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Normal transition of power. He meets with Biden, stays until 1/20, comes to inauguration, etc. | 5 | 5.56% | |
He doesn't fight the result, but resigns prior to the inauguration. | 2 | 2.22% | |
He fights the result but gives up shortly before the inauguration (let's define "shortly" as "some time after the EC meets on 12/14") | 30 | 33.33% | |
He fights the result all the way to January 20th. Has to be physically removed. | 12 | 13.33% | |
He fights the result for a short time, but gives up and resigns before the inauguration | 6 | 6.67% | |
He fights the result for a short time, but gives up an then we have a normal transition as per option 1. | 30 | 33.33% | |
Other. (You know you gotta specify this one.) | 5 | 5.56% | |
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09-15-2021, 01:28 PM | #3801 | |
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At what point is a long-term prison sentence appropriate to you? For me, it is appropriate for those that are a danger to others and/or society. The type of folks that have the judgment and ability to post threats online (like, “thinking about heading over to Pelosi (expletive)’s speech and putting a bullet in her noggin on Live TV"), make public threats (such as chanting "hang Mike Pence!"), and then proceed to disregard law enforcement when entering the workplace of those that are threatened would qualify. If they are not getting long-term sentences, we live in a country that values the liberty of terrorists more than that of society or victims. |
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09-15-2021, 01:57 PM | #3802 |
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The number of people making a big deal about Newsom's win as potentially translating nationally to 2022 and beyond is ridiculous. It's freaking California!
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09-15-2021, 02:37 PM | #3803 | |
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Only a handful of those people are going to sniff a prison cell. You'll always need prison for the worst of the worst. But there is a good case to be made that it should be dramatically reduced. Technology allows for home confinement of non-violent offenders and rehab is a much better use of resources than prison for drug offenders. The problem we have is that our justice system is incredibly tough on certain demographics and allows for essential lawlessness for others. |
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09-15-2021, 02:51 PM | #3804 |
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As long as you have for profit prisons you will need a steady stream of revenue.
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09-15-2021, 03:19 PM | #3805 |
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09-15-2021, 04:12 PM | #3806 |
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Long term is in the eye of the beholder
Treason should get a very long term Kinda like they proposed for blm protestors Same? Same 🥨 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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09-15-2021, 08:52 PM | #3807 | |
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Treason? That's probably a great point for me to tick off likely everyone on the board by mentioning that I'm quite sympathetic with traitors in general as I hold no allegiance for the US or any other country and would be ashamed of myself if I did. Gratitude for being born here and the blessings I've had as a result, yes, but I don't elevate Americans above other people on the planet in terms of importance/value.
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I definitely don't know the right answer for every situation. But the question I have is, what benefit has been gained by someone being in jail for 53 years? We've lost money as a society sustaining that situation. The people have continued to pay for Sirhan's actions. I just say there has to be a better answer than that. I think there's a place for limited application of the death penalty, with a higher bar of proof than for normal crimes, extreme offenses such as serial killers, etc. Some institutionalization is necessary for the criminal insane, as dangerous as that precedent is, since some individuals simply aren't going to be capable of functioning in society. As I understand the history, we basically started using prisons more and more as a way to reduce capital offences (simplistic, but also I think accurate). I just don't think it's much of an improvement. Locking someone up and throwing away the key is not significantly more humane than killing them IMO. For related reasons I think all zoos etc. should be outlawed. It's just cruel. Justice matters, but I think we should try to satisfy it in ways that mandate offenders actually pay a debt to society. Being locked up, made hopeless, and unable to support themselves so that the taxpayers are forced to do it, does not accomplish this. It doesn't strike me as something that is just at all. |
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09-15-2021, 10:11 PM | #3808 |
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I actually agree with some of that
I’d say the people that tried to invade the capital with enough support and groupthink that had they actually gotten their hands on a member of Congress I fear what they would’ve actually done of their own accord or at the cheering of the mob were committing treason. I believe that had this been done by members of the left the right would’ve argued for treason and I find it laughable how they twisted themselves into pretzels to submit to Trumps defense of the mobs behavior or complete bizarro interpretation of what happened that day. Yes treason So even though you say you applaud the treasonous you agree that what they did (those that entered the capital or committed violence along the way [I’ll defer to the investigators and the tapes]) was treasonous? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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09-15-2021, 10:26 PM | #3809 |
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I applaud the idea of not having allegiance to any nation-state ... I would still be against many treasonous actions. As for January 6 crowd, I think they're definitely getting off far too lightly. I would call it insurrection, but probably not treason. As I've said in the past, I don't consider it to be nearly as surprising or new of an event as others seem to. We have decades of building to this, and I don't tend to distribute the blame in the same way most on this board do either, but I'm a lot more concerned about how we go forward than we got here.
