NFL WEEK 4! - Page 7

jbergey22 · 10-05-2009, 08:37 PM

Favre looks much better than he has all year.

jbergey22 · 10-05-2009, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Arles

That was just a ploy by McCarthy to delay after the fumble. The place was going nuts. Not great to lose the challenge, but the TO wasn't a bad move.

You think so? I guess it could make sense. Dont see much of that in football though.

Izulde · 10-05-2009, 08:46 PM

It's crazy how good Favre's looked this game.

BrianD · 10-05-2009, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Interesting Game. GB challenges on an obvious fumble and Minny doesnt challenge on an obvious drop!

Not an obvious drop. Not a drop at all. I wish that challenge had been in time since the call would have been confirmed.

jbergey22 · 10-05-2009, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianD

Not an obvious drop. Not a drop at all. I wish that challenge had been in time since the call would have been confirmed.

The ball obviously hit the turf and was braced by the turf. He needed to have control before it hits the turf to not be changed.

Lathum · 10-05-2009, 08:51 PM

BrianD · 10-05-2009, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

The ball obviously hit the turf and was braced by the turf. He needed to have control before it hits the turf to not be changed.

Wrong...pretty much completely.

TroyF · 10-05-2009, 08:52 PM

I thought throwing the ball in the stands was an auto 15. Was that changed?

TroyF · 10-05-2009, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianD

Wrong...pretty much completely.

The second replay I saw confirmed what he was saying. The turf held up the ball. It looked pretty obvious to me.

larrymcg421 · 10-05-2009, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

The ball obviously hit the turf and was braced by the turf. He needed to have control before it hits the turf to not be changed.

The ball was in his hands the whole time and wasn't moving. I've never seen them overturn a call in a case like that.

BrianD · 10-05-2009, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

The second replay I saw confirmed what he was saying. The turf held up the ball. It looked pretty obvious to me.

Odd, that isn't what I saw at all. I'd compromise and say inconclusive, but I actually thought the replay confirmed the call. A hand on each point of the ball, and the ball didn't even shift in his hands when everything hit the ground. Looked like control to me....not that the call will change the game at all.

TroyF · 10-05-2009, 08:59 PM

They said it on the telecast, but Favre is ripping it up on 3rd down in the second quarter:

4-4, 70 yards, 1 TD, 4 first downs.

TroyF · 10-05-2009, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianD

Odd, that isn't what I saw at all. I'd compromise and say inconclusive, but I actually thought the replay confirmed the call. A hand on each point of the ball, and the ball didn't even shift in his hands when everything hit the ground. Looked like control to me....not that the call will change the game at all.

We'll never know for sure, they won't show it. End of the day, it didn't matter anyway.

This was a huge Vikings drive assuming they can finish it off.

Looked like a holding to me.

TroyF · 10-05-2009, 09:02 PM

Bad call. Really, really bad call.

If it weren't for the offside, I'd have felt horribly for the Pack there.

mauchow · 10-05-2009, 09:02 PM

Okay, it doesn't matter, there was an offsides penalty called. It wasn't Pass Interference, but man...whew!

BrianD · 10-05-2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

Bad call. Really, really bad call.

If it weren't for the offside, I'd have felt horribly for the Pack there.

I swear I'm not trying to be difficult...but I thought the PI call was decent.

At least at full speed I agreed with it.

Izulde · 10-05-2009, 09:03 PM

That DPI was a bad call fo' sho.

Arles · 10-05-2009, 09:04 PM

7 penalties for GB to 0 for the Vikes. I wish the Pack could get that kind of home cooking from the refs.

Arles · 10-05-2009, 09:04 PM

Make that 8-0

QuikSand · 10-05-2009, 09:04 PM

I'm glad I decided to actually sit down and watch this game. Fun one, and it has been great to see Favre actually pepper in a few throws looking like his old self. I wouldn't say it's case closed that he's going to be great for the Vikes, or that he will lead them to the promised land, but with him playing like this, that's a really dangerous team.

Radii · 10-05-2009, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

Actually I take it back, last year I saw Vernon Davis w/ that bonehead move that made Singletary send him to the Locker Room. Otherwise I can't think of another time where it happened.

