2005 NFL Draft Thread - Page 7

Cringer · 04-23-2005, 07:58 PM

That is about what NFL.com says for him Arles. Strong, hard to tackle, basically just needs to work on technique

korme · 04-23-2005, 08:05 PM

how the bengals passed up on a corner like Justin Miller, opting to take a ILB is astounding. we have 3 quality LB's, no need to try another

Solecismic · 04-23-2005, 08:06 PM

Without Romeo and without any depth on defense, I certainly hope we're done with Mankins picks here in New England. Blackstock offers some of that flexibility Belichick loves.

Celeval · 04-23-2005, 08:09 PM

Any info on Brodney Pool out of Oklahoma? Cleveland grabbed him in Round 2 - I've read the NFL profile, but don't know much about him.

TazFTW · 04-23-2005, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solecismic

Without Romeo and without any depth on defense, I certainly hope we're done with Mankins picks here in New England. Blackstock offers some of that flexibility Belichick loves.

No Mankins pick because they traded it to Baltimore.

Cringer · 04-23-2005, 08:15 PM

So, I am thinking the Packers trade up for a FB now.....

TazFTW · 04-23-2005, 08:15 PM

Frank Gore for the Niners. Nice pick if he stays healthy.

TazFTW · 04-23-2005, 08:18 PM

dola

Charlie Frye lands in Cleveland. Very Interesting.

Cringer · 04-23-2005, 08:20 PM

nice pick for Cleveland me thinks...

duckman · 04-23-2005, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Celeval

Any info on Brodney Pool out of Oklahoma? Cleveland grabbed him in Round 2 - I've read the NFL profile, but don't know much about him.

He has the talent to be a top notch safety. However, he sometimes gets burn on deep patterns because he focuses too much on making a stop near the line of scrimmage. He doesn't have great recovery speed.

Arles · 04-23-2005, 08:25 PM

Walter was an interesting pick by the Raiders. Seeing him out here in Arizona, I think he's one of those good college QBs that doesn't translate well in the pros.

TazFTW · 04-23-2005, 08:25 PM

and now Oakland drafts a QB in Andrew Walter. Interesting to see how he does since he's coming off shoulder surgery and hasn't done any drills in the offseason.

sovereignstar · 04-23-2005, 08:30 PM

Is McPherson coming soon?...

duckman · 04-23-2005, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noop on 3/03/2005

Well it is looking more and more like [Adrian McPherson] is going in the first day. Who would have knew Noop again will be right?

Looks more like he's going to be a second day (5th round?) draft pick.

Foot meet mouth.

Cringer · 04-23-2005, 08:33 PM

Well, Mike Sherman just refered to Mike Collins as helping them out at safety and in the dime package, and Terrence Murphy as helping the return game and being a #4 WR. I guess we know their great expectations in their second round guys now.....

Watching the rest of this press conference, I feel a little bad for Sherman. They keep asking about new G.M. Tommy Thompson and how he has been and his call on things. But, then again if Sherman didn't do things like draft a punter who bombed in the 3rd round maybe he wouldn't have to answer these questions....

Arles · 04-23-2005, 08:34 PM

I like the Alex Smith pick by Tampa.

Abe Sargent · 04-23-2005, 08:34 PM

ESPN keeps saying that Barnes is the highest drafted OT by Jags since Boselli. But he's not. Barnes was taken pick 52 overall, both Pearson and Williams are OTs taken in the second round previously with a higher pick in the round. Idiot fact checkers. You'd think someone with ESPN would have noticed by now.

-Anxiety

Cringer · 04-23-2005, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Arles

Walter was an interesting pick by the Raiders. Seeing him out here in Arizona, I think he's one of those good college QBs that doesn't translate well in the pros.

Gil Brandt said he has him rated as an excellent pro QB, that is all I know about him. He actually said he had him higher then Fry and that other guy the Redskins took....

Cringer · 04-23-2005, 08:39 PM

I love the media.

media guy: Did Javon Walker retaining Drew Rosenhaus as his agent and the possibility of a future holdout lead you to the WR pick?

Sherman: Uhm, that didn't factor in. He was the highest guy on our board.

