Maximum Football???

[RedKingGold]

#75???

BOO-YAH!

[st.cronin]

This might be the funniest bit of board ignorance since Passacaglia admitted he didn't know what his user name meant.

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

This might be the funniest bit of board ignorance since Passacaglia admitted he didn't know what his user name meant.

[FrogMan]

ahhh, I can breath again. I was about to start a dynasty on how I'd live without this magnificent thread...

FM

[kingfc22]

Phew, that was a close one. This thread can never die. muhahaha

[Franklinnoble]

In before it gets re-locked.

[rkmsuf]

Attempting the threadkill.

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Coke burning my nostrils.

You probably shouldn't snort so much then.

[MacroGuru]

Originally Posted by AZSpeechCoach

Damn...those are some fine rendered trees in the background. Makes me want to buy it.

Wow you are right....and the fans...they are awesome too....

BTW, had to find a way to get into this beast...

[rkmsuf]

Ant has 209 posts in here. That's impressive.

Honorable mention to Bee at 188.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by AZSpeechCoach

Damn...those are some fine rendered trees in the background. Makes me want to buy it.

Yeah, you should see what the trees in non-Dome games look like as well!

[Antmeister]

Originally Posted by rkmsuf

Ant has 209 posts in here. That's impressive.

Honorable mention to Bee at 188.

Wow.....more than 10% of my total posts are in this thread.

[rkmsuf]

Originally Posted by Antmeister71

Wow.....more than 10% of my total posts are in this thread.

You are like the prom king....or something like that.

[Coffee Warlord]

This thread must last forever.

[st.cronin]

If rksmurf made 10 percent of his total posts in here, this thread would be 100 pages (but wouldn't take much longer to read).

[rkmsuf]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

If rksmurf made 10 percent of his total posts in here, this thread would be 100 pages (but wouldn't take much longer to read).

I'm efficient.


I mean amphibeous.

[moriarty]

What happens when we cross 100,000 views. Doesn't look like there's enough space for the extra digit in the forum view, so does it reset at 0.

[rkmsuf]

Originally Posted by moriarty

What happens when we cross 100,000 views. Doesn't look like there's enough space for the extra digit in the forum view, so does it reset at 0.

Mr. Spock, tactical?

[Bee]

Originally Posted by rkmsuf

Ant has 209 posts in here. That's impressive.

Honorable mention to Bee at 188.

I think I lost the lead when I went away for the weekend...guess I'll have to try to catch up.

[WSUCougar]

Originally Posted by moriarty

What happens when we cross 100,000 views. Doesn't look like there's enough space for the extra digit in the forum view, so does it reset at 0.

Ohmygod! It'll be Y100K!

Quick! Panic! Sell everything! Loot! Pillage! Set cars on fire! Make love with the nearest bovine!

[rkmsuf]

Originally Posted by WSUCougar

Ohmygod! It'll be Y100K!

Make love with the nearest bovine!

Dude, is that what you did Y2K eve?

[cartman]

Originally Posted by WSUCougar

Make love with the nearest bovine!

Lee Harvey, you are a madman. When you stole that cow, and your friend tried to make it with the cow... I want to party with you, cowboy. The two of us partying together, forget it.

[JeeberD]

Originally Posted by rkmsuf

Ant has 209 posts in here. That's impressive.

Honorable mention to Bee at 188.

Ant

Bee

Who's third, Cockroach?

[rkmsuf]

and I heard coug rarely wears underwear. and when he does it's something unusual.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by JeeberD

Ant

Bee

Who's third, Cockroach?

I'll kick you SQUAH in dee nuts!

[WSUCougar]

Originally Posted by rkmsuf

and I heard coug rarely wears underwear. and when he does it's something unusual.

Barnakey? BARNAKEY?!? He owes me money!

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by JeeberD

Who's third, Cockroach?

[rkmsuf]

you are my big toe

[WSUCougar]

Chicks dig me

[Coffee Warlord]

Blown up sir!

[Bonegavel]

I'm still sticking with the fact that this game isn't going to get released.

[Crim]

Bonegavel "I'm still sticking with the fact that this game isn't going to get released."


What the hell does that have to do with this thread?!? Nice threadjack attempt, Bonegavel...



Crim

[bbor]

Hrm...maybe this thread should have stayed locked.

[KWhit]

I missed the lock. Why was it locked?

[Cap Ologist]

Originally Posted by Antmeister71

I would be afraid to hire him because I know it will take him months before he arrived at my house with a custom built lawn mower that would pass for a barely functioning weed whacker.

Then if I went down the list of services that he promised to offer, he would have a completely different interpretation of them. He would show me that the flaws in my lawn are really features that can be molded into the image that I wish it to be.

And with all that, he woud definitely overcharge you when you could get Madden's lawn service to do it at a discount rate.

You forgot the part where you'd have to wait for a 3rd party to show up and do the mowing.

[spcd]

It occurs to me, after browsing the current thread from Old Coach , and the one from 3 years ago, that the game seems almost identical. I would guess that the current "patching" process has been going on in a similar way for years, with new tweaks, fixes creating unforseen problems which leads to the next round of fixes which leads to......

Left unchecked, I could imagine patching continuing this way for another 20 years. Perhaps instead of a game, this is really an experiment in perpetual motion machines.

I can't help but feel that some of the betas on this game have been as much a problem as a help, they seem to be so intent on willing the game to work, they ignored the task of reporting the problems. Wishful thinking can go a long way toward imagining the game works. The fact that some of the people at Matrix are posting screenshots to show positives is remarkable.

