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Hold up! So no one is allowed to call you out on anything? IMO, you were being a troll for 1) bringing up a long dead conversation and 2) calling someone a racist in the same post. Now, you are going to use the "I was saying his comments were racist, not him," but that doesn't fly with me. You are what you do. If you think he made a racist comment then you think he is a racist. Personally, whether Jon is a racist or not is purely unimportant. What is important is that you made a personal attack against him.
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A new InsiderAdvantage/Majority Opinion poll for the Democratic primary runoff in Georgia’s 4th Congressional district shows challenger Hank Johnson maintaining his lead over incumbent U.S. Representative Cynthia McKinney by a full 15 percentage points as the runoff election looms closer. McKinney’s totals moved up from the last poll late last week, but she still sat well behind former DeKalb County Commissioner Johnson. Hank Johnson – 49 percent Cynthia McKinney – 34 percent Undecided – 17 percent. The tracking survey of 300 likely voters was conducted the evening of July 31, and has a margin of error of plus or minus six percent. “There has been some shift in African American voters in McKinney’s direction,” said InsiderAdvantage CEO Matt Towery. “However, the black vote remains split with local black leaders endorsing Johnson, who is trouncing McKinney among eligible white voters.” The winner of the August 8 runoff election will go on to face Republican challenger Catherine Davis in the November general election. |
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This was a true sentiment up here when Kwame Kilpatrick looked all but dead against Freeman Hendrix in his attempt to get re-elected mayor of Detroit. In the end, Kilpatrick still won. I would not be terribly surprised if a similar shift occurs to McKinney. Never underestimate how significant race will factor in, especially if it looks like whites have endorsed a candidate. Up here, obviously in the mayor's race, whites could not really make much of a difference considering the city is overwhelmingly black, but the perception that Hendrix was being favored by suburban whites seemed at least to allow a large chunk of Detroit voters to forgive Kilpatrick for all the shenanigans that went on during his first term and re-elect him. |
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Why ? Or am I missing the sarcasm ? Isn't getting her out of office a good thing for all parties concerned ? |
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Haha, the "face" of the left. Hilarious.
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Because the right has done such a good job, of course.
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Na na, na na na na, Hey Hey Hey ...
with 98% of precincts reporting Johnson 41,178 58.8% McKinney 28,832 41.2% Bye bye.
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Did Leiberman get hosed too?
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Lieberman also lost, though it was close. He's now going to run as an independent, though several prominent democrats (starting with the other CT Senator - Christopher Dodd) are trying to talk him out of it.
If he doesn't run as an independent, I've got $20 that says Bush finds a place for him for the final 2 years of his administration. |
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Speaking of this stuff,
Dutch's hero (Mr Tom Delay) announced that despite a judicial ruling saying that he cannot be replaced on the ballot, he is not going to run - the GOP is likely to support a write-in candidate to oppose the Democrat. Just off the top of my head - that is likely to serve as a huge disadvantage, IMO. |
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Lieberman is proof that if you stand up for what you believe is best and dont flip flop with the poles you will get voted out. and we wonder why all politicians are pole driven hypocrites, we wont vote for them if thier not.
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No, Lieberman tried to play that game as well, and lost: Joe Lieberman 8/6/2006: What I will say is this: I not only respect your right to disagree or question the President, I value it. I was part of the anti-war movement in the late 1960s, so I don't need to be lectured by Ned Lamont about the place of dissent in our democracy. Joe Lieberman 12/2005: It's time for Democrats who distrust President Bush to acknowledge that he will be the commander in chief for three more critical years and that in matters of war we undermine presidential credibility at our nation's peril. Joe Lieberman 8/6/2006: The fact is, I have openly and clearly disagreed with and criticized the President* for, among other things . . . not having a plan to win the peace Joe Lieberman 12/2005: Does America have a good plan for doing this, a strategy for victory in Iraq? Yes, we do. And it's important to make clear to the American people that the plan has not remained stubbornly still, but has changed over the years. Joe Lieberman 8/6/2006: I said that if I were President, I would ask Secretary Rumsfeld to resign. I first said that in October 2003.* Joe Lieberman 5/2004: [i]t is neither sensible nor fair to force the resignation of the secretary of defense, who clearly retains the confidence of the commander in chief, in the midst of a war. . . . Secretary Rumsfeld's removal would delight foreign and domestic opponents of America's presence in Iraq. *Both said once, and said while running to be the Democratic Presidential Nominee. Don't kid yourself, Lieberman's just as much a flip-flopper as anyone else out there. |
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So has she asked for a recount yet? Or was she too busy punching poll workers?
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Actually, she (so far) has stopped short of demanding a recount but was crying about mysterious "irregularities" as early as 2pm Tuesday. However, one of her bodyguards is being investigated for possible assault of a local TV cameraman. This same bodyguard (who one article cites as being 67 years old) was involved in a similar incident with a different station's reporter who attempted to question McKinney in DC following the police officer slapping. Perhaps not so coincidentally, McKinney took great pains last night to blame the media for her loss.
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I kinda had the same thought. I first heard the story on radio this afternoon & it didn't mention his age, but a short blurb on ajc.com mentioned it so I'm not sure whether it's accurate or a typo or what.
