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This worked out pretty well...
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The downside is that I had hoped to grab one ofthe LBs that DC Fritz identified, but they both went during the big run of picks in the middle of the draft. So, we can start our thinking anew here. We have (presumably) resolved our backfield issues by adding two new potential ball carriers - now we probably just want to fill in BPA, unless something strikes you all that hasn't me. |
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10-27-2003, 03:01 PM
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10-27-2003, 03:06 PM
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10-27-2003, 03:07 PM
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I agree with earlier comments that RB Troy Newsome might have a very bright future as a receiver, if we might be inclined to go there.
While he’s not Fritz’s ideal guy, LB Kim Vonnegut still shows some potential to be decent all around. Perhaps Fritz might prefer LB Kyle Condon, who has a few particularly well-developed current skills, and shows tremendous run-stopping potential as well (the more I look, the more I think Fritz would love this guy). DT Jerry Hopkins isn’t that special, but DT is a position where we rarely see anything at all in the late rounds. He’s a potential backup for a couple of years. QB Leo Harding is still there, too. We’ve had calls for him for some time, now. …or we could just trade away our picks here for something next year (technical, but not substantive, violation of our house rules) since we are already over our roster limit pretty considerably. |
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10-27-2003, 03:18 PM
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Hmm, I'd missed him. I thought RB R.J. Zimmerman might have been good, but Newsome might be better faster. I still like the idea of QB Leo Harding, we'd be down to 3 QB's (don't know what the new OC's stance is on keeping QB's), and he might be decent to groom, at least as a cheap backup/3rd stringer.
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10-27-2003, 03:28 PM
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I would say that any concerns about a drop-off in the talent of the backfield have been pretty well handled. There will be a very nice 1-2 punch at both RB and FB.
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10-27-2003, 03:29 PM
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I think R.J. Zimmerman has some size problems... last year our 219 pound guy didn't switch all that well to WR, and Zim is 218. But Newsome, at 202, looks like an excellent candidate to me.
At the moment, we have 7 WRs signed to contracts... but we certainly could let one or two of them go... we'll need to be making cuts anyway. |
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10-27-2003, 03:33 PM
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Not a guy I want to start, but I wonder if there is any return on a guy like Lamont McIntyre. Very high ST ratings.
DT hopkins would be a fine 3 year guy. enough ability to play if need, will get a little better, but no hard feelings when you let him go.
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10-27-2003, 03:37 PM
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I meant to mention him... thought he might catch your eye. Woudl be a great player for FOF 2004 - slot him in as a "gunner" on special teams. In FOF 2004, I don't know what you really get out of a guy like this... he's not a returner, just a special teamer. Do you leave him active ahead of guys who actualy play? (I guiess you have to) |
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10-27-2003, 03:58 PM
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Sounds like things have been going well. I just don't see much of a future for Harding. I would be fine going into the season with our top two guys (not that there is much of a choice here) and picking up #3 in undrafted FA after the draft.
I'm very happy from the O perspective. If there is a LB out there who fits the Fritz model, I think that's a fine choice. Trading away for a pick next year may be the best option that I have heard. |
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10-27-2003, 04:03 PM
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QB Harding was mentioned in the 2nd round pick discussions...he's still available here and again, if you considered him in the 2nd round you've gotta love him this late in the draft.
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10-27-2003, 04:48 PM
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My feeling is our team is in decent shape. we should be drafting guys we may need next season.
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10-27-2003, 04:50 PM
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Either that, or it was just silly of me to mention him in the 2nd round. Most likely it was my silliness. Considering that Moe Williams slid to the 5th round. Leo Harding and Kim Vonnegut are still available, and Steven Cox and Rusty Peete fell to 98th and 120th picks, respectively. I'd say I should just stick to scouting opposing studs, "hosses" and "monsters".
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10-28-2003, 07:47 AM
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I go ahead and grab a couple of intriguing players for our last two spots, and we are ready to move on. We have 55 players signed at this point, so we will have to be making cuts – at least after training camp. However, I do want to inject something here—it seems that RB R.J. Harden, whose $10m-and-up demands have put him on our “too bad” list, has come back to earth somewhat. His is now seeking a less outrageous contract of $13.25 million for two years—and might even come down a bit from that number (they usually will, somewhat). Since we already have about $3.8m in cap space, and we have to make at least four cuts anyway – it’s certainly possible that by making five cuts, and having at least some of them be guys making a bit more than the rookie minimum, that we will end up clearing out sufficient space for Harden. Yes, I dismissed this possibility earlier – for that I’m sorry. But, since we have the chance, I think we ought to look at it, at least. |
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10-28-2003, 07:52 AM
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Here is our roster, salary view, after the draft:
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10-28-2003, 07:54 AM
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10-28-2003, 07:55 AM
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10-28-2003, 07:58 AM
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Since we will have to make cuts at WR anyway, I think that Robert Sanderson ought to be one of them. We decided last year that he really wasn't a starter (over my objections, really) and then drafted a promising rookie this season, as well as another pretty solid veteran. Sanderson's in the last year of his contract, and we'd clear out $1.8m in cap space bu releasing him here. As much as I have liked him, I think he needs to go - we're just too deep at the position to pay him that much to be "in the mix" somehow.
