NFL Week 17: It's the Final Countdown...

[Eaglesfan27]

I love it. The announcers say, "we don't have time to go through all of the scoring plays."


Sheesh, just saw that horrible interception by Favre.

[Izulde]

Yay!!!! Huge 4th down conversion there!!!!

2:00 is still a lot of time though if the Jets get the ball back without Miami scoring.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by duckman

Weak?

McNabb has choked in 4 of 5 NFC Championship games and 1 Super Bowl appearance. Teams in the NFC East don't call him McChoke for nothing.

McNabb at least made it to those NFC Champ and SB games. Romo has been where? (insert "On vacation with Jessica that one time" jokes here). The only time he had a credible WR was when the WR in question missed all of the playoffs besides the SB itself. In other words, McNabb has pretty much had near a fraction of the WR talent that Romo has in terms of getting to the kind of games he can't even get to. Look at what Romo has for WRs, TE, and RBs. In a win, or go home type situation, his team is the one who isn't just getting beat, but they are getting embarrassed. Romo can't even carry McNabb's underachieving jockstrap.

[stevew]

Hopefully favre can throw another pick here.

[Jas_lov]

And the Brett Favre experiment in New York ends in massive failure. It couldn't have worked out any worse for Jets fans watching their former QB, who they threw in the trash, beat them out for the division. It was really hard to see Favre struggle as badly as he did down the stretch. And this will be his legacy. Should have listened to Packer management who knew he was done. Sad end to an overrated career.

[yacovfb]

Madden curse strikes again

[Greyroofoo]

Well Pat fans, I guess you didn't root hard enough for the Jets.

[Eaglesfan27]

Entertaining final play.

[stevew]

The Rodgers experiment was a rousing success too.

[molson]

Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

Well Pat fans, I guess you didn't root hard enough for the Jets.

Rooting for Favre is extremely irritating.....

Ah well, I don't think the Pats could compete with the top teams in the AFC, still a great year for them, and at least I'm entertained by the collapse of the Jets/Favre/Cowboys.

[Izulde]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Entertaining final play.

Agreed.

But best of all...

DOLPHINS WIN!!!! DOLPHINS WIN!!!!

YOUR 2008 AFC EAST CHAMPIONS!!!!

What a great year. Miami's finally good again, truly good, for the first time since the Marino era... and as an added bonus, I won my first ever fantasy football championship in my third time of making it to the final game.

[EagleFan]

[Radii]

Originally Posted by molson

That's like the classic dopey sports fan argument. We just need 3 more for a Mt. Rushmore.

Any argument involving the transitive property belongs. Oakland beat the Jets, the Jets beat the Titans. Clearly Oakland is a better team than the Titans!

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by stevew

The Rodgers experiment was a rousing success too.

I've never seen so much shit thrown at a player who has played as well as Rodgers has this year. How is it his fault that the Packers defense imploded this year? They went from like 6th to 21st.

[EagleFan]

Oh, grats on the turn arounds by the Falcons and Dolphins.

[larrymcg421]

It's been quite a season. And it was nice to see Pennington get some revenge on the Jets.

Does Favre have the record for most Interceptions thrown by someone who was named to the Pro Bowl?

[PilotMan]

The Lions might be 0-16 but I argue that they could have beaten the Browns anytime in this last month. The Browns are truly horrid.

[yacovfb]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Does Favre have the record for most Interceptions thrown by someone who was named to the Pro Bowl?

Conversely, does Rivers have the most TD's and best QB rating for a guy not named to the Pro Bowl?

[Jas_lov]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

I've never seen so much shit thrown at a player who has played as well as Rodgers has this year. How is it his fault that the Packers defense imploded this year? They went from like 6th to 21st.

It's just because he's following the beloved Brett Favre. Rodgers had a great year, much better than Favre, but Rodgers did not have Thomas Jones or a good defense to back him up. I don't know why he said the Rodgers experiment wasn't a success as it's far from over. And it wasn't even Rodgers fault the defense gave up 30 ppg in the last 6 games.

It's just like that guy who said McNabb=Romo when McNabb has had a solid career and a lot of success in the playoffs. Superbowl wins doesn't equal greatness. Terry Bradshaw isn't a better QB than Marino or Elway, and no sane person would say that.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Well, it's almost time for the Broncos and Chargers. I have a fear that the Chargers will put this game away early. I hope not, but I don't have a great feeling about this game.

Hey, for you drinkers out there, here's a drinking game for tonight. Drink every time the Broncos miss an easy tackle. You'll be hammered by the end of the first quarter.

sigh

[Buccaneer]

My wife and I favorite NFC teams are the Cardinals and Falcons. It's too bad that they have to face off next week but at least one of them will win.

