Music Maven 3 - Page 7

wade moore · 03-04-2005, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Airhog

Lucky for me Ive got about 25k in cash. I really think this will make it tougher on new bands, however, all of the bands already established wont have much problem with this.

As a new, struggling band it's hard... but it makes sense.. as I was reading and seeing the way to succeed in the game, it was not LOGICAL at all..

Ben E Lou · 03-04-2005, 07:10 AM

I agree that this is a very nice and needed change, although my heavy metal band, Battery Acid, is now *really* going to struggle. I was sort of "role-playing" with this band. They're SERIOUSLY into their music and their genre. On tour, they always look for clubs in their genre, and the "cooler" clubs second. They won't put a song in their set list until it is perfect, nor will they release any record or CD until it is perfected. They practice in their own garage, and will do so until they make some money touring.

I wonder if Battery Acid is gonna make it.

wade moore · 03-04-2005, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

I agree that this is a very nice and needed change, although my heavy metal band, Battery Acid, is now *really* going to struggle. I was sort of "role-playing" with this band. They're SERIOUSLY into their music and their genre. On tour, they always look for clubs in their genre, and the "cooler" clubs second. They won't put a song in their set list until it is perfect, nor will they release any record or CD until it is perfected. They practice in their own garage, and will do so until they make some money touring.

I wonder if Battery Acid is gonna make it.

I've had a VERY hard time writing songs and I don't know why... I have gone e or 4 months without a new song.... what do you do to get new songs, let alone to improve them?

Ben E Lou · 03-04-2005, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

I've had a VERY hard time writing songs and I don't know why... I have gone e or 4 months without a new song.... what do you do to get new songs, let alone to improve them?

Battery Acid practices as many as 19 days per month, boot camp, with things heavily tilted toward new songs at this point (8 or 9). I get one-two per month when I practice that much.

sterlingice · 03-04-2005, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

Battery Acid practices as many as 19 days per month, boot camp, with things heavily tilted toward new songs at this point (8 or 9). I get one-two per month when I practice that much.

Ouch. That's gotta hit their happiness hard.

SI

ntndeacon · 03-04-2005, 01:37 PM

woohoo My Math Rock band Calculii got interest from a label!

sterlingice · 03-04-2005, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

I've had a VERY hard time writing songs and I don't know why... I have gone e or 4 months without a new song.... what do you do to get new songs, let alone to improve them?

Once you are able to practice at the better practice spaces, it gets a lot easier. I go to "plush practice space" now and any time I practice for about 8 days (it could be less, I don't know), I get a new song. If I practice for 20+, I'll get 2 songs.

SI

ShovelMonkey · 03-05-2005, 11:27 AM

No comments today?

tanglewood · 03-05-2005, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ShovelMonkey

No comments today?

My debut single sold out all 20,000 copies and my debut album is still seilling over 10,000 copies 3 weeks after release.

Yay.

JeeberD · 03-05-2005, 11:32 AM

I'm kinda upset that living expenses went from $100 to $250. It's getting more and more difdicult for my fledgling band to make any money...

Swaggs · 03-05-2005, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ShovelMonkey

No comments today?

Yeah. When is Shovel Monkey going to release a single, so I can offer them a better contract?

Airhog · 03-05-2005, 12:02 PM

JeeberD just wait until you jump to 1000 a day as professional muscians

Coffee Warlord · 03-05-2005, 12:12 PM

You'll be happy to know that Breeding Pine Trees has written their first original song, A Ballad of Trout, which will be played live in the coming month.

Not doing as well is Office Pimps, who are not making nearly as much money, but now have 2 songs to their name, Shock and Awe and Hack and Slash.

vex · 03-05-2005, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

I'm kinda upset that living expenses went from $100 to $250. It's getting more and more difdicult for my fledgling band to make any money...

I'm at $5,000

vex · 03-05-2005, 12:18 PM

My two bands are at #1 and #2 on the singles charts this week

JeeberD · 03-05-2005, 12:20 PM

Yikes...

ShovelMonkey · 03-05-2005, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Yeah. When is Shovel Monkey going to release a single, so I can offer them a better contract?

Our new single, "Peter Jennings," is due out this month...

vex · 03-05-2005, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

Yikes...

It sucks, but you don't really notice it when you have $200-$300K in the bank.

Franklinnoble · 03-05-2005, 01:12 PM

The Elitists label made me an offer they couldn't afford...

sterlingice · 03-05-2005, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by vexroid

It sucks, but you don't really notice it when you have $200-$300K in the bank.

