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Old 10-21-2006, 06:41 PM   #351
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In Marc position that he holds, he needs to act professional toward others and not act like he does. Thats all I ask from him. Just give me some respect that I have played the game.

Whether you've played EHM or not, your track record would indicate that you have commented on a lot of games without ever having played them. Why should Marc put up with these kinds of comments if the person making them has consistently demonstrated that they haven't played a lot of games they talk about?
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Old 10-21-2006, 07:04 PM   #352
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exactly. JB's just reaping what he's sown.
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Old 10-21-2006, 07:32 PM   #353
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exactly. JB's just reaping what he's sown.

By the same token, even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
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Old 10-21-2006, 08:23 PM   #354
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Marc Duffy is losing a lot of respect. You should be replace with someone that will have respect to their fans of the game. Your tone is unacceptable in the position you have. Your not very professional.

Uh...this is wrong.


Marc Duffy (and all the guys at SI) have constantly provided help and information about their games on this specific forum for years, a forum unrelated and unaffliated with their product. That in itself is enough to provide more respect then some forum members seem to imagine. And if Marc wants to take pot-shots at the class clown on this forum, he is certainly entitled to act "not very professional", since it isn't even his official forum.

If it comes down to choosing between a "not very professional" Marc Duffy posting on this forum, or a forum member having his feelings hurt, I certainly know which option I would take.

This is my 8th year of purchasing SI products and only one (CM4) was a disappointment (although I did not buy OOTP). That's a pretty good track record. In other words, Marc still has my respect. Of course, he would have a lot more of it if he would send me a free copy of FM2007.
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Old 10-21-2006, 08:37 PM   #355
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And if Marc wants to take pot-shots at the class clown on this forum, he is certainly entitled to act "not very professional", since it isn't even his official forum.

I disagree entirely on this point.

His behavior here should have had him looking for a job quite a ways back AFAIC. It's a long way from being just "the class clown" that he's exhibited his lack of professionalism with.

To be honest, I'm surprised (not to mention disappointed) that SI hasn't reigned him in already, and I've lost respect for them because of their failure to do so. It's getting to the point that I believe if SI isn't willing, maybe it's time his attitude & activities be brought to the attention of their corporate partner, perhaps they can exert some influence on the situation.
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Old 10-21-2006, 08:56 PM   #356
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I disagree entirely on this point.

His behavior here should have had him looking for a job quite a ways back AFAIC. It's a long way from being just "the class clown" that he's exhibited his lack of professionalism with.


Well it is possible I did miss a lot of what went on with OOTP, but I've really seen nothing that warrants that. Nonetheless, I would respect your opinion, Jon, much more than jbmagic's on the subject.

However, I still think he would have the right to act as a normal forum member away from his own official forum, no matter his job description. If the forum moderator (and everybody else) can knock on jbmagic, then I certainly don't feel it's right to call out Marc for doing the same thing. I would rather have him and all the guys at SI participating in the forum than simply touting the company line (which I can read on their forum)
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Old 10-21-2006, 09:04 PM   #357
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However, I still think he would have the right to act as a normal forum member away from his own official forum, no matter his job description.

I would disagree (although apparently I'd be wrong judging from SI's lack of concern about his behavior). The venue is largely irrelevant IMO since he is clearly identifiable as a company representative when posting here, therefore his behavior reflects back upon the company.
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Old 10-21-2006, 09:51 PM   #358
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I would disagree (although apparently I'd be wrong judging from SI's lack of concern about his behavior). The venue is largely irrelevant IMO since he is clearly identifiable as a company representative when posting here, therefore his behavior reflects back upon the company.

Fair enough. We'll just have agree to disagree on it.
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Old 10-21-2006, 10:51 PM   #359
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In Marc position that he holds, he needs to act professional toward others and not act like he does. Thats all I ask from him. Just give me some respect that I have played the game.

Its seems like EHM 2007 has more bugs than last year version so far. People should not be waiting for a patch update this late and SI needs to stop rushing their games out. They made a big mistake with ootp 2006 and now EHM 2007.


Sorry man, you've spent years doing your copy-paste "reviews" and want to be taken seriously. You want people to now believe that you play the games and form your own opinions but look at this post you've just made..