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09-16-2021, 06:38 AM | #3810 |
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Not sure if we discussed this here or not, but I'd like to see many of those charged for Jan 6 lose the right to vote in federal elections. Most were there because they believed Donald Trump's election fraud calls and probably many still believe him and will follow him to the ends of the Earth.
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09-18-2021, 02:33 PM | #3811 |
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So just yesterday Trump sent a letter to Georgia's Sec of State that claims they found something like 43,000 votes there that violated some Chain of Custody rules, making them invalid, which would then give the state to Trump and they should start the process to decertify the election results there.
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09-18-2021, 02:41 PM | #3812 |
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Meanwhile there were about 500 people at the J6 Rally today and outnumbered by media and police.
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09-18-2021, 05:41 PM | #3813 | |
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09-18-2021, 06:05 PM | #3814 | |
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A coup attempt (however pathetic) is still happening. Every single sitting member of Congress (GOP and Dem) should be asked whether they agree with Donald Trump that states should decertify the 2020 election. It would be nice to know where they stand. |
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09-20-2021, 12:30 PM | #3815 | |
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They literally voted on this on January 6th. Asking new members is fine, but we have a vote on which ones did not want to certify the election and wanted a dictator for life. |
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09-20-2021, 12:30 PM | #3816 |
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The domains of the guy who setup the terrorist attack on 1/6 were revealed.
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09-20-2021, 08:25 PM | #3817 |
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One of Trump's lawyer's plan for Jan 6 was released through an FOIA request. The plan to steal the eleection was real.
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09-20-2021, 08:58 PM | #3818 |
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Laurence Tribe, mentioned several times in that responded:
Laurence Tribe @tribelaw · This Eastman memo pretends to be based on my analysis but in fact takes snippets of my work wholly out of context and spins a totally fake web of “law” that no halfway decent lawyer would take seriously. No wonder it couldn’t fool even Mike Pence.
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09-21-2021, 01:06 AM | #3819 |
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So, reading the Woodward and Costa book. I do have to say my respect for Biden so far has gone up, not down.
The intervention with Hunter hurts. Badly. I've had several uncles who are alcoholics, and reading the details of the intervention, makes me wonder how he got through that. I feel simultaneously bad for Hunter, and angry at Hunter for wrecking his family further after the death of Beau, (agreeing to take an Uber to an intervention facility, then after getting there, saying "Nah, nevermind" and going on an immediate binge..), but I can't imagine the hell everyone went through. The fact that Biden could have easily said "You've put yourself on a branch, and you seem insistent on sawing it off behind you, I love you, but I can't try to save you anymore" and didn't is a plus in my eyes.
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09-21-2021, 02:50 PM | #3820 |
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09-21-2021, 03:04 PM | #3821 | |
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09-23-2021, 10:05 PM | #3822 |
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I know this is shocking but a copy of the CyberNinja audit of Arizona was leaked...and Biden still won the state. In fact Trump lost 261 votes and Biden won 99 more votes for a total of 360 votes. Massive fraud indeed.
