The OFFICIAL 2007 NHL Offseason Thread - Page 8

DeToxRox · 07-01-2007, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Briere to Philly. 8 years, $52 million ($6.5 million a year).

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=212425&hubname=nhl

10 million this year for Bre, outrageous.

Honolulu_Blue · 07-01-2007, 03:04 PM

Oh my...

Brian Rafalski is a Wing.

(Maybe).

No. He is. 5 years, $30 million.

I need to think about this.

DeToxRox · 07-01-2007, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Oh my...

Brian Rafalski is a Wing.

(Maybe).

No. He is. 5 years, $30 million.

I need to think about this.

Source?

I trust you HB,only ask tho because the HF die hards haven't posted it yet.

Pyser · 07-01-2007, 03:15 PM

wow thats steep for rafalski.

this better free up enough money for gomez now for the devils.

and they better sign martin to a long term deal, cuz we have no one left on defense...

Dr. Sak · 07-01-2007, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Source?

I trust you HB,only ask tho because the HF die hards haven't posted it yet.

TSN has it up.

Draft Dodger · 07-01-2007, 03:37 PM

I'm not the biggest Rafalski fan in the world, but, from Detroit's standpoint, it sure looks good to upgrade from Schneider to Rafalski.

Honolulu_Blue · 07-01-2007, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Source?

I trust you HB,only ask tho because the HF die hards haven't posted it yet.

No problem at all. I didn't have time to post all the info, wife just go back from a trip while I was posting it.

That is a lot for Rafalski. Long term too. I know he's good with puck and a local guy, but I haven't watched enough Devils' games to know just how good he is and if he's worth that kind of long term money.

Psyer? Pumpy? Others?

RPI-Fan · 07-01-2007, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

No problem at all. I didn't have time to post all the info, wife just go back from a trip while I was posting it.

That is a lot for Rafalski. Long term too. I know he's good with puck and a local guy, but I haven't watched enough Devils' games to know just how good he is and if he's worth that kind of long term money.

Psyer? Pumpy? Others?

He's small, but other than that is pretty great at everything. I'm surprised it wasn't a bigger deal when it became clear that he wouldn't re-sign with the Devils. For equal money, I'd take Rafa over Schneider without a doubt. He doesn't get hurt and never squawks.

Draft Dodger · 07-01-2007, 03:54 PM

so far, the 9 UFA's we know salary for have averaged a 46% raise ($1,212,500) ranging from Zednik's 14% pay cut to McLean's 133% raise

http://inthecheapseats.com/avs07/fa.htm

Chubby · 07-01-2007, 03:54 PM

Gee, the lockout did wonders to keeping salaries down.

I love Briere but I wouldn't have wanted the Sabres to pay $10 mil for him this season.

Draft Dodger · 07-01-2007, 03:55 PM

what exactly is a no movement clause?

RPI-Fan · 07-01-2007, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chubby

Gee, the lockout did wonders to keeping salaries down.

I love Briere but I wouldn't have wanted the Sabres to pay $10 mil for him this season.

The lockout wasn't intended to keep salaries down, per se. It was intended to ensure that they don't grow more than revenues. So the lockout is working exactly like it was supposed to.

RPI-Fan · 07-01-2007, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

what exactly is a no movement clause?

This comes from the forum on hockeybuzz.com, but seems plausible enough...

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No, a no movement clause means McCabe can't be traded or demoted or moved to any other team without McCabe's permission. He cannot be put on waivers because no one would be allowed to claim him, thus causing him to move.

The only thing the Leafs can do without McCabe's permission is buy him out.

Dr. Sak · 07-01-2007, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

what exactly is a no movement clause?

I'm guessing a no trade with a clause that says he cant be sent down either.

Suburban Rhythm · 07-01-2007, 04:10 PM

Penguins re-sign Ryan Whitney to a 6 year, $24M extension.

Seems a little high now, but they have cap space. And in years 5 and 6 of that deal, $4M will be a steal.

Dr. Sak · 07-01-2007, 04:15 PM

I think that was a smart move by the Pens.

Draft Dodger · 07-01-2007, 04:18 PM

THORNTON TO THE BRUINS!!!!!

...oh, Shawn Thornton

Pyser · 07-01-2007, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

No problem at all. I didn't have time to post all the info, wife just go back from a trip while I was posting it.

