NFL week 11 thread - Page 8

jbergey22 · 11-20-2011, 07:29 PM

Some people will think this is crazy.

I have been having a debate with a friend about wanting the Vikings to sit AP for the rest of the year. These great backs have such a short career span where they are really great it doesnt make sense to me to use them games up in a meaningless season.

I compare it to LT 3-4 years ago when he was setting NFL records(same age as AP is now I believe) and 2 years later he was considered a backup at best.

I know the Vikings wont do it, the NFL wouldnt allow it, and a lot of fans wouldnt like it. But I think teams should consider saving their assets for when they can properly use them.

k0ruptr · 11-20-2011, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Yeah things are looking good with Palmer. McFadden is definitely a top 5 back (and probably top 3), but seems to always miss at least a few games each year. thankfully bush is solid. I think they will need dmac next week against the bears though

obviously Palmer is not the future, but nobody is on that roster. If Robert Griffin III comes out, Raiders should snag him.

jbergey22 · 11-20-2011, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by k0ruptr

obviously Palmer is not the future, but nobody is on that roster. If Robert Griffin III comes out, Raiders should snag him.

At last check Luck and Barkley were considered top 5 picks, RG3 was considered mid 1st(i think he doesnt have ideal height) and Landry Jones was considered late first. This will of course change a lot but it does seem early projections have RG3 ranked low.

k0ruptr · 11-20-2011, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Some people will think this is crazy.

I have been having a debate with a friend about wanting the Vikings to sit AP for the rest of the year. These great backs have such a short career span where they are really great it doesnt make sense to me to use them games up in a meaningless season.

I compare it to LT 3-4 years ago when he was setting NFL records(same age as AP is now I believe) and 2 years later he was considered a backup at best.

I know the Vikings wont do it, the NFL wouldnt allow it, and a lot of fans wouldnt like it. But I think teams should consider saving their assets for when they can properly use them.

it's sad to me how short of a time we get to watch these guys.

Danny · 11-20-2011, 07:34 PM

I think Palmer is the qb for the next few years, and they have prior who is an unknown. Still I wouldn't be opposed to griffin if he falls to the raiders first pick in the 3rd round

k0ruptr · 11-20-2011, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

At last check Luck and Barkley were considered top 5 picks, RG3 was considered mid 1st(i think he doesnt have ideal height) and Landry Jones was considered late first. This will of course change a lot but it does seem early projections have RG3 ranked low.

yea I was seeing 15-20, but thats if he comes out. If he comes back for his senior year hes probably a top 5 pick in 2013

Karlifornia · 11-20-2011, 07:36 PM

Jas lov is back....this is critical for the UIC in these NFL threads.

k0ruptr · 11-20-2011, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

I think Palmer is the qb for the next few years, and they have prior who is an unknown. Still I wouldn't be opposed to griffin if he falls to the raiders first pick in the 3rd round

Move Pryor to WR. I think hed go berzerk

Lathum · 11-20-2011, 07:43 PM

ARG!!!

Jake Ballard

BillJasper · 11-20-2011, 07:46 PM

Vince Young sucks. That is all.

Lathum · 11-20-2011, 07:46 PM

and Amakumura pays immediate dividends!

EagleFan · 11-20-2011, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

and Amakumura pays immediate dividends!

So does Eli.

EagleFan · 11-20-2011, 07:50 PM

EagleFan · 11-20-2011, 07:54 PM

At least he didn't call a fake punt there...

jbergey22 · 11-20-2011, 07:55 PM

Interesting short yardage play from the Eagles there. With a big athletic QB like Vince Young and not having a true power back it seems they should think about using the QB sneak a bit.

Dr. Sak · 11-20-2011, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Interesting short yardage play from the Eagles there. With a big athletic QB like Vince Young and not having a true power back it seems they should think about using the QB sneak a bit.

Never use common sense when trying to figure out what Andy Reid does.

EagleFan · 11-20-2011, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Interesting short yardage play from the Eagles there. With a big athletic QB like Vince Young and not having a true power back it seems they should think about using the QB sneak a bit.

It actually wasn;t a bad call, just piss poor execution by the guard.

jbergey22 · 11-20-2011, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

It actually wasn;t a bad call, just piss poor execution by the guard.

Yeah he was confused thats for sure.

SirFozzie · 11-20-2011, 08:29 PM

This game is not very good

Logan · 11-20-2011, 08:30 PM

Glazer reporting Cutler broke his right thumb.

sabotai · 11-20-2011, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

This game is not very good

Crappy games is what happens when neither offensive line is too interested in blocking.

