Crazy wierd thing with rookie contracts...anyone ever seen this? - Page 7

sovereignstar · 10-13-2005, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

So what do you guys think of opening the game as another team, just to find out what a player's contract demands are, if you're interested in trading for him? Do most of you guys find that to be cheating?

Come on.

VPI97 · 10-13-2005, 12:20 PM

dola -

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Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

and your commish, as well as your league presidents, were well aware of me.

Yep. It was my call, and my call alone that let you stay over there as coolroy.

Buzzbee · 10-13-2005, 12:25 PM

Ummm...VPI, shouldn't you be over at IHOF processing the mid-week files?

Chubby · 10-13-2005, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

So what do you guys think of opening the game as another team, just to find out what a player's contract demands are, if you're interested in trading for him? Do most of you guys find that to be cheating?

yup

Anthony · 10-13-2005, 12:37 PM

i just want to say, as i eat my lunch, that i feel very foolish for allowing myself to fall for the bait and got myself worked up in a tizzy. i don't apologize for anything i wrote, because what i wrote is a good snapshot as to how i felt in that point in time, i don't want to undermine the feelings of Hell Atlantic from 2 hours ago. but, yeah, i'm trying to show a different side to my personality and not be a cartoon or cariacature of the Hell Atlantic everyone thinks i am, and responding like that doesn't help things. i'm normally good at knowing when i'm being provoked.

what i wanted to do was nip things in the bud. if you let (blatantly false and malicious) accusations like that go uncontested, pretty soon myth becomes fact. then months from now when i find my trustworthiness being questioned, someone would eventually say "well, there *were* some things called into question about his days in IHOF...". i wanted to eradicate some silly doubts cast by some unscrupulous members here before they got seeped into people's minds. but i'm disappointed in allowing myself to get worked up - these are merely words, after all, and it's over an online MP league.

so, again, i don't apologize for what i said, but i feel bad if anyone got offended and i feel foolish for allowing myself to get worked up. carry on.

PackerFanatic · 10-13-2005, 12:45 PM

We still love you, HA.

Raiders Army · 10-13-2005, 12:53 PM

Someone's stealing your thunder, HA. heh heh.

sovereignstar · 10-13-2005, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

We still love you, HA.

Speak for yourself.

Blackadar · 10-13-2005, 12:55 PM

The funny thing is that I never accused you of cheating. I said you did your best to bend the rules. I never said you broke them. Go back and re-read my exact quote. It's phrased very carefully for a reason.

Have a nice day.

Samdari · 10-13-2005, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackadar

The funny thing is that I never accused you of cheating. I said you did your best to bend the rules.

But you never give any inkling of even what that was.

I have never had any problems of even bad impressions of you, while I have had plenty of HA, but I've got to say - you are coming off like more of a prick than HA here.

Pause to let that sink in.

I'm in IHOF, and I was never aware of any implication of him treading near the boundary of fair play. Good taste and decorum, perhaps, but not fair play.

I think you are obligated to provide something to back up your accusations here (or not, I suppose, and tacitly admit you were merely trolling).

yabanci · 10-13-2005, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

So what do you guys think of opening the game as another team, just to find out what a player's contract demands are, if you're interested in trading for him? Do most of you guys find that to be cheating?

Aboslutely, yes. Logging on as the commish or another team for any reason whatsoever should be prohibited in my view.

Doing what you suggest is definitely cheating. You gain an advantage by seeing what the player looks like up close (on the team) and through the eyes of another team's scout.

Raiders Army · 10-13-2005, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar

Come on.

Feel the noize...Girls rock the boyz

Chubby · 10-13-2005, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Samdari

But you never give any inkling of even what that was.

I have never had any problems of even bad impressions of you, while I have had plenty of HA, but I've got to say - you are coming off like more of a prick than HA here.

Pause to let that sink in.

I'm in IHOF, and I was never aware of any implication of him treading near the boundary of fair play. Good taste and decorum, perhaps, but not fair play.

I think you are obligated to provide something to back up your accusations here (or not, I suppose, and tacitly admit you were merely trolling).

he'll never admit that. he'll simply go with his "i never ACTUALLY said that and you can't prove that was the implication so I'm right" defense.

gottimd · 10-13-2005, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by yabanci

Aboslutely, yes. Logging on as the commish or another team for any reason whatsoever should be prohibited in my view.