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We did? I must have missed that meeting.
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10-28-2003, 08:32 AM
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Do we want to take any flyers on rooke FA's? Maybe a safety, or K/P?
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10-28-2003, 09:25 AM
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I would like Harden in the fold. However, I cannot promise that he will get the ball enough. We have a lot of talented runners in the backfield. If no one gets injured this year, then someone will be spending more time on the pine than his talent would dictate (Probably Cool Moe). Of course, if someone does get injured this year, then having depth back there would be a nice luxury.
If there is no where else to spend the money, I would like us to cut Sanderson and sign Harden, who, in my view, is the real deal. However, if we decide that there is a better place to use the $$, then I can see not signing Harden. Also--as you can see with a visit to the main board, I am having connection problems at home. Hopefully, it will all be good by the time I get home tonight. However, if we need to have a guy come out to look at it or some such thing, then I may be without access to the game files for a while. Last edited by albionmoonlight : 10-28-2003 at 09:26 AM. |
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He played in 10 games, and got 3 starts. To me, that's "not really a starter." Over three seasons, he played in 42 games, and got 16 starts. Same conclusion, to me. Regardless, I stilll think he ought to be cut. We have a variety of intriguing players at WR, and he's not special enough to merit getting paid three times whant most of them make. |
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Ah, just too many guys to cycle through.
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10-28-2003, 10:23 AM
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Okay - for those who have an opportunity to give input, lt m try to "focus" this to avoid some of the troubles we had last season at this point.
The next things we need to do are: (1) decide if we want to re-sign RB Harden, and if so, then we need to make some roster cuts before training camp to afford him; and (2) decide on our settings for training camp and run the camp. My next step with the actual game will be to implmeent both of these things - so now would be the time to make suggestions for guys who we can live without. I won't cut more guys pre-camp than I really have to, but if we want Harden then we'll have to clear out the cap space before camp, period. |
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10-28-2003, 10:31 AM
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would CB Alan Stockton convert to S?
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10-28-2003, 10:34 AM
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We can drop SLB Mills
I need one more DL.
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10-28-2003, 10:36 AM
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Well, I know we just signed him, but Melvin Tejada is looking rather superfluous right now.
I know it might be heresy, but my version of the game shows a trade offer extended for Willie Andrews. It passes the fairness test. It would save almost $10M, if we feel strong enough with our other tackles. We would get a G and a 7th rounder in return.
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10-28-2003, 10:37 AM
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Weightwise, he's marginal as a safety. The game says he'd switch at 92%, meaning he'd lose some of the skills that make him worthwhile - returning, etc. He certainly wouldn not improve by the switch.
Of course, if you only wanted to use him at safety, there's not need to switch him to do that. |
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my thought is to move him to S and to cut Preston Hillard. The move to S is just to help us stay legal in the event of injuries, so it could be done anytime. I never want him getting closer to a play than the dime.
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10-28-2003, 10:40 AM
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Okay - I just tested, and we can sign RB Harden with only WR Sanderson released - and then delay any other cut decisions until after training camp. We also could sign rookie free agents to bring to camp - as adding a few minsal rookies won't increase our cap number.
So, if anyone has suggestiogn along those lines, now would be the time to get them in. |
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10-28-2003, 10:43 AM
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We could sign URFA DT Jerry Hopkins, whom we discussed back in the late draft rounds. He's still available, and cheap. I'll get him into training camp. |
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10-28-2003, 10:44 AM
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camp fodder
Albert Goss SS Broderick Scoggins LCB better than stockton perhaps Lamont McIntyre OLB our STer is still there waiting for an invite Clay Glover MLB High motor player Deon Bednarsh LDT worth a camp bid Brandon Tamburrino NT worth a camp bid
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10-28-2003, 10:48 AM
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P J.C. Woods RT Floyd Martyn RB Lee Myers (obviously not a need) Haven't checked affinities though. edit: McKenzie's no good.
