2009 MLB Regular Season Thread - Page 64

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 07-20-2009, 08:18 PM

The Braves offense shows up for Tommy.

Crapshoot · 07-20-2009, 08:24 PM

Giants bullpen starts its regression to the mean....

JonInMiddleGA · 07-20-2009, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

The Braves offense shows up for Tommy.

Good thing Diaz screwed up the two bunt attempts

stevew · 07-20-2009, 10:41 PM

Stay classy Brewers

Prince Fielder better go down tomorrow

I guess Karstens did deserve it.

stevew · 07-20-2009, 11:12 PM

Finally a win against the Brewers.

Garrett Jones hit his 8th solo homer in 15 games.

RedKingGold · 07-21-2009, 06:48 AM

Phils win 9 in a row, NL East race might be over in August.

Unfortunately, I think this also means the Holladay race is over as well.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 07-21-2009, 07:34 AM

Jose Guillen going off again, but it's a bit different than previous episodes.......

Guillen: `I suck’ and am `embarrassed by the money I’m making’ - Kansas City Star

Logan · 07-21-2009, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Stay classy Brewers

Prince Fielder better go down tomorrow

I guess Karstens did deserve it.

How do all of these sentences make sense together?

DaddyTorgo · 07-21-2009, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Jose Guillen going off again, but it's a bit different than previous episodes.......

Guillen: `I suck’ and am `embarrassed by the money I’m making’ - Kansas City Star

Know what though? Kudos to him (and David Ortiz earlier this year) for both being like "yeah I suck right now."

Love this quote: “Sometimes, I feel I should take money out of my own pocket and buy tickets for every fan. Because you know what? For a $12 million man, these are not the numbers you should be expecting. I admit it. I’m not playing to my potential.”

lordscarlet · 07-21-2009, 12:17 PM

JonInMiddleGA · 07-21-2009, 07:04 PM

I know it's been discussed here already but Kung Fu Panda really is the best baseball nickname in quite a while.

Dr. Sak · 07-21-2009, 09:47 PM

Walk off Winner for Werth! Phils win 10 in a row. What makes it even better is that he hit it off of Notre Dame grad Jeff Samardzija. Stupid Domer!

RedKingGold · 07-21-2009, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

Walk off Winner for Werth! Phils win 10 in a row. What makes it even better is that he hit it off of Notre Dame grad Jeff Samardzija. Stupid Domer!

+1,000,000!

DaddyTorgo · 07-21-2009, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

+1,000,000!

+10,000,000

Big Fo · 07-21-2009, 09:59 PM

Time to bookmark the wild card standings I'm afraid.

johnnyshaka · 07-21-2009, 10:02 PM

Bora$ has got to be one of the most evil men in sports...no?

Rumour has it Strasburg will be not be signing with the Nationals before the deadline next month. What a joke.

hxxp://masnsports.com/2009/07/nats-wont-sign-strasburg.html

EagleFan · 07-21-2009, 10:06 PM

Great game tonight. Park has impressed the hell out of me recently. After he looked like he was cooked early in the season he has been doing GREAT out of the pen recently.

DaddyTorgo · 07-21-2009, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyshaka

Bora$ has got to be one of the most evil men in sports...no?

Rumour has it Strasburg will be not be signing with the Nationals before the deadline next month. What a joke.

hxxp://masnsports.com/2009/07/nats-wont-sign-strasburg.html

that's so frigging obnoxious

DaddyTorgo · 07-21-2009, 10:08 PM

dola - doesn't sound like the Nats are actually negotiating in good faith though.

Gomez, citing a source close to the negotiations, said the Nationals have had ongoing dialog with Strasburg's advisor Scott Boras, but they have made no offer other than the mandatory minor league tender that all clubs must make to their picks within 10 days of the draft. That is a standard minor league deal that pays the player $1,000 per month but does not include any bonus money.

RedKingGold · 07-21-2009, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Great game tonight. Park has impressed the hell out of me recently. After he looked like he was cooked early in the season he has been doing GREAT out of the pen recently.

IIRC, he was effective in the same role with the Dodgers last year. Putting him as a starter is just not his thing, though.

JeeberD · 07-21-2009, 10:13 PM

Another series win for the Astros. They've won 11 out of the last 14 series they've played (not counting the split against the Dodgers)...

Hopefully Roy can complete the sweep tomorrow against Carpenter. We've only swept one series all season and that was back in early May...

kingfc22 · 07-21-2009, 11:05 PM

This roadtrip needs to end NOW

bhlloy · 07-22-2009, 12:19 AM

If the Nats really won't pay Strasburg and he goes unsigned, wow. What is the record # of years for a franchise moving/being contracted after moving once already?