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If you change your position based on shifting public sentiment, that is flip flopping on the poles. If you refuse to change course and fail to face the reality that your policy is failing despire the obvious facts on the ground, and call anyone who critizes your failed policy as helping out the terrorists, that's not standing up for what you believe, that is cowardice and arrogance. Lieberman's loss and national Democratic frustration was not just because of his stance on the war. There are a number of Democratic hawks, including presidential candidates Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton, that are not being 'purged'. |
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The following Dems voted No on this one: Mark Dayton, Mary Landrieu, Joseph Lieberman, Ben Nelson, Bill Nelson and Mark Pryor Of those, Mark Dayton, Lieberman, Ben Nelson and Bill Nelson have terms that end in 2007, leaving them vulnerable to immediate backlash. Your “hawkish” call on Clinton and Biden is not supported by their vote on this bill as they voted with their party, Yes for the pull out. That vote separates them from Lieberman and the others that voted No for the pull out. The Republican party supported a No vote and the Democratic party supported a Yes vote. Clinton’s term is up in 2007 and Biden’s is up in 2009. The only current session votes where Clinton did not stand in line lock step with her party is regarding the Gulf of Mexico energy security act. A bill to enhance the energy independence and security of the United States by providing for exploration, development, and production activities for mineral resources in the Gulf of Mexico Their were actually 18 democrats that voted with the Republicans on that bill. Lieberman did not vote. Biden deviated from his party on two major issues. One Offered tax breaks and incentives in what supporters said was an effort to spur oil and gas companies to provide innovative ways to reduce the nation's dependence on foreign oil, conserve resources and reduce pollution. And the other Made it harder for people to erase debt by declaring bankruptcy. Lieberman deviated from his party on the following The amendment which called on the president to withdraw troops from Iraq, but set no firm deadline. And a bill which Sought to curtail the ability of plaintiffs to file class-action lawsuits against corporations by making cases that were filed in multiple states the responsibility of federal courts. Of the others who deviated on the Iraq pull out vote: Mark Dayton is not returning and Democrat Amy Klobuchar is running as the Dems choice against Republican Mark Kennedy. Ben Nelson is running for re-election in Nebraska a state that Bush carried with 66%. Nelson runs as centrist and claims to be an independent minded guy. Also, Dems probably know they need a centrist to win in Nebraska, so they are leaving Ben alone for now. Bill Nelson is running in Florida and is trending to win over Republican Katherine Harris. The Dems won’t oust Nelson because Florida is not a sure thing and changing horses could just as likely lose a seat. Lieberman was targeted because the Dems know a radical liberal can easily take Connecticut. Basically a Republican is not taking Connecticut. If the Dems thought the people in Nebraska and Florida were upset in the form of voting backlash, they would go after Ben Nelson and Bill Nelson too. |
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If you think that the war issue is as simple as a vote on whether or not to eventually withdraw troops, you are very mistaken. I doubt that more than a quarter of the voters in CT even know what Lieberman voted for on that issue.
If you think either Nelson would be fought against in a primary the same way as Lieberman, you are wrong. The issues with Lieberman are much more than just a Nay vote on whether to pull the troops out. And besides, primary challenges inolving incumbent moderates aren't that big of a deal. Specter barely won his primary here in PA two years ago against the highly conservative Toomey, now the head of the Club for Growth, and moderate R Lincoln Chafee is neck and neck with the conservative Laffey in the RI primary that is in September. |
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Is Mel Gibson her campaign manager? Didn't know that there was a large enough Jewish population in that district to swing the vote over to good 'ol Uncle Tom. I love how politicians will blame everyone and everything else for losing, but, will never blame themselves. This chick needs an MRI of her brain, something tells me there will be more blue and green areas than red and yellow.
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But it is amazing that a congressperson's troupe was shouting comments that were worse than Gibson's and it got almost no press. The video footage I saw was pretty much two different guys making the statements but McKinney was right next to them and did not show any reaction or attempt to distance herself from the comments. Last edited by Grammaticus : 08-14-2006 at 05:50 PM. |
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Maybe because that's pretty much the monologue that her dad has been screaming about consistently since she lost the first time around. Well, that and his whole bit about how "it's was also the gays fault because they abandoned us, so we're going to abandon them this time now that we're back in control" Oopsie. Guess that payback kinda got short-circuited at the polls.
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It's silly to pretend there's not a double standard in this country. Minorities are allowed to be racist, white people aren't.
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Ah, so true, Mel and his spin doctors trying to heal the wounds..... McKinney is a wack job no doubt and in my opinion by not distancing herself from those comments, she is just as guilty as if she had said them herself. But, then again, I guess you don't have to worry about making comments like that if the people you are talking about are not your constituents.
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Although if you picture him wearing a cheerleading costume while saying it, the whole thing becomes rather funny. Disturbing ... but funny.
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Wow, spelling it out like Toni Basil even. And Georgia isn't even a particularly Jewish state, having approximately half as many Jews as the national average.
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My bad. I must have been thinking about "The Chronic." 2002.
Stevew: I'd hazard a guess that, between Dunwoody and the Decatur/Emory/Lavista corridor, Cynthia's former District (not the whole state) has more Jews than the national average.
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Looks like she is going to run for president under the Green Party banner...
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