LXXVII Spawn III: Game Over (See Post 4507)

[The Jackal]

vote oliegirl

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Heinz, you were also getting into it with Danny around the same time. Any thoughts on that, in retrospect?

Pass, without going back and re-reading, I briefly remember this in the Day 2 (I think Day 2) hoopla when I was still all over hoops and he all over me. Then Danny kinda got into it too. I don't remember much about this truth be told, but if you have some posts you'd like me to answer, just quote 'em or post the numbers and I'll have a look.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I actually liked your ideas on saldana and PackerFanatic. I figure the engineers are being useful, so I'm inclined to leave them alone for now. I'm also scared of Schmidty -- I'm pretty sure he used his duplicant power before liftoff, so he could have been converted.

Well I brought up Danny because you seemed to have concerns about various engineers communication that set off warning bells.. Others mentioned the same thing about claphamsa and jeheinz as well. So by clearing Danny should in effect clear all of them now if we understand Spawn Aware correctly...

Just seems like the best bang for the buck considering I'm assuming you'll die tonight without any further security that can protect us.

[Barkeep49]

heinz is seen working away on the Cargo Hold.

[KWhit]

Vote Oliegirl

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Well I brought up Danny because you seemed to have concerns about various engineers communication that set off warning bells.. Others mentioned the same thing about claphamsa and jeheinz as well. So by clearing Danny should in effect clear all of them now if we understand Spawn Aware correctly...

Just seems like the best bang for the buck considering I'm assuming you'll die tonight without any further security that can protect us.

That's kinda old news now -- I really just wasn't paying attention to who's doing what work, how much work needed to be done, etc. I'm cool with them now that it seems like they've all done their homework like good kiddies.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

That's kinda old news now -- I really just wasn't paying attention to who's doing what work, how much work needed to be done, etc. I'm cool with them now that it seems like they've all done their homework like good kiddies.

It doesn't matter to you that BK just said that they can do engineering work and do a kill at night though? I was in the same boat as you prior to BK's clarification of that.. now I'd like a bit more peace of mind that they're all ok.. Only person who seems to be able to do that is Danny

[saldana]

another disasterous night...no reason to change my vote from yesterday

vote olie

[saldana]

dola the fact that the spawn can still do their night activity and their survivor night activity is pretty huge...the engineers could have been actually doing their work all along, and still killing or seeding, and we were just taking it for granted they were good guys because their work was getting done.

[oliegirl]

Uh...I'm not a spawn. Really. I promise.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by saldana

dola the fact that the spawn can still do their night activity and their survivor night activity is pretty huge...the engineers could have been actually doing their work all along, and still killing or seeding, and we were just taking it for granted they were good guys because their work was getting done.

We were? I thought we were just not messing with them since, by doing their work, they're still helping us out, even if they're bad. I didn't know we thought it meant that they were good.

[jeheinz72]

I, even as an engineer, agree with Pass. I wasn't expecting someone to be ok with me just on the basis of that. I wasn't clearing the other engineers on that basis either. A lot of times faked work would've stuck out like such a sore thumb that they wouldn't have had a choice.

[bulletsponge]

just caught up. still alive and still a survivor. bad news about the deaths

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I had over 1000 posts in the WW Survivor game I remember.

doesnt count! it was multiple threads... its wierd looking back tho, you blade or poli lead a vast majoirty of the games... and your the only one who still plays!

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

doesnt count! it was multiple threads... its wierd looking back tho, you blade or poli lead a vast majoirty of the games... and your the only one who still plays!

I had 702 posts in one thread in that game. I have alot more posts to go this game to catch that!

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I'm trying to figure out who to look at also Pass.. the thing is we know there were at least 3 kills last night, so 3 wolves that don't include Clap if his work was done on the cargo hold..

I think what makes sense is we go back and double check what was needed before night and was done after night in regards to engineering work.. We assume Tyrith didn't do work.. and if all of that work is done, we know we have 3 spawn elsewhere

im not a spawn! do i get get pass points for this?

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I had 702 posts in one thread in that game. I have alot more posts to go this game to catch that!

huh, i only looked int he top 10 or so most poseted game threeads.... must have been impressive to get 700 posts in a thread that didnt top 2200

huzzah!

[jeheinz72]

I think someone was asking this, but yeah, Tyrith didn't get work done. He started working then split (now we know it was to go get killed)

[Mrs. Schmidty]

Good luck guys!

[claphamsa]

over an hour of no posts? can we vote spawlynchfall?

[Alan T]

Not sure if i have already

Vote oliegirl

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

over an hour of no posts? can we vote spawlynchfall?

No because of actions that could potentially occur today. Plus being in night phase is hardly a better option.

[PackerFanatic]

Since I missed the vote yesterday, I better get it in now.

VOTE OLIEGIRL

I would be surprised if this isn't unanimous.

[Tyrith]

*lies flayed on the deck, waiting for someone to clean him up*

[jeheinz72]

So what are we thinking, that since there were 3 kills last night we face still 3+ spawn?

Also, Pass, have you scanned someone today? If not, who is on the docket?

[jeheinz72]

Also, if we're operating under the thought that everyone has a survivor secret role, I"m not averse to getting some cast-off votes (provided olie is still lynched). By the looks of it, I may be the Gut Feeling (or Light Sleeper would be another option)

[jeheinz72]

To add, Pass, if you're taking scan recommendations, I'd pick Danny. It'd be a nice wolfish move to have Danny fake the Spawn Aware and clear engineers to gain trust. Other ideas would be myself (you'll live and I'll be cleared), Jackal, Bullet.