3 games a week (give or take)
17 weeks
Plus playoffs
20 years

Nah...I don't watch much...just a casual fan really. I have season tickets just for shits and giggles.

smooches

Perhaps i should rephrase,you seem sensitive:

"Are you sure you just don't have a very selective memory about taunting penalties since one very recently hurt your team?"

More later as I need to head out for a bit,but there were 15 taunting penalties called last year that i can find, 2 so far this year according to foxsports, but googling the taunting penalty turns up countless articles about the controversy over the rule over the last 15 years, going back to the throat slash gesture in the late 90s. McNabb picking up the giants phone after a run last year led him to go out of bounds on their sideline, googling various teams and taunting turn up lots of stories about fines and instances where taunting was called on every team(one of the panthers rookies picked up a taunting call in the preseason, whoops).

I was hoping I could just find a stat tracking the totals somewhere, but that seems more difficult than expected.

Anyway, taunting has been a huge issue many many different times over the last decade, I was just stunned to see you say you'd only seen it called twice, like it was some new thing that only screws over your team.

TroyF · 10-05-2009, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianD

I swear I'm not trying to be difficult...but I thought the PI call was decent.

At least at full speed I agreed with it.

Watching the play at full speed, I thought it was obvious PI or hold. The slo mo replay just didn't show it. A small hip hook, but nothing bad.

As an aside, I think both of these coaches suck. What is McCarthy thinking here. Less than 30 seconds, a horrific offensive line and you are calling pass plays? Good lord.

TroyF · 10-05-2009, 09:09 PM

That last play kills me. I'm going against the Rogers/Jennings combo in fantasy. Nothing like a cheap ass play to potentially cost me the win. Ugh.

At the very least, give me a hail mary INT to cost him some points.

sovereignstar · 10-05-2009, 09:09 PM

And Aaron Rodgers took a shot from Allen!

Arles · 10-05-2009, 09:11 PM

Allen has been a beast (nothing wrong with that last hit) and Favre looks fantastic. GB should feel fairly lucky to be down just 7.

TroyF · 10-05-2009, 09:12 PM

What the hell are the Packers complaining about there? You wanted to set up the hail mary. With that offensive line, you have to figure he's going to get hit. The hit was clean. Deal with it.

Enjoyable first half. Packers have a solid game plan. I don't know how you can cover up an offensive line that is this bad though. I don't see how Rodgers gets through the year healthy with the group blocking for him.

BrianD · 10-05-2009, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

The hit was clean. Deal with it.

I had to agree with you at least once tonight.

TroyF · 10-05-2009, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Arles

Allen has been a beast (nothing wrong with that last hit) and Favre looks fantastic. GB should feel fairly lucky to be down just 7.

Defensive TD's are the great equalizer. No time off the clock, no yards gained. . . but 7 points on the scoreboard. TO are just killer in this league.

TroyF · 10-05-2009, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianD

I had to agree with you at least once tonight.

No worries.

most people don't agree with me. I picked the Broncos to go 5-11 at best this year. . . what the hell do I know?

Arles · 10-05-2009, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

What the hell are the Packers complaining about there? You wanted to set up the hail mary. With that offensive line, you have to figure he's going to get hit. The hit was clean. Deal with it.

Just harmless jawing. Anytime you hit the opposing team's QB right by their sideline, you're going to get some barbs thrown your way

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Enjoyable first half. Packers have a solid game plan. I don't know how you can cover up an offensive line that is this bad though. I don't see how Rodgers gets through the year healthy with the group blocking for him.

This is my main complaint with Thompson. We never have any veteran backups at OL or DB. So, when the inevitable injury bug hits, we're starting a 5th round pick or undrafted greenhorn. We always end with 10-15 million under the cap, how about throwing 4-5 mil at a backup tackle (or even a guy that can push our mediocre starters)?

The problem is I think Thompson views every draft pick he makes as the next coming of Anthony Munoz and if GB doesn't make the playoffs, he should be on the hot-seat. This will be the third straight season with no backups having any experience at OL or DB.

