LXXVII Spawn III: Game Over (See Post 4507)

[jeheinz72]

Just catching up now...looks like I'm at least still alive which is a plus!

[Alan T]

Kwhit, I put my order in to give a phaser to myself and Passacaglia. You can do what you want with the last unspent phaser.

[KWhit]

RIP Tyrith.

I don't exactly know he did it, but he protected me from an attack last night. I awoke to find him and a spawn in a battle and scooted out of there without being able to tell whom he was fighting.

So thanks for that, Tyrith.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Kwhit, I put my order in to give a phaser to myself and Passacaglia. You can do what you want with the last unspent phaser.

Will do now.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by KWhit

RIP Tyrith.

I don't exactly know he did it, but he protected me from an attack last night. I awoke to find him and a spawn in a battle and scooted out of there without being able to tell whom he was fighting.

So thanks for that, Tyrith.

I am guessing he was the Slayer role then.

[PackerFanatic]

Is the cargo hold going to be finished today? Then I can get at least one more phaser up and running.

[Barkeep49]

"This is how it is going to be, olie," Captain Alan informs. "I will get a phaser, as will Pass."

[PurdueBrad]

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

Is the cargo hold going to be finished today? Then I can get at least one more phaser up and running.

Assuming no work is faked, yes.

[PackerFanatic]

Once I see the order go in to fix the cargo hold, I will put mine in to attempt to recharge a phaser.

Actually - that is only if we have the correct amount of research in. I recall the day that I did my research, I never saw an order in that LSG did hers. BK - can you confirm?

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

Once I see the order go in to fix the cargo hold, I will put mine in to attempt to recharge a phaser.

Actually - that is only if we have the correct amount of research in. I recall the day that I did my research, I never saw an order in that LSG did hers. BK - can you confirm?

There has been one order of research submitted this game.

[Barkeep49]

"Olie I will also be receiving a phaser this evening," KWhit orders.

[PackerFanatic]

Damn. Okay, I will have to research today, then hopefully can recharge a phaser tomorrow.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

Damn. Okay, I will have to research today, then hopefully can recharge a phaser tomorrow.

Packer, just out of curiosity..

Do you have any other types of research you can do or anything other than recharging a phaser?

Researching that is pointless now as we won't get any phasers out once oliegirl is dead.. so it would be worthless...

Can you research a spawn detector or some other fancy thing?

[claphamsa]

research how to turn the phasers into spawn killer, but not people killers

[Schmidty]

Ok, since I have no day actions, and I need to hit the sack, I'll make the obvious vote now. I should be back around 6 pm EST or so.

Vote oliegirl

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

For the security HQ, it may mean someone faked it. Tyrith, Heinz and I worked on it but Tyrith left after a little while, as my PM said, meaning he died. So we only got credit for 2 hours of work. I *assume* Tyrith's death means we got no credit for his work.

The cargo hold with one left means that both Danny and Claph did do their work.

clap, since you're in the thread, can you confirm if this is true?

[claphamsa]

I did y work, as did Danny.... and nothing special happend. otherwise it wouldnt be done

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

I did y work, as did Danny.... and nothing special happend. otherwise it wouldnt be done

I've been paying so little attention to you engineers that I don't even know if all the work was done -- that's what I'm trying to find out now.

[claphamsa]

Alan is at an even 500 posts.... 41 behind poli in rome for the all time lead!

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I am guessing he was the Slayer role then.

This answer from me also explains what Tyrith meant the night he said he screwed up more than anyone would know that both doctors died.. He obviously didn't submit his protection request that night.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

votes not on hoops or PF mean nothign...... its eiather we hit 8 or not! so unless you are voting for one of them oh well!

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Says the guy with his vote not on one of them.

Originally Posted by claphamsa

yeah, ive got a couple people i could get behind, for various reasons.... but neither is named hoops or PF. so why bother changing!

This exchange, on page 32, screams clap=wolf to me. He may get my scan, but the part of me that doesn't want to die says I should go somewhere else. But the part of me that thinks I'll die tonight anyway says I might as well.

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by Alan T

This answer from me also explains what Tyrith meant the night he said he screwed up more than anyone would know that both doctors died.. He obviously didn't submit his protection request that night.

makes snese.. too bad he coudnt take the spawn with im!

