2009-10 College Football Bowl Season thread - Page 7

sterlingice · 01-04-2010, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Looking forward to the game tonight, even though I would have preferred both teams against traditional powers.

Unfortunately, I just don't see how it was going to happen in any form or fashion:
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sterlingice · 01-04-2010, 08:43 PM

Wow. Horrible, horrible call. Should have been offensive pass interference.

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JPhillips · 01-04-2010, 08:56 PM

Watch out, TCU fans are going to get your nose!

cuervo72 · 01-04-2010, 09:03 PM

Wow, some of those Boise State majorette types are uh...substantial.

Senator · 01-04-2010, 09:22 PM

Help me cheer on the Frogs! #18 is a friend on the families.

cuervo72 · 01-04-2010, 09:43 PM

"Cummunication", Fox? Really?

MJ4H · 01-04-2010, 09:47 PM

Young Drachma · 01-04-2010, 10:01 PM

Where do folks get their live internet TV from these days? I forget...

Matthean · 01-04-2010, 10:17 PM

Awesome fake punt.

kingfc22 · 01-04-2010, 10:18 PM

That was a ballsy call.

Matthean · 01-04-2010, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

That was a ballsy call.

Yep, rush was there as well. If that doesn't work, it might be game over going the other way. I fully admit I was drinking more of the TCU Kool-Aid before the game, but I'm happy to see BSU doing so well.

MizzouRah · 01-04-2010, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

Awesome fake punt.

I love the way Boise St. pulls tricks out of their hats on every big game they play in. Both teams have been fun to watch.

Galaril · 01-04-2010, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

I love the way Boise St. pulls tricks out of their hats on every big game they play in. Both teams have been fun to watch.

Great game to watch. The Boise state program is impressive that last few years. I did not give them much chance tonight but it is obvious they came to win.

sterlingice · 01-04-2010, 10:44 PM

This has been a really fun game to watch. Tho I'd really like it to come down to the wire here with TCU a lot closer. Hell, or OT.

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Galaril · 01-04-2010, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

Wow, some of those Boise State majorette types are uh...substantial.

Yeah, no kidding I thought the same thing. I guess that is why the cameras are on the TCU girls 85% of the time.

sterlingice · 01-04-2010, 10:49 PM

Oops. Dalton just threw it up for grabs one too many times.

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SackAttack · 01-04-2010, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaril

Yeah, no kidding I thought the same thing. I guess that is why the cameras are on the TCU girls 85% of the time.

Including, evidently, the obligatory "We have to get footage of SOMEBODY crying after that ending...quick, to the song girls/cheerleaders/whatever the hell they're called!"

Matthean · 01-04-2010, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaril

Yeah, no kidding I thought the same thing. I guess that is why the cameras are on the TCU girls 85% of the time.

Well, a number of the TCU cheerleaders/fans were rather attractive.

Senator · 01-04-2010, 10:54 PM

We do have pretty girls in Fort Worth.

bronconick · 01-04-2010, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

Well, a number of the TCU cheerleaders/fans were rather attractive.

I don't think I've ever seen such a disparity in the hotness of fanbases at a bowl game. Big Ten schools don't have a high percentage, but with 40,000 on campus, they usually can scrounge up enough for the bowl games.

Galaril · 01-04-2010, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

Well, a number of the TCU cheerleaders/fans were rather attractive.

oh yeah for sure. My wife walking by the tv a few times and could not figure out why I was watching this game until she so some of the girls in purple

Senator · 01-04-2010, 11:06 PM

For some reason I thought this was well known.

RainMaker · 01-04-2010, 11:14 PM

Yeah, holy shit. I should have gone to school in Texas. Puts the midwest girls to shame.

molson · 01-04-2010, 11:52 PM

14-0 looks pretty good.

And 49-4 the last 4 seasons, with 2 undefeated seasons, and 3 undefeated regular seasons. With 22 starters back next year, it will be interesting to see where they're ranked pre-season.

And yes, Boise St. is not a hot chick school. And a lot of the men are rural cowboy types - so it's a real uphill climb, as far as I can tell.

sterlingice · 01-05-2010, 12:06 AM

Seriously? All 22 starters back to Boise State?

Who do they have scheduled in the non conference?

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sterlingice · 01-05-2010, 12:21 AM

Looks like I just answered my own question

2010 Boise State non-conference games:

Sat, Sep 11	Toledo	Boise, ID (Bronco Stadium)	TBA
Sat, Sep 18	Wyoming	at Laramie, WY	TBA
Sat, Sep 25	Oregon State	Boise, ID (Bronco Stadium)	TBA
Sat, Oct 02	Virginia Tech	at Fed Ex Field	TBA

Oregon State and Virginia Tech. If they win both of those...

