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Old 07-14-2005, 03:30 PM   #351
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I'm really starting to enjoy the passing more now. If you can tell your receiver is going to be open based on where the defenders are and throw right before or as he makes his cut it is working really well for me. This has always been the strategy or course, but last year's super DB's would find a way to make the play anyway. This year feels a lot mroe realistic.

Main problem I have right now is that I've yet to play a close game. In my Miss dynasty I've blown out three teams: Vandy, Memphis and The Citadel, with the Citadel being a 99-21 win! The other two games were wins of 50 popint margins or more. I also played #8 Tennessee and was whomped soundly 77-24. I'm loving the game, I just hope it doesn't stay too easy and too hard. A competitive game would be nice. =)
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Old 07-14-2005, 03:39 PM   #352
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Recruiting is improved too and more realistic. Smaller schools (like mu UNLV dynasty) manage to snag up to three four and even a Five star player each season from the big schools.
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Old 07-14-2005, 03:44 PM   #353
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How exactly does the in-season recruitng work? I'll choose 12 or so guys to targer during the year, and each week I adjust the percentage of time spent on that recruit, but is that it? How do you schedule visits? How do you interact with the recruits during visits? Can you pitch them anything (i.e. Prestige, Coaching Style, etc?)
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Old 07-14-2005, 03:49 PM   #354
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Is there a way to turn off the "auto-play" feature during the game? That is, when I start a passing play and I don't hit a button, he'll automatically throw to some random receiver. I got used to letting my QB auto-drop before I took over. But in NCAA it auto-drops, then auto-throws. Do I just need to get into the habit of doing the drop back manually to avoid this problem?

The Easypass feature is on by default. Just go to setting and change passing mode to normal. Then you'll have to hit X to hike the ball and X to bring up your receivers.

Also, what button brings down the passing icons and lets the QB run the ball?
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Old 07-14-2005, 03:50 PM   #355
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Also, what button brings down the passing icons and lets the QB run the ball?

Nothing - you don't have to pull the passing icons down now, just run with it. Sprint works with the icons up.
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Old 07-14-2005, 03:50 PM   #356
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Either black or white on the Xbox. Can't remember which exactly.
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Old 07-14-2005, 03:52 PM   #357
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How exactly does the in-season recruitng work? I'll choose 12 or so guys to targer during the year, and each week I adjust the percentage of time spent on that recruit, but is that it? How do you schedule visits? How do you interact with the recruits during visits? Can you pitch them anything (i.e. Prestige, Coaching Style, etc?)

Essentially, that's it. You'll be top-8, then they'll all cut their list first to top 5, then to top 3. Any of those points you can be left off this list, and you're out for that recruit.

The week they cut to top 3, you have the chance to schedule a visit and make a pitch. You can pitch them any of the standard ones - Prestige, Style, etc. Sometimes you'll have feedback about what they like before you make the pitch - not sure yet what causes it.

Just be sure you check/adjust the screen weekly. You have to actually look at the recruit in order to schedule the visit.

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Old 07-14-2005, 03:54 PM   #358
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Either black or white on the Xbox. Can't remember which exactly.

My fault. Those are the pump fake and throw away buttons.
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Old 07-14-2005, 04:17 PM   #359
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My fault. Those are the pump fake and throw away buttons.

Yeah, I have the PS2 version. I can't tell you how many times I accidently threw the ball away.
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Old 07-14-2005, 04:22 PM   #360
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Essentially, that's it. You'll be top-8, then they'll all cut their list first to top 5, then to top 3. Any of those points you can be left off this list, and you're out for that recruit.

The week they cut to top 3, you have the chance to schedule a visit and make a pitch. You can pitch them any of the standard ones - Prestige, Style, etc. Sometimes you'll have feedback about what they like before you make the pitch - not sure yet what causes it.

Just be sure you check/adjust the screen weekly. You have to actually look at the recruit in order to schedule the visit.

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Yup. That's a pretty good description. I'm on my second season, and therefore my second iteration of in-season recruiting.

Here are some thoughts:

* When I pick my twelve, I only expect to go after 5 or 6 of them actively. Therefore I tend to pick the areas where I have the most needs and concentrate on them, targeting 2 or 3 players from the same position.

* The above strategy allows me to go for the slightly out of my league player, the player who I probably should go for, and the insurance policy player.

* After the first week I weed out the ones that I'm behind on and focus on the ones where I think I've got a good shot or am in the running. Those that I'm not pursuing will get 0 recruiting points unless I'm still in the running a week or two later.

* The earlier you can determine who you legitimately have a shot at signing, the sooner you can boost the recruiting points and gain an advantage. Early on the AI is most likely spreading points around to all 12 recruits, or at least 8 or 10. By focusing on 5 or 6 you can spend 18 or 20 points on each target and get an early edge.