Arles · 04-23-2005, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cringer

Well, Mike Sherman just refered to Mike Collins as helping them out at safety and in the dime package

They also said he is going to be competing for the starting FS spot. The Dime would be if he loses that competition - and it's not uncommon for first round picks at DB to start in the nickel or dime.

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Terrence Murphy as helping the return game and being a #4 WR.

That return game was brutal for GB in 05. Plus, after Walker, the durability for Ferguson (neck) and Driver (size) are a big concern. I don't mind them getting a WR that can return.

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Watching the rest of this press conference, I feel a little bad for Sherman. They keep asking about new G.M. Tommy Thompson and how he has been and his call on things. But, then again if Sherman didn't do things like draft a punter who bombed in the 3rd round maybe he wouldn't have to answer these questions....

Going into the draft, GB had the following needs:

1. LB
2. FS, DB depth
3. rush DE
4. returner
5. WR
6. QB of the future
7. OL depth

To this point, they have used three picks and targeted 4 of their main 7 needs. If they can get a LB, pass rusher and OL depth in the next few rounds, they can come out of this draft OK.

Arles · 04-23-2005, 08:43 PM

Arizona's had a good draft so far. Green is a good corner to get in round 3.

sovereignstar · 04-23-2005, 08:46 PM

When did Andrea Kramer go wrong?

TazFTW · 04-23-2005, 08:48 PM

Karl Paymah? I smell holdout.

korme · 04-23-2005, 08:49 PM

what happened to that 1 minute long next gen madden commercial i was hearing about?

plus, did they even show the first rookies selected in the game like they have done in years past?

streetballer22 · 04-23-2005, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Shorty3281

what happened to that 1 minute long next gen madden commercial i was hearing about?

plus, did they even show the first rookies selected in the game like they have done in years past?

It was around 12:05 Eastern Time, wasn't too impressive but nice.

Cringer · 04-23-2005, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arles

They also said he is going to be competing for the starting FS spot. The Dime would be if he loses that competition - and it's not uncommon for first round picks at DB to start in the nickel or dime.

That return game was brutal for GB in 05. Plus, after Walker, the durability for Ferguson (neck) and Driver (size) are a big concern. I don't mind them getting a WR that can return.

Going into the draft, GB had the following needs:

1. LB
2. FS, DB depth
3. rush DE
4. returner
5. WR
6. QB of the future
7. OL depth

To this point, they have used three picks and targeted 4 of their main 7 needs. If they can get a LB, pass rusher and OL depth in the next few rounds, they can come out of this draft OK.

Oh, I wasn't really complaining, just babbling a little about the guys and what Sherman was saying. What you say is correct and I don't have a big problem with anything yet. A little odd on the WR I think, but I also like what I read on him so no big deal I guess.

Although, I did not have LB at #1 need going in. The signing of Reynoch Thompson yesterday, and the scheduled visit of Chad Brown next week told me they would like to go in with veteran guys at LB if possible.

edit: Ray Thompson

Arles · 04-23-2005, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cringer

Although, I did not have LB at #1 need going in. The signing of Reynoch Thompson yesterday, and the scheduled visit of Chad Brown next week told me they would like to go in with veteran guys at LB if possible.

edit: Ray Thompson

Excellent point on Thompson and Brown. That does change the needs a little bit if both come here.

General Mike · 04-23-2005, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shorty3281

what happened to that 1 minute long next gen madden commercial i was hearing about?

plus, did they even show the first rookies selected in the game like they have done in years past?

Here ya go Shorty

http://www.easports.com/games/madden2006/draft/home.jsp

TazFTW · 04-23-2005, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by General Mike

Here ya go Shorty

http://www.easports.com/games/madden2006/draft/home.jsp

Tee Hee

HomerJSimpson · 04-23-2005, 09:17 PM

Green goes, so that makes, what, 6 Qb's and still no McPherson?

Cringer · 04-23-2005, 09:19 PM

Does Chris Berman have more hair now then he did during the football season?

Young Drachma · 04-23-2005, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HomerJSimpson

Green goes, so that makes, what, 6 Qb's and still no McPherson?

Wondering where he and Clarett will go will make the 2nd day interesting for a change.