The Arizona Senate meets tomorrow to no doubt still claim Trump won
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09-24-2021, 05:32 AM | #3823 | |
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09-24-2021, 06:12 AM | #3824 |
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I can already hear the Fox news spin " for months the dems attacked the creditability of the audit but now that it goes their way they want to claim victory"
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09-24-2021, 07:33 AM | #3825 |
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My guess is that when they realized that a pro-Trump result would have no credibility, they decided to make it pro-Biden to lay the groundwork for 2022 and 2024: "See, unsupervised audits by GOP partisans are totally legit. Look at Arizona in 2020."
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09-24-2021, 08:37 AM | #3826 |
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I wonder how much of these audits are about gathering info they couldn't otherwise get. There's a lot of data being given to third parties in the course of these.
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09-24-2021, 09:34 AM | #3827 | |
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I'm shocked that is group appears to have some integrity.
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09-24-2021, 09:38 AM | #3828 |
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09-24-2021, 09:45 AM | #3829 |
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Or they don’t want the scrutiny of a congressional hearing.
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09-24-2021, 10:02 AM | #3830 |
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Not everything needs to be some grand conspiracy or master plan. It's good that they concluded Biden did win, regardless of why.
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09-24-2021, 10:38 AM | #3831 |
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Sadly, there will still be a spin and there will still be a large portion of the right these results don't faze in their belief the election was stolen.
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Yes yes cyber ninjas has been completely above board in the words they’ve actually said, you know the words coming out of their mouth, along with the senators funding them with taxpayer monies… it’s been completely above board the whole time. They say things the whole time that completely align with them results…
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If Trump Loses In November, What Do You Think Happens Next
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09-24-2021, 12:40 PM | #3835 |
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Horseshit attempt to nullify the election is still horseshit.
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Yes, it is very good that they stole Arizona money, used their false pretenses to raise other money, stole personal data and toted it to the mountains, exposed people's private data, and had no oversight...just to come to the same conclusion that the two other formal recounts and audits did. So good.
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09-24-2021, 01:38 PM | #3838 |
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Someone has to stan for the fascists and grifters though.
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09-24-2021, 01:39 PM | #3839 |
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It was either that or go to jail for election fraud/tampering with ballots. For their little ploy to work Trump or a Republican would have to become President to pardon them all.
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09-24-2021, 01:51 PM | #3840 | |
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They were never going to get in trouble for tampering or fraud. Laws don't really apply to people like that. It likely just sets this up as a norm where authoritarians can now "audit" the results in counties that didn't go their way and flip "elections". |
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09-24-2021, 06:44 PM | #3841 | |
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I see the grand tradition of putting words in my mouth hasn't gone out of style. I didn't say any of that was good. I said it was good that they came to a conclusion which backed up the results of the election. That's it, and that's all. |
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This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off.
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09-27-2021, 07:49 PM | #3844 |
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No discussions about the rump administration's discussions and plans to assassinate Julian Assange? That's some pretty big Putin-y shit there. The extent and ferocity of the discussions went far beyond, should we.
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09-28-2021, 06:01 PM | #3845 |
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King Toadstool should get #DogtheBountyHunter to find his missing votes.
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Looks like gold medalist Klete Keller was not real bright. Looking at 21-27 months in prison, theoretically. He pled guilty to the one charge so he wasn't charged with 6 others.
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09-30-2021, 01:12 PM | #3847 |
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Theoretically doing a lot of work there. Keller will get probation.
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09-30-2021, 01:53 PM | #3848 |
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Yeah, just like all of these dolts. There's just been no appetite to prosecute these criminals. I wonder why not... (insert Family Guy skin color gif)
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This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off.
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Is there anything that sums up the MAGA crowd better than raising $2 million for the jailed marine officer that criticized Biden's handling of Afghanistan before they realized he's anti-Trump and said he'd rather sit in jail than accept money raised by Trump supporters?
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