Lathum · 11-20-2011, 08:34 PM

Eagles keep trying to give the game to the Giants and the Giants keep giving it back to them

sabotai · 11-20-2011, 08:34 PM

Thanks Desean!

Lathum · 11-20-2011, 08:35 PM

lol

Jackson got exactly what he deserved there. Stay classy

SirFozzie · 11-20-2011, 08:36 PM

Desean Jackson you ignorant slut

tucker rocky · 11-20-2011, 08:38 PM

Act like a fool, get treated like a fool.

jbergey22 · 11-20-2011, 08:40 PM

Desean always seems to live up to his rep on primetime.

tucker rocky · 11-20-2011, 08:41 PM

Incomplete, ball hit the ground.

SirFozzie · 11-20-2011, 08:42 PM

Can we give both teams a loss for this traveshamockery?

EagleFan · 11-20-2011, 08:51 PM

So Hall is back returning two punts and they kick it out of bounds. Then Jackson comes in and they kick it to him.

Lathum · 11-20-2011, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

So Hall is back returning two punts and they kick it out of bounds. Then Jackson comes in and they kick it to him.

You would think they would have learned at some point not to kick to him

tucker rocky · 11-20-2011, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

You would think they would have learned at some point not to kick to him

The Giants punter is actually Matt Dodge in disguise.

k0ruptr · 11-20-2011, 08:55 PM

I missed this Eli

Dr. Sak · 11-20-2011, 08:55 PM

Did Ballard mix up the Stick em spray with the Non-Stick Cooking oil spray?

tucker rocky · 11-20-2011, 08:59 PM

Looks like Ware got jacked.

sabotai · 11-20-2011, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

Did Ballard mix up the Stick em spray with the Non-Stick Cooking oil spray?

Seems so.

Lathum · 11-20-2011, 09:01 PM

This has been one of the hardest game in recent memory to watch

B & B · 11-20-2011, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

This has been one of the hardest game in recent memory to watch

You have the memory of a marmet.

I submit Jacksonville-Baltimore.

MNF 10-24

A true spectacle.

k0ruptr · 11-20-2011, 09:10 PM

Hey the good news for the Eagles is it seems Vince Young has turned into michael...no that can't be right. Oh yea he's still Vince Young! Statistically awful, yet still winning. Something like 30-17 as a starter. It's crazy. They need to let this guy mentor Tim Tebow.

Lathum · 11-20-2011, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by B & B

You have the memory of a marmet.

I submit Jacksonville-Baltimore.

MNF 10-24

A true spectacle.

lol, true. I should have meant as a Giants fan tough to watch

hoopsguy · 11-20-2011, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Glazer reporting Cutler broke his right thumb.

Pretty brutal, would assume he is out for awhile with that injury. The Bears have been playing about as well as I can recall them playing - in terms of a real balance between offense, defense, and special teams - in a long time. Probably since Rex looked like a Pro Bowler back when they started 7-0 in the Super Bowl year (2006?), although I see to recall the bloom being off their QB by about the 4th or 5th game.

Jas_lov · 11-20-2011, 09:12 PM

Desean Jackson is an idiot but shouldn't the catch have stood and the taunting penalty been enforced from where he went OOB? It didn't make sense for it to offset with the hands to the face penalty. One occurred during the play, the other after the play. If there's taunting or a personal foul after a TD it doesn't nullify the TD.

tucker rocky · 11-20-2011, 09:13 PM

Aaron Rodgers says he had a frustrating day, 23-34, 299, 3tds, 1 int.,
looks like a good day to me.
I'd be frustrated at the GB defense for keeping TB in the game.

EagleFan · 11-20-2011, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jas_lov

Desean Jackson is an idiot but shouldn't the catch have stood and the taunting penalty been enforced from where he went OOB? It didn't make sense for it to offset with the hands to the face penalty. One occurred during the play, the other after the play. If there's taunting or a personal foul after a TD it doesn't nullify the TD.

Thought that was the rule but not certain how that works.

tucker rocky · 11-20-2011, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Glazer reporting Cutler broke his right thumb.

Bears fans will now have to deal with Caleb Hanie at QB.

k0ruptr · 11-20-2011, 09:19 PM

Oh dear lord. I didn't think it was possible for the Bears to lean even more on Forte. He already accounts for like 55% of there offensive production. Poor guy he might die before he gets a new contract.

k0ruptr · 11-20-2011, 09:23 PM

Maybe if Tebow wins another game the Broncos will cut Kyle Orton. I smell a bears superbowl.

