*World Cup Game Discussion Thread* (SPOILERS) - Page 63

Eaglesfan27 · 07-04-2006, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MacroGuru

Germany vs Italy - Lets get it on!

Yep, this should be a great match. I expect the winner of this to win it all.

GrantDawg · 07-04-2006, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MacroGuru

Germany vs Italy - Lets get to flopping!

Fixed.

Critch · 07-04-2006, 02:59 PM

Good game so far, fair bit of open space.

Good to see the referees finally calling the games properly too, no yellow cards for 75% of the tackles.

MikeVic · 07-04-2006, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Critch

Call the Waaaaaaambulance, the english have found their scapegoat

And it's not Rooney or any of the penalty takers:

hxxp://ihateronaldo.com/

Sorry I missed the game, I always seem to miss the game where they crash out. Missed the one where their last boy wonder lashed out too.

As long as Portugal don't win, I'll be happy now.

Wow. Yeah, blame Ronaldo for the loss. He didn't touch Rooney, just ran in to complain to the ref. Doesn't Rooney have a known temper problem?

Joe · 07-04-2006, 03:14 PM

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Wow. Yeah, blame Ronaldo for the loss. He didn't touch Rooney, just ran in to complain to the ref. Doesn't Rooney have a known temper problem?

He has a known roid rage problem.

rexallllsc · 07-04-2006, 03:15 PM

The Italian players are a disgrace with their diving. Totti and Matterazi esp. today.

rexallllsc · 07-04-2006, 03:21 PM

Don't pull your hair out, Grosso.

Easy Mac · 07-04-2006, 03:22 PM

one of their players got a little knee to the head. I thought he was having a seizure. Of course, Ballack should be playing for the Italians. He might have created some chances if he wasn;t so quick to fall.

Easy Mac · 07-04-2006, 03:36 PM

Noticed:
Not really a man of the match here, no one has looked good.
Lehman needs to work on his distribution, it sucks.
Schneider hasn't been the only problem but he's been useless on the right side of the pitch for Germany.

Critch · 07-04-2006, 03:50 PM

This is one of the best 0-0 games I've seen, but I think an early goal to really open it up could have turned this into a classic.

I'm glad it's gone to extra time just so I get to watch it for a bit longer

cthomer5000 · 07-04-2006, 03:52 PM

I'm really not looking forward to another shootout. Somebody score a goal.

Critch · 07-04-2006, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

I'm really not looking forward to another shootout. Somebody score a goal.

Gilardino almost followed your order straight away there.

Still got a feeling a Lehman mistake will cost the Germans at some point.

MacroGuru · 07-04-2006, 04:11 PM

Is it me or has Germany pretty much looked "winded" the entire match?

MacroGuru · 07-04-2006, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MacroGuru

Is it me or has Germany pretty much looked "winded" the entire match?

Dola, right after I say this, they step it up

Critch · 07-04-2006, 04:26 PM

Watching on Setanta, they're running both a German and Italian commentary.

The German commentator is calm, almost monotone, and quiet a good deal of the time. The Italian commentator talks constantly and gets over-excited at even the slightest chance. So national stereotypes are being upheld.

Flasch186 · 07-04-2006, 04:26 PM

of the games ive been able to watch this is far away the best ref ive seen.

Critch · 07-04-2006, 04:26 PM

1-0 to Italy, no less than they deserve.

Eaglesfan27 · 07-04-2006, 04:26 PM

Very nice goal.

Toddzilla · 07-04-2006, 04:28 PM

GOAL!!!!!!

rexallllsc · 07-04-2006, 04:28 PM

Nice goal!

Surprised Grosso could make that happen though, considering the massive head wound he suffered earlier.

MacroGuru · 07-04-2006, 04:28 PM

2 - 0 ......It's done!!

Critch · 07-04-2006, 04:28 PM

And another very nice goal. 2-0.

Joe · 07-04-2006, 04:28 PM

fuck.

Eaglesfan27 · 07-04-2006, 04:28 PM

Wow. Another great goal. Wonderful shot.

2-0 Italy.

Toddzilla · 07-04-2006, 04:28 PM

Zowie - the internet feed is slow out here - damn storm knocked out the satellite at the 110th minute.

rexallllsc · 07-04-2006, 04:29 PM

I guess I'm rooting for France to take this puppy.

3ric · 07-04-2006, 04:30 PM

I'm happy for Del Piero - he's a class act.

