ESPN College Hoops 2k5 - Page 8

General Mike · 02-07-2005, 05:23 PM

I finally picked up College Hoops 2k5 and NHL 2k5 the other day. Good stuff.

Radii · 02-07-2005, 06:09 PM

I just finished my 2nd season with Campbell... 3-24 my first season, I improved to 8-17, all wins in conference play. I'll have my best season yet in season 3, BUT, I have 6 scholarships players graduating this year and a tight crap-school budget to replace them with, so next year's team will probably go winless and I'll get fired.

Balldog · 02-07-2005, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radii

I just finished my 2nd season with Campbell... 3-24 my first season, I improved to 8-17, all wins in conference play. I'll have my best season yet in season 3, BUT, I have 6 scholarships players graduating this year and a tight crap-school budget to replace them with, so next year's team will probably go winless and I'll get fired.

Are you playing, simming or coaching?

Radii · 02-07-2005, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Balldog

Are you playing, simming or coaching?

Playing about half of my games... simming any game that I know i'm toast in, and playing about 3/4 of my conference games. If I get behind by 20 in the first half or what I feel to be insurmountable in the 2nd I auto-sim to the finish.

Playing on the hardest level with some guy's sliders that were referred to here, with changes made to the fatigue so there are occasional substitutions, and playing 17 minutes instead of 15.

I generally lose to teams rated 5 or more points better than me overall, and go about 50/50 vs everyone else.

I've never actually played a game against a team rated the same or worse than me(campbell starts out pretty rough).

henry296 · 02-07-2005, 09:46 PM

Does anyone know if the game calculates the RPI correctly? In my season, Tennessee Tech is #3 in the RPI at 19-3 with many Majors with 3 or 4 losses. Penn is #15 with a 15-6 record. This is the 2004-5 season.

MrIllini · 02-09-2005, 04:01 PM

FYI-

for those getting the 'CPU recruiting' freeze when simulating

I got the same freeze, and used the suggestions from OS about saving new/deleting user profiles and settings from a new legacy then reloading old legacy to get the freeze to go away

I'm two seasons past that freeze now with no issues

bob · 02-10-2005, 06:54 AM

Can you be a little more specific about the exact steps to fix the recruiting freeze (or provide a link)?

Thanks....

illinifan999 · 02-10-2005, 07:00 AM

Despite the bugs, I'm still into this game. I was able to get a good recruiting class my first season and it's been all uphill from there for NCST. I got a kid from Germany who reminds me of Luther Head. His senior year he was the ACC Player of the year, and my first all-american. It's really fun to be able to recruit the high school all americans, and then see them play at the end of the year in the high school game. Now I'm just waiting for Illinois to give me an offer, *crosses fingers*

MrIllini · 02-10-2005, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by bob

Can you be a little more specific about the exact steps to fix the recruiting freeze (or provide a link)?

Thanks....

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try either of those Bob

Pumpy Tudors · 02-16-2005, 01:07 AM

I can do highlight reels now, and I can do them pretty quickly, too. The only problem is that the files are so big.

Hosting isn't an issue, and neither is bandwidth for me, but I can't imagine people spending the time to download 1-2 meg AVI files or waiting for 2 meg GIF files to download. Perhaps I should stick with screenshots for now. I'm going to continue to fiddle with compression settings (possibly lowering color depth and resolution some more), but I don't know how far I can realistically take this.

At least I'll have the highlight reels on my own computer for viewing.

Radii · 02-16-2005, 08:50 AM

I would think that for most of us a 2 meg AVI is nothing. High speed people!!

Oh, and in my 3rd season Campbell is 7-4 so far and leading the Atlantic Sun. My best player and a bunch of reserves are graduating so I am really hoping I can win my conference tourney this year.

MizzouRah · 02-16-2005, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

I can do highlight reels now, and I can do them pretty quickly, too. The only problem is that the files are so big.

Hosting isn't an issue, and neither is bandwidth for me, but I can't imagine people spending the time to download 1-2 meg AVI files or waiting for 2 meg GIF files to download. Perhaps I should stick with screenshots for now. I'm going to continue to fiddle with compression settings (possibly lowering color depth and resolution some more), but I don't know how far I can realistically take this.

At least I'll have the highlight reels on my own computer for viewing.

I would love to see these highlights. Would make for a really interesting dynasty thread.

Show us the goods!

Todd

Ryno · 02-16-2005, 04:31 PM

We (Evansville) were undefeated going into the NCAA Tournament in my fourth season. I managed to get a 1 seed and spanked my first round opponent (Oral Roberts) 82-29.

The second round game was against 9 seed Stanford. Despite having a 93 overall rating, they were only 20-10 before they played me. I was down 54-56 with 9:34 to go in the game, but I let it slip away from me, and ended up losing 73-88. Needless to say, I was very disappointed.

I'm five games into my fifth season with four wins (including #3 Syracuse) and a tough loss at Kentucky.

Pumpy Tudors · 02-16-2005, 07:38 PM

As a test, below are some quick highlights from the first half of my conference showdown with North Texas. My Privateers were getting blown out 39-23 at the half, and things didn't really improve later.

