College Football Week 14 thread.

[vex]

Originally Posted by Galaril

Nice of OU to go for a TD with 20 seconds left from the 35 yard line. Wow, though I am not any BIG 12 or other big school in the BCS running I now have a reason to hate these OU assholes at least the coach . What a tool.

It was a run. Wasn't like they aired it out.

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by sooner333

On OU's behalf, they were running the ball and eating all 40 seconds of the clock. I believe it would have run out, but Oklahoma State called timeout with 34 seconds left. Bradford had a hurt thumb and stopped taking the ball under center, so kneeling was not an option. They ran the same play they had, a handoff up the middle and Oklahoma State refused to stop it.

I don't think it was egregious, they did a simple run. But, are you really saying he couldn't take a knee because of his thumb? It is harder on the thumb to take a knee than it is to hand off the ball?

[sooner333]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I don't think it was that egregious, they did a simple run. But, are you really saying he couldn't take a knee because of his thumb? It is harder on the thumb to take a knee than it is to hand off the ball?

He basically fumbled two snaps after his thumb got hurt. I think if you're within two scores, you don't want to risk giving the ball up, especially when it almost happened twice already in the half for the same reason. I guess he could have recieved a shotgun snap and kneeled, but I don't think I've ever seen that done.

[Recoil]

[MrBug708]

My cousin said that they were booing when they saw that Oregon beat OSU!

[JonInMiddleGA]

Recoil just reminded me ... what's the good word again?

[Recoil]

TO HELL WITH GEORGIA!!!!

[Recoil]

HOW BOUT THEM DAWGS???

PISS ON 'EM
PISS ON 'EM

[Young Drachma]

ESPN - Florida State safety Myron Rolle to accept his Rhodes Scholarship

Myron Rolle is going to accept the Rhodes and bypass his last year of eligibility. He hasn't decided whether he'll go to the combine yet.

[Vegas Vic]

I'm still scratching my head at Mack Brown's Gatorade bath after Texas beat 35 point underdog Texas A&M 49-9.

Well, let's see -- last week OU beat the #2 ranked team in the country 65-21, and the fans didn't rush the field, the goal posts didn't come down, and there was no Gatorade bath. Tonight, they went on the road and beat the #12 ranked team by 20 points, and there was no Gatorade bath after the game.

[Radii]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Recoil just reminded me ... what's the good word again?

TO HELL WITH GEORGIA

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

As of right now what're the BCS bowls gonna look like?

Rose - USC vs OSU

You meant PSU right?

[DeToxRox]

Originally Posted by Matthean

You meant PSU right?

Yeah, my bad.

I was just assuming BCS blowout, so OSU automatically comes to mind.

[digamma]

Originally Posted by Recoil

Michael Johnson will go down as one of my all time favorite GT players. Just does everything the right way. He lost his grandmother this week, so in addition to being extremely proud to have him in white and gold, my thoughts and prayers go out to his family.

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

ESPN - Florida State safety Myron Rolle to accept his Rhodes Scholarship

Myron Rolle is going to accept the Rhodes and bypass his last year of eligibility. He hasn't decided whether he'll go to the combine yet.

Awesome story.

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Awesome story.

agree 100%

Originally Posted by Vegas Vic

I'm still scratching my head at Mack Brown's Gatorade bath after Texas beat 35 point underdog Texas A&M 49-9.

Well, let's see -- last week OU beat the #2 ranked team in the country 65-21, and the fans didn't rush the field, the goal posts didn't come down, and there was no Gatorade bath. Tonight, they went on the road and beat the #12 ranked team by 20 points, and there was no Gatorade bath after the game.

Pretty simple.
Major Rivalry.
Most of these kids have grown up dreaming of beating aTm since they were 3, regardless of te fact that aTm is relegated to an afterthought these days its still a rival (not unlike USC v ND)

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Yeah, my bad.

I was just assuming BCS blowout, so OSU automatically comes to mind.

What bowl is Michigan going to this year?

[Cap Ologist]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

agree 100%




Pretty simple.
Major Rivalry.
Most of these kids have grown up dreaming of beating aTm since they were 3, regardless of te fact that aTm is relegated to an afterthought these days its still a rival (not unlike USC v ND)

Probably has more to do with Texas A&M beating them the last 2 years. Not quite sure A&M is an afterthought though. McGee has been hurt most of the year, and their backup QB was very raw. They'll be back in a year or two once Sherman gets more talent there.

[digamma]

Texas gains 41 points in the coaches' poll on Oklahoma.

[duckman]

Originally Posted by digamma

Texas gains 41 points in the coaches' poll on Oklahoma.

Yup, they're up on Texas by one point.

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by digamma

Texas gains 41 points in the coaches' poll on Oklahoma.

Originally Posted by duckman

Yup, they're up on Texas by one point.

So which is it, guys? Either Texas gained, or Texas is down by a point. Make up your minds!