I'm calling a Colts-Panthers Super Bowl.

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by PilotMan

The Lions might be 0-16 but I argue that they could have beaten the Browns anytime in this last month. The Browns are truly horrid.

Detroit might be able to beat Cornell or Dartmouth, but Brown is one of the better Ivy League teams.

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Detroit might be able to beat Cornell or Dartmouth, but Brown is one of the better Ivy League teams.

[Senator]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

My wife and I favorite NFC teams are the Cardinals and Falcons. It's too bad that they have to face off next week but at least one of them will win.

Good, now I know who to cheer against the rest of the way. Call it my little revenge for your hatred of our team.

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by Senator

Good, now I know who to cheer against the rest of the way. Call it my little revenge for your hatred of our team.

That doesn't bother me in the least.

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by Izulde

Agreed.

But best of all...

DOLPHINS WIN!!!! DOLPHINS WIN!!!!

YOUR 2008 AFC EAST CHAMPIONS!!!!

What a great year. Miami's finally good again, truly good, for the first time since the Marino era... and as an added bonus, I won my first ever fantasy football championship in my third time of making it to the final game.

Congrats to all of the Miami fans. I think Jerry Jones' biggest mistake will be the running off of Parcells. He's done a great job turning that organization around.

[Thomkal]

well I think my beloved Cards got about the best matchup in the playoffs they could with the Falcons. Rookie QB who looked like a rookie in today's game, and a defense that's not very scary other than John Abraham. Cards have lost to all the other playoff teams so at least Atlanta will not have that advantage over them.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

well I think my beloved Cards got about the best matchup in the playoffs they could with the Falcons.

I was thinking the same thing for us Falcons fans

[Arles]

Originally Posted by stevew

The Rodgers experiment was a rousing success too.

2007 scoring offense w/ Favre: No. 4 in the NFL
2008 scoring offense w/ Rodgers: No. 3 in the NFL

2007 Favre: 4,155 yards, 28 TDs, 15 INTs
2008 Rodgers: 4,038 yards, 28 TDs, 13 INTs
(2008 Favre: 3,472 yards, 22 TDs, 22 INTs)

2007 GB scoring defense: No. 6 in NFL
2008 GB scoring defense: No. 24 in the NFL

How many people thought Rodgers would duplicate Favre's "magical" 2007 season in his rookie campaign? Yet, many still feel the difference in QB play was the reason GB struggled this season

Throw in the fact that it was Rodgers' first season as a QB and the team was devastated with injuries, there's reason for optimism in GB at the QB spot. How much optimism is there in NYJ for the QB spot?

[Eaglesfan27]

Just realized that depending upon the TV schedule, the Eagles could be playing the Vikings on my Birthday.

[MIJB#19]

So, which team are the Colts hoping for: Broncos or Chargers?

[stevew]

I admire the optimism of fans of a 6 win team.

[Jas_lov]

Originally Posted by Arles

2007 scoring offense w/ Favre: No. 4 in the NFL
2008 scoring offense w/ Rodgers: No. 3 in the NFL

2007 Favre: 4,155 yards, 28 TDs, 15 INTs
2008 Rodgers: 4,038 yards, 28 TDs, 13 INTs
(2008 Favre: 3,472 yards, 22 TDs, 22 INTs)

2007 GB scoring defense: No. 6 in NFL
2008 GB scoring defense: No. 24 in the NFL

How many people thought Rodgers would duplicate Favre's "magical" 2007 season in his rookie campaign? Yet, many still feel the difference in QB play was the reason GB struggled this season

Throw in the fact that it was Rodgers' first season as a QB and the team was devastated with injuries, there's reason for optimism in GB at the QB spot. How much optimism is there in NYJ for the QB spot?

None, as Favre is done and the Jets have given the Packers a 3rd round pick. Would have been a 2nd had Favre not struggled so much down the stretch. Rodgers > Favre in so many ways but some people just look at the records and say "Yep, Favre was the sole reason the Packers went 13-3 last year and Rodgers took them to 6-10." These people just don't know football.

The Packers wouldn't have won 4 games with Favre at QB. He's done. Rodgers has a bright future and everyone knows it.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I was thinking the same thing for us Falcons fans

Oh I agree. Sad to admit it but the Cards are the best matchup for any of the other playoff teams

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Jas_lov

These people just don't know football.

Which is pretty much what I'd say about those who think Rodgers will ever be a winning QB in the NFL. I'd take Favre with arthritis, a migraine, and a sharp stick protruding from his right eye over Rogers in a heartbeat.

[stevew]

Oh and for the record I think Favre and Ray Lewis are 2 of the most overrated players in pro sports history.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Originally Posted by MIJB#19

So, which team are the Colts hoping for: Broncos or Chargers?

