OT: The FOFC Television Draft - Draft Thread

[Crapshoot]

I do like the Ken Burns pick - I might have been tempted to go with the baseball series, but Ken Burns at all was a damn good one.

[Schmidty]

Hold up the draft. I see a problem.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Hold up the draft. I see a problem.

I wonder (rhetorically) if you're wondering about the same thing I was wondering about.

edit to add: Nope, you were looking at something else.

[Schmidty]

WSU has too many Show picks, even taking in to account the Wildcard pick.

[Schmidty]

Snipped from ML's rules on the first page:

"Each team will consist ten picks, made up of:

Three selections from each of the following categories:
- Drama
- Comedy
- Other

In addition, your ten picks must include three selections from each of the following "positions":
- Shows
- Performers
- Moments

Note that you can mix and match however you see fit. For example, you could choose three drama shows, three comedy performers, and three "other" moments. Alternatively, you could choose one of each possible combination. It's up to you.

That makes nine picks. Your tenth pick is a wildcard, and can be any position/category combo."

[Crapshoot]

Yeah, I've been trying to meet my limits - its getting really hard right about now, because I ignored the drama and moment categories earlier..

[WSUCougar]

Okay, I am an idiot. It suddenly occurs to me that I have been approaching this whole thing as 3/3/3 per category + WC, not 3/3/3 + WC total. I am screwed...

[WSUCougar]

And I'm not sure how to fix it.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by WSUCougar

Okay, I am an idiot. It suddenly occurs to me that I have been approaching this whole thing as 3/3/3 per category + WC, not 3/3/3 + WC total. I am screwed...

Well, it might be tough, but I think you should be able to fill the spots you need in the next 3 rounds. From what I just looked at, it's mathematically possible.

Go ahead and fix your picks. Take your time.

[WSUCougar]

Well, unless I retroactively change categories for picks, which ML disallowed early on, I have already ruined the integrity of the thing.

Edit: I guess with the Wild Card I'm okay.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by WSUCougar

Okay, I am an idiot. It suddenly occurs to me that I have been approaching this whole thing as 3/3/3 per category + WC, not 3/3/3 + WC total. I am screwed...

I'm not sure if I'm reading what you meant to write, but ... how I'm reading you is right (I believe): 9 picks must cover the 3/3/3 and the 10th pick can be whatever you come up with, which very likely (or definitely?) create 4th selections in two categories.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by WSUCougar

And I'm not sure how to fix it.

Ok, let's see here:

You have:

3 Shows, so you are good there
2 Moments, so you need one more
1 Actor, so you need 2 more

4 Drama, so you cannot have more and you'll have to make one of the picks into you Wildcard
2 Comedy, so you need 1 more
1 Other, so you need 2 more

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Ok, let's see here:

You have:

3 Shows, so you are good there
2 Moments, so you need one more
1 Actor, so you need 2 more

4 Drama, so you cannot have more and you'll have to make one of the picks into you Wildcard
2 Comedy, so you need 1 more
1 Other, so you need 2 more

Basically, you're going to have to mix and match 2 Comedy and 1 Other with 1 Moment and 2 Actors.

It'll be tough, but like I said, you didn't ruin the game or anything.

[Schmidty]

By the way, go ahead and delete the post where you made your picks, and I'll delete my response to it.

[WSUCougar]

Sorry, everyone.

Okay...I'll keep Ken Burns' Civil War as a Show/Other, ditch Gilligan, pick up the “don’t bring up the war in front of the Germans” scene of Fawlty Towers with John Cleese, and consider MASH as my Wild Card. That gives me:

Shows: Star Trek (other), Ken Burns Civil War (other), and The Sopranos (drama)

Performers: Kelsey Grammer (comedy), James Garner (drama)

Moments: St. Elsewhere (drama), WKRP (comedy), Fawlty Towers (comedy)

Wild Card: MASH

Now I need an “Other” performer and I’m done. That look okay?

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by WSUCougar

Sorry, everyone.

Okay...I'll keep Ken Burns' Civil War as a Show/Other, ditch Gilligan, pick up the “don’t bring up the war in front of the Germans” scene of Fawlty Towers with John Cleese, and consider MASH as my Wild Card. That gives me:

Shows: Star Trek (other), Ken Burns Civil War (other), and The Sopranos (drama)

Performers: Kelsey Grammer (comedy), James Garner (drama)

Moments: St. Elsewhere (drama), WKRP (comedy), Fawlty Towers (comedy)

Wild Card: MASH

Now I need an “Other” performer and I’m done. That look okay?

That hurts my brain, but it looks good to me.

Go ahead and post and bold the two picks, so that people know your udated picks, and because I'm anal.