That is a lot for Rafalski. Long term too. I know he's good with puck and a local guy, but I haven't watched enough Devils' games to know just how good he is and if he's worth that kind of long term money.

Psyer? Pumpy? Others?

well, he's healthy, for one. he plays 82 games a year. and for his size, he's quite a good defender. he can handle most forwards who outweigh him by a lot. he is a fairly good skater. and his shot, mostly on the pp, is very deflectable, which is where he gets a good amount of his points from. and he can kill penalties.

his downside, though, is his turnovers. he doesnt have a great breakout pass (many go for icing), or are just intercepted up the middle. he handled the puck pretty horribly against the sens in the playoffs.

all in all, it's probably a nice upgrade for detroit, and rafalski should be very excited to be playing at home. but $6m when he's 38 could be a problem...

bhlloy · 07-01-2007, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bsak16

The Anaheim Ducks have signed defenseman Mathieu Schneider to a two-year deal paying him $5.5 million and $5.75 million.

Just got back and saw this. I guess we needed an offensive defenseman, but there has got to be cheaper out there. Now if Selanne retires, we really could have used the space under the cap for a scorer.

Simms · 07-01-2007, 06:04 PM

Semi-speculative stuff ...

Oilers have apparently traded Jason Smith to the Flyers. One rumor had Smith and Lupul for Pitkanen and Geoff Sanderson. No confirmation other than the fact that Smith has been traded.

Simms · 07-01-2007, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

Just got back and saw this. I guess we needed an offensive defenseman, but there has got to be cheaper out there. Now if Selanne retires, we really could have used the space under the cap for a scorer.

From a Ducks press release earlier ... take it for what it's worth.

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“Scott Niedermayer has informed me that he is leaning toward retirement,” said Burke. “Typical of his character and leadership, he made the call this morning in order to allow us to make alternative plans in the event he does not return. Although he has not retired and would be welcomed back, we felt adding another top NHL defenseman was critical to defending our championship. Mathieu Schneider fits into that category and will be a great addition to our team.”

Simms · 07-01-2007, 06:06 PM

Other substantive (ie, non-Eklund) rumors ... Blake to Toronto, Ryan Smyth to the Avs. Supposedly both are very close.

Logan · 07-01-2007, 06:07 PM

Gomez to the Rangers. 7 years, $49 million.

Draft Dodger · 07-01-2007, 06:11 PM

raises are at 51% right now
http://inthecheapseats.com/avs07/fa.htm

Draft Dodger · 07-01-2007, 06:16 PM

dola...what a wild day

Simms · 07-01-2007, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Simms

Oilers have apparently traded Jason Smith to the Flyers. One rumor had Smith and Lupul for Pitkanen and Geoff Sanderson. No confirmation other than the fact that Smith has been traded.

This is now confirmed as written, with the addition of the Flyers' 3rd going to Edmonton.

Simms · 07-01-2007, 06:22 PM

Dater (the Denver Post writer who ripped ESPN -- see a couple pages back) has backed off the Smyth rumor.

Simms · 07-01-2007, 06:39 PM

Jason Blake to the Leafs ... 5 years, $20m.

Simms · 07-01-2007, 06:48 PM

Sportsnet reporting that the Rangers have also signed Drury.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/artic...01_162329_4180

Milton · 07-01-2007, 06:50 PM

Gomez leaves behind a half empty arena, the prospect of playing his whole career in near anonymity and a team on the downswing (aging Brodeur) for a resurgent Ranger team that people actually give a shit about. Win-Win.

DeToxRox · 07-01-2007, 06:51 PM

NHL free agency has Maximum Football coding.

Draft Dodger · 07-01-2007, 06:52 PM

Drury, Gomez and Jagr? geez.

Logan · 07-01-2007, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milton

Gomez leaves behind a half empty arena, the prospect of playing his whole career in near anonymity and a team on the downswing (aging Brodeur) for a resurgent Ranger team that people actually give a shit about. Win-Win.

Everything's true except the first part.

Dr. Sak · 07-01-2007, 06:56 PM

I hope Joni Pitkanen works out for the Oilers. I always liked him but he never really had any fire under his ass. Hopefully a change of scenery helps it.

Chief Rum · 07-01-2007, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

Just got back and saw this. I guess we needed an offensive defenseman, but there has got to be cheaper out there. Now if Selanne retires, we really could have used the space under the cap for a scorer.

