ALRIGHT BOYZ HERE WE GO...NFL WEEK 1 GAMEDAY THREAD - Page 8

Izulde · 09-09-2007, 07:43 PM

Man, I'm bummed about the OT loss. I mean yeah, I figured we'd go 7-9 at best on the year, but when you have a game like that within reach, to lose just really, really sucks.

14ers · 09-09-2007, 07:49 PM

Anyone know if the NFL tests officials? Ed Hochuli looks like he has been dipping into the HGH pool on Sunday night's game.

molson · 09-09-2007, 07:49 PM

I'm glad he didn't challenge

I'm tired of the logic embraced by many announcers and coaches - "You HAVE to challenge, because it was such a huge play".

TroyF · 09-09-2007, 08:05 PM

It's stunning to me. Jones runs around and barely skirts four yards a carry in a good game, while Barber hangs out around the 5 mark and everyone on the
Cowboys acts as though Jones is the better back.

Of course, when they get down in the red zone, they decide to give it to the back who is best at getting yardage. Today they've pounded it with Jones for a nice 2.6 a pop and Barber got 7 yards on his only carry. Oh well, whatever they want I guess.

cartman · 09-09-2007, 08:06 PM

I still can't believe they took Jones instead of Steven Jackson.

TazFTW · 09-09-2007, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Obviously, I'm not a Dallas fan, but I think it is because Jerry Jones is calling the shots which makes me very happy.

Actually Jerry is a big Barber fan and it is Wade Philips that fell in love with Julius Jones during camp/preseason.

TazFTW · 09-09-2007, 08:15 PM

Barber, yes!!!! Fantasy points baby!

ISiddiqui · 09-09-2007, 08:15 PM

Wow... Barber really showing why he should be the starter.

hoopsguy · 09-09-2007, 08:16 PM

Yep, nothing against Jones but Barber looks like a beast every time I watch him play.

TroyF · 09-09-2007, 08:17 PM

Funny thing is I actually wouldn't mind it if Dallas used Jones as the short yardage back and Barber as the every down back. When I watch the two runners, there is never any doubt in my mind about who the best one is.

bhlloy · 09-09-2007, 08:33 PM

What are the Giants doing having Kiwanuka out there on obvious passing downs? He looks like he's trying to cover Witten on ice. I don't like him as a linebacker in a 4-3 anyway, but having him trying to play pass coverage is suicidal.

MikeVic · 09-09-2007, 08:34 PM

Oh oh... Jacobs out.

Eaglesfan27 · 09-09-2007, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW

Actually Jerry is a big Barber fan and it is Wade Philips that fell in love with Julius Jones during camp/preseason.

That is surprising. I thought with Parcells gone that Jones was calling most of the shots.

DaddyTorgo · 09-09-2007, 08:57 PM

kevin everett's out of surgery and in intensive care...12-24 hours till we know more per bob costas

MikeVic · 09-09-2007, 08:57 PM

They just said Everett had surgery, and is in intensive care for the next 12-24 hours. With him the best!

edit: Oops, beaten to the news. Still wish him good luck!!

Celeval · 09-09-2007, 09:11 PM

Nice catch by Owens on that score.

Raiders Army · 09-09-2007, 09:13 PM

Make some FF owners happy.

Galaril · 09-09-2007, 09:25 PM

Wow the Titans beat the Jags in Jacksonville. They held the Jags to 48 yards rushing and 200 passing not bad. All the while they piled up 282 yards on the ground 175 of that from Chris Brown. That is all the more impressive since VY only had 22 yards on the ground. The jags were like 8-1 on opening day at home.

Celeval · 09-09-2007, 09:55 PM

Nice second half for T.O.

Raiders Army · 09-09-2007, 09:57 PM

That's pretty much game over. The Giants D looks really tired. If this were Madden, they'd all show up red in the playcalling screen.

Celeval · 09-09-2007, 10:17 PM

That interception is keeping the Giants in the game - but they really need a touchdown here, I think, for the momentum if nothing else.

Celeval · 09-09-2007, 10:18 PM

Speaking of which...

Andiamo · 09-09-2007, 10:19 PM

Great for TO - maybe his head will get so big, it'll explode

k0ruptr · 09-09-2007, 10:21 PM

lol, and I thought having Dallas D on my fantasy team was a good thing.

sabotai · 09-09-2007, 10:25 PM

The Giants defense is so fucking bad. RW McQuarters has got to be the worst starting CB in the league.

st.cronin · 09-09-2007, 10:26 PM

Jared Lorenzen!