And I'm not saying that he's necessarily worth the money or the hype. But once you take him at #1 with the Boras factor, you have to be willing to get it done.

Let's hope this is a brilliant ploy, but I really don't think you can pull this on Boras. He doesn't care what people think about him or his clients.

johnnyshaka · 07-22-2009, 12:27 AM

That's what pisses me off more than anything...the last place team should get the best player at the draft...not the most signable. And having to worry about the player's agent is ridiculous. There is enough risk in the draft why does an agent have come into play?

Argh.

DaddyTorgo · 07-22-2009, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by johnnyshaka

That's what pisses me off more than anything...the last place team should get the best player at the draft...not the most signable. And having to worry about the player's agent is ridiculous. There is enough risk in the draft why does an agent have come into play?

Argh.

I agree 100%.

I mean at this point why bother with the draft anyway. If people slip due to signability concerns you might as well do away with the draft completely and just make everyone a UFA and let the big-money teams skip the farce of having a draft (says a fan of a big-money team)

k0ruptr · 07-22-2009, 03:10 AM

Rumor is the Chisox made an offer for Halladay as well and got shot down.

SackAttack · 07-22-2009, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by k0ruptr

Rumor is the Chisox made an offer for Halladay as well and got shot down.

By whom? Toronto, or Halladay?

k0ruptr · 07-22-2009, 03:59 AM

lol, well played

Karlifornia · 07-22-2009, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

This roadtrip needs to end NOW

Yeah. This has been absolutely ugly so far. If they can't win with Lincecum going tomorrow, then I'll start to get rather worried.

k0ruptr · 07-22-2009, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Karlifornia

Yeah. This has been absolutely ugly so far. If they can't win with Lincecum going tomorrow, then I'll start to get rather worried.

In his short career, he has more wins against the braves then any other team so he's either gonna get a win, or hes due for a loss

Mizzou B-ball fan · 07-22-2009, 07:42 AM

I don't think it's a surprise that 4 of the losses during the Royals current 8 game losing streak belong to Chen and Ponson. Our rotation falls off significantly on the bottom end. Need a couple more prospects to hurry up. Greinke, Bannister, and Hochevar all look solid at this point.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 07-22-2009, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Hochevar ... solid

Again with this? He's had some good starts, but solid?

lordscarlet · 07-22-2009, 08:11 AM

Now THAT'S the team I want the Nationals to be. Perhaps when there is more than one pitcher with a full MLB year under his belt they can get a win more than every fifth game.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 07-22-2009, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

Again with this? He's had some good starts, but solid?

Well, here's the numbers since his return from the minors. Note that the Royals have gone 19-45 during the stretch where he put up these numbers, including 5 wins from him..........

8 starts
5-1 record
52.0 innings pitched
3.81 ERA
1.13 WHIP
2.46/1 K/BB ratio

His ERA has dropped from nearly 11 to 5.09 over the course of two months. It's only two months, but that's more like what was expected from this guy as a 1st round pick. The Royals will take these kinds of numbers anyday from one of their starters.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 07-22-2009, 11:09 AM

I suppose we'll see. I wouldn't be surprised to see the guy go 4IP 6ER next time out, so it's hard for me to see that as "solid".

Brad Penny had this stretch this season..................

11 starts
63.2 innings pitched
3.68 ERA
1.35 WHIP
3.25 K/BB ratio.

And I would never use "solid" to describe my feelings for Penny. Holding my breath would be more accurate.

It remains to be seen is Hochevar is having a good stretch, or if he's turned the corner.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 07-22-2009, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

And I would never use "solid" to describe my feelings for Penny. Holding my breath would be more accurate.

Royals fans along with many other teams would be happy to 'hold their breath' for Brad Penny. That's not holding your breath. When you have Sir Sidney Ponson and Bruce Chen in your rotation, you're doing more than holding your breath. You're turning blue in the face at that point.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 07-22-2009, 11:31 AM

Ok, I'll buy that Hochevar is "relatively solid".

stevew · 07-22-2009, 12:24 PM

Looks like Adam LaDouche got traded to the Red Sox for two scrubby prospects.

If Adam's hot, he can carry a team for a week or two per season. Otherwise he's so damned inconsistent.

stevew · 07-22-2009, 12:26 PM

dola-
Garrett Jones with his 9th solo homer of the year in like 18 games.

ISiddiqui · 07-22-2009, 12:29 PM

Well, LaRoche has an OPS+ of 108 this year, so it's more than just a week or two it seems.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 07-22-2009, 12:33 PM

I'm hoping that LaRoche's second half splits continue this year, otherwise he's just a marginal improvement over Kotsay.

stevew · 07-22-2009, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Well, LaRoche has an OPS+ of 108 this year, so it's more than just a week or two it seems.