Yeah, I'm to the point where I pissed away some money on instruments. That's a part of the game that the dev has said he doesn't want to implement but I think would be a good idea. Tho the scale would be bigger...

Speaking of which, here's how I'd overhaul the economy:
1. Make it much harder for bands to book large venues. This may have been taken care of with the recent update but those of us who started out ahead of that curve are sitting there laughing all the way to the bank. There's no way that after 1 year of pretty much constant touring to start the game that I should be hanging out around 80 popularity when the max is 100. This would help add some stickiness to the game because it would take a lot longer to work up to playing places like American Airlines "20K" arena.
2. Uh, Europe sucks. Every venue is 5K or less. I doubt Fascist Eagle will ever go back. Realism is good, balance is better. It's not as if London or Berlin or Paris or Rome, etc don't have any large venues, either.
3. Make instruments do something. And by that, I mean, make sure every type of musician has a scale of a few instruments and they all do similar things. 10 types of guitars, 10 types of keyboards, 10 types of bass, etc... And while it's realisitic to have them cost between $200 and $3000, it hurts the game because the only time anyone buys them is for vanity because they do nothing. Make them cost between $200 and the guitar string of doom ($5M, I think- and get rid of it since the guitar would function the same way). While your musical ability is capped at 100, have these not count towards it so that if you eventually get enough cash to outfit all of your band members with their Guitar of Doom and Drums of Doom, etc, they'd get a +50 bonus or something so they actually have 150. It would give people a reason to shoot for more cash other than just, well, sleeping on piles of money.
4. This new "if you don't book enough venues you can book those days elsewhere" smacks of the hattie qualification bug-- err "feature". For those of you not familiar, it's better to finish in 5th or 6th place rather than 2nd, 3rd, or 4th. Stupid, huh? Well, this is along those same lines. I'm going to be trying to find that break even point in popularity so that I get large venues and *still* get the extra days back. For instance, last month, I toured 14 days and got turned down in 3 places but didn't get those days back. This month, I did a 28 day and got rejected in 7 so I got some of those days back. I said "Great!" so rather than 3 days of rest, I have 7 this month. After all, what do I care if I get rejected in the 5K arenas when I'm playing 20K places to start the month.

Well, there's the economy rant. Oh, and I spent about 30 minutes collecting images and making 60x60 icons for Fascist Eagle's band members. And then realized the blank images are bigger than 60x60 so they look stretched. D'oh. Well, they're there anyways- decided to go with anime characters, 1 each from 6 different shows that kindof match the personalities I gave my band members.

SI

tanglewood · 03-05-2005, 01:30 PM

I've started up a second band to completley counter Element in as many ways as possible (well, apart from the successful part anyway). The Pegs draw influences from the late 60's avant-garde scene and the late 70's post-punk movement, meshing in a sonic exploratinon like no other.

Bonus points to anyone who can guess who the members of the band are (blatantly, picture and all) modelled on. Shouldn't be too difficult...

bbor · 03-05-2005, 02:18 PM

How do you increase happyness?

My band is pissed

JeeberD · 03-05-2005, 02:21 PM

Rest rest and more rest...

Swaggs · 03-05-2005, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Franklinnoble

The Elitists label made me an offer they couldn't afford...

Try again. I transferred some more cash to the account.

TazFTW · 03-05-2005, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bbor

How do you increase happyness?

My band is pissed

Have them play music maven and make sure your practices aren't too boot camp.

sterlingice · 03-05-2005, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW

Have them play music maven and make sure your practices aren't too boot camp.

Or stop practicing for a couple of months and tour instead. Practicing is what really makes them pissed and practicing at 10 is a surefire way to get them really ticked at you.

SI

JeeberD · 03-06-2005, 01:12 AM

Death to bbor looks like it's finally starting to gain some steam. We have nearly three grand in cash and our first two songs are finally getting decent. It might be time to put out a single soon!

bbor · 03-06-2005, 01:52 AM

LOL@death to bbor

Franklinnoble · 03-06-2005, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

Death to bbor looks like it's finally starting to gain some steam.

