2009 Fantasy Football Who Should I Start Thread?

[Izulde]

I wound up taking the deal offered to me above. Now to see if it passes the veto process.

Upgraded my backup QB situation by grabbing Bulger off the FA pile.

So, assuming trade goes through I have

RB:
Brandon Jacobs @ NO
Marshawn Lynch @ NYJ
Ray Rice @ MIN

QB/RB/WR Flex Option:
QB Jason Campbell vs. KC
QB Marc Bulger @ Jax
Whoever doesn't make the RB cut

My gut instinct says Jacobs & Lynch, with either Bulger or Campbell as the flex option. It's just whether it's Bulger or Campbell that's giving me problems.

[flere-imsaho]

Originally Posted by NoSkillz

- Massaquoi (at least he'll likely play every snap)
- Tomlinson (maybe too risky...is he healthy enough to make an impact?)
- Torry Holt (extra motivation perhaps against his former team)
- Percy Harvin (third option probably this week in the pass game behind Berrian and Rice and the Vikes will likely run the ball)
- Hakeem Nicks (seems to be getting more targets lately over Manningham)

I'd actually probably go with Holt. The Rams really suck and Holt leads the Jags in targets & receptions, so he'll at least score points. That's the conservative approach, of course.

LDT is still probably too risky, but of the rest, if you want to take a risk I'd go with Harvin.

Originally Posted by dervack

I'm leaning towards Brees, but do I start him or Eli this week?

I'd actually go with Eli, mainly because the Giants' D is very good.

Originally Posted by Izulde

RB:
Brandon Jacobs @ NO
Marshawn Lynch @ NYJ
Ray Rice @ MIN

QB/RB/WR Flex Option:
QB Jason Campbell vs. KC
QB Marc Bulger @ Jax
Whoever doesn't make the RB cut

I'd go with Jacobs & Rice. The Jets' D is good, and Rice could be the beneficiary of a lot of check-downs from Flacco.

Then I'd go with Bulger, who's probably more likely to do something than Campbell. In fact, based on his performance last week, and the pitiful Jags' pass D, he could go off (for one week only).

[RomaGoth]

Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

Then I'd go with Bulger, who's probably more likely to do something than Campbell. In fact, based on his performance last week, and the pitiful Jags' pass D, he could go off (for one week only).

Personally, I would avoid Bulger at all costs. Campbell actually has respectable numbers, not great but decent. Also, KC does not have a great defense. Bulger is washed up at this point imho.

[TLK]

WR Percy Harvin, MIN
K Lawrence Tynes, NYG
RB Maurice Jones-Drew, JAC

for

RB Brian Westbrook, PHI
K Steven Hauschka, BAL
WR Brandon Marshall, DEN

This has to be the worst trade I've seen in a while. Am I missing something here or is this just a bad deal?

[Apathetic Lurker]

Got an offer of:
Dwayne Bowe wr and Roger McIntosh LB for

Paul Posluszny and Crabtree (MINE)

2nd trade is:

M Cassell, 5th round pick for:

1st rounder and Anderson (cle qb) MINE

My receivers are..shall we say poor(d bess MIA,k burton StL,d hester CHI,m jenkins ATL, s moss WASH, and m jones FA and my starting qb is trent edwards.

Would you go for these two trades?

[stevew]

One trade in our league.

Team A trades.

MJD.
Shaun
R Moss
G Olsen

Team B trades
Brees
R Grant
Harvin
D Clark


Thoughts?

[stevew]

Non Dynasty

[GreenMonster]

I would be all over the Bowe trade, Crabtree will be the slot receiver for a while and rookie WR hardly ever do well, especially after missing all of camp. If it was a keeper league I wouldn't do it, Crabtree still has the chance to offer elite fantasy points in upcoming seasons, Bowe not so much and defiantly not if he doesn't grade traded from KC.

[GreenMonster]

Originally Posted by TLK

WR Percy Harvin, MIN
K Lawrence Tynes, NYG
RB Maurice Jones-Drew, JAC

for

RB Brian Westbrook, PHI
K Steven Hauschka, BAL
WR Brandon Marshall, DEN

This has to be the worst trade I've seen in a while. Am I missing something here or is this just a bad deal?