BrianD · 10-05-2009, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

No worries.

most people don't agree with me. I picked the Broncos to go 5-11 at best this year. . . what the hell do I know?

You still have a chance to be right there.

BrianD · 10-05-2009, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Arles

Just harmless jawing. Anytime you hit the opposing team's QB right by their sideline, you're going to get some barbs thrown your way

This is my main complaint with Thompson. We never have any veteran backups at OL or DB. So, when the inevitable injury bug hits, we're starting a 5th round pick or undrafted greenhorn. We always end with 10-15 million under the cap, how about throwing 4-5 mil at a backup tackle (or even a guy that can push our mediocre starters)?

The problem is I think Thompson views every draft pick he makes as the next coming of Anthony Munoz and if GB doesn't make the playoffs, he should be on the hot-seat. This will be the third straight season with no backups having any experience at OL or DB.

Arles, are your originally from Wisconsin, or just a long distance Packer fan? I don't often hear Arizona guys refer to the Packers as "we".

Arles · 10-05-2009, 09:24 PM

My dad was from near Wisconsin and I'm a longtime GB fan. I actually grew up in southern IL though.

TroyF · 10-05-2009, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianD

You still have a chance to be right there.

2 games with the Chiefs. 1 left with the Raiders.

No. No way the Broncos lose 10 of the next 12 games. 8 of the next 12? I could see that. 9 of the next 12? If disaster strikes. 10 of the next 12? No way.

TroyF · 10-05-2009, 09:26 PM

Confused at that one. 2nd and 9 vs. 1st and 15. You think your defense is so bad they'll give up at least 6 yards on first down?

BrianD · 10-05-2009, 09:27 PM

The Vikings are getting away with a lot of holds.

jbergey22 · 10-05-2009, 09:27 PM

Packers have done a nice job on Peterson. Somewhat surprising considering their rushing stats coming in.

mauchow · 10-05-2009, 09:29 PM

Does Favre have the baggiest jersey in the NFL?

jbergey22 · 10-05-2009, 09:29 PM

LOL @ Green Bay Pass rush

mauchow · 10-05-2009, 09:30 PM

And BOOM that pass and catch locks up my win for fantasy football. 'Bout time Berrian has a good game.

jbergey22 · 10-05-2009, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

And BOOM that pass and catch locks up my win for fantasy football. 'Bout time Berrian has a good game.

Congrats!

sovereignstar · 10-05-2009, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Packers have done a nice job on Peterson. Somewhat surprising considering their rushing stats coming in.

All it takes is one big one.

Izulde · 10-05-2009, 09:32 PM

Another one? Damn, just damn.

TroyF · 10-05-2009, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Packers have done a nice job on Peterson. Somewhat surprising considering their rushing stats coming in.

Vikings have run on first down 12 of 17 times. (was 12-16 as I was typing this, then boom) Peterson the ball carrier on all of those plays. Throw in a couple of third and shorts and he's been almost invisible on anything other than a sure running down.

I was going to say the Vikings were clearly setting up the deep ball to Harvin. It ended up being Barrion and worked perfectly. Impressive play calling.

Edit: Those stats did not include the hurry up drive at the end of the first half.

Arles · 10-05-2009, 09:33 PM

I think this bye week is coming at a good time for Green Bay. They look out of sync on both lines and a mess with penalties/blown assignments. Not sure if they can make anything of this season, but a lot of things need to be worked on for them to have a chance.

mauchow · 10-05-2009, 09:36 PM

These penalties are getting out of control.

TroyF · 10-05-2009, 09:36 PM

I'll say it again. . . the LT of the Packers is singlehandedly going to get Aaron Rodgers killed. He's just horrible.

TroyF · 10-05-2009, 09:37 PM

nice hometown scoring there. No way in hell that should have been called a sack.

Cringer · 10-05-2009, 09:39 PM

green bay continues to be a mistake prone team, what I have seen so far tonight is disappointing.

mauchow · 10-05-2009, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

nice hometown scoring there. No way in hell that should have been called a sack.

What else was it? It was a quick slant call that failed big time..