"Its seems like EHM 2007 has more bugs than last year version so far."

Wow, what a definitive statement. Sounds like you've spent hundreds of hours digging through the game. I'm not saying you haven't played the game but with your track record and this comment, to me, it sounds like the same old shit. As SirFozzie said you are now reaping what you have sown.
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Old 10-22-2006, 01:26 PM   #360
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Haven't touched the game since early October...and I'm bummed out...

Patiently waiting for the patch--I'm an SI-fan boy, but man, I'd really like the Computer GM issues resolved soon...

Kevin

I haven't touched the game since early October either. Thankfully I have been busy enough that it isn't 100% on purpose, but I am waiting for that patch mainly. I have a career going in the Central Hockey League with my local Rio Grande Valley Killer Bees, and I just can't bring myself to keep going until the league points system is fixed.
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Old 10-22-2006, 01:44 PM   #361
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I would disagree (although apparently I'd be wrong judging from SI's lack of concern about his behavior). The venue is largely irrelevant IMO since he is clearly identifiable as a company representative when posting here, therefore his behavior reflects back upon the company.

I agree with Jon here. Even if this is not the official SI board he is a representative of the company when he posts here and is posting in an official capacity. It's no different than speaking on behalf of your employer outside the office in which you work. The location is really irrelevant as he is still an ambassador/representative for SI. Having said all that jbmagic would make me want to snap too.

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Old 10-22-2006, 07:48 PM   #362
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A quick IP address check would reveal that Marc Duffy and jbmagic are one and the same individual. Their staged "squabbles" are a covert operation, carrried out by SI Games, designed to distract us all from other issues.

Further revelations to follow...
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Old 10-22-2006, 08:20 PM   #363
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exactly. JB's just reaping what he's sown.

I think he just wants to plant his seed in the guys at SI.
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Old 10-22-2006, 08:22 PM   #364
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I disagree entirely on this point.

His behavior here should have had him looking for a job quite a ways back AFAIC. It's a long way from being just "the class clown" that he's exhibited his lack of professionalism with.

To be honest, I'm surprised (not to mention disappointed) that SI hasn't reigned him in already, and I've lost respect for them because of their failure to do so. It's getting to the point that I believe if SI isn't willing, maybe it's time his attitude & activities be brought to the attention of their corporate partner, perhaps they can exert some influence on the situation.

luckily, most people don't put much weight in your misguided ramblings.
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Old 10-22-2006, 09:56 PM   #365
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I'm clearly in the minority here... but I agree with JB in regards to comments Duffy has made towards him, and honestly I like Duffy and have a lot of respect for him.

While I agree with what Duffy said about JB, as part of SI I think it was irresponsible for him to say it. No one here takes his ramblings seriously, so we didn't need Marc to point it out.

... anyways thats just my two cents.
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Old 10-22-2006, 09:59 PM   #366
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I think he just wants to plant his seed in the guys at SI.

On behalf of the rest of the board, let me just say...ewwwww.
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Old 10-22-2006, 10:17 PM   #367
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lhe's not here to kiss your ass.

Well, that's good to know. I'd hate for him to get in your way, 'cause you certainly have an open invitation you clueless piece of crap.
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Old 10-23-2006, 06:09 AM   #368
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Lets get back to the game impression's gentleman.
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Old 10-23-2006, 07:49 AM   #369
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Yeah, asswhites.
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Old 10-23-2006, 12:16 PM   #370
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Lets get back to the game impression's gentleman.

But then things will get really, really ugly. (If you think this stuff is bad, take a peek at the EHM forum at SI games.)

I guess the latest information is that the patch should come out in the first half of November?
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Old 11-06-2006, 03:07 PM   #371
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Marc/Riz - Anyupdate?

I am waiting patiently to fire this one up again and mean while getting more and more addicted to FM2007. If note released soon I may fall to deep into the FM addiction never to return again..
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Old 11-06-2006, 04:29 PM   #372
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Grrawwwrrrr, the thread got bumped again without containing patch news.
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Old 11-06-2006, 05:59 PM   #373
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Grrawwwrrrr, the thread got bumped again without containing patch news.