That seems pretty fair to me, I think MJD is the best player in the deal, but would rather have Brandon Marshall for the rest of the season over a injured here and there Harvin.

[Apathetic Lurker]

Originally Posted by GreenMonster

I would be all over the Bowe trade, Crabtree will be the slot receiver for a while and rookie WR hardly ever do well, especially after missing all of camp. If it was a keeper league I wouldn't do it, Crabtree still has the chance to offer elite fantasy points in upcoming seasons, Bowe not so much and defiantly not if he doesn't grade traded from KC.

Its a keeper league...

[Karlifornia]

Originally Posted by Qwikshot

Karlifornia - I'd always start Brady.

[k0ruptr]

Had a must win game in my sportshawaii.com league, and got it. I'm 3-3 now

In the FOFC alternate rules league I'm down 20 with 4 players left, and the person I'm playing is done. I think I can pull the win out, but its possible I don't

If I win I'll be 4-2 in that one. So far a decent season in both

[JS19]

Made the genius move of benching Brees todays (let me heart get in the way of a smart decison, I'm a Giants fan)... still managed to pull out the victory today, though.

[Mustang]

Do I just roll with D'A Williams and M. Turner this week or do I consider replacing one of them with J. Addai vs the Rams? (It is a PPR/TD/Yardage league so Addai has had some nice reception totals the last 2 weeks)

[NoSkillz]

Originally Posted by Apathetic Lurker

Got an offer of:
Dwayne Bowe wr and Roger McIntosh LB for

Paul Posluszny and Crabtree (MINE)

2nd trade is:

M Cassell, 5th round pick for:

1st rounder and Anderson (cle qb) MINE

My receivers are..shall we say poor(d bess MIA,k burton StL,d hester CHI,m jenkins ATL, s moss WASH, and m jones FA and my starting qb is trent edwards.

Would you go for these two trades?

Trent Edwards is your starter? Sheesh, how deep is your league (how many teams?)

There is no way Cassel is worth giving up a first rounder for - isn't there anyone on the waiver wire? Even picking up a guy like Henne on waivers would be better than going with T Edwards or trading a first for Cassel, who isn't playing in a dynamic offense.

[Samdari]

Originally Posted by Apathetic Lurker

My receivers are..(d bess MIA,k burton StL,d hester CHI,m jenkins ATL, s moss WASH, and m jones FA and my starting qb is trent edwards.

What happened?

[TLK]

sure buddy....

[TLK]

Originally Posted by Samdari

What happened?

32 team league?

[DataKing]

Originally Posted by TLK

sure buddy....

Your league software needs a "WTF?!?!" button.

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by TLK

sure buddy....

I hope you mocked him in front of the entire league.

[flere-imsaho]

That's pretty good stuff.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

I don't know, he did say he could do Burleson instead of Cotchery - he's obviously giving this a good faith effort.

[PackerFanatic]

So my brother has Brent Celek and Antonio Gates. He is pretty infatuated with Celek, so Gates is rotting on his bench. My TEs are Todd Heap and Anthony Fasano, so I could definitely use an upgrade. I asked him what he might want for Gates, and he said a WR and a mid-round draft pick next year. My current wideouts are Reggie Wayne, Steve Smith (NYG), TJ Housh, and Bernard Berrian. Really the only WR I would be willing to give up would be Berrian, but would Berrian + 6th rounder be good enough for Gates? And would that be worth it for me? I mean, it is only a TE. I am 5 - 1, but I have gotten pretty much no points out of that position.

What do you guys think?

[flere-imsaho]

Well, Berrian's probably useless after this year (if Favre retires) and I'd be willing to give up Housh for Gates.

[NoSkillz]

Lots of people in my league offering me deals - I'm near the bottom of the standings due to having no real #1 players but lots of #3 types (S. Moss, Harvin, Massaquoi, Portis, SJack, LDT, Winslow, etc)...my only real steals this year were getting Roethlisberger in the middle of the draft and B. Marshall in the fifth round.