UNO gets off to a good start with a three-pointer from starting PG Todd Bostic

UNO's best player, sophomore SG Bo McCalebb, shows us why he's got a shot at All-Conference as he darts through the Mean Green defense and lays in a beautiful circus shot

The game starts to fall apart as the North Texas forward slams one home to put the Mean Green on a 10-2 run

The run extends to 24-5 with this three pointer

McCalebb tries to get UNO back into the game all by himself with another crazy lay-in

Little-used UNO reserve Jacob Manning scores the most amusing play of the half with a jam that flattens both an opponent and a teammate (talk about being in the wrong place at the wrong time)

I intend to be more selective with the highlights (6 per half is probably a tad much), but I just wanted to show off a little of what I've grabbed so far.

MizzouRah · 02-16-2005, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

As a test, below are some quick highlights from the first half of my conference showdown with North Texas. My Privateers were getting blown out 39-23 at the half, and things didn't really improve later.

UNO gets off to a good start with a three-pointer from starting PG Todd Bostic

UNO's best player, sophomore SG Bo McCalebb, shows us why he's got a shot at All-Conference as he darts through the Mean Green defense and lays in a beautiful circus shot

The game starts to fall apart as the North Texas forward slams one home to put the Mean Green on a 10-2 run

The run extends to 24-5 with this three pointer

McCalebb tries to get UNO back into the game all by himself with another crazy lay-in

Little-used UNO reserve Jacob Manning scores the most amusing play of the half with a jam that flattens both an opponent and a teammate (talk about being in the wrong place at the wrong time)

I intend to be more selective with the highlights (6 per half is probably a tad much), but I just wanted to show off a little of what I've grabbed so far.

I get a codec error? Weird.

Todd

Pumpy Tudors · 02-16-2005, 07:57 PM

Ehm, Google "defilerpak" and install that, maybe. I'm using the DivX 5.2.1 codec to compress, I think.

MizzouRah · 02-16-2005, 08:12 PM

Ever since I installed Mediaplayer 10, I can't play a whole lot.

Todd

Pumpy Tudors · 02-16-2005, 08:17 PM

I don't know how the Defiler Pak coincides with Media Player 10, but it hasn't failed me yet.

MizzouRah · 02-16-2005, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

Ehm, Google "defilerpak" and install that, maybe. I'm using the DivX 5.2.1 codec to compress, I think.

You the man!

Thanks Pumpy, the videos look great!!

Todd

Radii · 02-16-2005, 08:35 PM

Awesome!

henry296 · 02-16-2005, 08:39 PM

I just had some strange tournament selections.

I was playing as Penn and finished 13-1 in the Ivy league and got a #8 seed. Brown also made the tourney from the Ivy. However they finished 5th in the league at 5-9 and 12-14 overall, with a RPI of 200. I think they gave me an At-large bid and then picked Brown automatically but the alpha bug picked.

Anyone else see this?

Todd

illinifan999 · 02-17-2005, 05:54 PM

I was thinking about the conference champions bug. This is just a theory but I've noticed that any of the teams that win the conference title every year because of the alphabetical bug never show up on the job lists. Has anyone noticed this too? What I'm thinking is that the since the game treats these the regular season conference champions maybe the coaches are immune to being fired? If anyone can prove this wrong I'd be thrilled because then it would mean I would have a chance to coach Illinois. If it is just one of the many bugs in this game...

Radii · 02-21-2005, 06:10 PM

I just had a back and forth game as Campbell against Florida Atlantic, they played a good man to man defense and my normal post game was just not working at all, my star PG had to take the game over himself. He finished with 38 points and 8 assists in a 78-72 win, the highlight being a 3 pointer as time expired in regulation to tie the game at 69 all and send it into overtime. I won easily in OT. I know there are bugs, but playing more casually I don't notice them as fast I guess.

Scoobz0202 · 02-21-2005, 10:03 PM

I'm a moron. I finally bought the Action Replay tool to use for the real rosters. I was all excited, opened the box, and was confused. I didn't see how the thing in the box was compatible with a PC/Xbox.

It was the Gamecube, or some other Game something, Action Replay. Went to the store, and they don't have the Xbox one. In other words, I took 20 bucks and threw it in the trash. Sweet.

bob · 02-22-2005, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MrIllini

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try either of those Bob

Unfortunately, all this did was make the game freeze during simulation of the Utah / UNLV game one day earlier than the previous freeze during recruiting.

At least Utah always won.

wade moore · 02-22-2005, 06:55 AM

Pumpy:

Videos are awesome.. I'm quite jealous of the fact that you have the technology to do this...

Radii · 02-22-2005, 10:58 AM

So going into this season I knew I better win since I had my two best players graduating. And I did win, went 17-9, though i lost in an upset in the first round of the Atlantic Sun tourney.

my contract was extended for four years and I got my first job offers, though all of them for teams in the few conferences that are even worse than the A-Sun, so I turned them down.

Now, my problems begin.

Last season I had 6 seniors graduating(though only 3 of any consequence). I recruited 3 decent 3 star guys, one of them looks like he could be an offensive powerhouse, definitely a star at this level. I didn't land anyone else. So I still have 3 spots open going into this year. I look this season, and I have FIVE more scholarship players graduating. 3 starters. So now, on Campbell's crappy ass budget, I have 8 spots to try and fill.

I know I'm going to redshirt all 3 of my freshmen this year since none of them would see much playing time and all desparately need to improve, and hope that I can go .500 again w/o my two stars from last season. But i have no idea how to try to recruit to salvage this situation. My first instinct is to just go after 3 or 4 solid 3 star players again and just accept that I'm going to leave a lot of holes open again for next year. I just can't see myself stooping down to the 2 star guys who are rated with a D in every category except for one where that's a C or something horrid like that.