I'm talking like he would be our only offense for a week or two at a time. Then he'll go into these very nice slumps.

He'll bat 7th or so on the Sox, he was our cleanup hitter.

Basically LaDouche is a crazy chick.....when it's good it's really good. If it's bad, run for your life.

DaddyTorgo · 07-22-2009, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevew

I'm talking like he would be our only offense for a week or two at a time. Then he'll go into these very nice slumps.

He'll bat 7th or so on the Sox, he was our cleanup hitter.

Basically LaDouche is a crazy chick.....when it's good it's really good. If it's bad, run for your life.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 07-22-2009, 12:45 PM

re: scrubby prospects

Argenis Diaz is a wizard with the glove, but has no bat. Don't know anything about the other guy.

Logan · 07-22-2009, 01:03 PM

You know the Mets are in bad shape when, as a fan, you see an ESPN headline of "Report: Mets exec dares prospects to fight him" and not only are you not surprised that it took place, but you don't even need a half of a second of thinking to know that it's Tony Bernazard and that this is the guy who Minaya relies on more than any other.

johnnyshaka · 07-22-2009, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

dola-
Garrett Jones with his 9th solo homer of the year in like 18 games.

Pfft...and he's got a grand total of 11 RBI...WTF? Is he anti-clutch or what??

BishopMVP · 07-22-2009, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Looks like Adam LaDouche got traded to the Red Sox for two scrubby prospects.

Argenis Diaz is a guy I've always liked, but he's become expendable with the SS depth behind him in the system now that Iglesias is signed. Basically Jack Wilson, except he'll be making league minimum instead of $6 million a year. Great range as a fielder, has struggled with consistency on the easy plays but that may have been complacency, not much of a bat, some decent speed. Hunter Strickland isn't a name, but he was regarded as a sleeper by some front office people, partially because of his great makeup. Would have been relegated to a bullpen role in Boston, but maybe Pittsburgh will try to keep him as a starter now.

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

I'm hoping that LaRoche's second half splits continue this year, otherwise he's just a marginal improvement over Kotsay.

He also has pretty big L/R splits and could slide into a platoon with Lowell.

JonInMiddleGA · 07-22-2009, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyshaka

Pfft...and he's got a grand total of 11 RBI...WTF? Is he anti-clutch or what??

I know you were kidding but that stat line did make me curious.

Coming into today, he's 0-14 with RISP, but he's walked four times and scored all four. He's hitting .400 with nobody on base (16-40) and .087 (2-23) with anybody on base. That is pretty much anti-clutch.

EagleFan · 07-22-2009, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I know you were kidding but that stat line did make me curious.

Coming into today, he's 0-14 with RISP, but he's walked four times and scored all four. He's hitting .400 with nobody on base (16-40) and .087 (2-23) with anybody on base. That is pretty much anti-clutch.

I guess the way to pitch to him is to intentionally walk the guy in front of him.

stevew · 07-22-2009, 02:44 PM

Feels so fuckin good to take 2 of 3 from the Brewers.

07-20-2009, 08:18 PM	#3151
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07-21-2009, 12:17 PM	#3160
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07-21-2009, 07:04 PM	#3161
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07-21-2009, 10:08 PM	#3169
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	dola - doesn't sound like the Nats are actually negotiating in good faith though. Gomez, citing a source close to the negotiations, said the Nationals have had ongoing dialog with Strasburg's advisor Scott Boras, but they have made no offer other than the mandatory minor league tender that all clubs must make to their picks within 10 days of the draft. That is a standard minor league deal that pays the player $1,000 per month but does not include any bonus money. __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

07-21-2009, 10:13 PM	#3171
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Another series win for the Astros. They've won 11 out of the last 14 series they've played (not counting the split against the Dodgers)... Hopefully Roy can complete the sweep tomorrow against Carpenter. We've only swept one series all season and that was back in early May... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

07-20-2009, 08:24 PM	#3152
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	Giants bullpen starts its regression to the mean....

07-20-2009, 10:41 PM	#3154
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Stay classy Brewers Prince Fielder better go down tomorrow I guess Karstens did deserve it.

07-20-2009, 11:12 PM	#3155
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Finally a win against the Brewers. Garrett Jones hit his 8th solo homer in 15 games.

07-21-2009, 06:48 AM	#3156
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	Phils win 9 in a row, NL East race might be over in August. Unfortunately, I think this also means the Holladay race is over as well.

