*World Cup Game Discussion Thread* (SPOILERS) - Page 64

Vinatieri for Prez · 07-05-2006, 03:31 AM

That sucks. Was pulling for Germany all tournament. Great game. Germany had their chances. Schneider blasting it just over the bar was the best chance. Really thought the Italians faking injuries to stop German counterattacks was pathetic and poor sportmanship at its worst. Just can't cheer for them after that. Amazing game winner. Came as a complete shock because I was already set for penalties. Can't really blame Germany defense on that one. Schweinsteiger probably should have stuck with Grosso, but that goal was all Pirlo. Everyone thought he was going to shoot, and hence the Germans all ran out to him to close him down/block the shot, including Schweinsteiger. Then Pirlo makes a great pass, and then a wonderful curling shot. With all the critique of the German defense before and during the tournament, I'd still have to say they outperformed 95% of the other teams' defenders. Got a young team, so I think German will be primed for Euro 2008. Hopefully, Klinsmann stays on.

All in all, even game with Italians showing a little more offensive imagination (and I mean that in more ways than one).

ISiddiqui · 07-05-2006, 07:33 AM

Let's go France

. I've been pulling for France since they beat Spain. I'd love to see Zidane go out on top. He's an all time great who deserves a final hurrah... and they knocked off the Brazilians, who played like the trophy was supposed to be gifted to them, so yay for the French!

Zone · 07-05-2006, 08:52 AM

Faking injuries and diving????
I only saw one player fake getting hit in the face and that was Totti, who is a disgrace. Other than that the injuries seemed legit. Grosso gets a knee to the head; Perrotta almost gets his head taken off by Lehmann, to name a few. I didn’t see much if any diving by either team.

The BBC commentaries are praising the game and the Italians for their play in the World Cup.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...06/5150248.stm

Espn seems to think it was just a big diving event lead by Germany's Michael Ballack.
Does this reporter actually know anything about the sport?

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/report?id=191978&cc=5901

It was the best game of the World Cup with the players giving it their all and the referee letting them play. We need more soccer games like this.

fantastic flying froggies · 07-05-2006, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbmagic

Viva Italy
Viva Italy

Hmm, are you sure you're Italian?

I've always heard Italians yell "Forza Italia!"

Fighter of Foo · 07-05-2006, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jari Rantanen's Shorts

Fantastic game - played in the right spirit, both teams wanted to attack, but there was everything in the game: good attacking, good midfield play, good (excellent) defending and good keeping.

And as someone said above, great refereeing: a couple of Italians and a couple of Germans started rolling around early doors, but no cards, and for the majority of the game there were very little histrionics.

Italians always just edged the game for me - more skilful generally, more composed. Fantastic stuff.

Fully agreed. And the referee was excellent as well. Let's hope for the same type of game/atmosphere today.

kingfc22 · 07-05-2006, 11:57 AM

If the final ends up being Portugal vs. Italy, then we need to get more officials.

I think the East German judge and the Russian judge might be a little shady so if they are giving out 9.5's while other judges are handing out 8.9's then you know something is up.

FrogMan · 07-05-2006, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fantastic flying froggies

Hmm, are you sure you're Italian?

I've always heard Italians yell "Forza Italia!"

what, you don't cheer France by saying "GO THE BLUES!!!!"

FM

MrBug708 · 07-05-2006, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zone

Faking injuries and diving????
I only saw one player fake getting hit in the face and that was Totti, who is a disgrace. Other than that the injuries seemed legit. Grosso gets a knee to the head; Perrotta almost gets his head taken off by Lehmann, to name a few. I didn’t see much if any diving by either team.

The BBC commentaries are praising the game and the Italians for their play in the World Cup.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...06/5150248.stm

Espn seems to think it was just a big diving event lead by Germany's Michael Ballack.
Does this reporter actually know anything about the sport?

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/report?id=191978&cc=5901

It was the best game of the World Cup with the players giving it their all and the referee letting them play. We need more soccer games like this.

Didnt an Italian player get hit with a card for diving?

rexallllsc · 07-05-2006, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zone

Faking injuries and diving????
I only saw one player fake getting hit in the face and that was Totti, who is a disgrace. Other than that the injuries seemed legit. Grosso gets a knee to the head; Perrotta almost gets his head taken off by Lehmann, to name a few. I didn’t see much if any diving by either team.