Sorry Pumpster
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Old 11-06-2006, 06:09 PM   #374
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Someone PM me when the unfake DB is out.
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Old 11-06-2006, 06:29 PM   #375
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Is there any word on when the unfaking DB is going to be finished? I want to get back into this game so badly that I may just have to start a "real" game without it...
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Old 11-07-2006, 02:50 AM   #376
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JB : I apologise if you feel I am unprofessional but I'm very tired reading your ramblings with the knowledge that you don't even play our games. There are many opinions here myself and the SI team respect a lot more than your constant drivel.

JoninthemiddleGA : Please feel free to escalate to our corporate partners if you feel I am out of line. On many levels, I think your general tone on this board borders on the offensive and the moderators need to reign your ego in.

All : The patch really is in the final stages and I'm confident of a release this week. It's taken so long because we've really tried to look at everything. I'd be happy if some of you guys sent me a PM and I'll see if I can get you a beta build to try out (it should resolve any major gripes you have)
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Old 11-07-2006, 02:50 AM   #377
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Marc/Riz - Anyupdate?

I am waiting patiently to fire this one up again and mean while getting more and more addicted to FM2007. If note released soon I may fall to deep into the FM addiction never to return again..
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Old 11-07-2006, 02:51 AM   #378
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But then things will get really, really ugly. (If you think this stuff is bad, take a peek at the EHM forum at SI games.)

I guess the latest information is that the patch should come out in the first half of November?
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Old 11-07-2006, 02:54 AM   #379
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Marc Duffy (and all the guys at SI) have constantly provided help and information about their games on this specific forum for years, a forum unrelated and unaffliated with their product. That in itself is enough to provide more respect then some forum members seem to imagine. And if Marc wants to take pot-shots at the class clown on this forum, he is certainly entitled to act "not very professional", since it isn't even his official forum.

I wouldn't call them potshots. For me, we have someone on here who posts a lot about our games but doesnt actually play them. Picking comments up from various people and forums and passing them off as fact is actually very annoying (and potentially damaging to the title).

I always ask people to form their own judgement of our games and not base their opinion on others.
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Old 11-07-2006, 03:42 AM   #380
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Just so Pumpy doesn't get disappointed when he sees the thread bumped again with no patch news (and to save Riz the trouble, since I've already used up a bunch of his time tonight by arguing over arcane NHL junior-signing logic):

I'm happy with what I'm seeing so far in the patch. Bear in mind that the things I focus on in testing are hockey-realism related, so I'm not the best judge of interface-type stuff. But the stats are looking very nice (the assist shortage and low defensemen scoring, in particular, are fixed), and the roster logic seems good. There were some stability issues that were impeding long-term tests (at least for me), but the newest test candidate has been completely crash-free for me so far.

I gave the NHL data as much of an overhaul as humanly possible in the time I had allotted. The starting NHL rosters are accurate as of Oct. 30 (if you find a significant name missing, it's a licensing issue, not a research one.) I also did a lot of tweaking to reflect what's happened so far this season - e.g., rookies who got off to fast starts (Malkin, Kopitar, etc.) got some improvements. And issues like the underrated Wings (Zetterberg in particular) and some overrated veterans have been addressed. I didn't go crazy with trying to match the early 06-07 performance, so the Flyers and Flames didn't get thrown under the bus or the Ducks and Sabres turned into supermen, but the standings and scoring leaders should be closer to real life now.

My one big remaining concern is the long-term player development. I've got a game running in the background as I type this; hopefully I'll have enough data to make a good evaluation later today. Riz, though, sounded like he had that problem figured out, so I'm optimistic. And I think some changes I made to the junior data have redressed the talent gap between Canada and the rest of the world in the 2007/8/9 drafts. Assuming that all turns out OK, all the significant realism issues I had with the existing game will have been dealt with.
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Old 11-07-2006, 05:25 AM   #381
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Sounds encouraging fellas.
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Old 11-07-2006, 08:53 AM   #382
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My one big remaining concern is the long-term player development. I've got a game running in the background as I type this; hopefully I'll have enough data to make a good evaluation later today. Riz, though, sounded like he had that problem figured out, so I'm optimistic. And I think some changes I made to the junior data have redressed the talent gap between Canada and the rest of the world in the 2007/8/9 drafts. Assuming that all turns out OK, all the significant realism issues I had with the existing game will have been dealt with.