WHEE

wade moore · 02-22-2005, 11:46 AM

Radii,

I'm doing an open dynasty but with William and Mary (who is about equal to Campbell).. and it seems like I can get walk-ons that are as good as 1 and 2 stars, so I totally don't bother with recruiting them..

Radii · 02-22-2005, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

Radii,

I'm doing an open dynasty but with William and Mary (who is about equal to Campbell).. and it seems like I can get walk-ons that are as good as 1 and 2 stars, so I totally don't bother with recruiting them..

Yeah that's what I figured. I think I have all my eggs in one basket, my freshman who is already rated above 70 in all of the shooting categories I believe. With a redshirt year this year hopefully he can be a star for me for 4 seasons. If i can get a rebounder and a spot shooter for 3s at this level that's probably all I need.

Pumpy Tudors · 02-22-2005, 05:43 PM

I intend to play at least one game tonight. Highlights will follow, of course.

My team's record is absolutely pitiful, so don't be surprised if my Privateers lose. We shall see in a few hours.

digamma · 02-22-2005, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henry296

I just had some strange tournament selections.

I was playing as Penn and finished 13-1 in the Ivy league and got a #8 seed. Brown also made the tourney from the Ivy. However they finished 5th in the league at 5-9 and 12-14 overall, with a RPI of 200. I think they gave me an At-large bid and then picked Brown automatically but the alpha bug picked.

Anyone else see this?

Todd

Maybe this is an Ivy League only bug, since they don't have a conference tournament?

Pumpy Tudors · 02-22-2005, 11:51 PM

Well, my net connection is pretty wonky tonight, so I'll upload the videos tomorrow night. I beat the mighty Denver Pioneers! Woohoo!

wade moore · 02-23-2005, 06:18 AM

I'm beggining to be a bit concerned..

I'm playing on MOP with William and Mary.. .I have about the talent that you would expect.. my highest guys are 79, 78, and 75... but I'm crushing people.. including UNC.. my next game is against #5 FLA.. If I crush them also I'm going to start to wonder about my long-term interest in the game... although I lose all of my starters this year, and the backups are rough.. and recruiting looks bad this year (made too much of a push on a 5 star guy who i doubt will go with me)...

Anyway.. I'm getting concerned about the 'challenge'.. anyone else have that problem?

fflix · 02-28-2005, 01:38 PM

has anyone had this happen to them? i read somewhere that if you don't save on a gameday, your recruiting list won't get lost. so i played a game, saved it on the day after, and turned off the xbox. after coming back to the game and loading the legacy, the recruiting list was intact and i did my recruiting for the week. Before simulating to the next game i saved again. When I try to play my next game, the game freezes during the cpu recruiting/simulation that occurs when you simulate to the next game. I've tried simulating to different days and it always freezes at the same point. Is my legacy out of luck?

fflix · 02-28-2005, 03:55 PM

here is a potential fix that i found in case anyone else is having the same problem i am experiencing. i've read that it doesn't work for some people, but i won't get to try it out until tonight.
this is pretty disappointing because this was my favorite basketball game this year and i am pretty sure the next iteration won't be any better because college hoops 2k4 was basically bug free for me, while 2k5 has been a house of horrors.
do you ever get back the scholarships offered to recruits who eventually decide on other schools? if not !@#$. Do people only offer when they are the recruit's first choice?
If my legacy is !@$*-ed I'll probably retry with one more legacy, now that I am more aware of bugs and ways to get around them. If that goes poorly, guess there is always WoW and ncaa football.

"I play on XBox here is a possible fix to the "CPU Recruiting..." freeze.

It would freeze every time on Nov 23 of year 2. I went to the coaching profiles and turned my recruiting from assist to manual then went to the daily view and simmed every game from the game before Nov 23 to my next game on Nov 26 individually. It got through with no problems (just took a long time). It didn't work when going to the daily view and simming to my next game (i.e. over multiple games or multiple days using daily view)."

JasonC23 · 03-11-2005, 12:28 PM

Bump...does anyone know of a fairly thorough source for recruiting information? I'm talking the basics, like using up points and deadline dates for certain activities, but also tips, such as when to offer scholarships, if you get them back if the recruit picks a different school, what are the most important things to look for in recruits, etc. I'm having fun with my Legacy (yes, I'm a little slow, had this game since Christmas but never got a chance to play until recently), but I feel like I don't really know what I'm doing when it comes to recruiting.

Thanks for any help anyone can provide!

Ryno · 03-11-2005, 02:34 PM

Operation Sports forum might have some info
http://forums.operationsports.com/vB...splay.php?f=47

I started a sim-only dynasty earlier this week and have been doing a lot of recruiting the last few days. I'm not the best in the world, but I do OK.

I'm just starting my 9th season, and can give you some tips as I go.

Tip #1 is that recruiting starts with scheduling. If you're going to have more than a couple of scholarships open up, avoid scheduling games until late November if at all possible.

More to follow

JasonC23 · 03-11-2005, 02:58 PM

Thanks, Ryno! I look forward to your continuing tips. I'm also going to check the OS forum.

Oh, and congrats on the Hall of Fame. Sorry you had to wait.