I've been offered the following deal:
Roddy White and Kevin Smith for LDT and Marshall

Seems like a bit of a lateral move but now that I think of it, it might be a pretty good way of shaking things up. White is pretty consistent and Smith is a fulltime back in Detroit while you're always wondering when LDT is going to get hurt again. Any thoughts?

[Tigercat]

Looking for some opinions on who to start in my flex position this week(and going forward when Moreno comes back from his bye into the mix with these two): Slaton or Sidney Rice?

[flere-imsaho]

NoSkillz - if you're at the bottom of the league and it's not a keeper league, then at this point you start to need to look at high-risk, high-reward type of deals. If you hit you could run the table. If you don't then well, you're back where you started.

Given this, I'd stick with LDT & Marshall. White & Smith will get you some consistency, but neither have the potential to blow up like LDT & Marshall do.

Tigercat - I'd play the matchups exclusively with Slaton & Rice. Either can be easily held in check by defenses set up to stop their phase of the game. Having said that, based on his progress so far, I might put Moreno in full-time when he's back from his bye until he gives you reason not to.

[PackerFanatic]

Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

Well, Berrian's probably useless after this year (if Favre retires) and I'd be willing to give up Housh for Gates.

I was hesitant to suggest Housh, but looking at his numbers compared to the rest of my WRs, he'd be expendable for a consistent TE.

[NoSkillz]

Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

NoSkillz - if you're at the bottom of the league and it's not a keeper league, then at this point you start to need to look at high-risk, high-reward type of deals. If you hit you could run the table. If you don't then well, you're back where you started.

Given this, I'd stick with LDT & Marshall. White & Smith will get you some consistency, but neither have the potential to blow up like LDT & Marshall do.

It's a 12 team league, with three teams at 4-2, tied for first. I'm at 2-4 so I'm definitely not out of it being only two games back.

It's a two-person keeper league as well.

I'm also working on a deal with a guy desperate for RB help this week, offering Ricky Williams and Santana Moss for Steve Smith (Carolina)...Smith has done nothing but I think he could be an upgrade over Moss long-term. Thoughts?

[Samdari]

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

I was hesitant to suggest Housh, but looking at his numbers compared to the rest of my WRs, he'd be expendable for a consistent TE.

That was my thought as well. Who would not give up Houshmanzadeh for Gates right now? Especially when you have two must start ahead of Housh every week WRs, so you need one guy, for one week (the Giants bye, week 10) from Berrian or a waiver wire WR. Compare that to Gates? Seems a no-brainer to me.

[stevew]

Slaton vs SF
Thomas Jones vs Oak
Benson vs Chi
Mendenhall vs Vikes-

Pick 3.

I'm probably sitting mendenhall here.

Also got offered Brees for Romo/Slaton.

I've been running Flacco out there every week, and he's averaging about 4ppg less than Brees. I dunno whether to pull the trigger on it. Mainly cause I don't necessarily feel like giving the proposing team a good back(he has Caddalac/Ryan Grant/Parker/Chester Taylor/McFadden/Fred Jackson as his backs). We're tied in the playoff race at 3-3 but he smokes me in total points.

I may try to steal Ryan Grant off him(GB has a cupcake schedule coming up)

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by stevew

Slaton vs SF
Thomas Jones vs Oak
Benson vs Chi
Mendenhall vs Vikes-

Pick 3.

I'm probably sitting mendenhall here.

Also got offered Brees for Romo/Slaton.

I've been running Flacco out there every week, and he's averaging about 4ppg less than Brees. I dunno whether to pull the trigger on it. Mainly cause I don't necessarily feel like giving the proposing team a good back(he has Caddalac/Ryan Grant/Parker/Chester Taylor/McFadden/Fred Jackson as his backs). We're tied in the playoff race at 3-3 but he smokes me in total points.

