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Swaggs · 03-07-2005, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Franklinnoble

If you can sell albums without a label, why have a label?

To front the cash to produce the album and press enough of them to make a profit.

Franklinnoble · 03-07-2005, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

To front the cash to produce the album and press enough of them to make a profit.

Well, one label gave me a whopping $100, so I'm not seeing much return on that investment, once I actually have enough money to actually cut a single.

Another label gave me $3000. That will probably make the contract worthwhile.

JHandley · 03-07-2005, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Franklinnoble

Well, one label gave me a whopping $100, so I'm not seeing much return on that investment, once I actually have enough money to actually cut a single.

Another label gave me $3000. That will probably make the contract worthwhile.

Actually, you have to pay back the 3 grand to the label before you start to see any profits and they still get 20% of your profits after that.

If you're really interested in making money in this game, leave the labels alone. I think the record contract is an idea that might be cool in the future, but right now, is not very well implimented at all.

vex · 03-07-2005, 02:49 PM

The labels are more of a fun thing how they are set up.

SirFozzie · 03-07-2005, 02:52 PM

They can front you money.

vex · 03-07-2005, 02:52 PM

It would be neat if being in a top 10 label for instance, helped your release sell better because the public would know about it better/more.

nfg22 · 03-07-2005, 03:01 PM

yeah especially if your label is #1 you get super bonuses

. I want benefits of bringing this label to #1 status, well ok for at least mooching off the #1 label.

JHandley · 03-07-2005, 03:02 PM

Yeah, they can front you money, but the money isn't worth that much.

If you're starting out and 3k is a big deal, then you can just wait until after the first month of sales to reprint another 3k copies. If you're popular enough to need $100k in order to fill initial demand of the album, then you have $100k in private funds to release the album.

If the idea of record labels is to make it more realistic, then the game needs to make independent recordings sell much, much less than label produced recordings. Or, they could make a record so massively expensive to produce that you need the money that a label fronts you in order to put one out. As it stands right now, labels are a waste of time and money in the game.

JHandley · 03-07-2005, 03:03 PM

Dola-

I would also like to see the ability for labels to add to promotion of an album or act. That would prove valuable and fun.

Bearcat729 · 03-07-2005, 03:09 PM

My Teen Pop band The Eunuch Calm will probably release a single next month.

Swaggs · 03-07-2005, 03:19 PM

Labels should be able to have discounted rates with the producers and studios, too.

sterlingice · 03-07-2005, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Labels should be able to have discounted rates with the producers and studios, too.

Yeah- that'd be cool. An exclusivity contract with one studio and one producer.

SI

Coffee Warlord · 03-08-2005, 01:15 AM

Cha-Ching. Wide World of Trout sold out immediatly. Need some more cash to push out more copies. But we will, oh yes.

vex · 03-08-2005, 09:39 AM

Ah, FOFC Live! overtook Sparrow Records for the #1 spot

JeeberD · 03-08-2005, 10:18 AM

All 2000 copies of Russian Bride sold out. Time to press some more of those bad boys!

vex · 03-08-2005, 10:28 AM

Can anyone tell me exactly what this means?

"You are not signed to any record label. Therefore, your band can only release a demo or independent release. "

lighthousekeeper · 03-08-2005, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by vexroid

Can anyone tell me exactly what this means?

"You are not signed to any record label. Therefore, your band can only release a demo or independent release. "

It's just saying that whatever album or single you release will not be for a label but is something your band is putting out on its own.

vex · 03-08-2005, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by lighthousekeeper

It's just saying that whatever album or single you release will not be for a label but is something your band is putting out on its own.

Does that affect sales?

SirFozzie · 03-08-2005, 12:56 PM

Rising Hayabusa's 2nd FOFC Live! Released single "The Story of the H" is heading out this month.

Hopefully a good release will get us enough cash with our touring to get ready for an upcoming album release, tenatively entitled "Eiji Ezaki"

Also, Bubblegum Shock wants to join up with either of the FOFC controlled labels

(unfortunately both are full :*()

nfg22 · 03-08-2005, 01:17 PM

Join up with sparrow, we are the sweetest

vex · 03-08-2005, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Rising Hayabusa's 2nd FOFC Live! Released single "The Story of the H" is heading out this month.

Hopefully a good release will get us enough cash with our touring to get ready for an upcoming album release, tenatively entitled "Eiji Ezaki"

Also, Bubblegum Shock wants to join up with either of the FOFC controlled labels

(unfortunately both are full :*()

Elitist Records, another FOFC label, has openings.

vex · 03-08-2005, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by nfg22

Join up with sparrow, we are the sweetest

We're full, but a few spots should be opening up in the next few days.

tanglewood · 03-08-2005, 01:25 PM

The Pegs have applied to Eliitist records.

Doug5984 · 03-08-2005, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

I've chipped $100K into the FOFC Live! fund to give out for contracts next time around. I'd love to chip some of that particularly to some of you guys who have released 2 singles and still don't have a bunch of cash (Double D and the Usuals, S.T.A.T., The Klein Bottles) but I can't offer any new contracts. I'm guessing you guys can't get out until you're done with your obligations (which for a couple of you is just an album).