Ryno · 03-11-2005, 03:26 PM

Some of this may be obvious, but I don't know what you're looking for, so I'll give you whatever I can. I've never coached above a Mid-Major, so this may not apply to larger schools.

Evaluate your needs. When I'm just starting out at a school, I usually go after the best players available regardless of position. When I'm more established I try to maintain at least one underclassman at each postition. Recruiting points are valuable at small schools, so I try not to waste any on players that don't need.

Figure out which asset is most important to you. I like defense myself, but there isn't an explicit rating for that. I'm reasonably certain that Hustle has a major part, but I'm not really sure what else affects it. When I started, I decided that I would accept no less than a B- in Hustle from any player regardless of other ratings. Some like shooting, some like rebounding, just pick your own theme and stick with it. You could also go for specialists (good rebounding bigs, good shooting SG, and quick/smart PG) that may be lacking in other areas.

I look at Mun and Loc recruits first. It obviously helps to be in a good location. Houston was pretty good to me at Texas Southern and San Diego is great at USD.

At Mid-Major schools, I look at 5* and 4* on the first day. At Small schools I ignore 5* (even if you he values being local, you're very unlikely to get him early on) and go for 4* and some 3* that fit my scheme. The green interest bar is usually pretty useful. If it's not at least 1/3 full, I usually don't bother with him at first. If there aren't enough reasonable options locally, I expand to Regional. When I'm at a small school, I ignore National and World until later in the season if at all.

On the first day, I Phone and Request game tape from all of the recruits that look promising. This is where good assistants come in handy. When I choose my assistants, one has the best Scout available the other has the best Recruit available. For my own coaching abilities, I put more points on recruiting than any other, followed by coaching then scouting.

Day 2 - ? to follow

Ryno · 03-11-2005, 03:36 PM

Another thing on the first day is that I filter by Distance then sort by Rating. Then just go down the list choosing 8-10 players to spend points on. You'll probably have to choose less at a smaller school, because you want to leave some points available to schedule visits and scouting trips later in the week.

Ryno · 03-11-2005, 04:05 PM

On day 2 I go through my contacted list and see who's interested. I usually filter by Interest and look at the Medium interest first. If they have medium or better interest and I'm in their top 5, they get first priority of visits. If their green bar is half full or better, but I'm not in their top 5, I'll usually just scout them instead of visit. I try to visit at least one player in each of my need positions. You're limited to 5 visits/scouts in the first week. If you don't have enough reasonable options to visit, you might want to do some more Phone/Request tapes and check them out the next day.

After I have my visits set up, I spend as many emails as possible - first on those that I'm visiting then spread them around on some of the other players. I'm not sure what effect, if any, emails have on players that you spend other points on, but I don't like taking chances.

Ryno · 03-11-2005, 04:44 PM

Week 2 - Monday
Look through the visited recruits and see which ones have Primary concerns that match your strengths. These are targets for follow up visits and scholarships on day 2. If I'm a small school and they're looking for a big one, I usually don't spend more than a phone call on them (at least in the first few weeks). Schedule as many visits on the first day as possible. If you have recruits that aren't compatible, you can look back at the list of recruits you didn't visit the first week. If there still aren't enough reasonable targets, go back and Phone/Request Tape some of the recruits you may have missed during the first week.

Week 2 - Tuesday - Scholarship Day
This is the first day that you can offer scholarships. I give them out as soon as I can. If their interests are compatible to my strengths and scouting has revealed good things, I give the 'ship out immediately. If I need more scouting before I give it out, I wait until after their visit. I rarely go past the second week without having all of my scholarships offered. The worst that can happen is that someone higher on their list offers as well, in which case you may or may not revoke it and give it to someone else.

I try to balance my offers according to my needs. If I need a PG and a SG, I'm going to give one to the best PG choice and one to the best SG choice, not both to the two best PGs. This is just a personal preference of mine. Players seem to play just fine out of position, so this is an optional rule.

You get up to six visits in week 2.

Ryno · 03-11-2005, 05:00 PM

I'm going to stop here and will probably finish tomorrow.

To answer some of your specific questions:

I'm not sure what to say on spending points. You want to spend as many points as possible on each recruit, so the lower on the food chain you go, the more selective you have to be. It would be neat to have some sort of budget table available, but I've never took the time to make one.

If another team signs a player you had offered a scholarship to, that scholarship becomes available to use on another player immediately.

The deadlines are as follows:

In-season recruiting goes from the first day until the end of week 18
The early signing period is week 6
The dead period is between weeks 19 and 24
The late signing period is between weeks 25 and 29

fflix · 03-11-2005, 05:18 PM

has anyone ever had the bug occur where you offered a scholarship, the player signed elsewhere, but you don't get the scholoraship back? is that scholarship lost until next season, or will i somehow get it back later, maybe during the late signing period?

Ryno · 03-15-2005, 12:08 PM

I was going to do a detailed logging of week 3 until the end, but there are just too many variables to keep track of.

Further hints and dates:

Potential is very important. Personally, I revoke scholarship offers to any recruit less than Good (unless I'm at a small school).

If your school matches the recruit's criteria, don't be afraid to stick with him when a larger school offers a scholarship. Of course the fewer scholarships I have the more likely I am to move on.

Other schools start offering scholarships on Wed. or Thurs. of week 2.