Greyroofoo · 09-09-2007, 10:27 PM

Pillsbury Throwboy!

MikeVic · 09-09-2007, 10:28 PM

This guy is huge!

TargetPractice6 · 09-09-2007, 10:31 PM

Go Hefty Lefty!

Cringer · 09-09-2007, 10:33 PM

You are a 285lb (or 265?) QB, and you slide on your knees like a little girl? You get up like the big lard of man that you are and absorb the hit with your girth to get that first down. He could have had that thing.

JS19 · 09-09-2007, 10:46 PM

I was too disgusted by the Giants D to finish watcing this game. Any word on the injuries to Osi, Jacobs and Eli?

Celeval · 09-09-2007, 10:53 PM

Coughlin in press conference: Brandon Jacobs hurt his MCL, no more details.

JS19 · 09-09-2007, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Celeval

Coughlin in press conference: Brandon Jacobs hurt his MCL, no more details.

That sucks. Although I didn't see the Giants being a playoff team this yr, it's still a big blow to the team. He was about the only thing I was looking forward to this yr, seeing how he can do as a full time RB.

kingfc22 · 09-10-2007, 02:16 AM

Less than 24 hours until kickoff.

It's been awhile since I've been able to go to a Monday night game.

Karlifornia · 09-10-2007, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Less than 24 hours until kickoff.

It's been awhile since I've been able to go to a Monday night game.

I'm very jealous.

Izulde · 09-10-2007, 03:56 AM

FUCK! I fucking hate you jackasses right now, Romo and Owens. You just assfucked me out of an opening fantasy win.

(Unless Vernon Davis does for crap and Larry Fitzgerald goes apeshit to the tune of like 30 points)

stevew · 09-10-2007, 04:08 AM

Yeah, my asshole feels sore right now with my opponent having a combo of Owens, Romo and Burress from that game. I figured it would be a tight week, but I'm probably going to lose by about 35 cause of Romo.

CleBrownsfan · 09-10-2007, 06:52 AM

It's real hard being a Browns fan... they are just sooo far away of being competitive team

wade moore · 09-10-2007, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by CleBrownsfan

It's real hard being a Browns fan... they are just sooo far away of being competitive team

They should have kept Lang Campbell.

QuikSand · 09-10-2007, 08:06 AM

A couple of thoughts from a bird's-eye view of the Washington-Miami game this weekend, on beyond the obvious stuff you could gather from the box scores (like the fact that both offenses are nearly impotent).

-Washington is giddy with London Fletcher as a tackler. And he is a good tackler. What is going unreported is that he is, to my eye, just dreadful in coverage. Miami did not have a particularly impressive passing attack on the day (Chris Chambers seems to be the only reliable downfield receiver on the team, period), the one thing they could just *bank* the whole afternoon was a release valve receiver right underneath the Fletcher's zone for about 5-7 yards. I think Fletcher got credited with an impressive 12 tackles on the day, but I'd hazard that at least 6-8 of them came after he just completely conceded the catch (many of these were not pointless 7 yard receptions when it was 3rd and 12, but meaningful gains) underneath, usually to Jesse Chatman (who seemed very, very effective in his many roles, prior to getting dinged late in the game). If I'm a redskins fan (which I'm not), I'd be worried that while their defense looked pretty good overall, there's a serious and very exploitable liability in passing situations right over the middle, and bringing up a safety to help there probably exposes other problems.

-The Dolphins players hate Ted Ginn. He got an ungodly signing bonus (the number that pro players focus on, properly) and he is barely a part of that team. He cannot run patterns, clearly. His role in the offense was only as a decoy. And in the return game, there was a tell-tale moment. He bounced a kickoff return outside, and bolted left to get to about the 50 yard line. In his first game, if this had been a 7th round draft pick or some free agent pickup, the team would have been smacking his ass like there's no tomorrow. instead, a total of one player even approached Ginn with congratulations, and it was the guy making the lead block at the conclusion of the play (who basically had no choice). I'm convinced that his teammates resent him, whether it's due to him being to widely trashed as a thrown-away pick by the talking heads, or maybe he's just perceived as a show pony... he is definitely unpopular in that locker room. A few return TDs or game-breaking plays, and perhaps all will be forgiven -- but right now, they al just wish the team had selected a "football player" in that slot, rather than whatever this kid Ginn is.