(...well, they'll still get screwed out of any legit chance they have to win it all. But it will definitely look good on paper.)

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bhlloy · 01-05-2010, 12:53 AM

I don't think a Va Tech win will look better than the Oregon win this year. So yeah, if they didn't make it this year they have no shot next year. They need a lot of help (no unbeaten teams from any BCS conference, no real impressive 1 loss team either)

Replace Toledo and Wyoming with 2 mid-feeder BCS conference teams and you might have a shot.

Ajaxab · 01-05-2010, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

Including, evidently, the obligatory "We have to get footage of SOMEBODY crying after that ending...quick, to the song girls/cheerleaders/whatever the hell they're called!"

It seemed like there was an obligatory fan base shot after every single play. The basic directorial pattern involved showing the play, showing the replay, cut to crowd shot 1, cut to crowd shot 2, and show one of the coaches. Rinse and repeat. I felt like I had tuned in to watch the 2010 Fiesta Bowl Fans as much as I was watching the 2010 Fiesta Bowl.

JonInMiddleGA · 01-05-2010, 01:56 PM

Just a random aside from the overnight ratings.

Year to year ratings for the Fiesta Bowl, A18-49, down 30% from the Texas-Ohio State matchup a year ago (4.2 from a 5.7).

Last year's pre-game actually outdrew this year's game (4.4 to 4.2).

Mizzou B-ball fan · 01-05-2010, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Just a random aside from the overnight ratings.

Year to year ratings for the Fiesta Bowl, A18-49, down 30% from the Texas-Ohio State matchup a year ago (4.2 from a 5.7).

Last year's pre-game actually outdrew this year's game (4.4 to 4.2).

If that's a quarterfinal matchup of a playoff, it draws a lot better ratings. The game is useless without a true playoff from a ratings perspective.

JonInMiddleGA · 01-05-2010, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

If that's a quarterfinal matchup of a playoff, it draws a lot better ratings. The game is useless without a true playoff from a ratings perspective.

That game was useless regardless of a playoff. Hell, the game was almost half over before I even remember they were playing, and I at least kept up with a lot of the obscure bowls in mid-December. A playoff wouldn't change my interest in Boise vs TCU in the least and would simply diminish my interest in the subsequent games when one of them moved on.

Sadly, I doubt tonight's ratings will be any better.

sterlingice · 01-05-2010, 02:55 PM

But what's the answer, pertaining to this year, JIMGA?

Most of the marquee programs are down just a little. Heck, you could see that in the rankings: the only two conferences with 4 ranked teams were the Big 10 and Pac-10 and they ended up beating up on each other so there was no 0-loss team and the highest ranked in those conference were 7 and 8, respectively, and went to the Rose Bowl.

Sure, I would have loved TCU/Boise vs Alabama, TCU/Boise vs Texas, and Cincy (pre-Kelly leaving) vs Florida. But that never would have happened, not with the current NCAA leadership.

And, short of a playoff, there weren't many good "traditional" matchups out there. God knows I don't need 4 loss LSU or Nebraska in there just because they are name programs.

Really, do even Alabama or Texas strike a lot of fear into anyone's heart? They're talented but incomplete teams. Then when your top 10 continues with Cincy, TCU, Florida, Boise St, Oregon, Ohio St, Georgia Tech, and Iowa- what's a bowl game to do?

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JonInMiddleGA · 01-05-2010, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

But what's the answer, pertaining to this year, JIMGA?

I think there's certainly a degree of "the teams are down, the ratings will probably be down" this year. Not sure there's any way to avoid that from time to time. The Fiesta went with a game that kind of fits their wildcard image anyway, the ratings just paid the price for it.

Without taking the time to go back through all the scenarios, I think Penn State might have been the only unselected option in the top 14 that might have improved the ratings but that would have been marginal too.

It was just a down year for college football in general I think, it's going to happen once in a while.

cuervo72 · 01-05-2010, 03:15 PM

Bah, they should just do away with all the pretense and just set up bowls with USC, Texas, Notre Dame, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, Oklahoma, Nebraska, The U and half the SEC every year and just give the big 'ol finger to everyone else.

JonInMiddleGA · 01-05-2010, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

Bah, they should just do away with all the pretense and just set up bowls with USC, Texas, Notre Dame, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, Oklahoma, Nebraska, The U and half the SEC every year and just give the big 'ol finger to everyone else.

{shrug} Would be more interesting to me than the prospect of seeing Boise play in January.

cuervo72 · 01-05-2010, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

{shrug} Would be more interesting to me than the prospect of seeing Boise play in January.

Right - and you're obviously not alone. So in throwing these schools a bone to make their process look more like a legitimate "championship", they're not fully satisfying those schools (they don't have an ACTUAL shot at the big game), they're pissing off fans that want a playoff, they're pissing off fans that don't want a playoff and just want the big programs, and they're sacrificing ratings.