If a player decides to leave early for the draft, you won't be notified until the late period begins.

Like I said before, location is very important. At the end of my ninth season, I took the St John's job. The next year, I pulled in four All-Americans and none of them were outside of my region.

Hopefully this has answered at least some of your questions.

JasonC23 · 03-15-2005, 01:01 PM

Ryno, this is all great information. Thanks so much for taking the time to type it all out! Great stuff.

Ryno · 03-16-2005, 10:40 AM

An interesting bug appeared last night. Three of the four All-Americans from my first recruiting class at St. John's left early. I wasn't happy, but that's reasonably realistic. The problem was that I didn't get any extra scholarships to replace them.

I had even recruited extra players knowing that one or more of them would go.

I really hope that there's a CH2K6 and they get rid of all of the bugs, but until then it's back to FBCB for me.

MizzouRah · 03-16-2005, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryno

An interesting bug appeared last night. Three of the four All-Americans from my first recruiting class at St. John's left early. I wasn't happy, but that's reasonably realistic. The problem was that I didn't get any extra scholarships to replace them.

I had even recruited extra players knowing that one or more of them would go.

I really hope that there's a CH2K6 and they get rid of all of the bugs, but until then it's back to FBCB for me.

That seems to be the status quo from Sega reguarding their sports games as of late. It's too bad, because the gameplay has been quite fun with their games this year.

Todd

JasonC23 · 03-23-2005, 02:51 PM

I'm bumping this thread because I'm hoping someone can comment on a couple of questions I've come up with while playing. I checked over at Operation Sports and didn't see anything on these specific topics...

Background: I'm in the regular season (my first season), so it's just recruiting, not signing time. I've offered my 2 available scholarships to a SF and a PG. Both have me second on their list of top 5 schools (one has KU first; the other, ND). My questions are...

1. Do I have any shot to sign either of them if I'm not the #1 team on their lists by the time I reach the off-season signing period? I plan on continuing to call/e-mail them for the rest of the season, but if I never move up to #1 (and it's going to be tough), do I have a chance?

2. The PG is a Juco SO...if he signs with me, can I redshirt him? I currently have 2 PGs (a SO and a JR), and I see no reason to sign a Juco SO if he's just going to come in as a JR and graduate when my current SO PG does.

Thanks for any help anyone can provide! This game really is great, despite the bugs.

dacman · 03-23-2005, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonC23

1. Do I have any shot to sign either of them if I'm not the #1 team on their lists by the time I reach the off-season signing period? I plan on continuing to call/e-mail them for the rest of the season, but if I never move up to #1 (and it's going to be tough), do I have a chance?

Absolutely -- I have about a 50-60% success rate with guys like that -- just make sure to develop secondary targets in case either doesn't sign. I'd be very surprised if you didn't get at least 1 of them. Also, hammer them as much as possible (usually a home visit and phone call) that first signing week.

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Originally Posted by JasonC23

2. The PG is a Juco SO...if he signs with me, can I redshirt him? I currently have 2 PGs (a SO and a JR), and I see no reason to sign a Juco SO if he's just going to come in as a JR and graduate when my current SO PG does.

You can usually redshirt JUCO's no problem -- I think sometimes JUCO Frosh come in with the redshirt expended, but I can't recall if that's in this game or some other.

02-07-2005, 05:23 PM	#351
General Mike Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The State of Rutgers	I finally picked up College Hoops 2k5 and NHL 2k5 the other day. Good stuff. __________________ Boise Stampede Continental Football League Jacksonville Jaguars GM North American Football League Nebraska Coach FOFC-BBCF Rutgers & Washington coach Bowl Bound-BBCF

02-07-2005, 09:46 PM	#355
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	Does anyone know if the game calculates the RPI correctly? In my season, Tennessee Tech is #3 in the RPI at 19-3 with many Majors with 3 or 4 losses. Penn is #15 with a 15-6 record. This is the 2004-5 season. __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson

02-09-2005, 04:01 PM	#356
MrIllini High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where you live	FYI- for those getting the 'CPU recruiting' freeze when simulating I got the same freeze, and used the suggestions from OS about saving new/deleting user profiles and settings from a new legacy then reloading old legacy to get the freeze to go away I'm two seasons past that freeze now with no issues __________________ if i said you had a beautiful body, would you hold it against me?

02-10-2005, 07:00 AM	#358
illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	Despite the bugs, I'm still into this game. I was able to get a good recruiting class my first season and it's been all uphill from there for NCST. I got a kid from Germany who reminds me of Luther Head. His senior year he was the ACC Player of the year, and my first all-american. It's really fun to be able to recruit the high school all americans, and then see them play at the end of the year in the high school game. Now I'm just waiting for Illinois to give me an offer, crosses fingers __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"

02-16-2005, 01:07 AM	#360
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	I can do highlight reels now, and I can do them pretty quickly, too. The only problem is that the files are so big. Hosting isn't an issue, and neither is bandwidth for me, but I can't imagine people spending the time to download 1-2 meg AVI files or waiting for 2 meg GIF files to download. Perhaps I should stick with screenshots for now. I'm going to continue to fiddle with compression settings (possibly lowering color depth and resolution some more), but I don't know how far I can realistically take this. At least I'll have the highlight reels on my own computer for viewing. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

02-07-2005, 06:09 PM	#352
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I just finished my 2nd season with Campbell... 3-24 my first season, I improved to 8-17, all wins in conference play. I'll have my best season yet in season 3, BUT, I have 6 scholarships players graduating this year and a tight crap-school budget to replace them with, so next year's team will probably go winless and I'll get fired.