Critch · 07-04-2006, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Toddzilla

Zowie - the internet feed is slow out here - damn storm knocked out the satellite at the 110th minute.

Mine went out from the 85th to the 90th minute. Glad there wasn't a last minute winner, though I did miss Lehman crushing an Italian apparently.

bhlloy · 07-04-2006, 04:33 PM

Well, it took until the semi finals but we finally got a proper refereeing performance. IMO, he handled the game excellently, no ticky-tack yellow cards and no whistle every time somebody fell to the floor. A great job of letting the players play and decide the game.

AlexB · 07-04-2006, 04:39 PM

Fantastic game - played in the right spirit, both teams wanted to attack, but there was everything in the game: good attacking, good midfield play, good (excellent) defending and good keeping.

And as someone said above, great refereeing: a couple of Italians and a couple of Germans started rolling around early doors, but no cards, and for the majority of the game there were very little histrionics.

Italians always just edged the game for me - more skilful generally, more composed. Fantastic stuff.

cthomer5000 · 07-04-2006, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Critch

Gilardino almost followed your order straight away there.

Still got a feeling a Lehman mistake will cost the Germans at some point.

Despite the fact that I was rooting for Germany, I'm happy someone scored a real goal to win this thing. Congrats to Italy and may you lose to France in the final.

aran · 07-04-2006, 04:46 PM

Lehmann was a beast. he grabbed almost every corner except that last one that did Germany in.

ISiddiqui · 07-04-2006, 05:03 PM

Poor Germany

. Both sides played well enough to win. And like someone else said above, I guess I'm rooting for France (and Zidane to lift the trophy in his last game).

Cringer · 07-04-2006, 05:03 PM

That sucked ass.

GoldenEagle · 07-04-2006, 05:17 PM

Does anyone else think the Germans gave up way too much space on the first goal? I mean, I know they were tired but you have to go balls out at the situation.

MacroGuru · 07-04-2006, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

Does anyone else think the Germans gave up way too much space on the first goal? I mean, I know they were tired but you have to go balls out at the situation.

It's what I mean, most of the game, they looked like that to me. They were sluggish compared to the Italians, and they started to pour it on a little at the end of the match, but other than that, Italy just looked a bit better.

thealmighty · 07-04-2006, 06:03 PM

wOOt!!

Critch · 07-04-2006, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MacroGuru

It's what I mean, most of the game, they looked like that to me. They were sluggish compared to the Italians, and they started to pour it on a little at the end of the match, but other than that, Italy just looked a bit better.

Maybe near the end the Germans were feeling the pace after their exertions in the 120 minutes against Argentina, whereas the Italians were coming off a game against Ukraine where they could take it easy for the last 30 mins.

Before the World Cup one of the main hits on the German team (along with inexperience, and supposedly being a one-man team) was that their defense was big and strong but immobile so unsuited to playing a team that tried to pass the ball around. Maybe it was that coming back to hit them too, they'd not been shown up for a slow defense since the Costa Rica game.

Italy deserved the win though, they had most of the good chances. Now I'll be hoping for a France win tomorrow so we can see Del Piero and Zidane both bow out in a World Cup final. A good stage for two of the best players of the last 10 -12 years, even if Del Piero will probably only be on the field for the very end. If Figo and Ronaldo really are injured, France should be a good bet hopefully.

Groundhog · 07-04-2006, 06:44 PM

After the Italy-Australia match I was really hoping that Germany beat Italy by 11 goals to 0.

Oh well, go France/Portugal - at least Italy making the final has given me a team to root against.

Katon · 07-04-2006, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Critch

Italy deserved the win though, they had most of the good chances. Now I'll be hoping for a France win tomorrow so we can see Del Piero and Zidane both bow out in a World Cup final. A good stage for two of the best players of the last 10 -12 years, even if Del Piero will probably only be on the field for the very end.

You rate Del Piero that highly?

BreizhManu · 07-04-2006, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Katon

You rate Del Piero that highly?

"of the best players" is vague, can be the top 20, then yes

top 10 would be harder in my opinion.

Katon · 07-04-2006, 08:57 PM

The "last 10-12 years" bit is also pretty vague - are we talking about players who've been around the whole time? most of the time? some of the time?