The BCS doesn't seem optimal.

tarcone · 01-05-2010, 04:23 PM

Game time is close at hand.
Talked to my brother earlier today, who is in Miami. Says temp is 58. Colder weather should favor Iowa and slow down GT.
35,000 Hawk fans down there. Good showing.

GO HAWKS

JonInMiddleGA · 01-05-2010, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

The BCS doesn't seem optimal.

I can't disagree with that statement too much. It accomplishes its primary purpose -- matching the #1 and #2 ranked teams head to head in a bowl -- well enough I think but beyond that we end up with less appealing matchups even than the pre-BCS system(s) provided.

Honolulu_Blue · 01-05-2010, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tarcone

Game time is close at hand.
Talked to my brother earlier today, who is in Miami. Says temp is 58. Colder weather should favor Iowa and slow down GT.
35,000 Hawk fans down there. Good showing.

GO HAWKS

You think 58 degrees is cold enough to actually impact the game? How is 58 degrees going to slow GT down? What are they a bunch of hot house flowers that wilt and die when the temperature falls below 60?

58 degrees is quite moderate. Unless it's raining or really windy, I can't see how 58 degrees is going to impact the game or benefit one team or another.

As Stringer Bell so eloquently put it:

"Aint nobody got nothing to say about a 40-degree day. Fifty. Bring a smile to your face. Sixty, shit, n_____ is damn near barbecuing on that motherfucker. Go down to 20, n_____ get their bitch on. Get their blood complaining."

JonInMiddleGA · 01-05-2010, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

You think 58 degrees is cold enough to actually impact the game?

Y'never know, I mean I've heard complaints (from the local press) today that included how ice in drinks wasn't melting because it was so cold (i.e. 50'ish).

tarcone · 01-05-2010, 04:38 PM

One can hope.

Should be a great game. Cant wait to the start. Iowa hasnt won a BCS-type game since the mid 50s. Hoping Ferentz learned from the shellacking USC put on us the last time we were in the Orange Bowl.

JonInMiddleGA · 01-05-2010, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tarcone

Iowa hasnt won a BCS-type game since the mid 50s.

Sounds familiar, GT hasn't won a current BCS bowl since 1955, beating Pitt 7-0 in the Sugar.

Karlifornia · 01-05-2010, 05:22 PM

GT/Iowa is gonna be the game I'm gonna skip. Just don't care at all about either team. No real exciting players. I think the Warriors are playing tonight.

JonInMiddleGA · 01-05-2010, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Karlifornia

No real exciting players.

Now Lord only knows I can find plenty to criticize the Jackets this year but I can't say that's one of the issues I've run across before.

Jonathan Dwyer & Derrick Morgan are likely first round picks (although I'm concerned whether Morgan will look like one tonight), Demaryous Thomas & Nesbitt are both fun to watch in their own way and Tarrant isn't dull as a punt returner. And the Tech defense can usually find a way to make anyone's offense exciting.

cuervo72 · 01-05-2010, 06:17 PM

You know...I wonder if there are just too many "Division I" (FBS, whatever) teams. Take the BCS conferences (and ND), make them their own top division, and mandate that they can only play other schools in that superdivision. No Upper Middle Arkansas State, no more College of the Immaculate Potato Chip, no more Dewey College for Librarians.

Those schools can't survive w/o the money they now get for prostituting themselves? Fine - the bigger schools can just give them the same kickbacks from revenue sharing or NCAA dues or whatever.

Boise State, BYU, Utah, TCU and the rest of those guys then get their own playoff for their level.

JonInMiddleGA · 01-05-2010, 07:23 PM

"Coach Johnson, what do you need to do to win tonight"

And as that question hung in the air, I sincerely wondered whether he was going to reply "Score more points than Iowa".

Radii · 01-05-2010, 07:26 PM

LETS GO YELLOW JACKETS ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

tarcone · 01-05-2010, 07:36 PM

TD IOWA

mauchow · 01-05-2010, 07:36 PM

Woot! Go Big 10.

If they can win the four of the bigger games, that would be great.

Wisconsin over Miami
Penn St over LSU
Ohio St over Oregon

soon to be Iowa over GT..?

And everyone saying the Big 10 was down big time this year.. glad to see they're holding their own this bowl season.

tarcone · 01-05-2010, 07:44 PM

3 and out, GT. YES

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sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Wow. Horrible, horrible call. Should have been offensive pass interference. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

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JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Watch out, TCU fans are going to get your nose! __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

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cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Wow, some of those Boise State majorette types are uh...substantial. __________________ null

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sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	This has been a really fun game to watch. Tho I'd really like it to come down to the wire here with TCU a lot closer. Hell, or OT. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

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Senator FOFC's Elected Representative Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The stars at night; are big and bright	For some reason I thought this was well known. __________________ "i have seen chris simms play 4-5 times in the pros and he's very clearly got it. he won't make a pro bowl this year, but it'll come. if you don't like me saying that, so be it, but its true. we'll just have to wait until then" imettrentgreen "looking at only ten games, and oddly using a median only, leaves me unmoved generally" - Quiksand

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RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Yeah, holy shit. I should have gone to school in Texas. Puts the midwest girls to shame.