Have you guys changes attribute levels at the major junior level or just the development code? I play in the WHL and one of the first things I noticed when I fired up EHM2007 for the first time was the drop in attribute levels from EHM2005. I play my games very slowly, so I hadn't even made it to my first draft yet, but I could see where low attribute levels could make the NHL draft difficult. Also, the attribute levels of the bantam players are really low, but I just thought that was part of the challenge
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Old 11-07-2006, 09:22 AM   #383
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Great news! Thanks Duff and Jeff!
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Old 11-07-2006, 10:07 AM   #384
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Great news! Thanks Duff and Jeff!

Ditto!
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Old 11-07-2006, 02:01 PM   #385
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Have you guys changes attribute levels at the major junior level or just the development code? I play in the WHL and one of the first things I noticed when I fired up EHM2007 for the first time was the drop in attribute levels from EHM2005. I play my games very slowly, so I hadn't even made it to my first draft yet, but I could see where low attribute levels could make the NHL draft difficult. Also, the attribute levels of the bantam players are really low, but I just thought that was part of the challenge

They're definitely supposed to be lower than in EHM2005; the idea with the new attribute development system is to get the youngest guys starting at a more realistic level and developing from there, unlike in earlier games, where the good ones often had many NHL-level attributes as soon as they appeared as 13-14-15-year-olds.

Problem is, it seems like they're not developing anywhere near fast enough. Continuing to investigate why, but at this point in my test game it looks like in-game player development is basically lagging at least a year behind how fast it occurs in real life.
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Old 11-07-2006, 08:25 PM   #386
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Marc Duffy

One more time, I did play and try out SI games EHM and OOTP demo.

It hurts you continue to say I have not play any SI games. Please stop accusing me that I don't play it and try it out.

That just an excuse to get off the hook about the bugs that I and others have reported for OOTP and EHM.
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Old 11-07-2006, 08:59 PM   #387
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Marc Duffy

One more time, I did play and try out SI games EHM and OOTP demo.

It hurts you continue to say I have not play any SI games. Please stop accusing me that I don't play it and try it out.

That just an excuse to get off the hook about the bugs that I and others have reported for OOTP and EHM.

In my mind playing 6-moths in these games is the same as not playing them JB. The true magic of these games comes much further in then 6 months. You seem to be knocking a product you honestly havent played, which doesnt suprise me too much given what ive seen of your post history or what forum this is.
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Old 11-07-2006, 09:00 PM   #388
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This game has already lost me I am sorry to say, the patch has taken so long I have lost complete interest. I hate wasting money and usually I won't write off a game like this, but I have to say it was a waste for me.

I think FM is the only SI game I will get from now on, once every 2 years probably.
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Old 11-08-2006, 07:49 AM   #389
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I took Marc up on the beta build offer and it was worth the wait. Still a few small issues that I noted to him in a PM.

Anyone else playing the beta build?

Here are the issues I came accross.


I am playing in the Central Hockey League:

Training Camp Bug - Running open camp, all players who arrive for open tryouts have last names that start with "C" or "B". I checked all other teams in league and it appeared to be the same.

News Bug - Read a news item on the NHL where it stated that a game ended in a 5-5 tie. Checked box score and saw where one team had won in shoot out.

Central specific bug?? - Saw two players in particular that I wanted to go after. Both where 36 years old and on the "trade block" by their respective teams. Approached both teams and only option was to "buy" player. Could not offer trade. I am not an expert in the Central Hockey League but I was not aware that the cash for player , transfer system, was used in any North American league.
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Old 11-09-2006, 10:36 AM   #390
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Final changelist

NHL™ Eastside Hockey Manager™ 2007 v3.0.2
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General
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- Fixed human being unable to change U20 side's roster coming upto the WJC-U20 ( need to start a new game )
- Salary cap is now configurable via the config file transfer_rules_config.cfg, in the database folder. Set to values to 0 or remove the entry to remove the cap for competition entirely. Caps cannot be added to leagues that do not already have them.
- AHL training camps no longer clash with NHL training camps
- Taking a job in a different league now sets the detail level correctly for that league.
- Fixed board expecations not being set up properly when a human moves teams
- Added preferences option which stops human managers being sacked
- Team colours can be changed via extra_config.cfg - see the top of the file for details
- Fixed the wrong number of teams being entered into the CHL import draft
- Made teams less likely to skip there 2nd round pick in the CHL import draft unless it gives them too many imports.
- Allowed match controls (speed/highlights etc) to be changed in network games.