Any pile of crap can gain steam...

cthomer5000 · 03-06-2005, 02:44 AM

Well, my girls felt the 30 days of '10' level practice was a bit too much.... I just took them on a shopping spree (new instruments all around!) and decided to give them 16 days of rest next month.

sterlingice · 03-06-2005, 02:55 AM

I've chipped $100K into the FOFC Live! fund to give out for contracts next time around. I'd love to chip some of that particularly to some of you guys who have released 2 singles and still don't have a bunch of cash (Double D and the Usuals, S.T.A.T., The Klein Bottles) but I can't offer any new contracts. I'm guessing you guys can't get out until you're done with your obligations (which for a couple of you is just an album).

SI

Franklinnoble · 03-06-2005, 05:04 PM

My latest band, Finger Bang, now has photos.

ShovelMonkey · 03-06-2005, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ShovelMonkey

Our new single, "Peter Jennings," is due out this month...

I only had the funds to produce 10,000 copies which all sold this month. Got a fat new contract offer from Elitist Records!

Swaggs · 03-06-2005, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ShovelMonkey

I only had the funds to produce 10,000 copies which all sold this month. Got a fat new contract offer from Elitist Records!

You earned it!

vex · 03-06-2005, 11:29 PM

Looks like some of our labels will be shooting up the charts:

17. Label ratings were being calculated incorrectly FIXED 3/6/2005

GoldenEagle · 03-06-2005, 11:44 PM

I do not have the money to relase a single. My label needs to pump me some more funds!

vex · 03-06-2005, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

I do not have the money to relase a single. My label needs to pump me some more funds!

I can next time

vex · 03-07-2005, 12:18 AM

SI, nice release to top the charts!

Coffee Warlord · 03-07-2005, 12:37 AM

Breeding Pine Trees is producing their first single, entitle Wide World of Trout.

The main song on it, Meditations on Trout and Rectum, is expected to be an immediate hit. The bonus track of Ballad of Trout is nothing more than filler.

We'll see if this actually sells.

Swaggs · 03-07-2005, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Breeding Pine Trees is producing their first single, entitle Wide World of Trout.

The main song on it, Meditations on Trout and Rectum, is expected to be an immediate hit. The bonus track of Ballad of Trout is nothing more than filler.

We'll see if this actually sells.

I $mell Lot$ of Dollar$!!!

Coffee Warlord · 03-07-2005, 01:14 AM

Breeding Pine Trees will be a cash MACHINE!

sterlingice · 03-07-2005, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by vexroid

SI, nice release to top the charts!

Thanks. I was guessing a 40K release but this exceeded the band's wildest expectations

SI

Tigercat · 03-07-2005, 04:47 AM

They aren't doing a very good job of filtering out people with more than 2 bands, one guy has around 10 bands in Indie Rock alone.

People need to release more singles and albums in FOFC Live! we should have an unbelievable amount of releases by now.

ShovelMonkey · 03-07-2005, 09:03 AM

Woohoo! Shovel Monkey is listed in the label description for Elitist Records!

JeeberD · 03-07-2005, 09:15 AM

Death to bbor is recording their first single. The A track is "Russian Bride" and the B track is "bbor is sad because there is no hockey."

Very few copies are expected to sell...

Celeval · 03-07-2005, 09:18 AM

Pocket Hooligans, a Celtic-punk group, is beginning to gather a following now that they've written a couple of songs. They may be looking for a label soon.

bbor · 03-07-2005, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

Death to bbor is recording their first single. The A track is "Russian Bride" and the B track is "bbor is sad because there is no hockey."

Very few copies are expected to sell...

You are some sorta bastard,you know that?

JeeberD · 03-07-2005, 10:33 AM

I cant help that I love you, bbor...

McSweeny · 03-07-2005, 01:26 PM

well my punk band just sold out it's initial single pressing of 4000 copies. Pressing another 10,000 this month. We don't need no stinkin' label

Franklinnoble · 03-07-2005, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by McSweeny

well my punk band just sold out it's initial single pressing of 4000 copies. Pressing another 10,000 this month. We don't need no stinkin' label

If you can sell albums without a label, why have a label?

03-04-2005, 07:10 AM	#302
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	I agree that this is a very nice and needed change, although my heavy metal band, Battery Acid, is now really going to struggle. I was sort of "role-playing" with this band. They're SERIOUSLY into their music and their genre. On tour, they always look for clubs in their genre, and the "cooler" clubs second. They won't put a song in their set list until it is perfect, nor will they release any record or CD until it is perfected. They practice in their own garage, and will do so until they make some money touring. I wonder if Battery Acid is gonna make it. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

03-05-2005, 11:27 AM	#308
ShovelMonkey H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central PA	No comments today? __________________ It only hurts for a little while...