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

This exchange, on page 32, screams clap=wolf to me. He may get my scan, but the part of me that doesn't want to die says I should go somewhere else. But the part of me that thinks I'll die tonight anyway says I might as well.

well scan me and you wont die.

[Passacaglia]

Heinz, you were also getting into it with Danny around the same time. Any thoughts on that, in retrospect?

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

Alan is at an even 500 posts.... 41 behind poli in rome for the all time lead!

I had over 1000 posts in the WW Survivor game I remember.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

This exchange, on page 32, screams clap=wolf to me. He may get my scan, but the part of me that doesn't want to die says I should go somewhere else. But the part of me that thinks I'll die tonight anyway says I might as well.

I'm trying to figure out who to look at also Pass.. the thing is we know there were at least 3 kills last night, so 3 wolves that don't include Clap if his work was done on the cargo hold..

I think what makes sense is we go back and double check what was needed before night and was done after night in regards to engineering work.. We assume Tyrith didn't do work.. and if all of that work is done, we know we have 3 spawn elsewhere

[Alan T]

Before:

Room Reports
Engine Room – Operational (Undamaged)
Water Plant – Operational (Undamaged)
Cargo Hold - Damaged 3 cycles to repair (Maximum Capacity: 125 units)
Water Supply – 23 units (Enough reserves for for just barely over 1 day at current consumption)
Crystilium Supply – 95 units (at least 75 required)
Security Headquarters Damaged 3 cycles to repair
Brig -
Weapons Locker – 3 unspent phasers (2 spent)
Slave Pens – Operational (Undamaged)
Sleeping Quarters – Damaged. 23 berths requiring repair (enough berths for 0 people to sleep)

After:

Room Reports
Engine Room – Operational (Undamaged)
Water Plant – Operational (Undamaged)
Cargo Hold - Damaged 1 cycle to repair (Maximum Capacity: 125 units)
Water Supply – 23 units (Enough reserves for for just barely over 1 day at current consumption)
Crystilium Supply – 95 units (at least 75 required)
Security Headquarters Damaged 1 cycle to repair
Brig -
Weapons Locker – 3 unspent phasers (2 spent)
Slave Pens – Operational (Undamaged)
Sleeping Quarters – Damaged. 23 berths requiring repair (enough berths for 0 people to sleep)

[Alan T]

So thats 2 people in each location.. Tyrith not doing work.. that means all engineers were not involved in last night's kills. (doesn't mean they aren't spawn)

[Passacaglia]

My other thought is to stay away from the engineers entirely, since they seem to be useful to us. So who's NOT useful to us?

There's The Jackal and bulletsponge -- I can't think of anyone who's been wounded lately. Can that even happen after liftoff?

PakerFanatic can still do research, right? Not useful in the same way as the engineers -- he could come up with nothing, but we would have no idea if he was faking.

saldana doesn't have much use to us now. I was hoping he could replace me or Schmidty, but with no second officer, I guess that's out.

Schmidty will be useful in a day or two if they damage the water plant. If he's bad, we're probably screwed. He used his duplicant powers before liftoff, right? I'm assuming he wasn't on an away team, but could he have been converted at night?

[Alan T]

We can break out list down into who could have and who didn't do the kills..

Assume didn't do the night kills:
Captain - Alan T
First Officer – Kwhit
Engineers
PurdueBrad Exhuasted
Danny Exhuasted
JeHeinz72 Exhuasted
Claphamsa Exhuasted
Doctor - Passacagalia Exhausted

Could have done kill:
Medic - The Jackal Exhausted
Medic - bulletsponge Exhausted
Sergeant at Arms - oliegirl Exhausted
Galley Master - Schmidty Exhausted
Slavemaster – Saldana Exhausted
PackerFanatic Exhausted

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Alan T

So thats 2 people in each location.. Tyrith not doing work.. that means all engineers were not involved in last night's kills. (doesn't mean they aren't spawn)

Yeah, looks like it. I was too lazy to go back and check (even though I've been all over the thread looking at other stuff), but 1 unit of damage screamed faking to me.

[Passacaglia]

Does working as an engineer necessarily mean you can't also perform an attack?

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

This exchange, on page 32, screams clap=wolf to me. He may get my scan, but the part of me that doesn't want to die says I should go somewhere else. But the part of me that thinks I'll die tonight anyway says I might as well.

I worked with Clap alone and did not get a report he is spawn. And honestly with the three deaths most likely coming from three different spawn, Clap couldn't be a wolf if there are only three spawn left alive.