Izulde · 09-10-2007, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by QuikSand

A couple of thoughts from a bird's-eye view of the Washington-Miami game this weekend, on beyond the obvious stuff you could gather from the box scores (like the fact that both offenses are nearly impotent).

-Washington is giddy with London Fletcher as a tackler. And he is a good tackler. What is going unreported is that he is, to my eye, just dreadful in coverage. Miami did not have a particularly impressive passing attack on the day (Chris Chambers seems to be the only reliable downfield receiver on the team, period), the one thing they could just *bank* the whole afternoon was a release valve receiver right underneath the Fletcher's zone for about 5-7 yards. I think Fletcher got credited with an impressive 12 tackles on the day, but I'd hazard that at least 6-8 of them came after he just completely conceded the catch (many of these were not pointless 7 yard receptions when it was 3rd and 12, but meaningful gains) underneath, usually to Jesse Chatman (who seemed very, very effective in his many roles, prior to getting dinged late in the game). If I'm a redskins fan (which I'm not), I'd be worried that while there defense looked pretty good overall, there's a serious and very exploitable liability in passing situations right over the middle, and bringing up a safety to help there probably exposes other problems.

-The Dolphins players hate Ted Ginn. He got an ungodly signing bonus (the number that pro players focus on, properly) and he is barely a part of that team. He cannot run patterns, clearly. His role in the offense was only as a decoy. And in the return game, there was a tell-tale moment. He bounced a kickoff return outside, and bolted left to get to about the 50 yard line. In his first game, if this had been a 7th round draft pick or some free agent pickup, the team would have been smacking his ass like there's no tomorrow. instead, a total of one player even approached Ginn with congratulations, and it was the guy making the lead block at the conclusion of the play (who basically had no choice). I'm convinced that his teammates resent him, whether it's due to him being to widely trashed as a thrown-away pick by the talking heads, or maybe he's just perceived as a show pony... he is definitely unpopular in that locker room. A few return TDs or game-breaking plays, and perhaps all will be forgiven -- but right now, they al just wish the team had selected a "football player" in that slot, rather than whatever this kid Ginn is.

A fucking glorified returner.

wade moore · 09-10-2007, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuikSand

A couple of thoughts from a bird's-eye view of the Washington-Miami game this weekend, on beyond the obvious stuff you could gather from the box scores (like the fact that both offenses are nearly impotent).

-Washington is giddy with London Fletcher as a tackler. And he is a good tackler. What is going unreported is that he is, to my eye, just dreadful in coverage. Miami did not have a particularly impressive passing attack on the day (Chris Chambers seems to be the only reliable downfield receiver on the team, period), the one thing they could just *bank* the whole afternoon was a release valve receiver right underneath the Fletcher's zone for about 5-7 yards. I think Fletcher got credited with an impressive 12 tackles on the day, but I'd hazard that at least 6-8 of them came after he just completely conceded the catch (many of these were not pointless 7 yard receptions when it was 3rd and 12, but meaningful gains) underneath, usually to Jesse Chatman (who seemed very, very effective in his many roles, prior to getting dinged late in the game). If I'm a redskins fan (which I'm not), I'd be worried that while there defense looked pretty good overall, there's a serious and very exploitable liability in passing situations right over the middle, and bringing up a safety to help there probably exposes other problems.

Spot-On assessment from what I saw. I'm baffled as to why they let Mitchell go late in the pre-season. For whatever his flaws were, he was at least better than Fletcher at pass coverage - which could have been valuable in these 3rd and long situations. My other concern is that as nice as it is to see Smoot back in a Redskins uniform, he's definitely lost a step. He plays off of the receivers and was giving a sizeable cushion on almost every play. This is the reason Chambers had so many balls thrown his way. Smoot just cannot play tight on elite receivers is what it looks like - which is particularly concerning since he seems to have suplanted Shawn Springs (which is a total shock to me).

The good things I saw from the defense:

- I'm guessing Carlos Rogers is finally improving his coverage. That or Cameron/Green just didn't bother throwing his way. Unfortunately with TV coverage it is hard to tell since you cannot see the whole field, but I have to assume that with so few balls thrown his way he must have been doing a pretty good job.