* Once you make a recruits list of 3 and can offer a visit, try to schedule it in the next few weeks. If you don't they may visit other schools before they get to yours and pick them over you. Also, if you schedule it way out, they feel neglected (as EaglesFan posted).

* I haven't had much success in trying to predict what pitch will work. In NCAA 2004 you could narrow down choices to some degree. If he was looking at schools near his home, location could be important. If he was looking at big name schools, prestige could be important. If he is a JUCO player, playing time was often a factor as they don't want to ride the pines when they only have a few years left. So far those techniques don't SEEM to work.

* If I've have two players who are similar that I'm interested in, I'll go with the one from my pipeline state.

* In the middle stages if I have a few recruiting points to burn, I'll scout a player to see if he will be a discipline problem, or if he seems like he'll have good potential for development. If I'm behind other schools and not gaining ground, a bad disicipline problem will often lead me to cut bait and focus on other players.

EDIT: Celeval mentioned that sometimes you get feedback about what pitch might work with a particular recruit. I wonder if that might be tied to your pipeline states? Would make sense. You've got ties with that high school coach and he can feed you some insider info. That would be pretty neat if that were the case. I'm at work, so I can't verify. Perhaps someone else can.
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Old 07-14-2005, 04:37 PM   #361
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How exactly does the in-season recruitng work? I'll choose 12 or so guys to targer during the year, and each week I adjust the percentage of time spent on that recruit, but is that it? How do you schedule visits? How do you interact with the recruits during visits? Can you pitch them anything (i.e. Prestige, Coaching Style, etc?)
Toward the end of the season there will be a paper Icon right next to the players names. You can schedule the games yby going to the players card.
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Old 07-14-2005, 04:39 PM   #362
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Toward the end of the season there will be a paper Icon right next to the players names. You can schedule the games yby going to the players card.

Yeah, and when you schedule the visit is when you'll be able to choose which pitch you'd like to make.
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Old 07-14-2005, 04:40 PM   #363
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Just played my first game on XBOX vs CPU.

OSU (me) vs. Miami (OH)

Really enjoyed it on AA. I won 31-17, Ginn was a beast. He had a 18-yard reverse which set up a TD and a 38-yard reception which also lead to a score. AJ Hawk was dominant as well, I like this.

Maybe I've missed the dicussion, but at the end of the game when Miami (OH) was running no huddle they ran the same run play over and over. Anyone else see this?
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Old 07-14-2005, 04:45 PM   #364
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In my mind I must have confused the RFTH features with the new Madden put-yourself-in-the-game feature. Am I missing something or is the only difference between RFTH and a dynasty that you are player driven instead of coach drive? You still call the plays, play QB, etc.? I was thinking that you only controlled your player.

Also, for anyone who has played around more than one week with RFTH features, do you ever get to do more than one drill per position? I was a RB and the only drill I could do was the Oklahoma drill. Does that change when you advance past week one?

I'm also fuzzy on exiting the drills. I'm always asked if I'm sure I want to exit because I'll lose stats not saved -- but there is no option to save anything. Just a hitch in the system or am I crazy?
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Old 07-14-2005, 05:04 PM   #365
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He is playing for sure, so I don't think he would be angry if i answer for him ...
The game was ordered from tronix.com
A great site for selling games. I've done a lot of orders here too. Suggested

Cool, thanks Tara...
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Old 07-14-2005, 05:04 PM   #366
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Gamestop by my house has 8 copies. Fuck it. I'm buying it on the way home. I'll go ahead and sleep on the couch tonight (won't really bother me since the Xbox is in the living room, hehehe).
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Old 07-14-2005, 05:23 PM   #367
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Gamestop by my house has 8 copies. Fuck it. I'm buying it on the way home. I'll go ahead and sleep on the couch tonight (won't really bother me since the Xbox is in the living room, hehehe).

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Old 07-14-2005, 05:46 PM   #368
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The video dynasty that I had planned is on hold indefinitely. My internet access is gone at home. The provider will need to send a technician to my place, but nobody is going to be at home during the daytime until the middle of next week after I quit my job and my wife returns from out of town. I need to find out if they'll charge me a fee for performing the service call, also, because I'm not going to bring them out if they're going to charge me. I'm moving across the country in two weeks, and it's just not going to be worth it. Basically, if I can get a free and prompt visit from a technician, I'll get this going within a week. If I can't, it'll probably be at least three weeks, since I'll need to get all my stuff set up in Pennsylvania.
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Old 07-14-2005, 06:01 PM   #369
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I ordered from DVDPlanet also, and no sign of my game...
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Old 07-14-2005, 06:26 PM   #370
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Gamestop by my house has 8 copies. Fuck it. I'm buying it on the way home. I'll go ahead and sleep on the couch tonight (won't really bother me since the Xbox is in the living room, hehehe).

