2007 NBA Draft/Offseason Thread - Page 7

Groundhog · 06-28-2007, 07:15 PM

Good pick by Minnesota. I expected Brewer to be gone one pick earlier.

Groundhog · 06-28-2007, 07:16 PM

Wright could be a big steal.

Groundhog · 06-28-2007, 07:17 PM

Gotta say, I'm not the least surprised that Noah is still on the board.

miami_fan · 06-28-2007, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

Good pick by Minnesota. I expected Brewer to be gone one pick earlier.

Agreed.

Logan · 06-28-2007, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

Corey Brewer should have stayed in school another year for speech classes.

Ouch.

ThunderingHERD · 06-28-2007, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

Good pick by Minnesota. I expected Brewer to be gone one pick earlier.

I'm not impressed at all by Brewer. Definately see him as a bust.

DaddyTorgo · 06-28-2007, 07:19 PM

thanks for filling me in guys. certainly not a direction I LIKE seeing the C's go in, but what are you going to do hmm?

st.cronin · 06-28-2007, 07:19 PM

Yeah, I think Wright has insane potential. He could be another Kevin Garnett.

Young Drachma · 06-28-2007, 07:19 PM

Hmm....everyone says he's gonna be good.

ThunderingHERD · 06-28-2007, 07:19 PM

Great pick for the Bobcats (finally). Wright will be a star.

Chief Rum · 06-28-2007, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Wow great call. I expect to see it in Simmons' column tomorrow.

Holy shit, this E interview is fantastic.

Wow, I'm shocked there was only one comment on that interview. I realize it's bad form to make fun of accents, but honestly, imitating Yi will be a comedy goldmine. Where are the sound bites from the Pirates and Shrek premiers? Heck, has he screwed Paris yet?

st.cronin · 06-28-2007, 07:20 PM

Wright or Noah would have been great picks for the Celtics, imho.

miami_fan · 06-28-2007, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Wow, I'm shocked there was only one comment on that interview. I realize it's bad form to make fun of accents, but honestly, imitating Yi will be a comedy goldmine. Where are the sound bites from the Pirates and Shrek premiers? Heck, has he screwed Paris yet?

Well he has been in LA for a few months right?

Groundhog · 06-28-2007, 07:21 PM

I was worried Wright would be the for the Bulls for a second or two there...

DaddyTorgo · 06-28-2007, 07:21 PM

I just don't see the C's going anywhere in the playoffs, even with Allen+Pierce...sure maybe they sneak into the 8-spot or something, but at that point i'd rather just miss the playoffs again and crap...even pick the china-man or wright, trade away pierce, blow it all up and keep rebuilding.

Chief Rum · 06-28-2007, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Ouch.

Word is Yi will be tutoring him on enunciation.

Groundhog · 06-28-2007, 07:22 PM

If Pierce/Allen stay healthy, AlJ doesn't regress, Rondo keeps it up, and Perk can be a legitimate starting C, they could be OK. I don't really like the make-up of the team, but they have some ballers.

Chief Rum · 06-28-2007, 07:22 PM

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Well he has been in LA for a few months right?

True, but there are millions of us out here, and we all have a shot, by law, with Paris.

ThunderingHERD · 06-28-2007, 07:23 PM

Surely the Bulls will take Noah.

Logan · 06-28-2007, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Wow, I'm shocked there was only one comment on that interview. I realize it's bad form to make fun of accents, but honestly, imitating Yi will be a comedy goldmine. Where are the sound bites from the Pirates and Shrek premiers? Heck, has he screwed Paris yet?

It's bad form in society. Luckily, FOFC is not society. Discuss.

st.cronin · 06-28-2007, 07:23 PM

The most awesome thing in the entire world would be if Sacramento picked Law. Atlanta would then have to take the bumble bee at #11, right?

Groundhog · 06-28-2007, 07:23 PM

4 tarheels on the Bobcats roster now.

Chief Rum · 06-28-2007, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

If Pierce/Allen stay healthy, AlJ doesn't regress, Rondo keeps it up, and Perk can be a legitimate starting C, they could be OK. I don't really like the make-up of the team, but they have some ballers.

Eastern Conference people. Barring some other major trades, I predict Bulls versus Celtics in the conference finals prior to the thrashing from whomever Stern says will win the West.