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With the numbers Finley has put up, and him being fairly young, I would anticipate him wanting a monstrous contract. Getting Harden might be wise to prepare for next year. Yes we've got a lot of talented backs, but having some depth could be good.
I'm for cutting Sanderson and signing Harden. In regard to training camp, we have pretty much used the same settings every year. If we're happy with the way things have gone, not much reason to change them. I'm not sure how much effect a little tweak here or there will make.
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10-28-2003, 10:56 AM
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I am cool with cutting Sanderson and signing Harden. I trust the scout to pull in any camp fodder for the O.
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10-28-2003, 10:58 AM
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Just checking. It would have saved a huge chunk of change  I'm all for cutting Sanderson and signing Harden also. I'd also say if it would allow us to bring in another worthwhile rookie for a look, cut Mixon*. * I am still confused as to why his initial switch to WR was deemed a failure, when his overall potential (which I know can be misleading) hadn't dropped but Kendrick Ellison's had, yet he's still at WR. Was this based on his breakdown of individual abilities? Last edited by cuervo72 : 10-28-2003 at 11:20 AM. |
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10-28-2003, 11:40 AM
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Yes, it was due to individual abilitites. Ellison's skills were well-suited to play WR, Mixon's were so-so, but he's a better RB by some margin. Actually, I think both may have to get cut this year, depending on the training camp outcome. The principal reason we moved Mixon back to RB, though, was because we were already deep at WR abd desperate at RB. The latter isn't true any longer, especially once we re-sign Harden. |
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10-28-2003, 12:01 PM
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I think you might be right about cutting both of them.
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10-28-2003, 03:05 PM
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I finally got the game to load so I can follow along better now. It's cool to actually be able to look at all these guys you've been talking about. You know, patching to the latest version really helped a lot...
 Man I'm dumb sometimes.
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As I posted earlier, it took me about a day to figure that out. Oh, and I'm dumb most of the time. 
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10-29-2003, 06:55 AM
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RE: Training Camp
I don't know if AML is going to continue with a run focused attack. If so, then there may be no need to tweak the training camp times. However, if he is going to open up the attack a little more and go to the air, then we may want to balance out the Pass Play time and the Run Play time. Also, Ethan Francis knows 10 formations and has low intelligence (24). If I remember correctly Heath Sparks lost a formation after one of our training camps. He currently knows 15, and has average intelligence (41). Do we want to maintain the status quo and hope Francis doesn't lose a formation, or do we want to try and bump up the film study? If we do increase it, where should we cut time?
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A though just crossed my mind about Sparks and that formation loss. Could scouting affect the "left hand" ratings as well?
Just a thought.
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hmm
I test drove my D on a home career with results beyond bad. I suppose that does not mean much since the talent level was vastly inferior to what we have here, at least in the front seven.
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10-29-2003, 08:47 AM
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Here is the summary of our training camp:
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We now have 59 players, and will need to make six cuts before we start the season. Disappointing news with our rookies – CB Barton lost a little bit (only one point) and so did WR Willis and FB Weber. None were catastrophic losses (like late-round flier QB Harding) but seeing them erode probably limits their upside in each case. edit - sorry about formatting, I always get messes when dropping in from Excel Last edited by QuikSand : 10-29-2003 at 08:50 AM. |
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I guess the def staff's Camp Fodder List (TM) was a waste-o-time.
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Without being too pointed, I’m of the opinion that players who make gains in their potential during training camp ought to remain on the team, unless there’s overwhelming cause otherwise. This year, that might prove to be a strain – marginal RB add-on Lee Myers made a 2-point jump, and in my mind should win the 4th RB spot (ahead of RB Eric Mixon).
Less troubling should be late-round WR experiment Troy Newsome, whose 2-point jump probably makes him a pretty good bet to evolve into a rather solid receiver – he HAS to make the team, in my book. In fact, Newsome may turn out to be the best pickup from this draft, on balance. His development looks more optimistic than most of our guys, and he already shows more aggregate potential than our top WR rookie, Marc Willis. Plus, after his initial 3yr deal is up, we’ll get a shot to re-sign him on our own terms, if we are so inclined. |
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Entirely my fault. I completely missed it, and don't know how. Sorry. If any of those guys are still available now, we can certanly pick them up - without the benefit of an initial training camp, of course. I'll prepare a letter. |
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Fritz - I'm thinking that is a negative. I know that FB Rubble had a leadership rating of 79 prior to our new scout, and Johns was 100. They still are, even with a scout change. So, knowing that leadership stays constant between scouts, I'm assuming the other "left hand" ratings also stay constant.
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