SI

We are releasing an album this month that will end out current contract so feel free to give us...all that $100k

or just most of it

Calis · 03-08-2005, 01:51 PM

Well giving my first album a shot, expect Indie Rock band The Pasty White Thighs album, Pasty & Proud to be on shelves this month.

Hope the sucker sells well, put every single dollar the band had into it! Probably should've waited a couple more months, but I got the itch to get something done.

SirFozzie · 03-08-2005, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug5984

We are releasing an album this month that will end out current contract so feel free to give us...all that $100k

or just most of it

As soon as Rising Hayabusa has two more songs, they'll be ready to release an album too. Gimme!

Swaggs · 03-08-2005, 02:02 PM

The Pegs and Bubblegum Shock both have generous offers on the table now.

In true Elitist fashion, we will no longer be accepting applications after these two, as I want to keep the label to around 10 bands.

SirFozzie · 03-08-2005, 02:06 PM

Gratefully accepted Swaggs.

We already set up our tour for the month, but will be going in to record in the next month or two Once our higher rated songs are up to snuff.

Coffee Warlord · 03-08-2005, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

The Pegs and Bubblegum Shock both have generous offers on the table now.

In true Elitist fashion, we will no longer be accepting applications after these two, as I want to keep the label to around 10 bands.

You have Breeding Pine Trees. You need no more after that.

sterlingice · 03-08-2005, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug5984

We are releasing an album this month that will end out current contract so feel free to give us...all that $100k

or just most of it

Well, I churned another 250K into it last night so there's $350K in the pot for bands. I had gotten to the point where I was playing $20K per month for lifestyle so better to put that money to a good cause- kindof like the FOFC Live! tax shelter

Fascist Eagle's first album, a self-titled, should be out in 2-3 months (once I get an 8th song).

SI

Swaggs · 03-08-2005, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

You have Breeding Pine Trees. You need no more after that.

My thoughts exactly. We will just use these other 9 bands to build up some cash reserves to support the Breeding Pine Trees.

BPT = Cash Cow!!!

vtbub · 03-08-2005, 02:45 PM

Our first single hits store shelves tonight.

lighthousekeeper · 03-08-2005, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice

I had gotten to the point where I was playing $20K per month for lifestyle so better to put that money to a good cause- kindof like the FOFC Live! tax shelter

SI

BY the way - that won't be lasting too much longer.

sterlingice · 03-08-2005, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by lighthousekeeper

BY the way - that won't be lasting too much longer.

What won't last much longer?

SI

vex · 03-08-2005, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

What won't last much longer?

SI

Sounds like being able to transfer money. Just in case, Sparrow Records just received a $260K donation

lighthousekeeper · 03-08-2005, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by vexroid

Sounds like being able to transfer money. Just in case, Sparrow Records just received a $260K donation

No, what won't last much longer is the free ride labels get. You know that each month all bands get hit with 'living expenses', but labels have no such encumberance. So an enterprising label owner could currently move all of their money into their label, thereby lowering their band's living expenses. It really is a tax shelter. So expect labels to have 'operating expenses' soon.

sterlingice · 03-08-2005, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lighthousekeeper

No, what won't last much longer is the free ride labels get. You know that each month all bands get hit with 'living expenses', but labels have no such encumberance. So an enterprising label owner could currently move all of their money into their label, thereby lowering their band's living expenses. It really is a tax shelter. So expect labels to have 'operating expenses' soon.

Another thing would be to make label money a one way street- you can't take money out, only put it in there. Then it's not like a tax shelter, you are actually giving the money up.

SI

Franklinnoble · 03-08-2005, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lighthousekeeper

No, what won't last much longer is the free ride labels get. You know that each month all bands get hit with 'living expenses', but labels have no such encumberance. So an enterprising label owner could currently move all of their money into their label, thereby lowering their band's living expenses. It really is a tax shelter. So expect labels to have 'operating expenses' soon.

People use businesses all the time as tax shelters... I don't see a problem with this.

Ummm... so, how long do I have to enjoy the benefits of a new label, if I were to go create one?

SirFozzie · 03-08-2005, 06:20 PM

And we have crash

Warning: mysql_connect(): Can't create UNIX socket (24) in /home/httpd/vhosts/music-maven.com/httpdocs/mm3/ChkMMLogin.php on line 19
I cannot connect to the database.

Franklinnoble · 03-09-2005, 01:20 AM

Hmmm... not working for me...

Ben E Lou · 03-09-2005, 05:02 AM

I keep getting "Your session has expired. Please log in again."

Antmeister · 03-09-2005, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

I keep getting "Your session has expired. Please log in again."

I go the exact same error. It is a good thing to know that I am not alone in this.

wade moore · 03-09-2005, 06:40 AM

Ditto.

JeeberD · 03-09-2005, 09:15 AM

Calis · 03-09-2005, 09:19 AM

Bah, picks the day my album comes out to crap out!