- No major blown assignments by the safeties - let's face it, it seemed to happen at least a few times a game last year.

Anyway, I do agree with your assessment - they seem overall improved, but that weakness is definitely there. As soon as we play a team that can exploit it (uh, Philly on Monday night anybody) it could really be a problem.

On the offensive side - I like what I see from Campbell. I think a lot of talking heads (and some here?) think he can't be a big time QB. I saw a rocket of an arm that can deliver very precise deep throws that is improving on his touch (although clearly he let quite a few short passes sail on him). The two INT's arguably were not his fault - one was a miscommunication between him and Cooley and one looked like Brandon Lloyd didn't do what you expect a tall, big-contract WR to do - go up and get the damned ball.

MikeVic · 09-10-2007, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by QuikSand

If I'm a redskins fan (which I'm not), I'd be worried that while there defense looked pretty good overall, there's a serious and very exploitable liability in passing situations right over the middle, and bringing up a safety to help there probably exposes other problems.

GRAMMAR POLICE! WEE WOOO WEEE WOOO!!!

Fidatelo · 09-10-2007, 11:45 AM

I've got a question about the end of the Broncos game: why didn't they spike the ball rather than rushing the kicking unit out onto the field? I know it worked, and that it was fun and exciting, but wouldn't it have been safer to have Cutler run up, spike the ball to kill the clock, and then get the field goal set up properly?

miami_fan · 09-10-2007, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuikSand

-The Dolphins players hate Ted Ginn. He got an ungodly signing bonus (the number that pro players focus on, properly) and he is barely a part of that team. He cannot run patterns, clearly. His role in the offense was only as a decoy. And in the return game, there was a tell-tale moment. He bounced a kickoff return outside, and bolted left to get to about the 50 yard line. In his first game, if this had been a 7th round draft pick or some free agent pickup, the team would have been smacking his ass like there's no tomorrow. instead, a total of one player even approached Ginn with congratulations, and it was the guy making the lead block at the conclusion of the play (who basically had no choice). I'm convinced that his teammates resent him, whether it's due to him being to widely trashed as a thrown-away pick by the talking heads, or maybe he's just perceived as a show pony... he is definitely unpopular in that locker room. A few return TDs or game-breaking plays, and perhaps all will be forgiven -- but right now, they al just wish the team had selected a "football player" in that slot, rather than whatever this kid Ginn is.

I almost feel sorry for Ginn. Almost. I don't think that a few game breaking plays or return TDs is going to do the trick. Ginn, fair or not, is going to be compared to not only the other receivers taking after him. Among Dolphin fans and players, he is going to be compared to Wes Welker. At the very least he has to come close to the numbers that Welker put up last year with a supposedly inferior QB situation.

MizzouRah · 09-10-2007, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

I guess that's a better assessment.

stevew · 09-10-2007, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fidatelo

I've got a question about the end of the Broncos game: why didn't they spike the ball rather than rushing the kicking unit out onto the field? I know it worked, and that it was fun and exciting, but wouldn't it have been safer to have Cutler run up, spike the ball to kill the clock, and then get the field goal set up properly?

I think they wanted to kick on 3rd down maybe?

molson · 09-10-2007, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

I think they wanted to kick on 3rd down maybe?

It was actually first down when he kicked (according to the ESPN.com gamelog)

The only thing I can think of is this is something they practiced a lot, and Elam was really comfortable with it.

JAG · 09-10-2007, 12:42 PM

The Cowboys-Giants game ran the whole gamut of emotions. Romo was pretty inaccurate early in the game, but seemed to improve as the game went on. The Dallas defense is going to be hopeless without Newman, Ellis, and now Jason Ferguson likely out for the season (the backup NT was possibly the shakiest spot on the team depth-wise, though you could argue QB and CB as well). There was little pressure on Manning all night and they made the Giants' 2nd/3rd string RB look like Barry Sanders. The offense looked pretty impressive, though it's hard to tell how impressive as the Giants' defense looked absolutely awful when Dallas was passing.

MikeVic · 09-10-2007, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JAG

The Cowboys-Giants game ran the whole gamut of emotions. Romo was pretty inaccurate early in the game, but seemed to improve as the game went on. The Dallas defense is going to be hopeless without Newman, Ellis, and now Jason Ferguson likely out for the season (the backup NT was possibly the shakiest spot on the team depth-wise, though you could argue QB and CB as well). There was little pressure on Manning all night and they made the Giants' 2nd/3rd string RB look like Barry Sanders. The offense looked pretty impressive, though it's hard to tell how impressive as the Giants' defense looked absolutely awful when Dallas was passing.