They probably don't care, as the Colts should destroy either one.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Which is pretty much what I'd say about those who think Rodgers will ever be a winning QB in the NFL. I'd take Favre with arthritis, a migraine, and a sharp stick protruding from his right eye over Rogers in a heartbeat.

You'd take Favre in what? A "throw a game-changing interception" competition?

[yacovfb]

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

They probably don't care, as the Colts should destroy either one.

Chargers have played the Colts tough the last few years. Even this year, the Colts only won on a 50 yarder as time expired. I'm guessing they'd rather go to Denver.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Which is pretty much what I'd say about those who think Rodgers will ever be a winning QB in the NFL. I'd take Favre with arthritis, a migraine, and a sharp stick protruding from his right eye over Rogers in a heartbeat.

If all those maladies removed his ability to throw the ball directly at defenders, you might be on to something.

[Balldog]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Congrats to all of the Miami fans. I think Jerry Jones' biggest mistake will be the running off of Parcells. He's done a great job turning that organization around.

Sounds like Parcells could be one the move again, there was a story this morning on ESPN about it.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Originally Posted by yacovfb

Chargers have played the Colts tough the last few years. Even this year, the Colts only won on a 50 yarder as time expired. I'm guessing they'd rather go to Denver.

I don't think San Diego can bring enough intensity next week. I would not be surprised if they use up all their juice on tonight's game. Obviously, I could be wrong, but I think this is San Diego's playoff game. The Colts are a scary, scary team right now.

[DaddyTorgo]

bah...i'm upset the pats couldn't make it, but given the level of injuries they sustained to key players i suppose the year has to be considered somewhat of a success.

and at least this clears things up and now i can freely root 100% for the Dirty Birds and Matty.

[terpkristin]

Apparently you can't be a fan of the opposing team in the Buccaneers' stadium? Security: Tampa Bay Handcuffs And Ejects You For Rooting For The Opposing Football Team

/tk

[Buccaneer]

My wife, son and I were just debating about the playoffs. We were torn on the Cards/Falcons but think the Cards lack of running and usually bad run defense will do them in, even going up against a rookie QB on the road. It all depends on how much Kurt can shread the Falcons secondary.

My son picked the Ravens to win the AFC, while my wife and I picked the Colts. My son kept arguing with me of how the Bolts own the Colts in the playoffs but I said that even if the Bolts win tonight, they are still a mediocre team while the Colts are peaking big time.

I think we were unanimous on the Eagles over the Vikings, solely because of McNabb's playoffs experience and having no confidence in Jackson.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by terpkristin

Apparently you can't be a fan of the opposing team in the Buccaneers' stadium? Security: Tampa Bay Handcuffs And Ejects You For Rooting For The Opposing Football Team

/tk

Waiting for more info, because I'm sure it's out there.

Call me pessimistic.

[Racer]

Originally Posted by MIJB#19

So, which team are the Colts hoping for: Broncos or Chargers?

As a Colts fan, I'd much rather see the Colts play the Broncos then the Chargers and it isn't even close. The Chargers are likely much better then their record indicates while the Broncos aren't. In addition, the Colts have struggled against the Chargers the past several seasons while owning the Broncos whenever they play them. We only beat the Chargers by 3 points earlier this season so beating them again is far from a slam dunk.

[Jas_lov]

I said last week that all 4 wildcard teams would be favorites over the 3 and 4 seeds, and that's especially true now with Miami getting in over New England. I'm sure at least one of the home teams will win next week but I don't know which one. Minnesota or Miami I guess.

[terpkristin]

Originally Posted by Logan

Waiting for more info, because I'm sure it's out there.

Call me pessimistic.

I wouldn't be surprised. Though...can't say I'd be surprised if it were true and he was sober, too...

/tk

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Arles

2007 scoring offense w/ Favre: No. 4 in the NFL
2008 scoring offense w/ Rodgers: No. 3 in the NFL

2007 Favre: 4,155 yards, 28 TDs, 15 INTs
2008 Rodgers: 4,038 yards, 28 TDs, 13 INTs
(2008 Favre: 3,472 yards, 22 TDs, 22 INTs)

2007 GB scoring defense: No. 6 in NFL
2008 GB scoring defense: No. 24 in the NFL

How many people thought Rodgers would duplicate Favre's "magical" 2007 season in his rookie campaign? Yet, many still feel the difference in QB play was the reason GB struggled this season

Throw in the fact that it was Rodgers' first season as a QB and the team was devastated with injuries, there's reason for optimism in GB at the QB spot. How much optimism is there in NYJ for the QB spot?

Stats aside, I think the biggest knock on Rodgers has been his poor play in close games late. I remember seeing a stat during the Monday Night game and I thought it said his rating was in the 30's.