He'll actually play QB somewhere, eh? Or will they try to convert him?

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 04-23-2005, 09:25 PM

Not at all surprised about the selection of Frank Gore by SF.

Arles · 04-23-2005, 09:26 PM

FYI, GB traded down for an extra pick:

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Panthers get: Green Bay's third-round pick (No. 89 overall) and selected DT Atiyyah Ellison.
Packers get: Carolina's fourth-round picks (No. 115 and 126).

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 04-23-2005, 09:27 PM

Doesnt look too different from the current madden engine.

Cringer · 04-23-2005, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arles

FYI, GB traded down for an extra pick:

That DT turns out to be good, I'm not happy. Two more picks tomorrow is nice though I guess.

Arles · 04-23-2005, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cringer

That DT turns out to be good, I'm not happy. Two more picks tomorrow is nice though I guess.

He's in a group of about 5 guys at the DT spot and he doesn't fit Bates' system. I like the move as it gives GB three picks in the top 25 in the 4th tomorrow to get some defensive help. Right now, there are still a lot of DE, DT, and LBs grouped together and getting one more of those guys may be a better bet. Plus, it may allow them to get a guy for the OL.

Cringer · 04-23-2005, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arles

He's in a group of about 5 guys at the DT spot and he doesn't fit Bates' system. I like the move as it gives GB three picks in the top 25 in the 4th tomorrow to get some defensive help. Right now, there are still a lot of DE, DT, and LBs grouped together and getting one more of those guys may be a better bet. Plus, it may allow them to get a guy for the OL.

Yeah, I am fine with it. They also now have back to back picks with one of those picks right after Green Bays own 4th rd pick.

Guard (utility guy, guard/center) would be nice, thats for sure.

Arles · 04-23-2005, 09:38 PM

Another good value with Blaystock for Arizona. An OLB/pass rush DE tweener, but he should help Arizona's D.

TroyF · 04-23-2005, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noop

I am sure he maybe gon by the 2nd round... he has talent and in my opinion is the most talented of the QB's in this draft.

Well, still not gone yet. I really thought Denver would pick a QB on day one.

We'll see what they do with these two picks.

Francis_Cole · 04-23-2005, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHEMICAL SOLDIER

Doesnt look too different from the current madden engine.

That screenshot is from madden 2006, not madden next-gen.
The only good thing i liked from the madden next gen is the play calling system, when it looks like you are in the huddle looking up.
Probably won't be in the final version then

streetballer22 · 04-23-2005, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Francis_Cole

That screenshot is from madden 2006, not madden next-gen.

Big relief, that screen was pretty unimpressive.

Craptacular · 04-23-2005, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moriarty

I think it's a good pick if he can handle the weather up in GreenBay. Again, I'm worried about any California boy playing up there in the winter.

Someone may have already mentioned this in the millions of posts I've yet to read, but GB's current QB is from southern Mississippi, which is a little warmer than the SF area, and he's done OK.

TazFTW · 04-23-2005, 09:52 PM

The Broncos have selected 3 CBs with their 3 picks so far.

sovereignstar · 04-23-2005, 09:52 PM

Young Drachma · 04-23-2005, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sovereignstar

TroyF · 04-23-2005, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TazFTW

The Broncos have selected 3 CBs with their 3 picks so far.

If we pick a fourth, I'm going to scream.

TazFTW · 04-23-2005, 10:00 PM

Maurice Clarett???

Idiots!!!!!!

Young Drachma · 04-23-2005, 10:00 PM

WOW..Clarett!

TroyF · 04-23-2005, 10:00 PM

Ummmmm. . . Wow.