Crashes
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- Fixed a crash continuing from Nov 21st to Nov 22nd
- Fixed crash going to see-also menu with teams in "A minor league"
- Fixed potential crash on November the 14th, if the game has been saved/re-loaded between certain days.
- Fixed a problem with player rights that could cause the game to crash on apparently random dates
- Fixed a crash trying to get injury information for a non-player
- Fixed a crash related to a nonplayer joining a nation as manager when they already have a contract as an assistant manager/coach. with another nation
- Fixed a crash when a human offers to sign a non-player to a national team and then resigns just before the deal completes
- Tweaked board confidence changes after a game.

User Interface
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- Fixed problems continuing the game when there was a modal screen in the history
- Retiring as GM shouldn't continue the game
- Colour clash fixes, improved readability of text on menubar and match screens where colours were similar
- Fixed being able to set the second nationality of a new GM as the same as the first nationality (and vice versa)
- Fixed award custom images
- Fixed sorting of GAA and Save% on hall of fame screen
- Clicking "Unread All" on the news screen should redraw the screen
- Fixed display issues on transfer screen for players who had requested to be transferred
- Can now untick "Ignore Exhibitions" in the team comparison screen
- Can now deselect divisions in the group menu on the league standings screen
- Fixed job title text being cut off on team screen personnel list
- Fixed progress bar displaying invalid scores when a game was abandoned
- Memorial Cup should use the same position button colour for all teams
- Fixed alignment issues on the bans section of the player profile
- Fixed alignment issues on shootout choices screen
- Cannot set invalid squad status for staff from the club screen contract management view
- Moved Pull Goalie button away from the Confirm button on tactics screen to prevent accidental clicks
- Removed border from player pics on the front office screen that were too big.
- Using the quick flicks on the Team screen Personnel section now remembers the original view when moving between clubs
- Fixed overlapping buttons on the competiton screen for the British Cups
- on the league information screen for Continental Competitions the correct division each team comes from is now displayed.
- Schedule calendar view, fixed that shootout scorers where listed in the match scorers and the extra goal is now added on for an OT win.
- When configuraing a custom tournament you can now no longer set lose points to be greater than or equal to win points. Also 2 points can be given for an OT win.
- Add Manager Screen, if set to perform Fantasy draft in a league other than that which the game start date was set for the Nation/ League menus would display the text for the league the date was selected instead of the league the fantasy draft is taking place in.
- Add Manager screen nav arrows now work when first time in Fantasy Draft mode
- Start Uneployed option completed removed in Fantasy Draft mode ( was just disabled before, but caused some confusion )
- Oldest / Youngest Player on the Team Information screen was sometimes displaying incorrect values for how many days the player had been that age for.
- overall standings league table view, PK % was slightly being cut-off
- Fixed league information screen possibly showing incorrect details about Friendly tournaments
- The quick link item for Roster now does not change colour moving between different screens.
- Fixed pressing cancel on search filers on the draft screen still applied the filters.
- Fixed minor alignment issue with jobs panel on the front office screen
- Fixed overlapping text in the match screen when two humans are playing matches simultaneosly in a network game.
- Shortlist button on Front Office screen now goes to shortlist instead of player search
- Fixed getting into Pause/Resume loop at the end of the game if accessing tactics after game ended
- Detail level screen did not remember changes to the preset settings for Continental games
- Fixed salary sorting on the Waiver wire screen
- On player & Staff search there were two options called Export, one of them should have been Delete and is now re-named.
- Fixed problem where some President's Tophy winners wouldn't be displayed on the team history screen
- Added affiliates links to Front Office screen
- Training screen now has multi-select to change player schedules en masse.
- training screen remembers which attributes were being shown for each schedule type
- Training screen shows the number of players on each schedule in the Schedule menu.
- Fixed when selecting Canada on the select leagues screen then changing to it to Standard, Canada remained in the start date options dropdown.
- Fixed goalies being included in skater stats on the home screen
- When an exhibition tour has the maximum games (10), then all other dates are marked as unavailable
- Fixed player bio problem where a player's best season was noted as an award winning year when it wasn't
- Fixed incorrect alignment of delete button on shortlist
- Invite (for exhibition)/Scout Team/Apply for Job now available via right click
- Qualifying offer text on contract offer screen is linkable and now sets the offer to that value
- Added extra info display to the 2D screen to make note of the last goal scorer and assists as well as the last penalty called
- Moved the play-by-play commentary bar right below the rink to make it more readable while watching games
- Made the 2D action automatically pause/resume while accessing dropdown menu's while watching games to allow better menu access
- In the league histories for youngest and oldest players there was a display issue with the players age which made the list look unsorted.
- Removed 0-4 Forecheck/Neutral Zone Defensive options for for 3v5 units
- Fixed incorrect clear dates being displayed on the waiver wire screen
- Standings panel showed the Eastern conference for Western conference teams in the QMJHL
- Fixed +/- display issue in the Hot or Not panel in Team Report
- Fixed refresh rate being set to 60Hz when alt-tabbing while in fullscreen mode (Windows)
- Offer to All added to person actions
- Modal screens now handle keypress actions (escape for cancel action, return for confirm action)
- Quickflicks and see also button now have a tooltip
- League list dropdown on Fantasy Draft options screen is now sorted alphabetically
- Training screen can be assigned to a keyboard shortcut and is by default assigned to F10
- Fixed the amount of years a contract is offered for being reset when going back an altering an offer already made
- Fixed the game freezing while pressing the keyboard shortcut for the news screen whilst on the news screen
- Fixed progress bar displaying team names the wrong way round with North American score display on
- Stopped an extra goal being added to the overall winning teams score in a 2nd leg match if the result was decided by a shootout on the compeition Stages & Schedule screens
- Fixed player bio string saying "Canada passport" etc when it should have been "Canadian passport"
- Fixed filtered attribute columns not showing up when viewing filtered staff attributes in Staff Search.
- Fixed problem getting stuck on the date select dialog and bnot being able to change the date
- Fixed going to "Change Trade Offer" when the AI was about to negotiate the bid showing the negotiated bid rather than the original one.
- Added alternative view to the Waiver Wire screen to show some additional information
- Fixed Front Office Suspended Players panel from always saying players were banned for 1 game
- Enabled confirmation dialog when loan or trial cancelled, that tells you when the player is due to return/leave
- Stopped from being able to complain about the referee more than once per match
- Fixed a problem with the League table for AAL-4 where shootout losses were not being displayed.
- Stopped being able to negotiate a trade when a player is locked, meaing your player gets trade for nothing.