Jas_lov · 11-20-2011, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Thought that was the rule but not certain how that works.

It should have been a dead ball foul because it clearly occurred after the play was over. The Eagles should have been able to decline the hands to the face penalty and the taunting penalty enforced from where Jackson was down. Instead it was called offsetting penalties. If the Giants hadn't had the hands to the face penalty they would have enforced the taunting from the end of Jackson's catch so the Giants were rewarded for committing a penalty.

Lathum · 11-20-2011, 09:26 PM

Jacobs suck.

There, I said it.

Dr. Sak · 11-20-2011, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jas_lov

It should have been a dead ball foul because it clearly occurred after the play was over. The Eagles should have been able to decline the hands to the face penalty and the taunting penalty enforced from where Jackson was down. Instead it was called offsetting penalties. If the Giants hadn't had the hands to the face penalty they would have enforced the taunting from the end of Jackson's catch so the Giants were rewarded for committing a penalty.

Mike Pereira
Didn't see fouls but in NFL, live ball fouls combine with dead ball fouls and offset. In NCAA, both would be enforced but not in NFL.

Pereira is a former VP of NFL officiating.

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11-20-2011, 07:29 PM	#351
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Some people will think this is crazy. I have been having a debate with a friend about wanting the Vikings to sit AP for the rest of the year. These great backs have such a short career span where they are really great it doesnt make sense to me to use them games up in a meaningless season. I compare it to LT 3-4 years ago when he was setting NFL records(same age as AP is now I believe) and 2 years later he was considered a backup at best. I know the Vikings wont do it, the NFL wouldnt allow it, and a lot of fans wouldnt like it. But I think teams should consider saving their assets for when they can properly use them.

11-20-2011, 07:34 PM	#355
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I think Palmer is the qb for the next few years, and they have prior who is an unknown. Still I wouldn't be opposed to griffin if he falls to the raiders first pick in the 3rd round

11-20-2011, 07:43 PM	#359
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	ARG!!! Jake Ballard

11-20-2011, 07:46 PM	#361
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	and Amakumura pays immediate dividends!

11-20-2011, 07:55 PM	#365
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Interesting short yardage play from the Eagles there. With a big athletic QB like Vince Young and not having a true power back it seems they should think about using the QB sneak a bit.

11-20-2011, 08:30 PM	#370
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Glazer reporting Cutler broke his right thumb.

11-20-2011, 08:34 PM	#372
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Eagles keep trying to give the game to the Giants and the Giants keep giving it back to them

11-20-2011, 08:34 PM	#373
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Thanks Desean!

11-20-2011, 08:35 PM	#374
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	lol Jackson got exactly what he deserved there. Stay classy

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11-20-2011, 08:38 PM	#376
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	Act like a fool, get treated like a fool.

11-20-2011, 08:40 PM	#377
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Desean always seems to live up to his rep on primetime.

11-20-2011, 08:41 PM	#378
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	Incomplete, ball hit the ground.

11-20-2011, 08:42 PM	#379
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11-20-2011, 08:51 PM	#380
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11-20-2011, 08:55 PM	#383
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11-20-2011, 08:55 PM	#384
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Did Ballard mix up the Stick em spray with the Non-Stick Cooking oil spray?

11-20-2011, 08:59 PM	#385
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	Looks like Ware got jacked.

11-20-2011, 09:01 PM	#387
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	This has been one of the hardest game in recent memory to watch

11-20-2011, 09:10 PM	#389
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	Hey the good news for the Eagles is it seems Vince Young has turned into michael...no that can't be right. Oh yea he's still Vince Young! Statistically awful, yet still winning. Something like 30-17 as a starter. It's crazy. They need to let this guy mentor Tim Tebow. __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

11-20-2011, 09:12 PM	#392
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Desean Jackson is an idiot but shouldn't the catch have stood and the taunting penalty been enforced from where he went OOB? It didn't make sense for it to offset with the hands to the face penalty. One occurred during the play, the other after the play. If there's taunting or a personal foul after a TD it doesn't nullify the TD.

11-20-2011, 09:13 PM	#393
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	Aaron Rodgers says he had a frustrating day, 23-34, 299, 3tds, 1 int., looks like a good day to me. I'd be frustrated at the GB defense for keeping TB in the game.

11-20-2011, 09:19 PM	#396
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	Oh dear lord. I didn't think it was possible for the Bears to lean even more on Forte. He already accounts for like 55% of there offensive production. Poor guy he might die before he gets a new contract. __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

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11-20-2011, 09:26 PM	#399
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