[duckman]

Originally Posted by SackAttack

So which is it, guys? Either Texas gained, or Texas is down by a point. Make up your minds!

OU had a 42 point lead in the poll last week. Texas gained 41 points to close the gap to one.

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by duckman

OU had a 42 point lead in the poll last week. Texas gained 41 points to close the gap to one.

Why? Texas beat a bad team while OU had a much more quality win?

[Cuckoo]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Why? Texas beat a bad team while OU had a much more quality win?

Not only that, but Florida lost points to Texas too, after beating Florida State handily on the road. What a system...

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by duckman

OU had a 42 point lead in the poll last week. Texas gained 41 points to close the gap to one.

Will that matter for the BCS?

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Why? Texas beat a bad team while OU had a much more quality win?

OU "escaped." Texas' win was never in doubt. 61-41 looks impressive, and I guess hanging 60 in consecutive weeks on two of the better teams in the Big XII *is* impressive, but that game was closer than the 20 point final margin. It's a subjective thing, but the polls are, in fact, subjective animals.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Why? Texas beat a bad team while OU had a much more quality win?

Because the BCS is a giant pile of crap that needs to be gotten rid of. That's why

SI

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Because the BCS is a giant pile of crap that needs to be gotten rid of. That's why

SI

Also this.

[duckman]

nm

[Cuckoo]

Originally Posted by SackAttack

OU "escaped." Texas' win was never in doubt.

True, but OU played on the road against the 12th ranked team in the nation, a team Texas barely "escaped" in Austin.

I'll say that Texas has a very good argument to be in the Big 12 Championship. They're an excellent team, just as OU is. Somebody is going to get screwed on this one; it's unavoidable. But oh how I dislike the ridiculousness of the process.

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by Cuckoo

True, but OU played on the road against the 12th ranked team in the nation, a team Texas barely "escaped" in Austin.

I'll say that Texas has a very good argument to be in the Big 12 Championship. They're an excellent team, just as OU is. Somebody is going to get screwed on this one; it's unavoidable. But oh how I dislike the ridiculousness of the process.

Just root for whoever gets handed the South title to lose to Missouri. That way the only team getting screwed between the two of them is the one that doesn't get it done on the field, as the other will likely go to a BCS bowl anyway.

[sterlingice]

It really is unfair as both teams are equally worthy and one is going to get screwed. The worst thing about this is that they won't blame the BCS for this debacle, it will fall at the feet of the Big XII despite being in a no-win situation. Ultimately, both of these teams should be in a 12/16 team playoff

SI

[JonInMiddleGA]

Texas increases their margin over OU in the AP poll as well, from 4 to 8.

This week vs last week
Bama 1620 vs 1622 (-2)
Florida 1516 vs 1512 (+4)
Texas 1488 vs 1482 (+6)
OU 1489 vs 1486 (+3)
USC 1355 vs 1352 (+3)

edit to add: Interesting to notice that there were more points gained in the top five than lost but with ostensibly the same number of voters (same total of #1's at least), so those points had to come from somewhere. Let's see where they might have been.

Penn State 1257 vs 1238 (+19)
Utah 1216 vs 1206 (-10)
Tx Tech 1197 vs 1212 (-15)
Boise 1103 vs 1064 (+39)
Ohio State 1069 vs 1043 (+26)
TCU 885 vs 750 (+135)
Ball St 834 vs 731 (+103)
Cincy 824 vs 640 (+184)
Oklahoma State 798 vs 997 (-199)
Ga Tech 708 vs 339 +(369)
Oregon 630 vs 320 (+310)
Georgia 495 vs 874 (-379)
BC 482 vs 309 (+173)
Mizzou 479 vs 917 (-438)

Looks to me as though 1 or 2 voters had Utah & Tx Tech in their top six ahead of Texas and dropping them down helped Texas more than it helped OU, along with probably a vote shifting Texas ahead of OU.

[Cuckoo]

Originally Posted by SackAttack

Just root for whoever gets handed the South title to lose to Missouri. That way the only team getting screwed between the two of them is the one that doesn't get it done on the field, as the other will likely go to a BCS bowl anyway.

Definitely a possibility. Mizzou has had a rough year (against their expectations certainly), and it'll be interesting to see how they come out in that game. On the one hand, they could be dispassionate. But maybe not having the pressure they had in last year's Championship game could allow them to play loose. They certainly have the talent to make it quite a game, particularly in KC.

[Vegas Vic]

It's ridiculous that a team loses votes after going on the road as a 7 point favorite and beating the #12 ranked team by 20 points. No other team in the Big XII South went on the road and beat a ranked divisional opponent.

[Buccaneer]

So if being "subjective" is bad, then we let only the computer polls decide? They've already played on the field. Somehow you got to decide the champion of the division, how else are you going to do it? Since you cannot come up with a good comparative tie-breaking system like in the NFL (i.e., far less commonalities), you got to make up something - whether a division winner or picking those for a playoffs.