Doing what you suggest is definitely cheating. You gain an advantage by seeing what the player looks like up close (on the team) and through the eyes of another team's scout.

Exactly, that is why as a Participant, you press the "PARTICIPANT" button, and as a Commissioner, you press the "COMMISSIONER" button. Its like an elevator, 2 options, up or down. If you want to go up, press up, not down.

John Galt · 10-13-2005, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Chubby

he'll never admit that. he'll simply go with his "i never ACTUALLY said that and you can't prove that was the implication so I'm right" defense.

I expect a similar defense in the "homophobic troll" thread. It does seem to be Blackie's M.O.

QuikSand · 10-13-2005, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gottimd

Its like an elevator, 2 options, up or down. If you want to go up, press up, not down.

Can you go over that again? There seems to be a lot of gray area there.

Samdari · 10-13-2005, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chubby

he'll never admit that. he'll simply go with his "i never ACTUALLY said that and you can't prove that was the implication so I'm right" defense.

Well, I bet I am not alone in thinking that a lack of response is an admission that the accusation was baseless, and it was a troll post.

gottimd · 10-13-2005, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by QuikSand

Can you go over that again? There seems to be a lot of gray area there.

Apparently that needs to be added into the instructions, so that people don't go all "willy nilly" on which option to pick when in an MP league.

Bee · 10-13-2005, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by QuikSand

Can you go over that again? There seems to be a lot of gray area there.

Not to mention the alarm button and all those others with the numbers on them....

Raiders Army · 10-13-2005, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by QuikSand

Can you go over that again? There seems to be a lot of gray area there.

Agreed. There is an Emergency Stop button in most elevators as well.

Bee · 10-13-2005, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Agreed. There is an Emergency Stop button in most elevators as well.

There's also the buttons for opening and closing the door...you know, it's amazing that the average person can operate an elevator considering how stupid most people are...

gottimd · 10-13-2005, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bee

There's also the buttons for opening and closing the door...you know, it's amazing that the average person can operate an elevator considering how stupid most people are...

I just run full speed at the metallic doors. I end up knocking myself out, and I awaken hours later already late for where I was going so I go back home. Damn elevators, I never get them to work.

Buzzbee · 10-13-2005, 01:38 PM

Uh oh. Uncle Ryan is home. Looks like we're getting sent to our rooms. Just wait'll Daddy gets home. We're gonna be in truuuuble!!!

gottimd · 10-13-2005, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzzbee

Uh oh. Uncle Ryan is home. Looks like we're getting sent to our rooms. Just wait'll Daddy gets home. We're gonna be in truuuuble!!!

Why? This thread isn't as bad as some of the other ones on here.

Bee · 10-13-2005, 01:43 PM

Hopefully the elevator discussion has saved the thread...

Blackadar · 10-13-2005, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by gottimd

Why? This thread isn't as bad as some of the other ones on here.

Therin lies the problem.

Chubby · 10-13-2005, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackadar

Therin lies the problem.

no, the problem is you posting.

Blackadar · 10-13-2005, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chubby

no, the problem is you posting.

Put me on ignore. Problem solved!

gottimd · 10-13-2005, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bee

Hopefully the elevator discussion has saved the thread...

Oh we are not done with that.

Chubby · 10-13-2005, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackadar

Put me on ignore. Problem solved!

i have a feeling i won't have to for a while...

gottimd · 10-13-2005, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackadar

Therin lies the problem.

I don't understand your post? This thread was discussing a potential problem and yes got a little heated, but all I was saying was that this thread isn't as bad as the others.

Blackadar · 10-13-2005, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chubby

i have a feeling i won't have to for a while...

Find a violation of the Code of Conduct and I'm more than happy to go in the box.

However, given that Skydog has already given the order to go back to our respective corners, you'd probably be better served by not trying to bait me.

Chubby · 10-13-2005, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackadar

Find a violation of the Code of Conduct and I'm more than happy to go in the box.