So... Ward isn't a good pickup at RB, now that Jacobs is out for a few weeks?

09-09-2007, 07:43 PM	#351
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	Man, I'm bummed about the OT loss. I mean yeah, I figured we'd go 7-9 at best on the year, but when you have a game like that within reach, to lose just really, really sucks. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

09-09-2007, 07:49 PM	#352
14ers High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2006	Anyone know if the NFL tests officials? Ed Hochuli looks like he has been dipping into the HGH pool on Sunday night's game. __________________ I like the company I keep when I am alone. 'The Blonde Bomber'

09-09-2007, 07:49 PM	#353
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	I'm glad he didn't challenge I'm tired of the logic embraced by many announcers and coaches - "You HAVE to challenge, because it was such a huge play". Last edited by molson : 09-09-2007 at 07:50 PM.

09-09-2007, 08:06 PM	#355
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	I still can't believe they took Jones instead of Steven Jackson. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

09-09-2007, 08:15 PM	#357
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	Barber, yes!!!! Fantasy points baby! __________________ "Teams don't want to make the trip anymore," says Hawaii coach June Jones. "They come here, we kick their ass, they go home." Fire Ron Lee.

09-09-2007, 08:05 PM	#354
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	It's stunning to me. Jones runs around and barely skirts four yards a carry in a good game, while Barber hangs out around the 5 mark and everyone on the Cowboys acts as though Jones is the better back. Of course, when they get down in the red zone, they decide to give it to the back who is best at getting yardage. Today they've pounded it with Jones for a nice 2.6 a pop and Barber got 7 yards on his only carry. Oh well, whatever they want I guess.

09-09-2007, 08:15 PM	#358
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Wow... Barber really showing why he should be the starter. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

09-09-2007, 08:16 PM	#359
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Yep, nothing against Jones but Barber looks like a beast every time I watch him play.

09-09-2007, 08:17 PM	#360
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Funny thing is I actually wouldn't mind it if Dallas used Jones as the short yardage back and Barber as the every down back. When I watch the two runners, there is never any doubt in my mind about who the best one is.

09-09-2007, 08:33 PM	#361
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	What are the Giants doing having Kiwanuka out there on obvious passing downs? He looks like he's trying to cover Witten on ice. I don't like him as a linebacker in a 4-3 anyway, but having him trying to play pass coverage is suicidal.

09-09-2007, 08:34 PM	#362
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	Oh oh... Jacobs out.

09-09-2007, 08:57 PM	#364
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	kevin everett's out of surgery and in intensive care...12-24 hours till we know more per bob costas

09-09-2007, 08:57 PM	#365
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	They just said Everett had surgery, and is in intensive care for the next 12-24 hours. With him the best! edit: Oops, beaten to the news. Still wish him good luck!! Last edited by MikeVic : 09-09-2007 at 08:58 PM.

09-09-2007, 09:11 PM	#366
Celeval Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cary, NC, USA	Nice catch by Owens on that score.

09-09-2007, 09:13 PM	#367
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Make some FF owners happy.

09-09-2007, 09:25 PM	#368
Galaril Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2004	Wow the Titans beat the Jags in Jacksonville. They held the Jags to 48 yards rushing and 200 passing not bad. All the while they piled up 282 yards on the ground 175 of that from Chris Brown. That is all the more impressive since VY only had 22 yards on the ground. The jags were like 8-1 on opening day at home.

09-09-2007, 09:55 PM	#369
Celeval Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cary, NC, USA	Nice second half for T.O.

09-09-2007, 09:57 PM	#370
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	That's pretty much game over. The Giants D looks really tired. If this were Madden, they'd all show up red in the playcalling screen.

09-09-2007, 10:17 PM	#371
Celeval Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cary, NC, USA	That interception is keeping the Giants in the game - but they really need a touchdown here, I think, for the momentum if nothing else.

09-09-2007, 10:18 PM	#372
Celeval Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cary, NC, USA	Speaking of which...