10-05-2009, 08:46 PM	#303
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	It's crazy how good Favre's looked this game. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

10-05-2009, 08:51 PM	#306
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	wow

10-05-2009, 09:02 PM	#315
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Okay, it doesn't matter, there was an offsides penalty called. It wasn't Pass Interference, but man...whew! Last edited by mauchow : 10-05-2009 at 09:03 PM.

10-05-2009, 09:03 PM	#317
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	That DPI was a bad call fo' sho. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

10-05-2009, 09:04 PM	#318
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	7 penalties for GB to 0 for the Vikes. I wish the Pack could get that kind of home cooking from the refs. __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

10-05-2009, 08:37 PM	#301
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Favre looks much better than he has all year.

10-05-2009, 08:52 PM	#308
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I thought throwing the ball in the stands was an auto 15. Was that changed?

10-05-2009, 08:59 PM	#312
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	They said it on the telecast, but Favre is ripping it up on 3rd down in the second quarter: 4-4, 70 yards, 1 TD, 4 first downs.

10-05-2009, 09:02 PM	#314
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Bad call. Really, really bad call. If it weren't for the offside, I'd have felt horribly for the Pack there.

10-05-2009, 09:04 PM	#319
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	Make that 8-0 __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

10-05-2009, 09:04 PM	#320
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	I'm glad I decided to actually sit down and watch this game. Fun one, and it has been great to see Favre actually pepper in a few throws looking like his old self. I wouldn't say it's case closed that he's going to be great for the Vikes, or that he will lead them to the promised land, but with him playing like this, that's a really dangerous team.

10-05-2009, 09:09 PM	#323
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	That last play kills me. I'm going against the Rogers/Jennings combo in fantasy. Nothing like a cheap ass play to potentially cost me the win. Ugh. At the very least, give me a hail mary INT to cost him some points.

10-05-2009, 09:09 PM	#324
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	And Aaron Rodgers took a shot from Allen!

10-05-2009, 09:11 PM	#325
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	Allen has been a beast (nothing wrong with that last hit) and Favre looks fantastic. GB should feel fairly lucky to be down just 7. __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

10-05-2009, 09:12 PM	#326
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	What the hell are the Packers complaining about there? You wanted to set up the hail mary. With that offensive line, you have to figure he's going to get hit. The hit was clean. Deal with it. Enjoyable first half. Packers have a solid game plan. I don't know how you can cover up an offensive line that is this bad though. I don't see how Rodgers gets through the year healthy with the group blocking for him.

10-05-2009, 09:24 PM	#333
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	My dad was from near Wisconsin and I'm a longtime GB fan. I actually grew up in southern IL though. __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

10-05-2009, 09:26 PM	#335
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Confused at that one. 2nd and 9 vs. 1st and 15. You think your defense is so bad they'll give up at least 6 yards on first down?

10-05-2009, 09:27 PM	#336
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	The Vikings are getting away with a lot of holds.

10-05-2009, 09:27 PM	#337
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Packers have done a nice job on Peterson. Somewhat surprising considering their rushing stats coming in.

10-05-2009, 09:29 PM	#338
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Does Favre have the baggiest jersey in the NFL?

10-05-2009, 09:29 PM	#339
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	LOL @ Green Bay Pass rush

10-05-2009, 09:30 PM	#340
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	And BOOM that pass and catch locks up my win for fantasy football. 'Bout time Berrian has a good game.

10-05-2009, 09:32 PM	#343
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	Another one? Damn, just damn. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

10-05-2009, 09:33 PM	#345
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	I think this bye week is coming at a good time for Green Bay. They look out of sync on both lines and a mess with penalties/blown assignments. Not sure if they can make anything of this season, but a lot of things need to be worked on for them to have a chance. __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

10-05-2009, 09:36 PM	#346
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	These penalties are getting out of control.

10-05-2009, 09:36 PM	#347
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I'll say it again. . . the LT of the Packers is singlehandedly going to get Aaron Rodgers killed. He's just horrible.

10-05-2009, 09:37 PM	#348
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	nice hometown scoring there. No way in hell that should have been called a sack.

10-05-2009, 09:39 PM	#349
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	green bay continues to be a mistake prone team, what I have seen so far tonight is disappointing. __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

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