However, given that Skydog has already given the order to go back to our respective corners, you'd probably be better served by not trying to bait me.

are you just going to repeat the same thing in each thread?

you are the one that caused this whole situation by being a bigot and a troll. you should be boxed immediately as far as I'm concerned to stop this whole nonsense.

I see your whole mission now is to simply try and divert attention from yourself.

gottimd · 10-13-2005, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackadar

....I'm more than happy to go in the box.

Anthony · 10-13-2005, 02:04 PM

here's a pic of a guy i saw on the train a couple months ago. he looks like he's waiting to die so he could be done with his horrible life.

Blackadar · 10-13-2005, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gottimd

But I don't wear a tie...

Buzzbee · 10-13-2005, 02:33 PM

Back to the original issue, VPI wrote some code to identify and deal with this cheat. I think it is classic!!!

Code:

If IsTrue(rookie signing) then
	If (transaction_text = "signed his rookie contract") then
		Result = cool_beans
	elseIf (transaction_text = "signed a renegotiated contract")
		Owner_status = "BANNED"
	else
		Unexpected_result = WTF
	EndIf
EndIf

gottimd · 10-13-2005, 02:35 PM

Everyone is in the box from this thread, or at least the majority of the recent posters.

WSUCougar · 10-13-2005, 02:37 PM

I feel like I'm walking in the New Orleans of threads, post-flood. I drove right in! But I'm not looting!

gottimd · 10-13-2005, 02:39 PM

Bottom line is that the "Trust Tree" has definitely been shaken up.

Nwobhm · 10-13-2005, 02:57 PM

Looks like the cheater is getting some sympathy over in the DFL:

http://www.dfl.cc/forum/viewtopic.php?t=444

PackerFanatic · 10-13-2005, 02:59 PM

Thats why I quit, heh...

Eaglesfan27 · 10-13-2005, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Nwobhm

Looks like the cheater is getting some sympathy over in the DFL:

http://www.dfl.cc/forum/viewtopic.php?t=444

Unbelievable.

sovereignstar · 10-13-2005, 03:04 PM

http://primetime-football-league.com...opic.php?t=854

PackerFanatic · 10-13-2005, 03:06 PM

Yeah, owner of PFL talked to me and wanted to know what I was going to do, wanted to make sure everyone was on ths ame page, heh.

gottimd · 10-13-2005, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar

http://primetime-football-league.com...opic.php?t=854

Here is a blackball, enjoy!

sovereignstar · 10-13-2005, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by gottimd

Here is a blackball, enjoy!

Does this have something to do with my crouch? I don't get it.

gottimd · 10-13-2005, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar

Does this have something to do with my crouch? I don't get it.

Stick to arranging your cast iron skillets.

Ksyrup · 10-13-2005, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Nwobhm

Looks like the cheater is getting some sympathy over in the DFL:

http://www.dfl.cc/forum/viewtopic.php?t=444

Since we've just past the 10th anniversary of the OJ Simpson verdict, reading that thread immediately brought to mind the intelligent juror (Brenda Moron) who commented about the evidence of domestic abuse presented at the trial: "Domestic abuse, to me that was a waste of time. This was a murder trial, not domestic abuse. If you want to get tried for domestic abuse, go in another court room and get tried for that."

QuikSand · 10-13-2005, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Nwobhm

Looks like the cheater is getting some sympathy over in the DFL

I get confused - is this a league that's playing for some actual money?

I can't imagine letting this guy stay in a league like that.

10-13-2005, 12:25 PM	#303
Buzzbee College Starter Join Date: Jun 2002	Ummm...VPI, shouldn't you be over at IHOF processing the mid-week files? __________________ Ability is what you're capable of doing. Motivation determines what you do. Attitude determines how well you do it. - Lou Holtz

10-13-2005, 12:45 PM	#306
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	We still love you, HA. __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

10-13-2005, 01:38 PM	#323
Buzzbee College Starter Join Date: Jun 2002	Uh oh. Uncle Ryan is home. Looks like we're getting sent to our rooms. Just wait'll Daddy gets home. We're gonna be in truuuuble!!! __________________ Ability is what you're capable of doing. Motivation determines what you do. Attitude determines how well you do it. - Lou Holtz