02-10-2005, 06:54 AM	#357
bob College Starter Join Date: Oct 2004	Can you be a little more specific about the exact steps to fix the recruiting freeze (or provide a link)? Thanks....

02-16-2005, 08:50 AM	#361
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I would think that for most of us a 2 meg AVI is nothing. High speed people!! Oh, and in my 3rd season Campbell is 7-4 so far and leading the Atlantic Sun. My best player and a bunch of reserves are graduating so I am really hoping I can win my conference tourney this year.

02-16-2005, 04:31 PM	#363
Ryno H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: May 2004 Location: Peoria, IL	We (Evansville) were undefeated going into the NCAA Tournament in my fourth season. I managed to get a 1 seed and spanked my first round opponent (Oral Roberts) 82-29. The second round game was against 9 seed Stanford. Despite having a 93 overall rating, they were only 20-10 before they played me. I was down 54-56 with 9:34 to go in the game, but I let it slip away from me, and ended up losing 73-88. Needless to say, I was very disappointed. I'm five games into my fifth season with four wins (including #3 Syracuse) and a tough loss at Kentucky. Last edited by Ryno : 09-03-2005 at 11:36 PM. Reason: links removed

02-16-2005, 07:38 PM	#364
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	As a test, below are some quick highlights from the first half of my conference showdown with North Texas. My Privateers were getting blown out 39-23 at the half, and things didn't really improve later. UNO gets off to a good start with a three-pointer from starting PG Todd Bostic UNO's best player, sophomore SG Bo McCalebb, shows us why he's got a shot at All-Conference as he darts through the Mean Green defense and lays in a beautiful circus shot The game starts to fall apart as the North Texas forward slams one home to put the Mean Green on a 10-2 run The run extends to 24-5 with this three pointer McCalebb tries to get UNO back into the game all by himself with another crazy lay-in Little-used UNO reserve Jacob Manning scores the most amusing play of the half with a jam that flattens both an opponent and a teammate (talk about being in the wrong place at the wrong time) I intend to be more selective with the highlights (6 per half is probably a tad much), but I just wanted to show off a little of what I've grabbed so far. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

02-16-2005, 07:57 PM	#366
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	Ehm, Google "defilerpak" and install that, maybe. I'm using the DivX 5.2.1 codec to compress, I think. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

02-16-2005, 08:12 PM	#367
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Ever since I installed Mediaplayer 10, I can't play a whole lot. Todd

02-16-2005, 08:17 PM	#368
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	I don't know how the Defiler Pak coincides with Media Player 10, but it hasn't failed me yet. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

02-16-2005, 08:35 PM	#370
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Awesome!

02-16-2005, 08:39 PM	#371
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	I just had some strange tournament selections. I was playing as Penn and finished 13-1 in the Ivy league and got a #8 seed. Brown also made the tourney from the Ivy. However they finished 5th in the league at 5-9 and 12-14 overall, with a RPI of 200. I think they gave me an At-large bid and then picked Brown automatically but the alpha bug picked. Anyone else see this? Todd __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson

02-17-2005, 05:54 PM	#372
illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	I was thinking about the conference champions bug. This is just a theory but I've noticed that any of the teams that win the conference title every year because of the alphabetical bug never show up on the job lists. Has anyone noticed this too? What I'm thinking is that the since the game treats these the regular season conference champions maybe the coaches are immune to being fired? If anyone can prove this wrong I'd be thrilled because then it would mean I would have a chance to coach Illinois. If it is just one of the many bugs in this game... __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"

02-21-2005, 06:10 PM	#373
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I just had a back and forth game as Campbell against Florida Atlantic, they played a good man to man defense and my normal post game was just not working at all, my star PG had to take the game over himself. He finished with 38 points and 8 assists in a 78-72 win, the highlight being a 3 pointer as time expired in regulation to tie the game at 69 all and send it into overtime. I won easily in OT. I know there are bugs, but playing more casually I don't notice them as fast I guess.

02-21-2005, 10:03 PM	#374
Scoobz0202 Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dayton, Ohio	I'm a moron. I finally bought the Action Replay tool to use for the real rosters. I was all excited, opened the box, and was confused. I didn't see how the thing in the box was compatible with a PC/Xbox. It was the Gamecube, or some other Game something, Action Replay. Went to the store, and they don't have the Xbox one. In other words, I took 20 bucks and threw it in the trash. Sweet.