[Schmidty]

Since I can't edit ML's first page list, I'll just copy it here:

Team #1 - WSUCougar
1.1 Show, drama - MASH
2.10 Show, other - Star Trek
3.1 Moment, comedy - "As God as my witness, I thought turkeys could fly." (WKRP)
4.10 Actor, comedy - Kelsey Grammer (Frasier)
5.1 Show, drama - The Sopranos
6.10 Performer, drama - James Garner (Rockford Files)
7.1 Moment, drama - Final episode when it's revealed that the show was all an autistic boy's imagination (St. Elsewhere)
8.10 Show, other - Ken Burns' Civil War
9.1 Moment, comedy - John Cleese trying not to mention the war in front of the German guests at the hotel (Fawlty Towers)

Team #2 - Radii
1.2 Moment, drama - Who Shot JR? (Dallas)
2.9 Performer, comedy - Bill Cosby (The Cosby Show)
3.2 Moment, other - Ali vs. Foreman, the Rumble in the Jungle (ABC's Wide World of Sports)
4.9 Show, comedy - South Park
5.2 Show, drama - Hill Street Blues
6.9 Performer, comedy - Billy Crystal (Soap)
7.2 Show, other - The Price is Right
8.9 Show, other - Sesame Street
9.2 Other, moment - Geraldo's nose is broken during a brawl between guests on his show (Geraldo)

Team #3 - Crapshoot
1.6 Show, comedy - Cheers*
2.5 Performer, comedy - Henry Winkler (Happy Days)
2.8 Moment, comedy - Dick wakes up next to Emily Hartley (Newhart)*
4.5 Show, drama - The Wonder Years*
5.3 Performer, other - Walter Cronkite (CBS Evening News)
6.8 Show, comedy - Friends
7.3 Perfomer, other - Michael J.Fox as Alex Keaton (Family Ties)
8.8 Moment, drama - The death of Claire Kincaid (Law and Order)
9.3 Moment, other - Futarama - the one with Fry's dog (Futurama)

Team #4 - JonInMiddleGA
1.9 Show, drama - Gunsmoke*
2.2 Show, other - Hockey Night in Canada*
3.4 Performer, comedy - Dick Van Dyke (The Dick Van Dyke Show)
4.7 Moment, comedy - The brownie episode (Barney Miller)
5.4 Show, drama - Playhouse 90
6.7 Moment, drama - Final episode "Fall Out" as Number 6 finally meets Number 1 ... and discovers that the enemy is us. (The Prisoner)
7.4 Moment, other - Racer X identity revealed (Speed Racer)
8.7 Performer, other - Walt Disney (Wonderful World of Disney)
9.4 Performer, comedy - Robin Williams (Mork & Mindy)

Team #5 - ThunderingHERD
1.5 Performer, other - Johnny Carson (The Tonight Show)
2.6 Moment, other - Edward R. Murrow vs Joseph McCarthy (See It Now)
3.5 Show, drama - The Twilight Zone
4.6 Moment, comedy - Ellen comes out (Ellen)
5.5 Performer, comedy - Andy Griffith (The Andy Griffith Show)
6.6 Moment, drama - Sam leaps in to Lee Harvey Oswald (Quantum Leap)
7.5 Show, other - Meet the Press
8.6 Performer, drama - Peter Falk (Columbo)
9.5 Show, Comedy - The Office

Team #6 - kcchief19
1.3 Moment, comedy - The Outing (Seinfeld)*
3.3 Moment, comedy - Chuckles the Clown Dies (The Mary Tyler Moore Show)*
3.6 Performer, other - David Letterman (Late Night)
4.8 Show, drama - Perry Mason
5.6 Moment, drama - Love's Labor Lost episode (ER)
6.5 Performer, other - Carol Burnett (The Carol Burnett Show)
7.6 Show, drama - NYPD Blue
8.5 Other, show - Nightline
9.6 Moment, other - Jim Valvano's "Don't Ever Give Up" Speech (ESPY Awards)

Team #7 - Maple Leafs / Anxiety
1.7 Performer, comedy - Lucille Ball (I Love Lucy)
2.4 Moment, other - Howard Cossell announces the death of John Lennon (Monday Night Football)
3.7 Moment, drama - Richard Kimble catches the one-armed man (The Fugitive)
4.4 Show, drama - Roots
5.7 Show, comedy - Monty Python's Flying Circus
6.4 Performer, drama - Keifer Sutherland (24)
7.7 Performer, other - Fred Rogers (Mr. Rogers Neighborhood)
8.4 Show, Other - The Oprah Winfrey Show
9.7 Moment, comedy - When a child molester tries to sexually molest Arnold and friend (Diff'rent Strokes)