Competitions
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- Stage names for some all star games were appended with "Final". Not necessary.
- Tweaked scheduling for European club competitions
- Ensured Continental Competitions use the correct game rules.
- European Super Cup first year entered team changes
- olympic Final Qualification Tournament uses the correct game rules
- Updates some teams and dates of matches for the Euro Ice Hockey Challange - fixes some date clashes with European league fixtures
- Friendly tournaments are now played at the organising teams Arena, not Unknown Arena
- Ensured friendly tournaments use the rules specificed by the user.
- Fixed the hosts of the Olympic Hockey Tournament in 2010 sometimes being USA instead of Canada
- Fixed player stats tracking problem which caused non-rookies to be considered rookies (fixes both new games and saved games)
- Fixed no points being given for Shoot-out wins and losses in the Central Hockey league
- Removed the relegation stage from Danish league (applies to new games and ongoing saves, except for current season if stage already in process)
- Fixed development players rule for Central Hockey League
- Memorial Cup hosts are now stored in the competition history
- UK Elite Cup uses touch-up icing
- Fixed DEL all stars team having German players picked
- Fixed rookie players being deemed as rookies for 1 season longer than they should
- Fixed home ice advantage in DEL playoffs
- SWedish league playoffs now using automatic icing
- Fixed rare problem where the same team could be entered into two groups of the Euro Challenge Tour
- Playoff games in Finland are now played alternating Home & Away
- Fixed home ice advantage in Finnish National playoffs
- Fixed playoff seedings in Finnish First
- UK EPL Cup final is now a two-legged game.
- Fixed rookie rules for amateur players in some of the smaller european leagues
- Fixed wrong game order in ECHL south playoffs
- Fixed DEL win being processed as a Cup win not a league win.
- Fixed incorrect team sometimes being given the bronze medal in the Russian league
- Added re-entry waivers exclusion rule for veteran NHL players
- Fixed team relegated from the Russian Superleague not having the correct division (East or west) set
- Euro Challange Tour prize money added
- Fixed staff records getting added twice for making the NHL Playoffs when the team won the Presidents Trophy
- All CHL leagues now use Automatic icing


