NCAA Infractions Committee Report on USC - Ghosts of infractions past haunt SC

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by dawgfan

Well, that all depends. The NCAA didn't have their ducks in a row in the Neuheisel case and it forced them (as well as the UW) to have to settle a case they probably should have won.

I'm hoping for a similar situation in this case too! :]

In all seriousness, I want the NCAA in a court case. The more power they are given the better. Jerry Buss can only pay so much

[Poli]

USC defensive end Malik Jackson said Monday he will transfer to Tennessee, becoming the second Trojan to take advantage of NCAA-instituted bylaws that allow USC juniors and seniors to transfer without sitting out a year.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Poli

USC defensive end Malik Jackson said Monday he will transfer to Tennessee, becoming the second Trojan to take advantage of NCAA-instituted bylaws that allow USC juniors and seniors to transfer without sitting out a year.

Not terribly surprised. His brother switched to USC in February from UCLA suspiciously soon before it was determined he did not have the grades to even be extended an LOI from the Bruins (which is a shame, he would have competed for a spot on the line). Last I checked, I don't believe he has been able to enroll at USC yet either, and I believe he is likely headed back to a JC.

I would think the possibility of playing with his brother was one of the last things holding Malik to USC.

Edit: I looked it up and it's already official--Marquis Jackson, upon not getting into USC (and presumeably still not able to get into UCLA), has moved on to Texas Southern.

[Poli]

I'll take whatever attrition I can get out of USC. I'd love for them all to go to UCLA.

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Not terribly surprised. His brother switched to USC in February from UCLA suspiciously soon before it was determined he did not have the grades to even be extended an LOI from the Bruins (which is a shame, he would have competed for a spot on the line). Last I checked, I don't believe he has been able to enroll at USC yet either, and I believe he is likely headed back to a JC.

I would think the possibility of playing with his brother was one of the last things holding Malik to USC.

Edit: I looked it up and it's already official--Marquis Jackson, upon not getting into USC (and presumeably still not able to get into UCLA), has moved on to Texas Southern.

Yeah, he enroilled in Texas Southern a few weeks ago. He couldn't get his grades together enough to get into USC or UCLA. Texas Southern's standards are considerably lower. With Nick Perry passing him up on the depth chart and his brother not coming to USC, this was one of the players I was worried about leaving.

[MrBug708]

Bruce Feldman twitter:

Weeks ago, Vols faxed over a list of every JR & SR on USCs roster to the Trojans' compliance office to alert them of their recruiting plan.

Tyron Smith is rumored to be looking at both Miami and Tennessee. I doubt USC lets him leave but if he doesnt and Henderson doesnt make it to campus, USC could have 8 scholarship OL

[Poli]

Love. This.

[Poli]

Eags, this has nothing to do with you or your team. It's really about, well, one person.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Bruce Feldman twitter:

Weeks ago, Vols faxed over a list of every JR & SR on USCs roster to the Trojans' compliance office to alert them of their recruiting plan.

If that's indeed true & accurate, it's one of the funniest things I've read in quite a while.

[Ksyrup]

That was also in his column today, in a bigger section about Jackson leaving and a 2011 OLB commitment to USC.

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Bruce Feldman twitter:

Weeks ago, Vols faxed over a list of every JR & SR on USCs roster to the Trojans' compliance office to alert them of their recruiting plan.

Tyron Smith is rumored to be looking at both Miami and Tennessee. I doubt USC lets him leave but if he doesnt and Henderson doesnt make it to campus, USC could have 8 scholarship OL

USC can't stop him if he wants to leave, and he is another one I'm worried about. He got suspended for academic reasons last year and it didn't sit well with him.

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by Poli

Eags, this has nothing to do with you or your team. It's really about, well, one person.

Yep. The more this hurts Lane Kiffin, the more it makes me happy. Not that I have any personal investment in him like you did - I just think he's an ass.

[MrBug708]

Henderson was let out of his LOI

[Poli]

That's a shame.

[MrBug708]

"1. Says he sees more players leaving including Mustain.
2. He will help recruit players from USC to UT but will not be pushy about it.
3. Did not know Lane at all. Lane just told him to do what he wanted to.
4. Ed O was really pissed about it and and Monte told him it was a bad move
5. He took his visit without the staff knowing and it is probably the case with others
6. UT was only school that called and wanted him

Malik Jackson interview

http://player.streamtheworld.com/_pl...adel/?sid=2947

[Eaglesfan27]

I will be absolutely shocked if Mustain leaves. He has been one of the most emphatic vocal players in saying that he was staying at USC. He believes he can go the Matt Cassel route and he knows he is entrenched as the #2 guy in a system that he now knows very well.

It sucks to lose Seantrel (assuming he doesn't still pick USC by some miracle), as I believe he is going to be a special talent.