In any case, I wouldn't rate Del Piero as one of the best, at least not for most definitions of 'best'. Very good, yes, but his club teams have usually revolved around someone else (Zidane/Nedved), til tonight his record in big games was fairly poor, and apart from maybe 97-98 he never really had a season where he was one of the best in the world.

jbmagic · 07-04-2006, 10:00 PM

Viva Italy
Viva Italy

miami_fan · 07-04-2006, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

Well, it took until the semi finals but we finally got a proper refereeing performance. IMO, he handled the game excellently, no ticky-tack yellow cards and no whistle every time somebody fell to the floor. A great job of letting the players play and decide the game.

I totally agree with you. He should be. Unless the referee tomorrow does a better job, Armando Archundia should be on the pitch on Sunday.

I wonder how the French will be affected by their yellow card situation. Six French players would miss the final if they got a yellow card tomorrow. Common sense says that you have to play for the semi final before you can worry about the finals and in the heat of the game, a guy may take a card if it will prevent a goal. But you have to think that it would be in the back of the minds of those players.

CraigSca · 07-04-2006, 10:03 PM

Ugh. I'm not a fan for any of the final contenders. Guess I'll hope for rain.

GoldenEagle · 07-04-2006, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CraigSca

Ugh. I'm not a fan for any of the final contenders. Guess I'll hope for rain.

I agree with that. I guess I will be pulling for whoever wins the France/Portugal game. I can not stand the Italians.

Critch · 07-04-2006, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Katon

You rate Del Piero that highly?

If I'm being vague enough I do

He's not on a level with Zidane, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo etc, but he's definitely in a fairly small bracket at the top. You don't get 70+ caps for Italy and be a regular for Juve for 13 years if you're not top class.

Katon · 07-04-2006, 11:31 PM

I'd tend to reserve 'the best of X' for guys who had better peaks - Zidane, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, etc - but I don't think we're really disagreeing here. Never the best in the world at his position, but he was in the top 5-10 for over a decade and that's still very impressive. Just depends how broad your definition of 'best' is.

thealmighty · 07-04-2006, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

Viva Italy
Viva Italy

Isn't this like mixing metaphors?

RendeR · 07-05-2006, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CraigSca

Ugh. I'm not a fan for any of the final contenders. Guess I'll hope for rain.

I'd agree with you, but rain would simply give the Italien diving team a much better chance to impress the judges with their full twist double somersault with a back 180 lunge.

07-04-2006, 04:11 PM	#3113
MacroGuru Coordinator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Utah	Is it me or has Germany pretty much looked "winded" the entire match? __________________ "forgetting what is in the past, I strive for the future"

07-04-2006, 04:26 PM	#3116
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	of the games ive been able to watch this is far away the best ref ive seen. __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

07-04-2006, 04:26 PM	#3118
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Very nice goal. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

07-04-2006, 04:28 PM	#3121
MacroGuru Coordinator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Utah	2 - 0 ......It's done!! __________________ "forgetting what is in the past, I strive for the future"

07-04-2006, 04:28 PM	#3124
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Wow. Another great goal. Wonderful shot. 2-0 Italy. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

07-04-2006, 02:59 PM	#3103
Critch lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Herndon, VA	Good game so far, fair bit of open space. Good to see the referees finally calling the games properly too, no yellow cards for 75% of the tackles.

07-04-2006, 03:15 PM	#3106
rexallllsc Banned Join Date: May 2003	The Italian players are a disgrace with their diving. Totti and Matterazi esp. today.

07-04-2006, 03:21 PM	#3107
rexallllsc Banned Join Date: May 2003	Don't pull your hair out, Grosso.

07-04-2006, 03:22 PM	#3108
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	one of their players got a little knee to the head. I thought he was having a seizure. Of course, Ballack should be playing for the Italians. He might have created some chances if he wasn;t so quick to fall.

07-04-2006, 03:36 PM	#3109
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Noticed: Not really a man of the match here, no one has looked good. Lehman needs to work on his distribution, it sucks. Schneider hasn't been the only problem but he's been useless on the right side of the pitch for Germany.

07-04-2006, 03:50 PM	#3110
Critch lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Herndon, VA	This is one of the best 0-0 games I've seen, but I think an early goal to really open it up could have turned this into a classic. I'm glad it's gone to extra time just so I get to watch it for a bit longer

07-04-2006, 04:26 PM	#3115
Critch lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Herndon, VA	Watching on Setanta, they're running both a German and Italian commentary. The German commentator is calm, almost monotone, and quiet a good deal of the time. The Italian commentator talks constantly and gets over-excited at even the slightest chance. So national stereotypes are being upheld.