[Alan T]

I assume oliegirl did one of the kills.. We can possibly assume Schmidty didn't because of BK saying he guarded the plant.. but I think I remember in past games that could have been deceptive.. I think we can give him the benefit of the doubt for now though...

The Jackal claims to have been in absolute trust with purduebrad, so maybe he might be a decent scan choice Pass, but I think we give him a slide too for now..

I still think Bulletsponge was being set up to be a patsy previously on the vote where I pushed back on and pushed LSG as the candidate, so not sure he is or isn't spawn, but I am less convinced he is..

So that leaves Saldana and Packerfanatic as higher than likely candidates to have done the night kills from where I sit.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Does working as an engineer necessarily mean you can't also perform an attack?

I assume that is the case...

Barkeep can you clarify that a spawn can't do two AP actions at night? (ie: crew work and a night kill)

[Danny]

Sent in my order to work on the cargo hold. Easy vote for today

Vote Oliegirl

[Barkeep49]

Danny is seen heading towards the cargo hold with tools.

[Danny]

I need to get going, but assuming the answer to Alan's question comes back as yes, I think we should consider putting the list of his suspected bad guys all in the hold together.

Let the people who could have made the kills last night kill each other off and those who remains we can vote off.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Danny

I need to get going, but assuming the answer to Alan's question comes back as yes, I think we should consider putting the list of his suspected bad guys all in the hold together.

Let the people who could have made the kills last night kill each other off and those who remains we can vote off.

Unfortunately, I've shirked my Warden duties -- sorry about that. Maybe Alan can put in an order for that, but I'm not sure.

[Barkeep49]

Packer is seen working on something in his lab.

[Danny]

That's unfortunate as on the list of people who could kill we can lynch Oliegirl, scan one and then put the other four in the brig.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I assume that is the case...

Barkeep can you clarify that a spawn can't do two AP actions at night? (ie: crew work and a night kill)

BK, can we get an answer here? It doesn't look like spawn kills take up AP in the rules. Can someone do a 'public role' night action, and perform a night kill?

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

BK, can we get an answer here? It doesn't look like spawn kills take up AP in the rules. Can someone do a 'public role' night action, and perform a night kill?

Yes

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Yes

Oh well, so much for those lists I made. Back to the drawing board!

Well Pass, my suggestion would be to scan Danny.. Danny seems to be vouching for the rest of the engineers.. so if he is good, that goes a long way.

Perhaps before you do.. might want to make sure we understand how spawn aware works better.. ie: is working in the same room at nights for multiple nights be enough, or does it require no work, or sleep or what.

[Passacaglia]

I actually liked your ideas on saldana and PackerFanatic. I figure the engineers are being useful, so I'm inclined to leave them alone for now. I'm also scared of Schmidty -- I'm pretty sure he used his duplicant power before liftoff, so he could have been converted.

[jeheinz72]

Ok, I have my order in to join in on the work, that should be coming soon. As far as what I missed, good gravy.

2 Spawn lynches = awesome
6 survivor deaths = not awesome.

I really don't feel too clued into the game right now, I see all the votes for olie. What's our rationale there? Is it the fact she should've been guarding the docs when they both died? If so, I'll vote shortly. If it's more complex, please clue me in. I have to admit the hoops/Alan back-and-forth had me scanning rather quickly.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Ok, I have my order in to join in on the work, that should be coming soon. As far as what I missed, good gravy.

2 Spawn lynches = awesome
6 survivor deaths = not awesome.

I really don't feel too clued into the game right now, I see all the votes for olie. What's our rationale there? Is it the fact she should've been guarding the docs when they both died? If so, I'll vote shortly. If it's more complex, please clue me in. I have to admit the hoops/Alan back-and-forth had me scanning rather quickly.

It is not only that she said she would guard someone who ended up dying, but that she then after the fact still said that she guarded them, but got away even though the rules state that is not how the protection role works.

[jeheinz72]

As far as my own innocence, I think obviously if Danny is cleared I should be given a nod to the good. I also placed a solid vote on LSG when I could've easily voted elsewhere and ran.

I'm open to any questions/scans.

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by Alan T

It is not only that she said she would guard someone who ended up dying, but that she then after the fact still said that she guarded them, but got away even though the rules state that is not how the protection role works.

Yeah that works for me. Voting next.

[jeheinz72]

Vote oliegirl