Transfer/Trade AI
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- Fixed trading of the rights to unattached prospects currently on trial
- Fixed returning from loan to the right team after being traded whilst being loaned out from a farm affiliate
- Tuned more native players to attend training camps as walk-ins where possible
- Fixed major junior signing issue of european imports with no club
- AI teams will consider buying players who are currently banned, unless than ban is long term
- Disabled trading during/before fantasy draft so humans cannot cheat
- Improved AI managers in signing their top draft picks

Roster Management
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- Russian player releases tweak, should not release players while shortlisting at the cap check, because they need to supply the second teams with players
- Removing a player from IR updates virtual players on roster
- Asking coach for lines during the game repeatedly without clearing them first will no longer mess up the lines
- Improved AI team's handling of signing their prospects to entry level deals
- Enforced the affiliation skater/goalie limits
- Improved AI for taking on loan players in the minor leagues
- Improved AI cap management
- Players no longer get placed on IR automatically when a longer injury occurs in a game coached by the head coach for the human managed team
- Fixed squad numbers being stolen by new arrivals where his preffered squad number is already in use at the team he is joining.
- Assistant GM will no longer make players available unless really forced to do so, if user has set GM options for assistant to keep player status'

Contracts
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- Finetuned NHL entry level contract demands
- Fixed counting of accrued NHL seasons to not count on-going season when determining free agency status
- Fixed contract extensions so that the last year of the existing contract is not re-negotiable in any case as per CBA
- Fixed an issue with some AI team non-playing staff not being on proper contracts
- Fixed issue of occasional maxed out wages for non-star players on AI teams
- Changed Central Hockey League default contract end date to end of June
- Stopped "Wants new contract" when it's illegal(CBA) to be offered one, and tuned this when we've just qualified for the playoffs
- Loan contracts now count towards the cap in the Russian League
- Increased the interest of young players to sign NHL contracts even when not considered a hot prospect
- Made sure players are removed from the waiver list when their contract expires.

Printouts
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- Fixed printing player statistics the heading label said "Team" for National sides and vice-versa.
- Fixed an error message printing team stats before a new season begins

Drafts
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- Fixed Fantasy Drafted players being added back into the draft pool, and the team who originally picked him not actually getting him
- Improved game created draft pool material
- Tweaked CHL Import draft availability and player interest

Finances
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- Finetuned board cap control in non-NHL leagues

News
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- Fixed a missing hyperlink in trade news, for the player whom the rejected team did not like
- Tweaks to training camp report news to single out a player for praise
- Fixed prize money news not being sent out
- Fixed when a player rejects a offer of a try-out the news item mentions that the reason is because scouts from the team that offered the try-out were watching him.
- Disabled response button on status clarification news item if the player had already moved teams after the request for status update
- Tweaked trade rumors (toned down the number of these created)
- Fixed player form news coming up outside of the season
- Trade rumour news item doesn't mention trading draft picks if the league doesn't use a draft.
- Ensured news gets to sent to humans about jobs they applied for but were unsuccessful in getting.
- Fixed "cannot continue" bug related to a waiver pickup / seeks assurances news
- UI improvements for trading: news items can now have multiple responses, and we can accept or reject trades without having to visit the trade screen
- Fixed news item stating number of Cup wins being one less than the actual figure
- Removed hyperlink from Fans Player of the Year news item, as history is not kept for this award.
- Fixed Prospect update news item speaking about goalies as "first line" players etc.
- Prospect update news still gets sent when human is on holiday