07-04-2006, 04:26 PM	#3117
Critch lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Herndon, VA	1-0 to Italy, no less than they deserve.

07-04-2006, 04:28 PM	#3119
Toddzilla Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burke, VA	GOAL!!!!!!

07-04-2006, 04:28 PM	#3120
rexallllsc Banned Join Date: May 2003	Nice goal! Surprised Grosso could make that happen though, considering the massive head wound he suffered earlier.

07-04-2006, 04:28 PM	#3122
Critch lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Herndon, VA	And another very nice goal. 2-0.

07-04-2006, 04:28 PM	#3123
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	fuck.

07-04-2006, 04:28 PM	#3125
Toddzilla Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burke, VA	Zowie - the internet feed is slow out here - damn storm knocked out the satellite at the 110th minute.

07-04-2006, 04:29 PM	#3126
rexallllsc Banned Join Date: May 2003	I guess I'm rooting for France to take this puppy.

07-04-2006, 04:30 PM	#3127
3ric College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Sweden	I'm happy for Del Piero - he's a class act. __________________ San Diego Chargers (HFL) - Lappland Reindeers (WOOF) - Gothenburg Giants (IHOF) Indiana: A TCY VC - year 2044 - the longest running dynasty ever on FOFC!

07-04-2006, 04:33 PM	#3129
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Well, it took until the semi finals but we finally got a proper refereeing performance. IMO, he handled the game excellently, no ticky-tack yellow cards and no whistle every time somebody fell to the floor. A great job of letting the players play and decide the game.

07-04-2006, 04:39 PM	#3130
AlexB Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Newbury, England	Fantastic game - played in the right spirit, both teams wanted to attack, but there was everything in the game: good attacking, good midfield play, good (excellent) defending and good keeping. And as someone said above, great refereeing: a couple of Italians and a couple of Germans started rolling around early doors, but no cards, and for the majority of the game there were very little histrionics. Italians always just edged the game for me - more skilful generally, more composed. Fantastic stuff. __________________ 'A song is a beautiful lie', Idlewild, Self Healer. When you're smiling, the whole world smiles with you. Sports!

07-04-2006, 04:46 PM	#3132
aran High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Jersey, USA	Lehmann was a beast. he grabbed almost every corner except that last one that did Germany in.

07-04-2006, 05:03 PM	#3133
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Poor Germany . Both sides played well enough to win. And like someone else said above, I guess I'm rooting for France (and Zidane to lift the trophy in his last game). __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

07-04-2006, 05:03 PM	#3134
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	That sucked ass. __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

07-04-2006, 05:17 PM	#3135
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	Does anyone else think the Germans gave up way too much space on the first goal? I mean, I know they were tired but you have to go balls out at the situation. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

07-04-2006, 06:03 PM	#3137
thealmighty Pro Starter Join Date: May 2003 Location: heaven	wOOt!! __________________ Check out The Unofficial FOFC Movie Guide Here

07-04-2006, 06:44 PM	#3139
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	After the Italy-Australia match I was really hoping that Germany beat Italy by 11 goals to 0. Oh well, go France/Portugal - at least Italy making the final has given me a team to root against. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

07-04-2006, 08:57 PM	#3142
Katon College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Providence, RI	The "last 10-12 years" bit is also pretty vague - are we talking about players who've been around the whole time? most of the time? some of the time? In any case, I wouldn't rate Del Piero as one of the best, at least not for most definitions of 'best'. Very good, yes, but his club teams have usually revolved around someone else (Zidane/Nedved), til tonight his record in big games was fairly poor, and apart from maybe 97-98 he never really had a season where he was one of the best in the world.

07-04-2006, 10:00 PM	#3143
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	Viva Italy Viva Italy

07-04-2006, 10:03 PM	#3145
CraigSca Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Not Delaware - hurray!	Ugh. I'm not a fan for any of the final contenders. Guess I'll hope for rain. __________________ She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah! She loves you, yeah! how do you know? how do you know?

07-04-2006, 11:31 PM	#3148
Katon College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Providence, RI	I'd tend to reserve 'the best of X' for guys who had better peaks - Zidane, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, etc - but I don't think we're really disagreeing here. Never the best in the world at his position, but he was in the top 5-10 for over a decade and that's still very impressive. Just depends how broad your definition of 'best' is.

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