The BBC commentaries are praising the game and the Italians for their play in the World Cup.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...06/5150248.stm

Espn seems to think it was just a big diving event lead by Germany's Michael Ballack.
Does this reporter actually know anything about the sport?

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/report?id=191978&cc=5901

It was the best game of the World Cup with the players giving it their all and the referee letting them play. We need more soccer games like this.

Mazeratti had two pretty blantant dives, Totti was diving, and I thought Grosso was going to rip the hair out of his head after he got hit.

Italy's team is a disgrace.

AlexB · 07-05-2006, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rexallllsc

Mazeratti had two pretty blantant dives, Totti was diving, and I thought Grosso was going to rip the hair out of his head after he got hit.

Italy's team was a disgrace against the US team, and a couple of other games. However last night they weren't too bad, and only Totti rivalled Ballack or Podolski. I'm pissed they beat the US.

Fixed.

BTW nothing wrong with that - I want France to beat Portugal tonihgt for exactly the same reasons

ISiddiqui · 07-05-2006, 12:37 PM

To be fair to Grosso, he was kneed in the back of the head. That has to hurt like a bitch!

rexallllsc · 07-05-2006, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

To be fair to Grosso, he was kneed in the back of the head. That has to hurt like a bitch!

I can't believe he could continue - and score the winning goal with such a serious head wound. You saw that he was obviously demented - he was trying to pull his own hair out!

Fighter of Foo · 07-05-2006, 01:40 PM

Kickoff in 25 Minutes or so...ESPN360 for those stuck at work.

Deco and Costinha back in for Portugal from the lineup that started vs. England, replacing Petit and Tiago. No changes for France.

Portugal (4-5-1): 1-Ricardo; 13-Miguel, 16-Ricardo Carvalho, 5-Fernando Meira, 14-Nuno Valente; 6-Costinha, 18-Maniche, 20-Deco, 7-Luis Figo, 17-Cristiano Ronaldo; 9-Pauleta

Coach: Luiz Felipe Scolari

France (4-2-3-1):
16-Fabien Barthez; 19-Willy Sagnol, 15-Lilian Thuram, 5-William Gallas, 3-Eric Abidal; 4-Patrick Vieira, 6-Claude Makelele; 22-Franck Ribery, 10-Zinedine Zidane, 7-Florent Malouda; 12-Thierry Henry

Coach: Raymond Domenech

Referee: Jorge Larrionda (Uruguay) Linesmen: Walter Rial (Uruguay), Pablo Fandino (Uruguay)

MJ4H · 07-05-2006, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jari Rantanen's Shorts

I'm pissed they beat the US

are you sure that wasn't a draw?

kingfc22 · 07-05-2006, 01:57 PM

Let's go France!!!

SirFozzie · 07-05-2006, 02:26 PM

Hate France just slightly less then I hate the Divers of Portugal

kingfc22 · 07-05-2006, 02:28 PM

Great superman pose by Deco a few moments ago. I'll give him a 7.5 for the effort.

kingfc22 · 07-05-2006, 02:31 PM

Penalty!!!

kingfc22 · 07-05-2006, 02:33 PM

Woot. Goal Zidane.

Can't wait to see the Portuguese diving team show off their skills any time they get in the box from here on out.

Celeval · 07-05-2006, 02:33 PM

Nicely placed by Zidane.

ISiddiqui · 07-05-2006, 02:36 PM

The radio folks seemed to imply that Henry dove or at least sold the foul more than warrented. How true is that look at the foul?

kingfc22 · 07-05-2006, 02:36 PM

LOL!!! Dive #1 - failed

kingfc22 · 07-05-2006, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

The radio folks seemed to imply that Henry dove or at least sold the foul more than warrented. How true is that look at the foul?

Player clearly kicked out his left leg and hit Henry's leg as he was about to go past him.

Celeval · 07-05-2006, 02:38 PM

One view - the first - of Henry's looked like it was a dive, but other angles show the defender clearly got his leg.

Ronaldo's attempt was a pretty clear dive, wow.