Team #8 - Schmidty
1.8 Show, comedy - All in the Family
2.3 Performer, comedy - Jackie Geason (The Honeymooners)
3.8 Performer, drama - Patrick Stewart (Star Trek: The Next Generation)
4.3 Show, other - 60 Minutes
5.8 Show, drama - The X-Files
6.3 Moment, other - Kermit sings "It's Not Easy Being Green" for the first time (The Muppet Show)
7.8 Moment, other - Bill Clinton plays the saxophone on The Arsenio Hall Show (The Arsenio Hall Show)
8.3 Moment, comedy - "Is Wayne Brady gonna have to choke a bitch?" (Chappelle's Show)
9.8 Performer, drama - Michael Landon (Little House on the Prairie)

Team #9 - Raven
1.4 Moment, other - The Beatles make their first televised appearance in America (The Ed Sullivan Show)*
2.7 Show, other - Sportscenter*
3.9 Moment, other - Johnny Fairplay lies about the death of his grandmother (Survivor)
4.2 Performer, other - Kurt Cobain (MTV's Unplugged)
5.9 Performer, comedy - Redd Foxx (Sanford and Son)
6.2 Moment, comedy - Moment, Comedy - Al 's dream sequence reliving his 4 TD game from Polk High (Married... with Children)
7.9 Show, drama - Nip/Tuck
8.2 Moment, drama - When we found out Locke was in a wheelchair before the plane crash (Lost)
9.9 Show, drama - Stephen King's IT
10.2 Performer, comedy - Jim Carey (In Living Color)



Team #10 - sachmo71
1.10 Show, comedy - The Simpsons
2.1 Show, comedy - Saturday Night Live
3.10 Show, drama - CSI
4.1 Moment, other - Ken Jennings loses in his bid to win his 75th game (Jeopardy!)
5.10. Performer, comedy - Jack Klugman (The Odd Couple)
6.1. Moment, other - "That would be in the ass, Bob." (The Newlywed Game)
7.10 Moment, Drama, Laura Palmer's killer revealed (Twin Peaks)
8.1 Performer, Other, Judge Wapner (People's Court)
9.10 Performer, drama - Nathan Fillion (Firefly)
10.1 Show, comedy - Arrested Development

*via trade

Shows that have been taken:
24
60 Minutes
ABC's Wide World of Sports
All in the Family
The Andy Griffith Show
The Arsenio Hall Show
Arrested Development
Barnie Miller
CBS Evening News
The Carol Burnett Show
Cheers
Chappelle's Show
Columbo
The Cosby Show
CSI
Dallas
The Dick Van Dyke Show
Diff'rent Strokes
The Ed Sullivan Show
Ellen
ER
ESPY Awards
Family Ties
Fawlty Towers
Firefly
Frasier
Friends
The Fugitive
Futurama
Geraldo
Gunsmoke
Happy Days
Hill Street Blues
Hockey Night in Canada
The Honeymooners
I Love Lucy
It
Jeopardy!
Ken Burns' Civil War
Late Night
Law and Order
Little House on the Prairie
Lost
Married... with Children
The Mary Tyler Moore Show
MASH
Meet the Press
Mr. Rogers Neighborhood
Monday Night Football
Monty Python's Flying Circus
Mork & Mindy
MTV's Unplugged
The Muppet Show
Newhart
The Newlywed Game
Nightline
NYPD Blue
The Odd Couple
The Oprah Winfrey Show
Perry Mason
Playhouse 90
The Price is Right
The Prisoner
Quantum Leap
Rockford Files
Roots
St. Elsewhere
Sanford and Son
Saturday Night Live
See It Now
Seinfeld
Sesame Street
The Simpsons
Soap
The Sopranos
South Park
Sportscenter
Star Trek
Star Trek: The Next Generation
Survivor
The Tonight Show
The Twilight Zone
WKRP
The Wonder Years
Wonderful World of Disney
The X-Files

[WSUCougar]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Go ahead and post and bold the two picks, so that people know your udated picks, and because I'm anal.

Post #348 (edited) okay? Or again?

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by WSUCougar

Post #348 (edited) okay? Or again?

No, it's cool. I hadn't looked back, but now I see it. Thanks.

[Schmidty]

Radii is on the clock

[WSUCougar]

No prob. Sorry for the screw up on my part.

*We now return you to your regularly-scheduled program.*

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by WSUCougar

No prob. Sorry for the screw up on my part.

*We now return you to your regularly-scheduled program.*

No sweat man. I already made a big flub too with the Anxiety situation. Mistakes happen.

[Radii]

since all looks well w/ WSUCougar's picks, here we go:

9.2 - Other - Moment - Geraldo's nose is broken during a brawl between guests on his show

Not the greatest television in the world, but I think its safe to say that most people have at least heard of this moment and seen a replay of it, which is what I'm going for in my picks. Geraldo had a group of neo-nazis on stage with groups of black and jewish activists, they (suprise, suprise) didn't get along so well and a fight broke out. Geraldo got hit by a chair and broke his nose.