I may try to steal Ryan Grant off him(GB has a cupcake schedule coming up)

Is Slaton really a "good" back, though. Won't there come a point this season where Kubiak goes through the "fuck it, we'll just let Shaub throw 55 times a game; we don't need to run the ball" phase that all young "offensive guru" coaches go through? Haven't we already reached that point? Yeah, Slaton gets points for receiving yards--but that is very unreliable in fantasy--much more random than a back you know will get 20+ carries every week.

On the other hand, I've watched the Saints play this season, and the team has a stronger running game than people think. They are not afraid to run the ball if that is what the defense gives them. Two of their five games this season, Brees has zero touchdown passes. On any given week, I think that Brees has a higher upside [i[and[/i] a lower downside than Flacco.

[flere-imsaho]

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

I was hesitant to suggest Housh, but looking at his numbers compared to the rest of my WRs, he'd be expendable for a consistent TE.

Yeah, I have Housh on one of my teams, so I already knew that he'd be expendable this year for someone more consistent. Plus, I'd say he's going to be dependent on Hasselbeck, who could go back out injured at any time. And anyway, Gates tends to deliver like a #1/#2 WR.

Originally Posted by NoSkillz

I'm also working on a deal with a guy desperate for RB help this week, offering Ricky Williams and Santana Moss for Steve Smith (Carolina)...Smith has done nothing but I think he could be an upgrade over Moss long-term. Thoughts?

It's a long-term play for sure, but if your WR group is performing well so far, you could take Smith essentially for the future (or, better, the end of the season if Carolina suddenly start to figure things out).

Originally Posted by stevew

Slaton vs SF
Thomas Jones vs Oak
Benson vs Chi
Mendenhall vs Vikes-

Pick 3.

Yes, probably sit Mendenhall, both as Min's run D is good and it's likely to be a shootout anyway, but also because the other three have pretty good matchups. I have to think, for instance, that Benson is going to try extra-special-hard to light up Chicago.

Also got offered Brees for Romo/Slaton.

I may try to steal Ryan Grant off him(GB has a cupcake schedule coming up)

This, otherwise no. As you noted, Brees isn't a huge upgrade in fantasy points over Flacco, and why give this guy another back?

[stevew]

Told a friend I'd post this for him

PPR one keeper

He gets Megatron and Gore
He trades Grant and roddy White

Seems like too good on the surface.

I said no cause of injury risks.

[Karlifornia]

Originally Posted by stevew

Told a friend I'd post this for him

PPR one keeper

He gets Megatron and Gore
He trades Grant and roddy White

Seems like too good on the surface.

I said no cause of injury risks.

No. I have Calvin Johnson on one of my teams, and he hasn't done anything. You may say "It's a keeper league, Detroit could get better", but we're talking about the Lions here. Gore is too much of an injury risk, and Grant and White play on good teams.

I would turn it down, even though it's a fairly even looking deal.

[stevew]

The guy proposed it to my friend. Admiral Ackbar was warning me "its a trap".

[TLK]

Who gets the better end of Forte & Boldin for Chris Johnson?

[PurdueBrad]

Originally Posted by TLK

Who gets the better end of Forte & Boldin for Chris Johnson?

If you are PPR, I think the guy that gets Forte/Boldin does as the Bears are said to be adding a lot more "extended handoffs" (re: the swing pass to Forte) into their repertoire. In addition, I think he actually gets on track and the Arizona passing offense, while inconsistent, should get Boldin some good numbers the rest of the way.

[PurdueBrad]

Pretty important game for me as it would give me a two game lead on first place (which of course means I'm second-guessing every move I've made). Most of my choices were with the help of Football Guys, but I respect your opinions as much or more. One note, we are a PPR league:

A- Brady or Schaub? Right now, I'm on Brady despite the travel to London. I know last week was a fluke but they do play Tampa Bay and I think the Pats will try to put on a show. Schaub plays SF but is at home.

B- Moss, Driver, Bowe, or DeSean Jackson? I am playing the first three. I can't sit Moss, Driver has been the hottest receiver in Green Bay (and they play Cleveland), so I guess it is really Bowe or Jackson. Bowe at home against San Diego or Jackson at Washington on Monday night. We do get a point for every twenty return yards as well.