I was hoping you'd come around.

(glad my wife is at work)
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Old 07-14-2005, 06:28 PM   #371
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Of course, thats what I get for trying to save 10 bucks
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Old 07-14-2005, 06:44 PM   #372
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Of course, thats what I get for trying to save 10 bucks



Fry's store has it for 37.99.

do you have the store near you?
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Old 07-14-2005, 07:00 PM   #373
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Pitch Playing Time if the position is a need for you.
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Old 07-14-2005, 07:18 PM   #374
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If you ever play against NC State you better plan on keeping 8 men in to block, their DEs are freaks. I couldn't even run screens against them because one would get in so quick I would have to get rid of it early then the other one would just eat my RB for dinner.
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Old 07-14-2005, 07:20 PM   #375
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the CPU likes to call the same play over and over in no huddle.

anybody seeing this?
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Old 07-14-2005, 07:24 PM   #376
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the CPU likes to call the same play over and over in no huddle.

anybody seeing this?

I posted it above, I have seen this both times the CPU has run no-huddle. What makes it bad is they keep calling run plays.
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Old 07-14-2005, 07:37 PM   #377
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Fry's store has it for 37.99.

do you have the store near you?

Nah, and I am too lazy to drive around looking for it at that price. I dont mind waiting a week.
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Old 07-14-2005, 08:01 PM   #378
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why is deep passes easier than short passes?

it seems kinda easy to throw the deep passes. human and cpu teams.

or maybe i just suck
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Old 07-14-2005, 08:19 PM   #379
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why is deep passes easier than short passes?

it seems kinda easy to throw the deep passes. human and cpu teams.

or maybe i just suck

The key to stopping short passes is good pass coverage. The key to stopping deep passes is good pressure on the QB (get to the QB before the routes can develope). I also use 2 Man Cover defense a lot (the two safeties play deep zone coverage while everyone else is man coverage.

As for the Player getting too many deep passes, you may want to up the CPU's AI Awareness setting a few clicks (I play on AA difficulty and I think my CPU's AI Awareness setting is 75 right now). That seems to work good.
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Old 07-14-2005, 08:28 PM   #380
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sabotai

thanks for the tip.

i also think maybe qb accuracy slider if you lower it, makes it harder to complete deep passes a lot for human and cpu.

i know it did for Madden 2005.
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Old 07-14-2005, 08:35 PM   #381
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Embarassingly, I've had to lower my difficulty rating to varsity. After going down 27-0 (in the 1st quarter!) to UL Lafayette with Maryland, I'm just figuring out how awful I am. I don't remember thinking the game was this hard last year - I could have sworn I was on AA difficulty and I would easily get 8+ wins a season.

For some reason, I rarely find the holes when running the ball, and everytime I pass (even with a short drop) my offensive line misses someone and my QB gets buried. Whenever I run the option, I sub in my 90 speed quarterback, and yet a defensive lineman from the opposite side runs my QB down before he can get into position to pitch. I'm fumbling, giving up interceptions and huge play after huge play.

I really feel like a detriment to my team and I'm worried that my CPU teammates are planning for me to have an "accident" on the way to the stadium
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Old 07-14-2005, 08:37 PM   #382
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dola - one thing I noticed is the little menu that pops up in the top right-hand corner when you have the ball and time is running out in the half/game - the "spike the ball, hurry-up, call timeout" menu. Nice little touch.
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Old 07-14-2005, 08:40 PM   #383
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dola - one thing I noticed is the little menu that pops up in the top right-hand corner when you have the ball and time is running out in the half/game - the "spike the ball, hurry-up, call timeout" menu. Nice little touch.

You know, that little addition to the game is genius. You don't know how many times I paused the game with 2004 just to look at the manual to find the right buttons.
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Old 07-14-2005, 08:56 PM   #384
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You know, that little addition to the game is genius. You don't know how many times I paused the game with 2004 just to look at the manual to find the right buttons.


Agreed.

I learned my lesson. Don't delay bringing in a recruit you really want. I lost the top HB in the nation as he gave FSU a hard commit after visiting them in week 11. So much, for having him come for my biggest home game of the year in week 15 . If I don't get a top notch HB in the off-season recruiting, I could be set up for a big fall next year, I doubt I will be able to convince Bush not to go pro after this season. The good news is that I got my second recruit to sign, the top FB in the nation (although I'm not that impressed with his poor potential and low field awareness.)
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Old 07-14-2005, 09:01 PM   #385
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Agreed.

I learned my lesson. Don't delay bringing in a recruit you really want. I lost the top HB in the nation as he gave FSU a hard commit after visiting them in week 11. So much, for having him come for my biggest home game of the year in week 15 . If I don't get a top notch HB in the off-season recruiting, I could be set up for a big fall next year, I doubt I will be able to convince Bush not to go pro after this season. The good news is that I got my second recruit to sign, the top FB in the nation (although I'm not that impressed with his poor potential and low field awareness.)