Other
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- Fog of war should be visible for free agents who were last playing in manager's nation
- Disabled manager speculation news for the first few days of a new game
- NEW_AFFILIATION and AFFILIATION_CHANGE config commands now support setting affiliation mode and maximum skater and goalie counts
- Fixed _ in team name in the score upload
- Tweaked morale for teams in the playoffs
- Re-working file/folder locations etc for Windows Vista support (user documents directory now checked for data files)
- Reduced fog of war for players offered to a team by an agent
- colourblind skin improvments
- Fixed numbers being retired when players are still playing

Assets
======

Data
====
- Fixed problem with Georgian language having no nation set.
- Made sure playrs like Jagr can speak English, and Quebec based players can speak French and English
- Fixed issues from the Data Forums - as many issues reported fixed as possible, particularly large Fin/Swe/Den threads
- OHL database brought up to scratch
- Updated rosters and data across all leagues
- New NHLers who have made their debuts in the 2006/07 season are added to NHL rosters (eg Kessel, Staal, Radulov etc)
- Removed duplicate officials
- Removed 'DELETE' staff
- Added missing NHL records

Awards
======
- Canadian Humanitarian of the year award was incorrectly associated with the OHL, now moved to Memorial Cup to encompass the entire CHL.
- vezina trophy now has a higher lower games played limit for eligibility
- Ensured that players who don't play many games don't win player of the season awards
- Russian Superleague MVP can't be a goalie


Translations
============
- Italian language added


2D Engine
============
- Tweaked player AI on dumping the puck in too eagerly
- Enforced no-change rule after icings
- Improved goalie AI to respect the no-go zone behind the goalline
- Improved linechanging AI
- Improved coaching AI when picking special teams
- Fixed puck getting stuck to netting too often
- Tweaked suspension frequency for players sent out to fight on purpose but not targeting specific players (ie. headhunting)
- Tweaked scoring levels
- Tweaked tracking of assists
- Tweaked penalty tracking
- Improved defensive AI
- Fixed possible issues with shootout takers in human games
- Tweaked highlight modes
- Fixed first shootout attempt not showing fully in highlights
- Fixed aggregate scores being doubled at the end of a shootout in the final leg
- Improved powerplay AI
- Tuned shorthanded scoring, ratings and fights in major juniors
- Fixed goalie stats sometimes not displaying for a goalie who came on for another mid game.
- Tweaked coach AI to consider injuries, ejections and benchings when asking coach for lines during a game

Mac
===
- Fixed Escape key not being handled
- Fixed a problem with leap years on the mac which lead to the existence of the 32nd of December
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Old 11-09-2006, 10:56 AM   #392
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Training Camp Bug - Running open camp, all players who arrive for open tryouts have last names that start with "C" or "B". I checked all other teams in league and it appeared to be the same.

News Bug - Read a news item on the NHL where it stated that a game ended in a 5-5 tie. Checked box score and saw where one team had won in shoot out.

Central specific bug?? - Saw two players in particular that I wanted to go after. Both where 36 years old and on the "trade block" by their respective teams. Approached both teams and only option was to "buy" player. Could not offer trade. I am not an expert in the Central Hockey League but I was not aware that the cash for player , transfer system, was used in any North American league.
I was so excited about the new version until I saw this. Does anything in the "final changelist" look like it addresses any of these? I didn't notice anything as I looked through it.
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Old 11-09-2006, 11:05 AM   #393
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WOOOHOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.sigames.com/downloads.php?type=view&id=372
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Old 11-09-2006, 11:20 AM   #394
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Damn, you beat me to it
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Old 11-09-2006, 11:25 AM   #395
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I'm scared about applying this to my existing save game, as I'm currently in a playoff positions
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Old 11-09-2006, 11:35 AM   #396
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Thanks Marc, can't wait to get home tonight to fire this baby up.
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Okay, now we are in business again.

The kids are gonna have to go to bed a bit earlier than usual tonight.
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Old 11-09-2006, 12:03 PM   #398
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Great, installing it now. This will be a good way to wait until FM and FOF patches are out, and then... damn i need days with 72 hours and to not to need to sleep or eat.
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Old 11-09-2006, 12:21 PM   #399
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Good job getting out such an impressive patch! Installing now!
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Old 11-09-2006, 06:32 PM   #400
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Does anyone know where I can find some updated face packs, and some staff face packs? I'm currently using one I downloaded for last year's version of the game, and the only one's I can find are the "card style" packs... which I think are ugly.
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