Dunno where it was, but there was a link to another thread where a beta said no one tested multiplayer (as much as emailing files around can be multiplayer) and if one of the guys you're relying on to help balance the game insists on playing as though he's playing Statis Pro Football solo, then it leads to things like the safeties being OOB 3 years on. Nice to know though, provided you can call a defense especially designed to deal with the offensive play you're other personality just called, you'll get almost decent stats. At last! A game Sybil can enjoy.

This may be a clue why there is no chance of the game improving much

Originally Posted by Funky

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1096987
The only problem is the kicking and the punting so far

Either that person is insane, knows nothing at all about football, or is on some new Pfizer test program for the next combined hard-on/happy pill and suffering mild to serious side affects. Nothing wrong but kicking and punting?

It's one thing for a customer to be inane, but when the publicity guy from Matrix broke all sorts of rushing and passing stats the week the game went bronze-ish, then maybe someone, somewhere, should have considered that when that they didn't quite have the game they thought they would.

How does any team of betas not notice something as obvious as field goals worth 4 points or the clock not running and teams scoring 1000 points getting through even to the next public beta patch? Are they all just designing uniforms and trying to figure out how to move the safeties in the PDS?

Here's another candidate for professional help

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1094344
Ugh! I keep telling people that this isn't nessessarly a bug here. I think the game is accounting sacks like they do in College Football

because as we all know, you're typical NCAA game has 15-20 sacks per team each week.

The game is going to be in continual revision until someone pulls the plug, because you just can't try and build a CFL game, then bolt on 2 entirely different styles of football you've confessed to know nothing about.

I have to admit, I've been fairly defensive of Matrix up to now, but they're ultimately responsible for the release, and have the experience of dropping titles, and limiting the time/money spent on fixing lemons. Someone there should have been smart enough to see that this game did not, and never will, simulate any type of football season and dropped the price to $20 for the sandbox style game it is. Instead, they demanded a career mode and added another year for a set of half assed features instead of fixing the core design (you know, something like the mind-bending, unsolvable problem of scheduling which has now been left to the invisible horde of 3rd party add-ons)

Maybe with $20 it would be acceptable to have stats dependent on frame rate, no way to simulate an entire week's games, and two radically different engines depending on how the game is simmed - all design features which don't need fixing.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by spcd

Maybe with $2 it would be acceptable to have stats dependent on frame rate, no way to simulate an entire week's games, and two radically different engines depending on how the game is simmed - all design features which don't need fixing.

Fixed it for ya

[Bonegavel]

**down on hands and knees with fingers crossed twice**

I hope this post bypasses 76 and goes straight to 77. Come on Jebus, I've never been lucky at anything in my life. Please let the random page creator be on my side....

FWOOOOOSH!!!

[Antmeister]

Ok....David Winter has gotten angry:
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/fb.asp?m=1098611

[DeToxRox]

What?

This just is not the way things are in the NFL and if Pro Football

Please show me, anywhere, where I claim this to be an NFL product?

Edit, actually, I've gone over my FAQ on the web page and nowhere does it even mention the world 'simulation' or "pro football simulator". The only reference to 'professional' and 'amature' is in regards to the size/style of the playing field.

Seriously, I have never once, ever in the complete history if this project claimed that I was intent on building an NFL or 'professional football' simulation game. If there is any reference to such a claim on the maximum-football website, or someplace on the matrix games site, I will take action to correct it and I appologise for the eronous information.

Did he ever claim he was building something good?

[Antmeister]

Druez got angry too:
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/fb.asp?m=1098609

[DeToxRox]

Maximum Football is the Snakes on a Plane of computer games.

[hoosierdude]

What about this? American Pro = NFL style right?

Maximum-Football Feature List:

*Multiple rules styles. Play Canadian, American Pro, American Amateur, or Indoor styles of football, all with a single game.

[SirFozzie]

Originally Posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle

Maximum Football is the Snakes on a Plane of computer games.

But not even Samuel L Jackson could handle MAXIMUM FOOTBALL ON A PLANE!

[Karlifornia]

Someone with photoshop needs to put Samuel L. Jackson on the max football field and put the title on it:

"MISTAKES ON A GAME"

[Antmeister]

Ok it is starting to get ugly over there. The American/Canadian arguement is rearing its ugly head again.

[Antmeister]

Originally Posted by spcd

It occurs to me, after browsing the current thread from Old Coach , and the one from 3 years ago, that the game seems almost identical. I would guess that the current "patching" process has been going on in a similar way for years, with new tweaks, fixes creating unforseen problems which leads to the next round of fixes which leads to......
...
Maybe with $20 it would be acceptable to have stats dependent on frame rate, no way to simulate an entire week's games, and two radically different engines depending on how the game is simmed - all design features which don't need fixing.

Yes, that is why I get so frustrated reading posts over there. They are not even attempting to beta test this product and they hate it when someone says something negative about the game (regardless of how much it may help it).

[moriarty]

I don't know why this bothers me, but guys like MaximumFanBoy357 constantly claim it's not the game that's the issue, it's the evil people at FOFC - not that we're entirely innocent .

Originally Posted by Magnum357

Now that is something I can definitly agree with. In the posts I have read of this guy, he has not had many positive or constructive comments of the game.

As a matter of fact, I regularly see him on the FOFC message board continually bashing MaxFB.

This is in respose to elmerlee

Now Elmerlee may be someone here, but I've never seen anyone here post under that name. But of course MaxFanBoy regularly sees him here bashing the game.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Antmeister71

Ok....David Winter has gotten angry:

Oooooh, I'm terrified.

What's he gonna do? Threaten to release another game?

[McSweeny]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Oooooh, I'm terrified.

What's he gonna do? Threaten to release another game?

brilliant