FrogMan · 07-05-2006, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celeval

Ronaldo's attempt was a pretty clear dive, wow.

on that note, here's the BBC update right after Zidane's goal:

Quote:

36 mins: Portugal's players and fans protest as a penalty claim falls on deaf ears. Cristiano Ronaldo went down like the proverbial swallow as he attempted to climb high and get on the end of Luis Figo's cross. A good deccision by the referee despite the close attention afforded him by Willy Sagnol.

heh

FM

kingfc22 · 07-05-2006, 02:52 PM

If you want some good comedy, then head over to the hattrick WC thread for this game.

fantastic flying froggies · 07-05-2006, 02:53 PM

France suffered in that first half.

Portugal really plays some quick and nice football, if only they stopped diving now and then to try and actually score some goals, they would probably be ahead tonight.

AlexB · 07-05-2006, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattJones4Heisman

are you sure that wasn't a draw?

Meh, a potential WC winner vs. no hopers in group stage, no wonder I can't remember the result

kingfc22 · 07-05-2006, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jari Rantanen's Shorts

Meh, a potential WC winner vs. no hopers in group stage, no wonder I can't remember the result

Eurosnob alert

BreizhManu · 07-05-2006, 03:05 PM

Christiano Ronaldo is amazing...

Desnudo · 07-05-2006, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jari Rantanen's Shorts

Meh, a potential WC winner vs. no hopers in group stage, no wonder I can't remember the result

We can't all hope to demolish world powers like Trinidad and Tobago.

Desnudo · 07-05-2006, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BreizhManu

Christiano Ronaldo is amazing...

I wonder how his teammates feel about him. I'd be thinking "pass the f'ing ball you showpony." There was one play near the end of the first half where three defenders drew to him and all he had to was play a lob pass to the striker for a break-away. Instead he ran into the three defenders. He's like the anti-Rooney.

Desnudo · 07-05-2006, 03:25 PM

Pauleta deserved a card for that dive

kingfc22 · 07-05-2006, 03:36 PM

What was Barthez thinking?

Katon · 07-05-2006, 03:37 PM

Okay, when was the last time a manager did as poor a job as Domenech and made it to the final of a major tournament?

BreizhManu · 07-05-2006, 03:42 PM

Figo is slow...

BreizhManu · 07-05-2006, 03:44 PM

What a great tackle by thuram

BreizhManu · 07-05-2006, 03:45 PM

Saha out of the final (not a big deal)

rexallllsc · 07-05-2006, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desnudo

I wonder how his teammates feel about him. I'd be thinking "pass the f'ing ball you showpony." There was one play near the end of the first half where three defenders drew to him and all he had to was play a lob pass to the striker for a break-away. Instead he ran into the three defenders. He's like the anti-Rooney.

Showboat. He needs to make more out of his creativeness.

As amazing as his moves are, it seems like a rare occasion that they produce.

BreizhManu · 07-05-2006, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BreizhManu

Figo is slow...

... But can still make great moves

BreizhManu · 07-05-2006, 03:53 PM

pfiou

Celeval · 07-05-2006, 03:53 PM

Exciting last few minutes there - I really thought that over-the-shoulder kick by Ricardo was going to set something up for a second.

Katon · 07-05-2006, 03:55 PM

Nice to see the French win - I've been rooting for them since the end of the quarterfinals because of Gallas & Makelele.

Desnudo · 07-05-2006, 03:58 PM

Portugal out thankfully. I don't think I would have watched an Italy-Portugal final.

AlexB · 07-05-2006, 03:59 PM

Gotta love Big Phil's indignation at the ref not falling for any of the Portugese dives

aran · 07-05-2006, 04:01 PM

Portugal seemed like a bunch of babies. I saw at least 3 definite dives in the second half. It also seemed like the ref was missing some moderately obvious calls to both sides. Perhaps he was just gunshy after the US-ITA debacle.

fantastic flying froggies · 07-05-2006, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BreizhManu

What a great tackle by thuram

Thuram = game MVP. He had an outstanding game.