That stinks! Although I wonder how you would do with a medicore RB?
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Old 07-14-2005, 09:04 PM   #386
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That stinks! Although I wonder how you would do with a medicore RB?
Right now, after 8 games, Bush has 2700 all purpose yards with 26 TD's. He is amazing

Bush is averaging about 160 rushing, 90 receiving, and 70 return yards per game
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Old 07-14-2005, 09:05 PM   #387
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That stinks! Although I wonder how you would do with a medicore RB?

Playing as Maryland, I have about 3 or 4 of them. It ain't pretty.
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Old 07-14-2005, 09:06 PM   #388
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Right now, after 8 games, Bush has 2700 all purpose yards with 26 TD's. He is amazing

I'm averaging about 160 rushing, 90 receiving, and 70 return yards per game

wow. i might try UCLA. i am a big fan of the pac ten. i love UCLA and USC.

West coast rules


what your record 8-0?

how many rushing attempts vs passing attempts your doing a game.
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Old 07-14-2005, 09:06 PM   #389
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Playing as Maryland, I have about 3 or 4 of them. It ain't pretty.

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Old 07-14-2005, 09:07 PM   #390
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wow. i might try UCLA. i am a big fan of the pac ten. i love UCLA and USC.

West coast rules


what your record 8-0?

how many rushing attempts vs passing attempts your doing a game.
If you want to use Bush, make sure you use USC

Yeah, I'm 8-0 and 1st in one poll and 2nd in the other poll. Georgia and FSU are my main competition right. Interestingly, Georgia is 1st in one poll and 3rd in the other poll.


I'm running about 30 times a game (20 with Bush and about 10 with White.)

I'm passing 20-30 times a game with the rare 35-40 pass game (only 1 so far.)
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Old 07-14-2005, 09:11 PM   #391
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its going to be a challenge to face Bush with me playing UCLA.

should be fun.
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Old 07-14-2005, 09:12 PM   #392
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its going to be a challenge to face Bush with me playing UCLA.

should be fun.


Ahhh, I misunderstood
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Old 07-14-2005, 09:14 PM   #393
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I've found that the key to defeating Maryland is to suit up 11 players on each side. If you can do that, it's pretty much a lock.
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Old 07-14-2005, 09:33 PM   #394
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I've found that the key to defeating Maryland is to suit up 11 players on each side. If you can do that, it's pretty much a lock.
I find that the way to beat Cincinnati is to force me to punt. I can hit a 50 yard FG from a bad angle, but if I am forced to punt the ball goes 7 yards sideways.
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Old 07-14-2005, 10:11 PM   #395
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The thing I love about this game is how one play can totally change the face of a game.

I'm tied 0-0 with #29 Oklahoma St., 2nd quarter and I miss their HB on a run up the gut, 40 yards later they are at my 5 yd line and go in for the score on the next play. It's now 17-0 and I'm taking a break because I don't remember what just happened to the 7-0 game??



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Old 07-14-2005, 10:45 PM   #396
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Reminder to self: If the computer comes out in punt block don't assume the game is like all other years where the computer had no chance to block it:

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Old 07-14-2005, 10:54 PM   #397
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AHhhhhhhh... I DID adjust in the 2nd half and after making it 17-7 I had a chance to make it 17-14 in the 4th but I hit the mode button on my wireless controller and the QB was taken over by the CPU and threw an INT. Oh how I want to scream right now. We lose 17-7 after another drive that ends on the 8 yard line of Ok. St. that drive could have tied the game for me if it wasn't for that blunder.
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Old 07-14-2005, 11:04 PM   #398
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AHhhhhhhh... I DID adjust in the 2nd half and after making it 17-7 I had a chance to make it 17-14 in the 4th but I hit the mode button on my wireless controller and the QB was taken over by the CPU and threw an INT. Oh how I want to scream right now. We lose 17-7 after another drive that ends on the 8 yard line of Ok. St. that drive could have tied the game for me if it wasn't for that blunder.

Darn, that is a terrible way to lose a game
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Old 07-14-2005, 11:25 PM   #399
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I powered off after I switched players to sack the QB...except it switched to my CB who then dove to the ground who then left a WR wide open for a 50 yard catch. The next drive they hit a small pass in the flat that turned into an 80-yd TD catch. It was bullshit. Maybe I should turn it back to Varsity? I was 4-0 in Varsity but am struggling on AA with tOSU.
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Old 07-14-2005, 11:29 PM   #400
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Maybe I should turn it back to Varsity?

Maybe you shouldn't switch defender midplay? It took awhile for me to really learn that lesson.
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