[MrBug708]

Feldman tweeted - UF got apology letter fm USC AD Mike Garrett today saying reports of Gators illegally contacting Dillon Baxter were untrue

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Feldman tweeted - UF got apology letter fm USC AD Mike Garrett today saying reports of Gators illegally contacting Dillon Baxter were untrue

What? Something coming out of USC that wasn't true? I'm shocked I tell you, shocked.

Garrett, however, is likely to appeal the finding, hoping to have the penalty of looking like a clueless horse's ass reversed.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

What? Something coming out of USC that wasn't true? I'm shocked I tell you, shocked.

The apology is only so they can buy time to find the phone so the allegations can be proven true.

Maybe OJ will find it along with the real killer.

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Feldman tweeted - UF got apology letter fm USC AD Mike Garrett today saying reports of Gators illegally contacting Dillon Baxter were untrue

Letters went out to all of the schools falsely accused.

[MrBug708]

Dillion Baxter is slime. Just because your school got busted for cheating, don't try and bring down others
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USC athletic director Mike Garrett has apologized to Florida athletic director Jeremy Foley and Washington AD Scott Woodward for inaccurately alleging that a member from the schools illegally contacted Trojans freshman running back Dillon Baxter, according to a letter Garrett sent to the schools.

In the letter -- which was dated July 1 and seen by ESPN -- Garrett wrote that he spoke with Baxter and "he has now confirmed that he did not receive a call from your institution. Therefore, USC has no intention of pursuing this matter further. I apologize for any inconvenience or embarrassment this matter has caused to you and your institution."

In a letter dated June 11 -- also seen by ESPN -- USC director of compliance Matt Billings informed a Pac-10 enforcement official that Florida, Washington, Oregon, Fresno State and Alabama had allegedly contacted Baxter after the NCAA hit the Trojans with a number of penalties, including a two-year postseason ban, for improper benefits to Heisman Trophy winner Reggie Bush dating to the Trojans' 2004 national championship.

That letter from Billings to Ron Barker, the Pac-10's associate commissioner for governance and enforcement, stated in part: "I just met with [Baxter] and he told me that he received phone calls from five institutions [June 10th.] All of the institutions asked if he was interested in transferring from USC due to the NCAA decision. Would you please speak with these schools to remind them they cannot speak to this student athlete?"

Baxter had one of the best springs of any incoming freshman in the country, drawing comparisons from USC coach Lane Kiffin to Bush, a fellow native of San Diego. Baxter's highlight-film runs drew thousands of hits on youtube.com.

NCAA rules state that schools can contact juniors or seniors on a team facing a two-year postseason ban, but not other players.

As a senior at Mission Bay High School, Baxter ran for a San Diego-record 2,984 yards on 261 carries (11.4 avg.) with 50 TDs while accounting for a state-record 79 touchdowns on offense. He was named EA Sports Mr. Football USA and Max Preps national player of the year.

[k0ruptr]

I'd be surprised if Mustain leaves as well, and I agree with what was said about the Cassel route. I think he has a great chance to do just that and get drafted, I loved what little we saw of him at Arkansas and think he could be a decent qb some day.

Also would be surprising if he transfers because its not too often a player transfers twice in his college career and plays for 3 different University's.

[MrBug708]

Most also dont find themselves as an upperclassman with a chance to transfer again without sitting out. It's a special situation

[Logan]

How long until Baxter comes out and says he was put up to it by someone at USC (possibly someone whos already been let go)?

[stevew]

Can the schools affected by this sue the kid for slander? Cause that would be awesome.

[k0ruptr]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Most also dont find themselves as an upperclassman with a chance to transfer again without sitting out. It's a special situation

ahh I keep forgetting this good point. hmm . If he does decide to bail, hopefully he chooses somewhere he can actually start this time

[Poli]

Originally Posted by k0ruptr

I'd be surprised if Mustain leaves as well, and I agree with what was said about the Cassel route. I think he has a great chance to do just that and get drafted, I loved what little we saw of him at Arkansas and think he could be a decent qb some day.

Also would be surprising if he transfers because its not too often a player transfers twice in his college career and plays for 3 different University's.

I can think of a few...but you're right, it's not that often.

[Poli]

Originally Posted by stevew

Can the schools affected by this sue the kid for slander? Cause that would be awesome.

Double like.

[Logan]

I would think they would need to go after USC. The kid made the false accusation to them, the school is the one who reported it in the media.

[Eaglesfan27]

Mustain re-iterated today that he "is 100% staying at USC."

[MrBug708]

Was Baxter the one who spoke for Mustain?

[stevew]

Fairly easy to stay at USC when nobody else wants you.