A boring, yet very stressful game...

jbmagic · 07-05-2006, 04:20 PM

Italy will defeat France for the World Cup

Germany will defeat Portugal for 3rd place

MIJB#19 · 07-05-2006, 04:33 PM

Thank the football gods for ending the Portugese 'dreams'. What a disgrace to the game they are. Figo even managed to hand Saha a yellow card to miss the final after Rooneying him.

fantastic flying froggies · 07-05-2006, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIJB#19

Thank the football gods for ending the Portugese 'dreams'. What a disgrace to the game they are. Figo even managed to hand Saha a yellow card to miss the final after Rooneying him.

Amen!

The funniest moment was on a Portuguese cross where both portuguese players in the box dove in different directions without a defender in sight. I thought I was watching some bowling on ESPN there for a second!

07-05-2006, 07:33 AM	#3152
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Let's go France . I've been pulling for France since they beat Spain. I'd love to see Zidane go out on top. He's an all time great who deserves a final hurrah... and they knocked off the Brazilians, who played like the trophy was supposed to be gifted to them, so yay for the French! __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

07-05-2006, 11:57 AM	#3156
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	If the final ends up being Portugal vs. Italy, then we need to get more officials. I think the East German judge and the Russian judge might be a little shady so if they are giving out 9.5's while other judges are handing out 8.9's then you know something is up. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

07-05-2006, 12:37 PM	#3161
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	To be fair to Grosso, he was kneed in the back of the head. That has to hurt like a bitch! __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

07-05-2006, 01:57 PM	#3165
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Let's go France!!! __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

07-05-2006, 02:26 PM	#3166
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Hate France just slightly less then I hate the Divers of Portugal __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

07-05-2006, 03:31 AM	#3151
Vinatieri for Prez College Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle	That sucks. Was pulling for Germany all tournament. Great game. Germany had their chances. Schneider blasting it just over the bar was the best chance. Really thought the Italians faking injuries to stop German counterattacks was pathetic and poor sportmanship at its worst. Just can't cheer for them after that. Amazing game winner. Came as a complete shock because I was already set for penalties. Can't really blame Germany defense on that one. Schweinsteiger probably should have stuck with Grosso, but that goal was all Pirlo. Everyone thought he was going to shoot, and hence the Germans all ran out to him to close him down/block the shot, including Schweinsteiger. Then Pirlo makes a great pass, and then a wonderful curling shot. With all the critique of the German defense before and during the tournament, I'd still have to say they outperformed 95% of the other teams' defenders. Got a young team, so I think German will be primed for Euro 2008. Hopefully, Klinsmann stays on. All in all, even game with Italians showing a little more offensive imagination (and I mean that in more ways than one).

07-05-2006, 08:52 AM	#3153
Zone n00b Join Date: Jan 2005	Faking injuries and diving???? I only saw one player fake getting hit in the face and that was Totti, who is a disgrace. Other than that the injuries seemed legit. Grosso gets a knee to the head; Perrotta almost gets his head taken off by Lehmann, to name a few. I didn’t see much if any diving by either team. The BBC commentaries are praising the game and the Italians for their play in the World Cup. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...06/5150248.stm Espn seems to think it was just a big diving event lead by Germany's Michael Ballack. Does this reporter actually know anything about the sport? http://soccernet.espn.go.com/report?id=191978&cc=5901 It was the best game of the World Cup with the players giving it their all and the referee letting them play. We need more soccer games like this.

07-05-2006, 01:40 PM	#3163
Fighter of Foo College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Boston, MA	Kickoff in 25 Minutes or so...ESPN360 for those stuck at work. Deco and Costinha back in for Portugal from the lineup that started vs. England, replacing Petit and Tiago. No changes for France. Portugal (4-5-1): 1-Ricardo; 13-Miguel, 16-Ricardo Carvalho, 5-Fernando Meira, 14-Nuno Valente; 6-Costinha, 18-Maniche, 20-Deco, 7-Luis Figo, 17-Cristiano Ronaldo; 9-Pauleta Coach: Luiz Felipe Scolari France (4-2-3-1): 16-Fabien Barthez; 19-Willy Sagnol, 15-Lilian Thuram, 5-William Gallas, 3-Eric Abidal; 4-Patrick Vieira, 6-Claude Makelele; 22-Franck Ribery, 10-Zinedine Zidane, 7-Florent Malouda; 12-Thierry Henry Coach: Raymond Domenech Referee: Jorge Larrionda (Uruguay) Linesmen: Walter Rial (Uruguay), Pablo Fandino (Uruguay)

07-05-2006, 02:28 PM	#3167
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Great superman pose by Deco a few moments ago. I'll give him a 7.5 for the effort. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

07-05-2006, 02:31 PM	#3168
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Penalty!!! __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

07-05-2006, 02:33 PM	#3169
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Woot. Goal Zidane. Can't wait to see the Portuguese diving team show off their skills any time they get in the box from here on out. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

07-05-2006, 02:33 PM	#3170
Celeval Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cary, NC, USA	Nicely placed by Zidane.