03-05-2005, 11:32 AM	#310
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	I'm kinda upset that living expenses went from $100 to $250. It's getting more and more difdicult for my fledgling band to make any money... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

03-05-2005, 12:02 PM	#312
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	JeeberD just wait until you jump to 1000 a day as professional muscians __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!

03-05-2005, 12:20 PM	#316
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Yikes... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

03-04-2005, 01:37 PM	#306
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	woohoo My Math Rock band Calculii got interest from a label!

03-05-2005, 12:12 PM	#313
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	You'll be happy to know that Breeding Pine Trees has written their first original song, A Ballad of Trout, which will be played live in the coming month. Not doing as well is Office Pimps, who are not making nearly as much money, but now have 2 songs to their name, Shock and Awe and Hack and Slash.

03-05-2005, 12:18 PM	#315
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	My two bands are at #1 and #2 on the singles charts this week

03-05-2005, 01:12 PM	#319
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	The Elitists label made me an offer they couldn't afford...

03-05-2005, 01:30 PM	#321
tanglewood College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2004	I've started up a second band to completley counter Element in as many ways as possible (well, apart from the successful part anyway). The Pegs draw influences from the late 60's avant-garde scene and the late 70's post-punk movement, meshing in a sonic exploratinon like no other. Bonus points to anyone who can guess who the members of the band are (blatantly, picture and all) modelled on. Shouldn't be too difficult...

03-05-2005, 02:18 PM	#322
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	How do you increase happyness? My band is pissed __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

03-05-2005, 02:21 PM	#323
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Rest rest and more rest... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

03-06-2005, 01:12 AM	#327
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Death to bbor looks like it's finally starting to gain some steam. We have nearly three grand in cash and our first two songs are finally getting decent. It might be time to put out a single soon! __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

03-06-2005, 01:52 AM	#328
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	LOL@death to bbor __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

03-06-2005, 02:55 AM	#331
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	I've chipped $100K into the FOFC Live! fund to give out for contracts next time around. I'd love to chip some of that particularly to some of you guys who have released 2 singles and still don't have a bunch of cash (Double D and the Usuals, S.T.A.T., The Klein Bottles) but I can't offer any new contracts. I'm guessing you guys can't get out until you're done with your obligations (which for a couple of you is just an album). SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

03-06-2005, 05:04 PM	#332
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	My latest band, Finger Bang, now has photos.

03-06-2005, 11:29 PM	#335
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	Looks like some of our labels will be shooting up the charts: 17. Label ratings were being calculated incorrectly FIXED 3/6/2005

03-06-2005, 11:44 PM	#336
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	I do not have the money to relase a single. My label needs to pump me some more funds! __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

03-07-2005, 12:18 AM	#338
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	SI, nice release to top the charts!

03-07-2005, 12:37 AM	#339
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Breeding Pine Trees is producing their first single, entitle Wide World of Trout. The main song on it, Meditations on Trout and Rectum, is expected to be an immediate hit. The bonus track of Ballad of Trout is nothing more than filler. We'll see if this actually sells.

03-07-2005, 01:14 AM	#341
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Breeding Pine Trees will be a cash MACHINE!

03-07-2005, 04:47 AM	#343
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	They aren't doing a very good job of filtering out people with more than 2 bands, one guy has around 10 bands in Indie Rock alone. People need to release more singles and albums in FOFC Live! we should have an unbelievable amount of releases by now.

03-07-2005, 09:03 AM	#344
ShovelMonkey H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central PA	Woohoo! Shovel Monkey is listed in the label description for Elitist Records! __________________ It only hurts for a little while...

03-07-2005, 09:15 AM	#345
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Death to bbor is recording their first single. The A track is "Russian Bride" and the B track is "bbor is sad because there is no hockey." Very few copies are expected to sell... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

03-07-2005, 09:18 AM	#346
Celeval Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cary, NC, USA	Pocket Hooligans, a Celtic-punk group, is beginning to gather a following now that they've written a couple of songs. They may be looking for a label soon.

03-07-2005, 10:33 AM	#348
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	I cant help that I love you, bbor... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

03-07-2005, 01:26 PM	#349
McSweeny College Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somerville, MA	well my punk band just sold out it's initial single pressing of 4000 copies. Pressing another 10,000 this month. We don't need no stinkin' label

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