If Teemu retires, let's bring back Paul.

Draft Dodger · 07-01-2007, 07:04 PM

for his 51 point season, Viktor Kozlov triples his salary - from $865,000 to $2,500,000

Draft Dodger · 07-01-2007, 07:07 PM

16 players, $23 million in salary increases.

RPI-Fan · 07-01-2007, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

for his 51 point season, Viktor Kozlov triples his salary - from $865,000 to $2,500,000

To be fair, that could be one sick line/PP with Ovechkin-Kozlov-Semin.

Milton · 07-01-2007, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Everything's true except the first part.

'tis all true.

RPI-Fan · 07-01-2007, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milton

'tis all true.

I think the idea was that he's moving from one half-empty arena to another...

Draft Dodger · 07-01-2007, 07:42 PM

Hannan to the Avs.
I'm probably one of the few Avs fan not to be all that hot for Hannan; I'm just not sure he's the best fit for the existing squad. Still, $4.5 million seems lower than he could have gotten.

AND the better news is that it doesn't leave any room for Sheldon Souray...heavily rumored to be coming here.

Dr. Sak · 07-01-2007, 07:54 PM

Anaheim Ducks's defenceman Scott Niedermayer Is about to announce he is retiring from the NHL.

Karim · 07-01-2007, 07:55 PM

I'm a fan of Hannan and hate seeing him go to the Avs. I think he's a bargain at $4.5 million. Now I just hope the rumours of Smyth to the Avs don't come true.

RPI-Fan · 07-01-2007, 07:56 PM

The Islanders board is in full meltdown right now.

Chief Rum · 07-01-2007, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bsak16

Anaheim Ducks's defenceman Scott Niedermayer Is about to announce he is retiring from the NHL.

Yup, saw that running across TSN's web site. I'm sad to see him go, but I can't really fault him for the decision.

DeToxRox · 07-01-2007, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

The Islanders board is in full meltdown right now.

Which one? HF? If so, check out the Sabres, it is great reading.

Draft Dodger · 07-01-2007, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

The Islanders board is in full meltdown right now.

wait until they see their disgusting new jerseys

Draft Dodger · 07-01-2007, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Karim

I'm a fan of Hannan and hate seeing him go to the Avs. I think he's a bargain at $4.5 million. Now I just hope the rumours of Smyth to the Avs don't come true.

I had him pegged around 5.5 million - compared to the Rafalski and especially the Schneider contract, 4.5 seems pretty nice.

Smyth has been rumored to be coming to Colorado since well before the trade deadline. Wherever he's going, I wish he'd hurry up and get there.

RPI-Fan · 07-01-2007, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

wait until they see their disgusting new jerseys

Do you have a link? Or have they not been released yet? Where have you seen them?

Draft Dodger · 07-01-2007, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

Do you have a link? Or have they not been released yet? Where have you seen them?

http://www.scottcoates.com/NYI2008.jpg

it's been floating around for about 2 weeks now. the pic is supposedly legit, in that it was taken somewhere inside the Wang Center in mid-May (obviously, before they decided to axe Mr Yashin). Whether it depicts the new jersey, a rejected prototype, or something else, no one really knows. it's not like the Islanders aren't known for putting gaudy jerseys on the ice.

Too bad...the early 80s jerseys were gorgeous.

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07-01-2007, 03:37 PM	#356
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	I'm not the biggest Rafalski fan in the world, but, from Detroit's standpoint, it sure looks good to upgrade from Schneider to Rafalski. __________________ Mile High Hockey

07-01-2007, 03:54 PM	#359
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	so far, the 9 UFA's we know salary for have averaged a 46% raise ($1,212,500) ranging from Zednik's 14% pay cut to McLean's 133% raise http://inthecheapseats.com/avs07/fa.htm __________________ Mile High Hockey Last edited by Draft Dodger : 07-01-2007 at 04:07 PM.

07-01-2007, 03:55 PM	#361
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	what exactly is a no movement clause? __________________ Mile High Hockey

07-01-2007, 04:10 PM	#365
Suburban Rhythm Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pittsburgh	Penguins re-sign Ryan Whitney to a 6 year, $24M extension. Seems a little high now, but they have cap space. And in years 5 and 6 of that deal, $4M will be a steal. __________________ "Do you guys play fast tempos with odd time signatures?" "Yeah" "Cool!!"