07-05-2006, 02:36 PM	#3171
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	The radio folks seemed to imply that Henry dove or at least sold the foul more than warrented. How true is that look at the foul? __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

07-05-2006, 02:36 PM	#3172
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	LOL!!! Dive #1 - failed __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

07-05-2006, 02:38 PM	#3174
Celeval Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cary, NC, USA	One view - the first - of Henry's looked like it was a dive, but other angles show the defender clearly got his leg. Ronaldo's attempt was a pretty clear dive, wow.

07-05-2006, 02:52 PM	#3176
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	If you want some good comedy, then head over to the hattrick WC thread for this game. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

07-05-2006, 02:53 PM	#3177
fantastic flying froggies Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sunny South of France	France suffered in that first half. Portugal really plays some quick and nice football, if only they stopped diving now and then to try and actually score some goals, they would probably be ahead tonight. __________________ Detroit Vampires (CFL) : Ve 're coming for your blood! Camargue Flamingos (WOOF): pretty in Pink

07-05-2006, 03:05 PM	#3180
BreizhManu College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Paris, France	Christiano Ronaldo is amazing...

07-05-2006, 03:25 PM	#3183
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	Pauleta deserved a card for that dive Last edited by Desnudo : 07-05-2006 at 03:25 PM.

07-05-2006, 03:36 PM	#3184
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	What was Barthez thinking? __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

07-05-2006, 03:37 PM	#3185
Katon College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Providence, RI	Okay, when was the last time a manager did as poor a job as Domenech and made it to the final of a major tournament?

07-05-2006, 03:42 PM	#3186
BreizhManu College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Paris, France	Figo is slow...

07-05-2006, 03:44 PM	#3187
BreizhManu College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Paris, France	What a great tackle by thuram

07-05-2006, 03:45 PM	#3188
BreizhManu College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Paris, France	Saha out of the final (not a big deal)

07-05-2006, 03:53 PM	#3191
BreizhManu College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Paris, France	pfiou

07-05-2006, 03:53 PM	#3192
Celeval Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cary, NC, USA	Exciting last few minutes there - I really thought that over-the-shoulder kick by Ricardo was going to set something up for a second.

07-05-2006, 03:55 PM	#3193
Katon College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Providence, RI	Nice to see the French win - I've been rooting for them since the end of the quarterfinals because of Gallas & Makelele.

07-05-2006, 03:58 PM	#3194
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	Portugal out thankfully. I don't think I would have watched an Italy-Portugal final.

07-05-2006, 03:59 PM	#3195
AlexB Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Newbury, England	Gotta love Big Phil's indignation at the ref not falling for any of the Portugese dives __________________ 'A song is a beautiful lie', Idlewild, Self Healer. When you're smiling, the whole world smiles with you. Sports!

07-05-2006, 04:01 PM	#3196
aran High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Jersey, USA	Portugal seemed like a bunch of babies. I saw at least 3 definite dives in the second half. It also seemed like the ref was missing some moderately obvious calls to both sides. Perhaps he was just gunshy after the US-ITA debacle.

07-05-2006, 04:20 PM	#3198
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	Italy will defeat France for the World Cup Germany will defeat Portugal for 3rd place

07-05-2006, 04:33 PM	#3199
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	Thank the football gods for ending the Portugese 'dreams'. What a disgrace to the game they are. Figo even managed to hand Saha a yellow card to miss the final after Rooneying him. __________________ * 2005 Golden Scribe winner for best FOF Dynasty about IHOF's Maassluis Merchantmen * Former GM of GEFL's Houston Oilers and WOOF's Curacao Cocktail

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