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

No because of actions that could potentially occur today. Plus being in night phase is hardly a better option.

didnt think so

jsut wanted to reinvigorate the thread

[Barkeep49]

Danny receives a comprehension medical examination from Pass.

[Poli]

Hooked on phonics worked for me.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Danny receives a comprehension medical examination from Pass.

Did they also both exit?

[Passacaglia]

Danny's good.

Hey, olie's in the thread. How about this for the tombstone: "I finally got to be a wolf, and on the day I got lynched, Pass didn't even bother voting for me!"

Peace out y'all.

[hoopsguy]

I'm sad the wolves didn't follow Danny's suggestion to leave me alive to continue building the post count. Sigh.

[oliegirl]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Danny's good.

Hey, olie's in the thread. How about this for the tombstone: "I finally got to be a wolf, and on the day I got lynched, Pass didn't even bother voting for me!"

Peace out y'all.

You just think you are funny don't you????

[Alan T]

Case for Passacaglia: Used the duplicant ability on the day that we were in space and there were 3 other kills. However technically he would have to have used it the day before for the training to take place the next day. I would have to go back to look at the timing, but I guess there is some possibility of him having done this while having a spawnling inside of him, but the percentage chance on that is fairly small..

So assuming Passacaglia is good, we get the following:

Vouched:
Alan T - Kwhit - Vouch for each other

Passacagalia vouches for:

Danny whom vouches for:

JeHeinz72, Claphamsa
and
PurdueBrad whom vouches for:

The Jackal


Which leaves at least 3 spawn among:

bulletsponge
oliegirl
Schmidty
Saldana
PackerFanatic

The only real holes in this is if Danny is the unaware spawn or Passacaglia is indeed bad, or Danny is good but misinterpreting how his spawn aware role works. Both of the first two are fairly small percentage chances, so it looks like we have a road of four people to plow through finding the other spawns...

[claphamsa]

Danny doesnt necesarily clear any of us... just doesnt pick anything up. we could go all hoops and start discussing odds... but i hated stats in school and i hate them nwo!

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

Danny doesnt necesarily clear any of us... just doesnt pick anything up. we could go all hoops and start discussing odds... but i hated stats in school and i hate them nwo!

Well, it is not difficult math to claim that the chances of either you or jeheinz being a spawn are smaller than anyone that hasn't even had two nights with a spawn aware without any alarms.

[claphamsa]

yeah, true. i think ive only had oen with him... but I see your point! just dont want people thinking were all absolutley trusted simply becasue of this

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

yeah, true. i think ive only had oen with him... but I see your point! just dont want people thinking were all absolutley trusted simply becasue of this

The only person I absolutely trust is Kwhit.. My post was all about percentages... for instance I am not entirely sure that there wasn't some possibility that Pass wasn't made a spawn in between using his duplicant ability.. but that is a high risk/low reward play for me to try to fish that out.. So the safest play here is to assume he is good and to look at the 4 people whom I can't find anything good about.. If we strike out there, then we have to re-evaluate things starting with Pass and/or Danny.

[Danny]

Im catching up now

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Well, it is not difficult math to claim that the chances of either you or jeheinz being a spawn are smaller than anyone that hasn't even had two nights with a spawn aware without any alarms.

The most cleared of the engineers is Jeheinz, followed by Claphamsa. I believe both to be good. Purduebrad is less cleared. I worked with him two nights, but he was one of three which lowered any chance I had of detecting him.

Still, the engineers are not 100% cleared because my ability may have missed a spawn, but it would definitely be better to look elsewhere. Also, now that you guys trust that I am spawn aware and the ship is mostly fixed I can probably use my ability a bit better now.

[Danny]

I'm glad I was finally scanned.

Alan, are you or Kwhit able to order people into the brig?

[Danny]

Purduebrad, I would like to work tonight with just you, is that alright?

[jeheinz72]

Just to play devil's advocate here, but couldn't Pass have just faked using the duplicant thing and then fake-cleared Danny? I mean don't get me wrong, Danny is getting the correct *read* on me, but I'm just concerned.

I'm still all for an olie lynch here today, but I just worry about this whittling being seemingly too easy

[jeheinz72]

I've put my order in to work on the beds tonight, fyi.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Danny

I'm glad I was finally scanned.

Alan, are you or Kwhit able to order people into the brig?

Nope, unfortunately.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Just to play devil's advocate here, but couldn't Pass have just faked using the duplicant thing and then fake-cleared Danny? I mean don't get me wrong, Danny is getting the correct *read* on me, but I'm just concerned.

I'm still all for an olie lynch here today, but I just worry about this whittling being seemingly too easy

He faked Barkeep listing him as a doctor?

[Danny]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Just to play devil's advocate here, but couldn't Pass have just faked using the duplicant thing and then fake-cleared Danny? I mean don't get me wrong, Danny is getting the correct *read* on me, but I'm just concerned.

I'm still all for an olie lynch here today, but I just worry about this whittling being seemingly too easy

I don't think you can fake the duplicant role. It's possible he got converted afterwards, but he would have been able to fake the duplicant role and comtinue faking scans I don't believe. If you don't want to clear either of us 100% that is fine, but there are a list of people without anything or anyone vouching for them right now that should be looked at first.

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by Danny

Purduebrad, I would like to work tonight with just you, is that alright?

pretty much everythign will be fixed by the end of the day right?

I say we all go fix bunks... then you can read everyone

[Danny]

I'll probably be dead soon now that I have been mostly cleared