07-21-2009, 07:34 AM	#3157
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	Jose Guillen going off again, but it's a bit different than previous episodes....... Guillen: `I suck’ and am `embarrassed by the money I’m making’ - Kansas City Star

07-21-2009, 09:47 PM	#3162
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Walk off Winner for Werth! Phils win 10 in a row. What makes it even better is that he hit it off of Notre Dame grad Jeff Samardzija. Stupid Domer!

07-21-2009, 09:59 PM	#3165
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	Time to bookmark the wild card standings I'm afraid.

07-21-2009, 10:02 PM	#3166
johnnyshaka College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Edmonton, AB	Bora$ has got to be one of the most evil men in sports...no? Rumour has it Strasburg will be not be signing with the Nationals before the deadline next month. What a joke. hxxp://masnsports.com/2009/07/nats-wont-sign-strasburg.html

07-21-2009, 10:06 PM	#3167
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Great game tonight. Park has impressed the hell out of me recently. After he looked like he was cooked early in the season he has been doing GREAT out of the pen recently.

07-21-2009, 11:05 PM	#3172
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	This roadtrip needs to end NOW __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

07-22-2009, 12:19 AM	#3173
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	If the Nats really won't pay Strasburg and he goes unsigned, wow. What is the record # of years for a franchise moving/being contracted after moving once already? And I'm not saying that he's necessarily worth the money or the hype. But once you take him at #1 with the Boras factor, you have to be willing to get it done. Let's hope this is a brilliant ploy, but I really don't think you can pull this on Boras. He doesn't care what people think about him or his clients.

07-22-2009, 12:27 AM	#3174
johnnyshaka College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Edmonton, AB	That's what pisses me off more than anything...the last place team should get the best player at the draft...not the most signable. And having to worry about the player's agent is ridiculous. There is enough risk in the draft why does an agent have come into play? Argh.

07-22-2009, 03:10 AM	#3176
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	Rumor is the Chisox made an offer for Halladay as well and got shot down.

07-22-2009, 03:59 AM	#3178
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	lol, well played

07-22-2009, 07:42 AM	#3181
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	I don't think it's a surprise that 4 of the losses during the Royals current 8 game losing streak belong to Chen and Ponson. Our rotation falls off significantly on the bottom end. Need a couple more prospects to hurry up. Greinke, Bannister, and Hochevar all look solid at this point.

07-22-2009, 08:11 AM	#3183
lordscarlet Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Washington, DC	Now THAT'S the team I want the Nationals to be. Perhaps when there is more than one pitcher with a full MLB year under his belt they can get a win more than every fifth game. __________________ Sixteen Colors ANSI/ASCII Art Archive "...the better half of the Moores..." -cthomer5000

07-22-2009, 11:09 AM	#3185
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	I suppose we'll see. I wouldn't be surprised to see the guy go 4IP 6ER next time out, so it's hard for me to see that as "solid". Brad Penny had this stretch this season.................. 11 starts 63.2 innings pitched 3.68 ERA 1.35 WHIP 3.25 K/BB ratio. And I would never use "solid" to describe my feelings for Penny. Holding my breath would be more accurate. It remains to be seen is Hochevar is having a good stretch, or if he's turned the corner. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

07-22-2009, 11:31 AM	#3187
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	Ok, I'll buy that Hochevar is "relatively solid". __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

07-22-2009, 12:24 PM	#3188
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Looks like Adam LaDouche got traded to the Red Sox for two scrubby prospects. If Adam's hot, he can carry a team for a week or two per season. Otherwise he's so damned inconsistent.

07-22-2009, 12:26 PM	#3189
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	dola- Garrett Jones with his 9th solo homer of the year in like 18 games.

07-22-2009, 12:29 PM	#3190
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Well, LaRoche has an OPS+ of 108 this year, so it's more than just a week or two it seems. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

07-22-2009, 12:33 PM	#3191
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	I'm hoping that LaRoche's second half splits continue this year, otherwise he's just a marginal improvement over Kotsay. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

07-22-2009, 12:45 PM	#3194
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	re: scrubby prospects Argenis Diaz is a wizard with the glove, but has no bat. Don't know anything about the other guy. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

07-22-2009, 01:03 PM	#3195
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	You know the Mets are in bad shape when, as a fan, you see an ESPN headline of "Report: Mets exec dares prospects to fight him" and not only are you not surprised that it took place, but you don't even need a half of a second of thinking to know that it's Tony Bernazard and that this is the guy who Minaya relies on more than any other.

07-22-2009, 02:44 PM	#3200
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Feels so fuckin good to take 2 of 3 from the Brewers.

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