[Noop]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

ESPN - Florida State safety Myron Rolle to accept his Rhodes Scholarship

Myron Rolle is going to accept the Rhodes and bypass his last year of eligibility. He hasn't decided whether he'll go to the combine yet.

Addition by subtraction.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Vegas Vic

It's ridiculous that a team loses votes after going on the road as a 7 point favorite and beating the #12 ranked team by 20 points. No other team in the Big XII South went on the road and beat a ranked divisional opponent.

Florida also lost points while beating a ranked FSU.

USA Today this week vs last week
Alabama (58/56) 1521 vs 1518 (+3)
Oklahoma (2/4)1397 vs 1412 (-15)
Texas 1396 vs 1370 (+26)
Florida (1/1) 1385 vs 1401 (-16)
USC 1298 vs 1288 (+10)
Penn St 1176 vs 1157 (+19)
Utah 1153 vs 1153 (n/c)
Tx Tech 1116 vs 1073 (+43)
Boise 1044 vs 1033 (+11)
Ohio State 999 vs 994 (+5)

The big outlier here is obvious, how on earth did Texas Tech gain 43 points this week in spite of their struggle? Unless several voters ranked them well below the top 10 after their loss & then made a correction this week, then it would seem likely that several voters almost had to move them back ahead of Oklahoma, Florida, or even both. Otherwise, the gain had to come from them jumping back over both Oklahoma State & Mizzou on something like half of the ballots (which doesn't seem possible since overall they were still ranked ahead of both of them)

[Noop]

I hope Texas goes to the Big 12 title game.

[TCY Junkie]

Originally Posted by Vegas Vic

It's ridiculous that a team loses votes after going on the road as a 7 point favorite and beating the #12 ranked team by 20 points. No other team in the Big XII South went on the road and beat a ranked divisional opponent.

I thought the line was too high. OKST is hard to beat at home. I thought any victory would increase votes. The line on the UT OKST game was off too in my opinion. I would type more but the polls wouldn't change no matter what I say.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by Noop

Addition by subtraction.

Yes, good to have him off the team so there can be more spots for players who brawl on campus.

[DeToxRox]

Originally Posted by Logan

Yes, good to have him off the team so there can be more spots for players who brawl on campus.

Seriously. Now FSU has to go find more tutors to take tests and write papers for them.

[Noop]

Originally Posted by Logan

Yes, good to have him off the team so there can be more spots for players who brawl on campus.

What are you fucking stupid? Rolle was a liability in our secondary, his academic accomplishments are nice. As for brawling I suggest you read that police report because that whole thing was crap.

[Noop]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Seriously. Now FSU has to go find more tutors to take tests and write papers for them.

??? Glasshouse my friend, glasshouse.

[DeToxRox]

Originally Posted by Noop

What are you fucking stupid? Rolle was a liability in our secondary, his academic accomplishments are nice. As for brawling I suggest you read that police report because that whole thing was crap.

Well when you run the tight ship Bowden has run over the years, generally these kind of things lend some credence.

[sooner333]

It will be interesting to see what happens. I'm not too hopeful for OU, but maybe I'm setting myself to not feel as bad if they don't make it. Either way, at least one team that has a very good argument to go doesn't get to go play for the conference championship.

I would like to see Mack Brown's ballot, just for fun.

[RedKingGold]

Originally Posted by Noop

What are you fucking stupid? Rolle was a liability in our secondary, his academic accomplishments are nice. As for brawling I suggest you read that police report because that whole thing was crap.

Statements like this are what make me dislike the college football fan.

[Cuckoo]

Originally Posted by sooner333

I would like to see Mack Brown's ballot, just for fun.

He has Texas ahead of OU certainly, but I don't see him as the type to do something ridiculous with it. Now, there are plenty of other coaches that I can't say the same thing about.

Edit: Looks like Stoops has called a 4pm presser today. I'm curious as heck about that, wondering if it's about the BCS stuff or if it's to announce one of the assistants has been hired elsewhere.

[Noop]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Well when you run the tight ship Bowden has run over the years, generally these kind of things lend some credence.

I was originally talking about his play on the field and this turns into a FSU is a rogue program thing? I could careless about Bowden and his cohorts, Rolle is not a good player. Anyone who has watched FSU play will tell you he should be a LB and not a safety.

[DeToxRox]

Here is a question .. I know it's done geographically but can't the Big 12 realign these divisions? It's always UT and OU who're going to be the favorites every year, and it makes no sense they're in the same division. I liken it to the Big 10 adding a 12th team and having a title game and putting UM and OSU in the same division.

Yeah obviously it is probably a bad idea because you're basing it around two teams, but still.

[Noop]

Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Statements like this are what make me dislike the college football fan.

Another strange comment. So I should ignore the fact that he has been toast for three seasons at Florida State and pretend that all is rosy and gold. Sorry buddy, I respect what he has done in the classroom but his effort on the field left alot to be desired.