02-22-2005, 10:58 AM	#377
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	So going into this season I knew I better win since I had my two best players graduating. And I did win, went 17-9, though i lost in an upset in the first round of the Atlantic Sun tourney. my contract was extended for four years and I got my first job offers, though all of them for teams in the few conferences that are even worse than the A-Sun, so I turned them down. Now, my problems begin. Last season I had 6 seniors graduating(though only 3 of any consequence). I recruited 3 decent 3 star guys, one of them looks like he could be an offensive powerhouse, definitely a star at this level. I didn't land anyone else. So I still have 3 spots open going into this year. I look this season, and I have FIVE more scholarship players graduating. 3 starters. So now, on Campbell's crappy ass budget, I have 8 spots to try and fill. I know I'm going to redshirt all 3 of my freshmen this year since none of them would see much playing time and all desparately need to improve, and hope that I can go .500 again w/o my two stars from last season. But i have no idea how to try to recruit to salvage this situation. My first instinct is to just go after 3 or 4 solid 3 star players again and just accept that I'm going to leave a lot of holes open again for next year. I just can't see myself stooping down to the 2 star guys who are rated with a D in every category except for one where that's a C or something horrid like that. WHEE

02-22-2005, 05:43 PM	#380
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	I intend to play at least one game tonight. Highlights will follow, of course. My team's record is absolutely pitiful, so don't be surprised if my Privateers lose. We shall see in a few hours. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

02-22-2005, 11:51 PM	#382
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	Well, my net connection is pretty wonky tonight, so I'll upload the videos tomorrow night. I beat the mighty Denver Pioneers! Woohoo! __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

02-28-2005, 01:38 PM	#384
fflix Mascot Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CA	has anyone had this happen to them? i read somewhere that if you don't save on a gameday, your recruiting list won't get lost. so i played a game, saved it on the day after, and turned off the xbox. after coming back to the game and loading the legacy, the recruiting list was intact and i did my recruiting for the week. Before simulating to the next game i saved again. When I try to play my next game, the game freezes during the cpu recruiting/simulation that occurs when you simulate to the next game. I've tried simulating to different days and it always freezes at the same point. Is my legacy out of luck?

02-28-2005, 03:55 PM	#385
fflix Mascot Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CA	here is a potential fix that i found in case anyone else is having the same problem i am experiencing. i've read that it doesn't work for some people, but i won't get to try it out until tonight. this is pretty disappointing because this was my favorite basketball game this year and i am pretty sure the next iteration won't be any better because college hoops 2k4 was basically bug free for me, while 2k5 has been a house of horrors. do you ever get back the scholarships offered to recruits who eventually decide on other schools? if not !@#$. Do people only offer when they are the recruit's first choice? If my legacy is !@$*-ed I'll probably retry with one more legacy, now that I am more aware of bugs and ways to get around them. If that goes poorly, guess there is always WoW and ncaa football. "I play on XBox here is a possible fix to the "CPU Recruiting..." freeze. It would freeze every time on Nov 23 of year 2. I went to the coaching profiles and turned my recruiting from assist to manual then went to the daily view and simmed every game from the game before Nov 23 to my next game on Nov 26 individually. It got through with no problems (just took a long time). It didn't work when going to the daily view and simming to my next game (i.e. over multiple games or multiple days using daily view)."

03-11-2005, 12:28 PM	#386
JasonC23 High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Huntley, IL, USA	Bump...does anyone know of a fairly thorough source for recruiting information? I'm talking the basics, like using up points and deadline dates for certain activities, but also tips, such as when to offer scholarships, if you get them back if the recruit picks a different school, what are the most important things to look for in recruits, etc. I'm having fun with my Legacy (yes, I'm a little slow, had this game since Christmas but never got a chance to play until recently), but I feel like I don't really know what I'm doing when it comes to recruiting. Thanks for any help anyone can provide! __________________ "I'm A god. I'm not THE God...I don't think." Bill Murray, Groundhog Day

03-11-2005, 02:34 PM	#387
Ryno H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: May 2004 Location: Peoria, IL	Operation Sports forum might have some info http://forums.operationsports.com/vB...splay.php?f=47 I started a sim-only dynasty earlier this week and have been doing a lot of recruiting the last few days. I'm not the best in the world, but I do OK. I'm just starting my 9th season, and can give you some tips as I go. Tip #1 is that recruiting starts with scheduling. If you're going to have more than a couple of scholarships open up, avoid scheduling games until late November if at all possible. More to follow

03-11-2005, 02:58 PM	#388
JasonC23 High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Huntley, IL, USA	Thanks, Ryno! I look forward to your continuing tips. I'm also going to check the OS forum. Oh, and congrats on the Hall of Fame. Sorry you had to wait. __________________ "I'm A god. I'm not THE God...I don't think." Bill Murray, Groundhog Day

03-11-2005, 03:26 PM	#389
Ryno H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: May 2004 Location: Peoria, IL	Some of this may be obvious, but I don't know what you're looking for, so I'll give you whatever I can. I've never coached above a Mid-Major, so this may not apply to larger schools. Evaluate your needs. When I'm just starting out at a school, I usually go after the best players available regardless of position. When I'm more established I try to maintain at least one underclassman at each postition. Recruiting points are valuable at small schools, so I try not to waste any on players that don't need. Figure out which asset is most important to you. I like defense myself, but there isn't an explicit rating for that. I'm reasonably certain that Hustle has a major part, but I'm not really sure what else affects it. When I started, I decided that I would accept no less than a B- in Hustle from any player regardless of other ratings. Some like shooting, some like rebounding, just pick your own theme and stick with it. You could also go for specialists (good rebounding bigs, good shooting SG, and quick/smart PG) that may be lacking in other areas. I look at Mun and Loc recruits first. It obviously helps to be in a good location. Houston was pretty good to me at Texas Southern and San Diego is great at USD. At Mid-Major schools, I look at 5* and 4* on the first day. At Small schools I ignore 5* (even if you he values being local, you're very unlikely to get him early on) and go for 4* and some 3* that fit my scheme. The green interest bar is usually pretty useful. If it's not at least 1/3 full, I usually don't bother with him at first. If there aren't enough reasonable options locally, I expand to Regional. When I'm at a small school, I ignore National and World until later in the season if at all. On the first day, I Phone and Request game tape from all of the recruits that look promising. This is where good assistants come in handy. When I choose my assistants, one has the best Scout available the other has the best Recruit available. For my own coaching abilities, I put more points on recruiting than any other, followed by coaching then scouting. Day 2 - ? to follow