10-13-2005, 02:33 PM	#337
Buzzbee College Starter Join Date: Jun 2002	Back to the original issue, VPI wrote some code to identify and deal with this cheat. I think it is classic!!! Code: If IsTrue(rookie signing) then If (transaction_text = "signed his rookie contract") then Result = cool_beans elseIf (transaction_text = "signed a renegotiated contract") Owner_status = "BANNED" else Unexpected_result = WTF EndIf EndIf __________________ Ability is what you're capable of doing. Motivation determines what you do. Attitude determines how well you do it. - Lou Holtz

10-13-2005, 02:35 PM	#338
gottimd Dearly Missed (9/25/77-12/23/08) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: DC Suburbs	Everyone is in the box from this thread, or at least the majority of the recent posters. __________________ NAFL New Orleans Saints GM/Co-Commish MP Career Record: 114-85 NAFL Super Bowl XI Champs In memory of Gavin Anthony: 7/22/08-7/26/08

10-13-2005, 12:37 PM	#305
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	i just want to say, as i eat my lunch, that i feel very foolish for allowing myself to fall for the bait and got myself worked up in a tizzy. i don't apologize for anything i wrote, because what i wrote is a good snapshot as to how i felt in that point in time, i don't want to undermine the feelings of Hell Atlantic from 2 hours ago. but, yeah, i'm trying to show a different side to my personality and not be a cartoon or cariacature of the Hell Atlantic everyone thinks i am, and responding like that doesn't help things. i'm normally good at knowing when i'm being provoked. what i wanted to do was nip things in the bud. if you let (blatantly false and malicious) accusations like that go uncontested, pretty soon myth becomes fact. then months from now when i find my trustworthiness being questioned, someone would eventually say "well, there were some things called into question about his days in IHOF...". i wanted to eradicate some silly doubts cast by some unscrupulous members here before they got seeped into people's minds. but i'm disappointed in allowing myself to get worked up - these are merely words, after all, and it's over an online MP league. so, again, i don't apologize for what i said, but i feel bad if anyone got offended and i feel foolish for allowing myself to get worked up. carry on.

10-13-2005, 12:53 PM	#307
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Someone's stealing your thunder, HA. heh heh.

10-13-2005, 12:55 PM	#309
Blackadar Retired Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fantasyland	The funny thing is that I never accused you of cheating. I said you did your best to bend the rules. I never said you broke them. Go back and re-read my exact quote. It's phrased very carefully for a reason. Have a nice day.

10-13-2005, 01:43 PM	#325
Bee Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fairfax, VA	Hopefully the elevator discussion has saved the thread...

10-13-2005, 02:04 PM	#335
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	here's a pic of a guy i saw on the train a couple months ago. he looks like he's waiting to die so he could be done with his horrible life.

10-13-2005, 02:37 PM	#339
WSUCougar Rider Of Rohan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep	I feel like I'm walking in the New Orleans of threads, post-flood. I drove right in! But I'm not looting! __________________ It's not the years...it's the mileage.

10-13-2005, 02:39 PM	#340
gottimd Dearly Missed (9/25/77-12/23/08) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: DC Suburbs	Bottom line is that the "Trust Tree" has definitely been shaken up. __________________ NAFL New Orleans Saints GM/Co-Commish MP Career Record: 114-85 NAFL Super Bowl XI Champs In memory of Gavin Anthony: 7/22/08-7/26/08 Last edited by gottimd : 10-13-2005 at 02:50 PM.

10-13-2005, 02:57 PM	#341
Nwobhm Mascot Join Date: Sep 2002	Looks like the cheater is getting some sympathy over in the DFL: http://www.dfl.cc/forum/viewtopic.php?t=444 Last edited by Nwobhm : 10-13-2005 at 02:58 PM.

10-13-2005, 02:59 PM	#342
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	Thats why I quit, heh... __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

10-13-2005, 03:04 PM	#344
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	http://primetime-football-league.com...opic.php?t=854

10-13-2005, 03:06 PM	#345
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	Yeah, owner of PFL talked to me and wanted to know what I was going to do, wanted to make sure everyone was on ths ame page, heh. __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

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