09-09-2007, 10:19 PM	#373
Andiamo n00b Join Date: Jun 2007	Great for TO - maybe his head will get so big, it'll explode

09-09-2007, 10:21 PM	#374
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	lol, and I thought having Dallas D on my fantasy team was a good thing. __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

09-09-2007, 10:25 PM	#375
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	The Giants defense is so fucking bad. RW McQuarters has got to be the worst starting CB in the league.

09-09-2007, 10:26 PM	#376
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Jared Lorenzen! __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

09-09-2007, 10:27 PM	#377
Greyroofoo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alabama	Pillsbury Throwboy!

09-09-2007, 10:28 PM	#378
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	This guy is huge!

09-09-2007, 10:31 PM	#379
TargetPractice6 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lexington, KY	Go Hefty Lefty!

09-09-2007, 10:33 PM	#380
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	You are a 285lb (or 265?) QB, and you slide on your knees like a little girl? You get up like the big lard of man that you are and absorb the hit with your girth to get that first down. He could have had that thing. __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

09-09-2007, 10:46 PM	#381
JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	I was too disgusted by the Giants D to finish watcing this game. Any word on the injuries to Osi, Jacobs and Eli?

09-09-2007, 10:53 PM	#382
Celeval Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cary, NC, USA	Coughlin in press conference: Brandon Jacobs hurt his MCL, no more details.

09-10-2007, 02:16 AM	#384
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Less than 24 hours until kickoff. It's been awhile since I've been able to go to a Monday night game. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

09-10-2007, 03:56 AM	#386
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	FUCK! I fucking hate you jackasses right now, Romo and Owens. You just assfucked me out of an opening fantasy win. (Unless Vernon Davis does for crap and Larry Fitzgerald goes apeshit to the tune of like 30 points) __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

09-10-2007, 04:08 AM	#387
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Yeah, my asshole feels sore right now with my opponent having a combo of Owens, Romo and Burress from that game. I figured it would be a tight week, but I'm probably going to lose by about 35 cause of Romo.

09-10-2007, 06:52 AM	#388
CleBrownsfan Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: C-Town	It's real hard being a Browns fan... they are just sooo far away of being competitive team __________________ *XBox Gamertag:* Pronk32 FOOL-X - Cleveland Naps FOOL - Cleveland Cyclones SLOP - Cuyahoga Spiders

09-10-2007, 08:06 AM	#390
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	A couple of thoughts from a bird's-eye view of the Washington-Miami game this weekend, on beyond the obvious stuff you could gather from the box scores (like the fact that both offenses are nearly impotent). -Washington is giddy with London Fletcher as a tackler. And he is a good tackler. What is going unreported is that he is, to my eye, just dreadful in coverage. Miami did not have a particularly impressive passing attack on the day (Chris Chambers seems to be the only reliable downfield receiver on the team, period), the one thing they could just bank the whole afternoon was a release valve receiver right underneath the Fletcher's zone for about 5-7 yards. I think Fletcher got credited with an impressive 12 tackles on the day, but I'd hazard that at least 6-8 of them came after he just completely conceded the catch (many of these were not pointless 7 yard receptions when it was 3rd and 12, but meaningful gains) underneath, usually to Jesse Chatman (who seemed very, very effective in his many roles, prior to getting dinged late in the game). If I'm a redskins fan (which I'm not), I'd be worried that while their defense looked pretty good overall, there's a serious and very exploitable liability in passing situations right over the middle, and bringing up a safety to help there probably exposes other problems. -The Dolphins players hate Ted Ginn. He got an ungodly signing bonus (the number that pro players focus on, properly) and he is barely a part of that team. He cannot run patterns, clearly. His role in the offense was only as a decoy. And in the return game, there was a tell-tale moment. He bounced a kickoff return outside, and bolted left to get to about the 50 yard line. In his first game, if this had been a 7th round draft pick or some free agent pickup, the team would have been smacking his ass like there's no tomorrow. instead, a total of one player even approached Ginn with congratulations, and it was the guy making the lead block at the conclusion of the play (who basically had no choice). I'm convinced that his teammates resent him, whether it's due to him being to widely trashed as a thrown-away pick by the talking heads, or maybe he's just perceived as a show pony... he is definitely unpopular in that locker room. A few return TDs or game-breaking plays, and perhaps all will be forgiven -- but right now, they al just wish the team had selected a "football player" in that slot, rather than whatever this kid Ginn is. Last edited by QuikSand : 09-10-2007 at 10:12 AM.