03-11-2005, 03:36 PM	#390
Ryno H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: May 2004 Location: Peoria, IL	Another thing on the first day is that I filter by Distance then sort by Rating. Then just go down the list choosing 8-10 players to spend points on. You'll probably have to choose less at a smaller school, because you want to leave some points available to schedule visits and scouting trips later in the week. Last edited by Ryno : 03-11-2005 at 03:39 PM.

03-11-2005, 04:05 PM	#391
Ryno H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: May 2004 Location: Peoria, IL	On day 2 I go through my contacted list and see who's interested. I usually filter by Interest and look at the Medium interest first. If they have medium or better interest and I'm in their top 5, they get first priority of visits. If their green bar is half full or better, but I'm not in their top 5, I'll usually just scout them instead of visit. I try to visit at least one player in each of my need positions. You're limited to 5 visits/scouts in the first week. If you don't have enough reasonable options to visit, you might want to do some more Phone/Request tapes and check them out the next day. After I have my visits set up, I spend as many emails as possible - first on those that I'm visiting then spread them around on some of the other players. I'm not sure what effect, if any, emails have on players that you spend other points on, but I don't like taking chances.

03-11-2005, 04:44 PM	#392
Ryno H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: May 2004 Location: Peoria, IL	Week 2 - Monday Look through the visited recruits and see which ones have Primary concerns that match your strengths. These are targets for follow up visits and scholarships on day 2. If I'm a small school and they're looking for a big one, I usually don't spend more than a phone call on them (at least in the first few weeks). Schedule as many visits on the first day as possible. If you have recruits that aren't compatible, you can look back at the list of recruits you didn't visit the first week. If there still aren't enough reasonable targets, go back and Phone/Request Tape some of the recruits you may have missed during the first week. Week 2 - Tuesday - Scholarship Day This is the first day that you can offer scholarships. I give them out as soon as I can. If their interests are compatible to my strengths and scouting has revealed good things, I give the 'ship out immediately. If I need more scouting before I give it out, I wait until after their visit. I rarely go past the second week without having all of my scholarships offered. The worst that can happen is that someone higher on their list offers as well, in which case you may or may not revoke it and give it to someone else. I try to balance my offers according to my needs. If I need a PG and a SG, I'm going to give one to the best PG choice and one to the best SG choice, not both to the two best PGs. This is just a personal preference of mine. Players seem to play just fine out of position, so this is an optional rule. You get up to six visits in week 2.

03-11-2005, 05:00 PM	#393
Ryno H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: May 2004 Location: Peoria, IL	I'm going to stop here and will probably finish tomorrow. To answer some of your specific questions: I'm not sure what to say on spending points. You want to spend as many points as possible on each recruit, so the lower on the food chain you go, the more selective you have to be. It would be neat to have some sort of budget table available, but I've never took the time to make one. If another team signs a player you had offered a scholarship to, that scholarship becomes available to use on another player immediately. The deadlines are as follows: In-season recruiting goes from the first day until the end of week 18 The early signing period is week 6 The dead period is between weeks 19 and 24 The late signing period is between weeks 25 and 29

03-11-2005, 05:18 PM	#394
fflix Mascot Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CA	has anyone ever had the bug occur where you offered a scholarship, the player signed elsewhere, but you don't get the scholoraship back? is that scholarship lost until next season, or will i somehow get it back later, maybe during the late signing period?

03-15-2005, 12:08 PM	#395
Ryno H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: May 2004 Location: Peoria, IL	I was going to do a detailed logging of week 3 until the end, but there are just too many variables to keep track of. Further hints and dates: Potential is very important. Personally, I revoke scholarship offers to any recruit less than Good (unless I'm at a small school). If your school matches the recruit's criteria, don't be afraid to stick with him when a larger school offers a scholarship. Of course the fewer scholarships I have the more likely I am to move on. Other schools start offering scholarships on Wed. or Thurs. of week 2. If a player decides to leave early for the draft, you won't be notified until the late period begins. Like I said before, location is very important. At the end of my ninth season, I took the St John's job. The next year, I pulled in four All-Americans and none of them were outside of my region. Hopefully this has answered at least some of your questions.

03-15-2005, 01:01 PM	#396
JasonC23 High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Huntley, IL, USA	Ryno, this is all great information. Thanks so much for taking the time to type it all out! Great stuff. __________________ "I'm A god. I'm not THE God...I don't think." Bill Murray, Groundhog Day

03-16-2005, 10:40 AM	#397
Ryno H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: May 2004 Location: Peoria, IL	An interesting bug appeared last night. Three of the four All-Americans from my first recruiting class at St. John's left early. I wasn't happy, but that's reasonably realistic. The problem was that I didn't get any extra scholarships to replace them. I had even recruited extra players knowing that one or more of them would go. I really hope that there's a CH2K6 and they get rid of all of the bugs, but until then it's back to FBCB for me.