C- Need two here: Ronnie Brown, Joseph Addai, Rashard Mendenhall, Jamal Lewis. I currently have Brown and Addai slated to play as Brown plays the Saints (although I'm worried about them being down by fifty and needing to throw) and Addai has the Rams. I sat Mendenhall because he plays Minnesota who has a strong run D (although seems a bit down this year) and I don't love having Jamal Lewis but he is depth.

Thanks in advance. Like I said, I feel like these are the right moves but you guys usually have a pretty good eye for things.

[Flasch186]

dont know who to start and cant get settle on 2 of these 3 WR's:

PPR

Randy Moss
Hines Ward
Roddy White

All 3 are playing Defenses that look inviting...who should I start?

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

If you can only start two of them, I'd go Moss and White personally. They're all great plays this week though.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Pretty important game for me as it would give me a two game lead on first place (which of course means I'm second-guessing every move I've made). Most of my choices were with the help of Football Guys, but I respect your opinions as much or more. One note, we are a PPR league:

A- Brady or Schaub? Right now, I'm on Brady despite the travel to London. I know last week was a fluke but they do play Tampa Bay and I think the Pats will try to put on a show. Schaub plays SF but is at home.

B- Moss, Driver, Bowe, or DeSean Jackson? I am playing the first three. I can't sit Moss, Driver has been the hottest receiver in Green Bay (and they play Cleveland), so I guess it is really Bowe or Jackson. Bowe at home against San Diego or Jackson at Washington on Monday night. We do get a point for every twenty return yards as well.

C- Need two here: Ronnie Brown, Joseph Addai, Rashard Mendenhall, Jamal Lewis. I currently have Brown and Addai slated to play as Brown plays the Saints (although I'm worried about them being down by fifty and needing to throw) and Addai has the Rams. I sat Mendenhall because he plays Minnesota who has a strong run D (although seems a bit down this year) and I don't love having Jamal Lewis but he is depth.

Thanks in advance. Like I said, I feel like these are the right moves but you guys usually have a pretty good eye for things.

Brady
Jackson is tempting especially with the return yardage, but Bowe in a PPR for sure
Brown and Addai for me as well

[TLK]

Quick help here:

K. Walter vs. SF
A. Boldin @ NYG
H. Nicks vs. ARZ
J. Knox @ CIN

Pick 1. I have Walter penciled in at the moment.

[PurdueBrad]

Thanks Ronnie Dobbs, greatly appreciated.

[Mustang]

Guess I feel pretty good about picking up Austin last week on the WW and starting him this week.

[Neuqua]

Yeah same here, with me picking up Sidney Rice.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by Mustang

Guess I feel pretty good about picking up Austin last week on the WW and starting him this week.

I've had him the last two games he's been in, and it's been awesome.

[MikeVic]

What do you think of this trade:

I send Chris Johnson for Ryan Grant and Santonio Holmes?

I know I know, it's Chris Johnson... but I have Reggie Wayne as my #1 and he could be gone for a bit? My #2 WR is a stable of iffy guys, and I think Holmes is an upgrade over the likes of Breaston, Harvin, Santana Moss, etc. And Ryan Grant would kind of go with Mendenhall or Pierre Thomas.

Am I just crazy to consider this?

[Qwikshot]

Originally Posted by MikeVic

What do you think of this trade:

I send Chris Johnson for Ryan Grant and Santonio Holmes?

I know I know, it's Chris Johnson... but I have Reggie Wayne as my #1 and he could be gone for a bit? My #2 WR is a stable of iffy guys, and I think Holmes is an upgrade over the likes of Breaston, Harvin, Santana Moss, etc. And Ryan Grant would kind of go with Mendenhall or Pierre Thomas.

Am I just crazy to consider this?

I like Chris Johnson, he singlehandedly racked up 100 yards plus on the Patriots without the benefit of a competant QB or decent receivers.

I would need to see your receiver corp and runningback corp, but Johnson is a top 10 back, I can't say the same for Grant, nor can I say the same for Holmes as a receiver upgrade.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

Yeah I would want a better WR in that trade.