Groundhog · 06-28-2007, 07:24 PM

Yeah, Bulls will have to take Noah.

JeeberD · 06-28-2007, 07:24 PM

The speculation on the Rockets board is the the #26 for Ike trade, to make the numbers work, would actually be #26, Rafer Alston, and Luther Head for Ike and Jamaal Tinsley.

Hate to see Luth go, but I like Ike and think he could do well next to Yao.

Jas_lov · 06-28-2007, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

I just don't see the C's going anywhere in the playoffs, even with Allen+Pierce...sure maybe they sneak into the 8-spot or something, but at that point i'd rather just miss the playoffs again and crap...even pick the china-man or wright, trade away pierce, blow it all up and keep rebuilding.

You don't think they're one decent big man away from being a top team in the east with Allen and Pierce? Of course the Celtics have needed a center forever and have never gotten him.

miami_fan · 06-28-2007, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

Yeah, Bulls will have to take Noah.

I think they should trade the pick

ThunderingHERD · 06-28-2007, 07:25 PM

Good pick. I like Noah better than Horford--though I wouldn't bet the arm on either of them.

molson · 06-28-2007, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

If Pierce/Allen stay healthy, AlJ doesn't regress, Rondo keeps it up, and Perk can be a legitimate starting C, they could be OK. I don't really like the make-up of the team, but they have some ballers.

They basically now have a 3-year window to be a 45-50 win team, before they have to rebuild again. Of course, that's exactly where they were when they blew everything up last time.

DeToxRox · 06-28-2007, 07:26 PM

Ben Wallace is now the third worst shooter on the Bulls.

Groundhog · 06-28-2007, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

The speculation on the Rockets board is the the #26 for Ike trade, to make the numbers work, would actually be #26, Rafer Alston, and Luther Head for Ike and Jamaal Tinsley.

Hate to see Luth go, but I like Ike and think he could do well next to Yao.

Hm, I don't know that I like that trade for the Rockets. Isn't Tinsley's contract bad and long?

Chief Rum · 06-28-2007, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

The most awesome thing in the entire world would be if Sacramento picked Law. Atlanta would then have to take the bumble bee at #11, right?

My bro said earlier he thought the Kings would pick Noah. A pretty boy trust fund child who looks like he wears makeup on the court, playing in front of the gap-tooth rednecks of Sacramento? Oh please make that happen...

...shoot, stupid Bulls.

Atocep · 06-28-2007, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

Yeah, Bulls will have to take Noah.

I know he fits what Skiles is doing there, but does he make them any better? Rebounding and defense certainly weren't the Bulls problem last season, but consistent scoring was.

DaddyTorgo · 06-28-2007, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

They basically now have a 3-year window to be a 45-50 win team, before they have to rebuild again. Of course, that's exactly where they were when they blew everything up last time.

yep!

st.cronin · 06-28-2007, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Eastern Conference people. Barring some other major trades, I predict Bulls versus Celtics in the conference finals prior to the thrashing from whomever Stern says will win the West.

There is no conceivable way for Cleveland to avoid the conference finals, unless LeBron James suddenly retires or something.

Logan · 06-28-2007, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

I just don't see the C's going anywhere in the playoffs, even with Allen+Pierce...sure maybe they sneak into the 8-spot or something, but at that point i'd rather just miss the playoffs again and crap...even pick the china-man or wright, trade away pierce, blow it all up and keep rebuilding.

Well, it'll be interesting to see who takes the last shot...but with Pierce and Allen, that's two guys who could potentially carry the team on his back at any given time to get through the East. Get into the Finals, and anything goes.

edit: Damn, thread is moving fast. I'm gonna need to pick up the pace.

Groundhog · 06-28-2007, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

I know he fits what Skiles is doing there, but does he make them any better? Rebounding and defense certainly weren't the Bulls problem last season, but consistent scoring was.

I agree, but I think they were going to take the best bigman. Hawes might have been a better option due to his scoring touch, but I think Noah is a better prospect than Hawes.

Chief Rum · 06-28-2007, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ThunderingHERD

Good pick. I like Noah better than Horford--though I wouldn't bet the arm on either of them.

I guess that depends on what hand you use.