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molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	14-0 looks pretty good. And 49-4 the last 4 seasons, with 2 undefeated seasons, and 3 undefeated regular seasons. With 22 starters back next year, it will be interesting to see where they're ranked pre-season. And yes, Boise St. is not a hot chick school. And a lot of the men are rural cowboy types - so it's a real uphill climb, as far as I can tell.

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sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Seriously? All 22 starters back to Boise State? Who do they have scheduled in the non conference? SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

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bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	I don't think a Va Tech win will look better than the Oregon win this year. So yeah, if they didn't make it this year they have no shot next year. They need a lot of help (no unbeaten teams from any BCS conference, no real impressive 1 loss team either) Replace Toledo and Wyoming with 2 mid-feeder BCS conference teams and you might have a shot.

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JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Just a random aside from the overnight ratings. Year to year ratings for the Fiesta Bowl, A18-49, down 30% from the Texas-Ohio State matchup a year ago (4.2 from a 5.7). Last year's pre-game actually outdrew this year's game (4.4 to 4.2). __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis Last edited by JonInMiddleGA : 01-05-2010 at 01:57 PM.

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sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	But what's the answer, pertaining to this year, JIMGA? Most of the marquee programs are down just a little. Heck, you could see that in the rankings: the only two conferences with 4 ranked teams were the Big 10 and Pac-10 and they ended up beating up on each other so there was no 0-loss team and the highest ranked in those conference were 7 and 8, respectively, and went to the Rose Bowl. Sure, I would have loved TCU/Boise vs Alabama, TCU/Boise vs Texas, and Cincy (pre-Kelly leaving) vs Florida. But that never would have happened, not with the current NCAA leadership. And, short of a playoff, there weren't many good "traditional" matchups out there. God knows I don't need 4 loss LSU or Nebraska in there just because they are name programs. Really, do even Alabama or Texas strike a lot of fear into anyone's heart? They're talented but incomplete teams. Then when your top 10 continues with Cincy, TCU, Florida, Boise St, Oregon, Ohio St, Georgia Tech, and Iowa- what's a bowl game to do? SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

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cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Bah, they should just do away with all the pretense and just set up bowls with USC, Texas, Notre Dame, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, Oklahoma, Nebraska, The U and half the SEC every year and just give the big 'ol finger to everyone else. __________________ null

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tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	Game time is close at hand. Talked to my brother earlier today, who is in Miami. Says temp is 58. Colder weather should favor Iowa and slow down GT. 35,000 Hawk fans down there. Good showing. GO HAWKS

01-05-2010, 04:38 PM	#341
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	One can hope. Should be a great game. Cant wait to the start. Iowa hasnt won a BCS-type game since the mid 50s. Hoping Ferentz learned from the shellacking USC put on us the last time we were in the Orange Bowl.

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Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	GT/Iowa is gonna be the game I'm gonna skip. Just don't care at all about either team. No real exciting players. I think the Warriors are playing tonight. __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

01-05-2010, 06:17 PM	#345
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	You know...I wonder if there are just too many "Division I" (FBS, whatever) teams. Take the BCS conferences (and ND), make them their own top division, and mandate that they can only play other schools in that superdivision. No Upper Middle Arkansas State, no more College of the Immaculate Potato Chip, no more Dewey College for Librarians. Those schools can't survive w/o the money they now get for prostituting themselves? Fine - the bigger schools can just give them the same kickbacks from revenue sharing or NCAA dues or whatever. Boise State, BYU, Utah, TCU and the rest of those guys then get their own playoff for their level. __________________ null Last edited by cuervo72 : 01-05-2010 at 06:22 PM.

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JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	"Coach Johnson, what do you need to do to win tonight" And as that question hung in the air, I sincerely wondered whether he was going to reply "Score more points than Iowa". __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

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Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	LETS GO YELLOW JACKETS ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

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tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	TD IOWA

01-05-2010, 07:36 PM	#349
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Woot! Go Big 10. If they can win the four of the bigger games, that would be great. Wisconsin over Miami Penn St over LSU Ohio St over Oregon soon to be Iowa over GT..? And everyone saying the Big 10 was down big time this year.. glad to see they're holding their own this bowl season. Last edited by mauchow : 01-05-2010 at 07:38 PM.

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tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	3 and out, GT. YES

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