07-01-2007, 03:15 PM	#354
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	wow thats steep for rafalski. this better free up enough money for gomez now for the devils. and they better sign martin to a long term deal, cuz we have no one left on defense...

07-01-2007, 03:54 PM	#360
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	Gee, the lockout did wonders to keeping salaries down. I love Briere but I wouldn't have wanted the Sabres to pay $10 mil for him this season.

07-01-2007, 04:15 PM	#366
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	I think that was a smart move by the Pens.

07-01-2007, 04:18 PM	#367
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	THORNTON TO THE BRUINS!!!!! ...oh, Shawn Thornton __________________ Mile High Hockey

07-01-2007, 06:04 PM	#370
Simms FOBL Commish Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Team Radii	Semi-speculative stuff ... Oilers have apparently traded Jason Smith to the Flyers. One rumor had Smith and Lupul for Pitkanen and Geoff Sanderson. No confirmation other than the fact that Smith has been traded. __________________ FOBL Commissioner 34 Productions Web Design

07-01-2007, 06:06 PM	#372
Simms FOBL Commish Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Team Radii	Other substantive (ie, non-Eklund) rumors ... Blake to Toronto, Ryan Smyth to the Avs. Supposedly both are very close. __________________ FOBL Commissioner 34 Productions Web Design Last edited by Simms : 07-01-2007 at 06:07 PM.

07-01-2007, 06:07 PM	#373
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Gomez to the Rangers. 7 years, $49 million.

07-01-2007, 06:11 PM	#374
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	raises are at 51% right now http://inthecheapseats.com/avs07/fa.htm __________________ Mile High Hockey

07-01-2007, 06:16 PM	#375
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	dola...what a wild day __________________ Mile High Hockey

07-01-2007, 06:22 PM	#377
Simms FOBL Commish Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Team Radii	Dater (the Denver Post writer who ripped ESPN -- see a couple pages back) has backed off the Smyth rumor. __________________ FOBL Commissioner 34 Productions Web Design

07-01-2007, 06:39 PM	#378
Simms FOBL Commish Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Team Radii	Jason Blake to the Leafs ... 5 years, $20m. __________________ FOBL Commissioner 34 Productions Web Design

07-01-2007, 06:48 PM	#379
Simms FOBL Commish Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Team Radii	Sportsnet reporting that the Rangers have also signed Drury. http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/artic...01_162329_4180 __________________ FOBL Commissioner 34 Productions Web Design

07-01-2007, 06:50 PM	#380
Milton n00b Join Date: Dec 2005	Gomez leaves behind a half empty arena, the prospect of playing his whole career in near anonymity and a team on the downswing (aging Brodeur) for a resurgent Ranger team that people actually give a shit about. Win-Win.

07-01-2007, 06:51 PM	#381
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	NHL free agency has Maximum Football coding.

07-01-2007, 06:52 PM	#382
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	Drury, Gomez and Jagr? geez. __________________ Mile High Hockey

07-01-2007, 06:56 PM	#384
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	I hope Joni Pitkanen works out for the Oilers. I always liked him but he never really had any fire under his ass. Hopefully a change of scenery helps it.

07-01-2007, 07:04 PM	#386
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	for his 51 point season, Viktor Kozlov triples his salary - from $865,000 to $2,500,000 __________________ Mile High Hockey

07-01-2007, 07:07 PM	#387
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	16 players, $23 million in salary increases. __________________ Mile High Hockey

07-01-2007, 07:42 PM	#391
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	Hannan to the Avs. I'm probably one of the few Avs fan not to be all that hot for Hannan; I'm just not sure he's the best fit for the existing squad. Still, $4.5 million seems lower than he could have gotten. AND the better news is that it doesn't leave any room for Sheldon Souray...heavily rumored to be coming here. __________________ Mile High Hockey

07-01-2007, 07:54 PM	#392
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Anaheim Ducks's defenceman Scott Niedermayer Is about to announce he is retiring from the NHL.

07-01-2007, 07:55 PM	#393
Karim College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Calgary	I'm a fan of Hannan and hate seeing him go to the Avs. I think he's a bargain at $4.5 million. Now I just hope the rumours of Smyth to the Avs don't come true.

07-01-2007, 07:56 PM	#394
RPI-Fan Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Troy, NY	The Islanders board is in full meltdown right now. __________________ Quis custodiets ipsos custodes?

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