DaddyTorgo · 06-28-2007, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov

You don't think they're one decent big man away from being a top team in the east with Allen and Pierce? Of course the Celtics have needed a center forever and have never gotten him.

well they've got Jefferson continuing to develop as their "big man" so depending on how he develops, sure.

I don't know...remains to be seen how well Allen & Pierce mesh.

Chief Rum · 06-28-2007, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

There is no conceivable way for Cleveland to avoid the conference finals, unless LeBron James suddenly retires or something.

You're right. Cavs versus Celtics in the Sacrificial Lamb Finals.

Groundhog · 06-28-2007, 07:29 PM

Well, the draft has gone pretty much as expected thus far, with maybe Wright going lower than I thought he would.

Should be interesting to see how things go 10-20.

st.cronin · 06-28-2007, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

They basically now have a 3-year window to be a 45-50 win team, before they have to rebuild again. Of course, that's exactly where they were when they blew everything up last time.

I guess its possible for Rondo and Jefferson to suddenly transmogrify into John Stockton and Karl Malone. It doesn't seem particularly likely though.

ThunderingHERD · 06-28-2007, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

There is no conceivable way for Cleveland to avoid the conference finals, unless LeBron James suddenly retires or something.

I don't know. Unless LeBron gets some help, the Bulls will dominate the East for a long time. Tyrus Thomas is going to be an amazing player and Noah should hold down the fort inside well enough once Wallace is out of the picture.

Neuqua · 06-28-2007, 07:31 PM

I'm glad the Bulls took Noah. But moreso because I was afraid to death we were going to take Spencer Hawes who has "Chris Mihm" written all over him. Paxson has a very solid draft record and so if he think Noah can help the Bulls, I trust him.

Funny though, because had Noah come out last year, the Bulls may have taken him with their #2 last year. So I would think they might be happy with who they got a year later.

Coffee Warlord · 06-28-2007, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

I agree, but I think they were going to take the best bigman. Hawes might have been a better option due to his scoring touch, but I think Noah is a better prospect than Hawes.

Eh, I don't see Ben & Noah playing together much anyway. Noah should be able to provide good breaks for Ben while he fully develops, and hopefully take the starting center role down the line. Between Tyrus and Noah, one of them needs to learn how to score, though.

Chief Rum · 06-28-2007, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ThunderingHERD

I don't know. Unless LeBron gets some help, the Bulls will dominate the East for a long time. Tyrus Thomas is going to be an amazing player and Noah should hold down the fort inside well enough once Wallace is out of the picture.

Joakim is a bust. Write it down now.

No one will care, though, because, yes, Thomas will be very, very good.

ThunderingHERD · 06-28-2007, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

I guess its possible for Rondo and Jefferson to suddenly transmogrify into John Stockton and Karl Malone. It doesn't seem particularly likely though.

As I said earlier in the thread (and in last years draft thread), Rondo is going to be a very good if not great PG. As a starter for the last 10 games of the season he averaged 13.0pts.5+reb,5+ast,2.5 stl, only 1.9 to, , and shot 50+%.

st.cronin · 06-28-2007, 07:33 PM

I think Noah is as much of a sure thing as anybody in the draft. He'll be a very good player. Any of those Florida guys ... they just won back to back titles in college, that's gotta count for something.

molson · 06-28-2007, 07:34 PM

As a Celtics fan, I'm amused by the "well, they might get to the conference finals, but then what?" line of thinking. If the Celtics somehow got back into the NBA finals again, even as a 50 win team or whatever, it would be a HUGE deal, at least to me.

Neuqua · 06-28-2007, 07:34 PM

Chief, how big of a bust do you see Noah being? He's not being picked at #2, he's down there at #9. I think he could be a double-double player in the league, which at his draft position, I would think is a solid value.

06-28-2007, 07:15 PM	#301
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Good pick by Minnesota. I expected Brewer to be gone one pick earlier. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-28-2007, 07:16 PM	#302
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Wright could be a big steal. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-28-2007, 07:17 PM	#303
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Gotta say, I'm not the least surprised that Noah is still on the board. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-28-2007, 07:19 PM	#308
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Yeah, I think Wright has insane potential. He could be another Kevin Garnett. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

06-28-2007, 07:19 PM	#309
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Hmm....everyone says he's gonna be good. __________________ Current Dynasty:The Zenith of Professional Basketball Careers (FBPB/FBCB) FBCB / FPB3 Mods

06-28-2007, 07:19 PM	#307
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	thanks for filling me in guys. certainly not a direction I LIKE seeing the C's go in, but what are you going to do hmm?

