM	#383
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Pretty funny read: 2008 NFL Movie Character Mock Draft

03-06-2008, 09:42 PM	#384
Warhammer Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dayton, OH	Didn't the Falcons have Chris Miller too for a few seasons in the mid-90s?

03-07-2008, 09:34 AM	#386
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Hmm. Seconded. Not too bad there, Icebox.

03-07-2008, 09:44 AM	#388
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	I liked him but he has been injury prone the past couple of years.

03-07-2008, 05:02 PM	#392
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	Dallas shopping TO, Raiders intrerested, possibly the 1st round pick in upcoming draft from Oakland to Dallas?!?

03-07-2008, 08:49 PM	#395
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Julius Jones to the Seahawks. __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

03-07-2008, 10:50 PM	#396
johnnyshaka College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Edmonton, AB	Hmmm...JJ, TJ, MoMo, and Shaun Alexander. That's a pretty crowded backfield unless Holmgren is going to breakout the Wishbone.

03-07-2008, 11:53 PM	#397
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Alexander is gone.

03-08-2008, 12:00 AM	#398
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I wonder where Shaun will end up? I'd think somewhere like Detroit or Houston could use him. Maybe the Jets or Cardinals as well.

03-08-2008, 06:45 AM	#400
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	I had to post that about TO, since the Raiders seem to be making boneheaded deals lately.

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