Wanna see how it sold.

Swaggs · 03-09-2005, 11:04 AM

I'm out, too.

korme · 03-09-2005, 11:04 AM

Your session has expired. Please log in again.

Klinglerware · 03-09-2005, 11:30 AM

Managed to log in, but it doesn't look like it updated last night...

vex · 03-09-2005, 11:51 AM

Yeah, it's back up, but didn't run last night.

lighthousekeeper · 03-09-2005, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by vexroid

Yeah, it's back up, but didn't run last night.

Sorry - I guess my web hosts took the server down for maintenance just at the time when my nightly sim runs (around 1am EST).

I could run the sim now to catch up, but I think it's more fair to wait until tonight to run the sim.

03-07-2005, 02:52 PM	#355
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	They can front you money. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

03-07-2005, 03:01 PM	#357
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	yeah especially if your label is #1 you get super bonuses. I want benefits of bringing this label to #1 status, well ok for at least mooching off the #1 label.

03-07-2005, 03:09 PM	#360
Bearcat729 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio	My Teen Pop band The Eunuch Calm will probably release a single next month. __________________ Bearcat729 on XBox Live and PSN

03-07-2005, 03:19 PM	#361
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Labels should be able to have discounted rates with the producers and studios, too. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

03-08-2005, 10:18 AM	#365
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	All 2000 copies of Russian Bride sold out. Time to press some more of those bad boys! __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

03-07-2005, 02:49 PM	#354
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	The labels are more of a fun thing how they are set up.

03-07-2005, 02:52 PM	#356
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	It would be neat if being in a top 10 label for instance, helped your release sell better because the public would know about it better/more.

03-07-2005, 03:02 PM	#358
JHandley High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Seattle	Yeah, they can front you money, but the money isn't worth that much. If you're starting out and 3k is a big deal, then you can just wait until after the first month of sales to reprint another 3k copies. If you're popular enough to need $100k in order to fill initial demand of the album, then you have $100k in private funds to release the album. If the idea of record labels is to make it more realistic, then the game needs to make independent recordings sell much, much less than label produced recordings. Or, they could make a record so massively expensive to produce that you need the money that a label fronts you in order to put one out. As it stands right now, labels are a waste of time and money in the game.

03-07-2005, 03:03 PM	#359
JHandley High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Seattle	Dola- I would also like to see the ability for labels to add to promotion of an album or act. That would prove valuable and fun.

03-08-2005, 01:15 AM	#363
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Cha-Ching. Wide World of Trout sold out immediatly. Need some more cash to push out more copies. But we will, oh yes.

03-08-2005, 09:39 AM	#364
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	Ah, FOFC Live! overtook Sparrow Records for the #1 spot

03-08-2005, 10:28 AM	#366
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	Can anyone tell me exactly what this means? "You are not signed to any record label. Therefore, your band can only release a demo or independent release. "

03-08-2005, 12:56 PM	#369
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Rising Hayabusa's 2nd FOFC Live! Released single "The Story of the H" is heading out this month. Hopefully a good release will get us enough cash with our touring to get ready for an upcoming album release, tenatively entitled "Eiji Ezaki" Also, Bubblegum Shock wants to join up with either of the FOFC controlled labels (unfortunately both are full :() __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com Last edited by SirFozzie : 03-08-2005 at 12:57 PM.*

03-08-2005, 01:17 PM	#370
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	Join up with sparrow, we are the sweetest

03-08-2005, 01:25 PM	#373
tanglewood College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2004	The Pegs have applied to Eliitist records.

03-08-2005, 01:51 PM	#375
Calis College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Kansas	Well giving my first album a shot, expect Indie Rock band The Pasty White Thighs album, Pasty & Proud to be on shelves this month. Hope the sucker sells well, put every single dollar the band had into it! Probably should've waited a couple more months, but I got the itch to get something done. Last edited by Calis : 03-08-2005 at 01:52 PM.

03-08-2005, 02:02 PM	#377
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	The Pegs and Bubblegum Shock both have generous offers on the table now. In true Elitist fashion, we will no longer be accepting applications after these two, as I want to keep the label to around 10 bands. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

03-08-2005, 02:06 PM	#378
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Gratefully accepted Swaggs. We already set up our tour for the month, but will be going in to record in the next month or two Once our higher rated songs are up to snuff. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

03-08-2005, 02:45 PM	#382
vtbub College Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burlington, VT USA	Our first single hits store shelves tonight. __________________

03-08-2005, 06:20 PM	#389
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	And we have crash Warning: mysql_connect(): Can't create UNIX socket (24) in /home/httpd/vhosts/music-maven.com/httpdocs/mm3/ChkMMLogin.php on line 19 I cannot connect to the database. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

03-09-2005, 01:20 AM	#390
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	Hmmm... not working for me...

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JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Yup __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

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Calis College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Kansas	Bah, picks the day my album comes out to crap out! Wanna see how it sold.

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Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I'm out, too. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

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