06-28-2007, 07:19 PM	#310
ThunderingHERD College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Great pick for the Bobcats (finally). Wright will be a star. __________________ "I'm losing my edge--to better looking people... with better ideas... and more talent. And who are actually really, really nice." "Everyone's a voyeurist--they're watching me watch them watch me right now."

06-28-2007, 07:20 PM	#312
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Wright or Noah would have been great picks for the Celtics, imho. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

06-28-2007, 07:21 PM	#314
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	I was worried Wright would be the for the Bulls for a second or two there... __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-28-2007, 07:21 PM	#315
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	I just don't see the C's going anywhere in the playoffs, even with Allen+Pierce...sure maybe they sneak into the 8-spot or something, but at that point i'd rather just miss the playoffs again and crap...even pick the china-man or wright, trade away pierce, blow it all up and keep rebuilding.

06-28-2007, 07:22 PM	#317
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	If Pierce/Allen stay healthy, AlJ doesn't regress, Rondo keeps it up, and Perk can be a legitimate starting C, they could be OK. I don't really like the make-up of the team, but they have some ballers. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-28-2007, 07:23 PM	#319
ThunderingHERD College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Surely the Bulls will take Noah. __________________ "I'm losing my edge--to better looking people... with better ideas... and more talent. And who are actually really, really nice." "Everyone's a voyeurist--they're watching me watch them watch me right now."

06-28-2007, 07:23 PM	#321
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	The most awesome thing in the entire world would be if Sacramento picked Law. Atlanta would then have to take the bumble bee at #11, right? __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

06-28-2007, 07:23 PM	#322
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	4 tarheels on the Bobcats roster now. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-28-2007, 07:24 PM	#324
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Yeah, Bulls will have to take Noah. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-28-2007, 07:24 PM	#325
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	The speculation on the Rockets board is the the #26 for Ike trade, to make the numbers work, would actually be #26, Rafer Alston, and Luther Head for Ike and Jamaal Tinsley. Hate to see Luth go, but I like Ike and think he could do well next to Yao. __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

06-28-2007, 07:25 PM	#328
ThunderingHERD College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Good pick. I like Noah better than Horford--though I wouldn't bet the arm on either of them. __________________ "I'm losing my edge--to better looking people... with better ideas... and more talent. And who are actually really, really nice." "Everyone's a voyeurist--they're watching me watch them watch me right now."

06-28-2007, 07:26 PM	#330
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Ben Wallace is now the third worst shooter on the Bulls.

06-28-2007, 07:29 PM	#341
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Well, the draft has gone pretty much as expected thus far, with maybe Wright going lower than I thought he would. Should be interesting to see how things go 10-20. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-28-2007, 07:31 PM	#344
Neuqua Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago, Ill	I'm glad the Bulls took Noah. But moreso because I was afraid to death we were going to take Spencer Hawes who has "Chris Mihm" written all over him. Paxson has a very solid draft record and so if he think Noah can help the Bulls, I trust him. Funny though, because had Noah come out last year, the Bulls may have taken him with their #2 last year. So I would think they might be happy with who they got a year later. __________________ Our Deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?

06-28-2007, 07:33 PM	#348
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I think Noah is as much of a sure thing as anybody in the draft. He'll be a very good player. Any of those Florida guys ... they just won back to back titles in college, that's gotta count for something. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

06-28-2007, 07:34 PM	#349
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	As a Celtics fan, I'm amused by the "well, they might get to the conference finals, but then what?" line of thinking. If the Celtics somehow got back into the NBA finals again, even as a 50 win team or whatever, it would be a HUGE deal, at least to me.

06-28-2007, 07:34 PM	#350
Neuqua Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago, Ill	Chief, how big of a bust do you see Noah being? He's not being picked at #2, he's down there at #9. I think he could be a double-double player in the league, which at his draft position, I would think is a solid value. __________________ Our Deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?

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