04-23-2005, 07:58 PM	#301
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	That is about what NFL.com says for him Arles. Strong, hard to tackle, basically just needs to work on technique __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

04-23-2005, 08:15 PM	#306
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	So, I am thinking the Packers trade up for a FB now..... __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

04-23-2005, 08:20 PM	#309
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	nice pick for Cleveland me thinks... __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

04-23-2005, 08:25 PM	#311
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	Walter was an interesting pick by the Raiders. Seeing him out here in Arizona, I think he's one of those good college QBs that doesn't translate well in the pros. __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

04-23-2005, 08:33 PM	#315
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	Well, Mike Sherman just refered to Mike Collins as helping them out at safety and in the dime package, and Terrence Murphy as helping the return game and being a #4 WR. I guess we know their great expectations in their second round guys now..... Watching the rest of this press conference, I feel a little bad for Sherman. They keep asking about new G.M. Tommy Thompson and how he has been and his call on things. But, then again if Sherman didn't do things like draft a punter who bombed in the 3rd round maybe he wouldn't have to answer these questions.... __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

04-23-2005, 08:05 PM	#302
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	how the bengals passed up on a corner like Justin Miller, opting to take a ILB is astounding. we have 3 quality LB's, no need to try another

04-23-2005, 08:06 PM	#303
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	Without Romeo and without any depth on defense, I certainly hope we're done with Mankins picks here in New England. Blackstock offers some of that flexibility Belichick loves.

04-23-2005, 08:09 PM	#304
Celeval Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cary, NC, USA	Any info on Brodney Pool out of Oklahoma? Cleveland grabbed him in Round 2 - I've read the NFL profile, but don't know much about him.

04-23-2005, 08:15 PM	#307
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	Frank Gore for the Niners. Nice pick if he stays healthy.

04-23-2005, 08:18 PM	#308
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	dola Charlie Frye lands in Cleveland. Very Interesting.

04-23-2005, 08:25 PM	#312
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	and now Oakland drafts a QB in Andrew Walter. Interesting to see how he does since he's coming off shoulder surgery and hasn't done any drills in the offseason.

04-23-2005, 08:30 PM	#313
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	Is McPherson coming soon?...

04-23-2005, 08:34 PM	#316
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	I like the Alex Smith pick by Tampa. __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

04-23-2005, 08:34 PM	#317
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	ESPN keeps saying that Barnes is the highest drafted OT by Jags since Boselli. But he's not. Barnes was taken pick 52 overall, both Pearson and Williams are OTs taken in the second round previously with a higher pick in the round. Idiot fact checkers. You'd think someone with ESPN would have noticed by now. -Anxiety __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-23-2005, 08:39 PM	#319
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	I love the media. media guy: Did Javon Walker retaining Drew Rosenhaus as his agent and the possibility of a future holdout lead you to the WR pick? Sherman: Uhm, that didn't factor in. He was the highest guy on our board. __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

04-23-2005, 08:43 PM	#321
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	Arizona's had a good draft so far. Green is a good corner to get in round 3. __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

04-23-2005, 08:46 PM	#322
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	When did Andrea Kramer go wrong?

04-23-2005, 08:48 PM	#323
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	Karl Paymah? I smell holdout.

04-23-2005, 08:49 PM	#324
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	what happened to that 1 minute long next gen madden commercial i was hearing about? plus, did they even show the first rookies selected in the game like they have done in years past?

04-23-2005, 09:17 PM	#330
HomerJSimpson College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Springfield, USA	Green goes, so that makes, what, 6 Qb's and still no McPherson?

04-23-2005, 09:19 PM	#331
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	Does Chris Berman have more hair now then he did during the football season? __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

04-23-2005, 09:25 PM	#333
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	Not at all surprised about the selection of Frank Gore by SF. __________________ Toujour Pret

04-23-2005, 09:27 PM	#335
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	Doesnt look too different from the current madden engine. __________________ Toujour Pret

04-23-2005, 09:38 PM	#339
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	Another good value with Blaystock for Arizona. An OLB/pass rush DE tweener, but he should help Arizona's D. __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

04-23-2005, 09:52 PM	#344
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	The Broncos have selected 3 CBs with their 3 picks so far. Last edited by TazFTW : 04-23-2005 at 09:52 PM.

04-23-2005, 09:52 PM	#345
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004

04-23-2005, 10:00 PM	#348
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	Maurice Clarett??? Idiots!!!!!!

04-23-2005, 10:00 PM	#349
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	WOW..Clarett! __________________ Current Dynasty:The Zenith of Professional Basketball Careers (FBPB/FBCB) FBCB / FPB3 Mods

04-23-2005, 10:00 PM	#350
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Ummmmm. . . Wow.

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