[dawgfan]

Mustain is staying, but CB Byron Moore is leaving.

[MrBug708]

It looks like Baxter contacted Florida and said he was decommiting. I bet once he realized that he couldn't actually decommit and head to Florida, that's when he told USC, to try and save face for not wanting to be at USC.

[dawgfan]

This is the thread where we document players bolting from USC, right? Sounds like D.J. Shoemate is the latest casualty...

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by k0ruptr

If he does decide to bail, hopefully he chooses somewhere he can actually start this time

I figured his high school eligibility was used up already.

*I say that as someone who thought Mustain was actually the best prospect of all the SEC QB's who came in together as freshman. But time has certainly proven me wrong on that one.

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by dawgfan

This is the thread where we document players bolting from USC, right? Sounds like D.J. Shoemate is the latest casualty...

Yep. Off to UConn to get a chance at being a RB instead of a FB. Him and Malik are the only 2 who wouldn't have transferred if there were no sanctions. Tyron Smith said today there is no chance he is going anywhere as Ausmus and his staff are doing a great job of getting him into the best shape of his life.

[sooner333]

Originally Posted by Logan

I would think they would need to go after USC. The kid made the false accusation to them, the school is the one who reported it in the media.

Reporting has nothing to do with defamation. It gets confusing because the defamation torts require that the statement be "published." But publishing can be merely saying something you know (or should know) is untrue about someone. You become responsible for all future publications of that information, including that of USC to other schools, the Pac 10, and the media.

[MrBug708]

Henderson will be at the U

[dawgfan]

I don't think this is going to help USC's appeal much...

[MrBug708]

UCLA admission has denied fall admission for the three incoming freshman arrested and are free to attend any school this fall.

Does anyone still think Rick's move is slick?

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by dawgfan

I don't think this is going to help USC's appeal much...

That is old news being re-hashed. It was in the initial report as well.

[MrBug708]

The OC register ripped Carroll a new one

Carroll's book not a champion | carroll, win, usc - Home - The Orange County Register

He's promoting a book whose most redeeming quality is that some of the proceeds go to Carroll's urban improvement charity project, A Better LA. Beyond that, it's 228 pages of hypocrisy, philosophical sports clichés and ripoffs of the teachings of late and legendary UCLA basketball coach.

He's practically stealing with his optimal-performance, competition-driven philosophy in his"Win Forever Pyramid" (Page 79) based on practice and maximizing potential.

We've seen this somewhere before. Oh, yes, it's in Wooden's "Pyramid of Success" and the do-your-best principles popularized during his 27 UCLA seasons and 10 NCAA titles from 1963-75. (Wooden wouldn't have used "win," though.)

Carroll, who credits Wooden's for being both influential and inspirational, also writes on Page 109, "At USC I introduced 'Three Rules,' which became the foundational elements of our program: Rule 1. Always Protect the Team; Rule 2. No Whining, No Complaining, No Excuses; Rule 3. Be Early."

At least Carroll changed up the order of the three rules Wooden told his players, among them, NBA Hall of Famer Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, who recalled the Bruins basics as " Don't be late. Don't swear. Don't criticize your teammates."

Most of "Win Forever" is about how Carroll, who admits to being an undersized but well-intentioned failed football player, fell into coaching, got exposure to great thinkers in sports psychology and went through the "process of self-discovery" to "formulate" a "vision, philosophy, and belief system into a detailed plan for winning."

Most troubling, Carroll writes on pages 128-129 about being able to "glean a wealth of information by paying close attention to the actions, mannerisms, and traits of our players. By taking note of the clothes they wear, the hairstyles they choose, their personal interests, and the people they choose to hang out with, we get mountains of information ... to create a profile that would accurately direct our efforts to teach each player successfully."

[MacroGuru]

I guess this is the best place to post this...

Rumor Mill: With the infractions being handed out and the transfer rules...BYU and Uona Kaveinga are applying to see if Uona can play this season....they are waiting to hear back...if he is granted he delays his mission...if he isn't, he is going on a mission.

[Poli]

Don't let the door hit you, Mike. I'm glad your comments, your actions, and inaction brought you to this place.

[MrBug708]

USC is ran by the boosters. I doubt he does anything to change the culture. Even his first statement made me laugh

[BishopMVP]

USC sends their copy of Bush's Heisman back and promises to eliminate all traces of his (and OJ Mayo's) picture from campus.

[stevew]

OJ Mayo being dirty in college is probably the least shocking news ever.

[molson]

Can't taking back Daryl Gross in some capacity be a part of the penalty?

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by stevew

OJ Mayo being dirty in college is probably the least shocking news ever.

Yet, the NCAA cleared him as USC asked for info from them before they took him on.

Anyway, very happy to see MG go and Pat Haden is a very solid replacement.