[Schmidty]

Via list, Crapshoot selects:

9.3 Moment, other - Futarama - the one with Fry's dog (Futurama)

[Schmidty]

Via list, JonInMiddleGA selects:

9.4 Performer, comedy - Robin Williams (Mork & Mindy)

[Crapshoot]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Via list, Crapshoot selects:

9.3 Moment, other - Futarama - the one with Fry's dog (who dies waiting for him) (Futurama)

sorry, I was back - so I don't need my list in operation anymore. But in this case, I'm fine with the pick. Just a refinement - I can say its the single saddest cartoon I've ever seen in my life.

[Schmidty]

ThunderingHERD is on the clock

He's on right now, so I'm assuming he'll pick.

[ThunderingHERD]

Ok, I had a long post typed out then I got the ol' gamespy maintenance deal when i tried to post it.

To recap, I'm going to pass up all the big name cheesy sitcoms still on the board and pick what i think is the best sitcom ever: The Office(UK).

[kcchief19]

I sent my list to Schmidty, but since I'm here I'll go ahead and post it myself:

Wildcard (moment)-Wildcard (other): ESPY Awards: Jim Valvano's "Don't Ever Give Up" Speech.

I still remember watching this in my dorm room with my buddies on one of the first if not the first ESPY Awards. What a powerful moment. The strength of will that man had -- he didn't have the ability to walk up on stage, and yet he delivered one of the most powerful and passionate speeches I've ever seen.

It was also a moment that transcended the show and sports -- the Jimmy V Foundation, which uses the refrain "Don't give up ... Don't ever give up" as its slogan has raised millions for cancer research.

[Abe Sargent]

I'm going to take a moment that changed sitcoms and created a trend that would continue for years in sitcoms (The "very special episodes")

9.7 - Moment, Comedy - When a child molester tries to sexually molest Arnold and friend - Diff'rent Strokes


-Anxiety

[Radii]

Originally Posted by kcchief19

I still remember watching this in my dorm room with my buddies on one of the first if not the first ESPY Awards. What a powerful moment. The strength of will that man had -- he didn't have the ability to walk up on stage, and yet he delivered one of the most powerful and passionate speeches I've ever seen.

Shit. You win.

[Schmidty]

Sorry guys. I was about to post from kcchief's list last night, but the board died and I went to bed. I just woke up and will be making my pick shortly.

[Schmidty]

Most of you guys will think this pick is lame, but I loved this show growing up, and this guy was the heart of the show, and an amazing actor:

9.8 Performer, drama - Michael Landon (Little House on the Prairie)

[Schmidty]

By the way:

Raven is on the clock.

[sachmo71]

bump to page 1.

[oykib]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Most of you guys will think this pick is lame, but I loved this show growing up, and this guy was the heart of the show, and an amazing actor:

9.8 Performer, drama - Michael Landon (Little House on the Prairie)

I think it's a great pick. Getting the show is top notch. There are too many moments to really get a best moment. But snagging Michael Landon, who was one of the biggest stars in TV history was a great move.

You probably also could've scored with Melissa Gilbert as one of the top child stars. But Landon was probably the best way to go.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by oykib

I think it's a great pick. Getting the show is top notch. There are too many moments to really get a best moment. But snagging Michael Landon, who was one of the biggest stars in TV history was a great move.

You probably also could've scored with Melissa Gilbert as one of the top child stars. But Landon was probably the best way to go.

Thanks man.

This is embarrassing to admit, but Michael Landon is the only guy that could make me cry at the drop of a hat. When his lip started quivering and the voice choked up, I was done.

[Raven]

Show, Drama - (Stephen King's) IT


How many people were scared of clowns because of this movie?

[Sublime 2]

Originally Posted by Raven

Show, Drama - (Stephen King's) IT


How many people were scared of clowns because of this movie?

Yeah still am to this day.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Raven

Show, Drama - (Stephen King's) IT


How many people were scared of clowns because of this movie?

Solid pick.

[Schmidty]

sachmo71 is on the clock

[sachmo71]

9.10. Performer, Drama. Nathan Fillion, Firefly

Had to have Firefly in my stable.

10.1. Wildcard. Show, Comedy, Arrested Development

Funny stuff!

[Crapshoot]

Bastard! You stole the ones I was thinking of!

[Schmidty]

Via list, Raven selects:

10.2 Performer, comedy - Jim Carey (In Living Color)

[Crapshoot]

To finish: I don't know when I draft.

[Crapshoot]

woops. I'm an idiot. I'll delete that..

[Abe Sargent]

Don't worry crapshoot - I'm not taking it from ya

-Abe

[Schmidty]

Hehe. No problem man.

[Schmidty]

This is my wildcard pick:

10.3 Performer, comedy - Sherman Hemsley (The Jeffersons)

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

This is my wildcard pick:

10.3 Performer, comedy - Sherman Hemsley (The Jeffersons)

That's a nice pick. Understated.

-Anxiety