07-11-2008, 02:39 PM | #3051 | |
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Yeah, I get the real life stuff, like I said, I'm factoring that in to your aberrational style of play As far as what you said about olie and what you did, no, I still don't see the difference. You said (too lazy to post dig) that you thought she was just voting Telle in an effort to buy trust and vote with the village. You quoted the post earlier about "I'll vote Telle to get her lynched" (paraphrase). Those are similar in my mind, only you actually seemed to want to steer the conversation onto someone else where as I didn't get the vibe from olie that she wanted to necessarily argue for an alternative, but that she just didn't agree (initially). It's one thing to vote against the village. It's another to argue against the village (and vote). Granted, you both in the end switched back, but by then it was all meaningless (around Sal's vote) so far as I can tell. |
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07-11-2008, 02:40 PM | #3052 | |
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but, all I'd said to you before that post was "what about hoops spying on her?" -- is that what you meant by me "jumping your shit"? |
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07-11-2008, 02:40 PM | #3053 | |
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Because somewhere in that large group of people are the wolves, people who deserve the vote a whole lot more than I do. Like the 3 people I named for starters. I'm just saying your logic in putting a vote on me doesn't make sense when you are admitting there is only one reason to doubt me and that reason applies to a lot of people. |
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07-11-2008, 02:41 PM | #3054 | |
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Agreed. I personally think Tyrith (and ergo clap) should go there to wrap that up. |
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07-11-2008, 02:42 PM | #3055 | |
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You had said something else that had rubbed me the wrong way - don't remember what it is without going back and looking - and I was irritated that you were hounding me for doing the same thing you had done...change your vote. |
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07-11-2008, 02:45 PM | #3056 | |
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You don't have to factor it in -- if it affects the game, it does. It's not like I need some kind of pass for it. You don't have to dig up the posts if you don't want to, but I don't think you'll find that I had a serious intent to get Alan lynched. If I were trying to get people to follow me in an attempt to save Telle, why would I choose Alan? My stated intent was to make sure Telle got lynched. It seemed to me like olie had the opposite intent, and only changed her mind when pressed. |
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07-11-2008, 02:45 PM | #3057 |
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No offense really meant to people, but I'm tired of the "I have eleventy hundred pages to read and I was gone 12 minutes!" or people telling me (and others) to stop posting or post less.
It ain't gonna happen. I'll post when I want to post and at the frequency I deem necessary. Sorry. Thems the breaks. This is Werewolf, not Tiddlywinks, and Spawn at that, you knew and were warned about what you signed up for. I don't want to get in a pissing match with anyone on the matter, but I want to put that out there. I do genuinely like and respect each of you, but reading that is tiring. You can keep posting it if it makes you happy, but I, just so you know, am whole-heartedly ignoring it (granted I'm gone till Tuesday anyways, so who cares, but still). |
07-11-2008, 02:46 PM | #3058 | |
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I never did that. I said that one reason I had to TRUST you wasn't that strong. |
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07-11-2008, 02:47 PM | #3059 |
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I'm and catching up now.
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07-11-2008, 02:47 PM | #3060 | |
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Could be. A lot of people accuse me of questioning them for doing the same thing I did. Usually I just want to know what their reasons were, because I suspect they're different from mine, and I find that I get a lot out of their reaction by asking about it. |
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07-11-2008, 02:49 PM | #3061 | |
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I would like to take this chance to remind everyone that a very simple/small game of WW is starting up this weekend. For those whom have joined the dead, or those who find this intimidating, I can almost guarantee that it won't match this thread's post per hour rate! /end advertisement |
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07-11-2008, 02:50 PM | #3062 | |
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07-11-2008, 02:51 PM | #3063 | |
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Knowing now that MV is not Spawn, this post does stick out to me, in re-reading. |
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07-11-2008, 02:51 PM | #3064 |
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07-11-2008, 02:52 PM | #3066 | |
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OK - so at the end of all this, do you at least admit that there are much better candidates out there besides me? We can continue to argue, or we can work together and go through posts to try to find a candidate we agree on and try to catch a bad guy. |
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07-11-2008, 02:52 PM | #3067 |
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07-11-2008, 02:52 PM | #3068 |
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07-11-2008, 02:53 PM | #3070 | |
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I got mine two nights ago. First night it said you can feel the spawn. Second night it said I am now convinced I am spawn aware. Last night revealed no new information, but there wouldn't be any unless I felt a spawn which I did not. |
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07-11-2008, 02:53 PM | #3071 | |
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If I really thought that, I wouldn't have voted for you. I'm willing to listen to arguments for other people, though. |
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07-11-2008, 02:54 PM | #3072 |
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07-11-2008, 02:54 PM | #3074 |
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Got a basketball game coming up - did anyone get hurt on away missions today?
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07-11-2008, 02:58 PM | #3075 |
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I said once in space I'd start lynching people as there won't be any more conversions after whatever spawnlings that currently are planted turn into spawn..
I may or may not be back more this afternoon, but like I said earlier, I'd rather us get a chance to scan Saldana before we lynch him (maybe I am just feeling guilty from the last game and finally I'm getting soft)... So either Passacaglia because of heebie jeebies or LSG because of poor results... I said I am trying to not run my game this time based on gut feelings so guess I'll vote LSG as she had the worst mission, her reaction yesterday during the earlier stages of the Telle lynch wern't very good based on the final result and her role isn't necessarily vital for this ship surviving right now Vote Lonestargirl |
07-11-2008, 03:01 PM | #3076 | ||
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Here is LSG"s vote, coming when it was already 8-1 Telle. It's a back-breaker vote for Telle, but it came in a way, after 8 was reached and the deal was about sealed. The top post didn't sit right with Pass either. Hrm. |
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07-11-2008, 03:01 PM | #3077 | |
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I think there's at least a 35% chance that Olie could kick my ass. Just thought I'd share.
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07-11-2008, 03:02 PM | #3078 |
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FYI: I'm leaving in an hour, and won't be back until after deadline. So if those planning on voting for me would do me the courtesy of doing it now, that would help me (and the village) a lot. Thanks!
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07-11-2008, 03:02 PM | #3079 | |
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I have about five minutes to catch up in the morning before work. I saw all the other engineers working on the water plant, so I sent in my order real quick so you guys didn't have to wait until I got home. I then read your message and sent a request to BK to cancel, but I guess it was too late. Please do scan me. |
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07-11-2008, 03:03 PM | #3080 |
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Unvote Passacaglia
I've got my eye on you. I personally see a differentiation between your case and Olie's, but it's not enough in the end...yet. |
07-11-2008, 03:04 PM | #3081 | |
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Yeah, I've decided to drop that line of thinking (though I bet you're still catching up and just getting to that post anyhow) |
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07-11-2008, 03:04 PM | #3082 | |
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That's true, it didn't -- I thought about saying that Alan had a good "heebie-jeebie" reason to vote LSG, too. Anyway, I just thought it was strange that she voted for Telle after speaking out against voting for her earlier. |
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07-11-2008, 03:06 PM | #3083 | |
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It doesn't bother me. This is an awesome ruleset but as someone said earlier they didn't realize the "time intensive" aspect is what it is in such a game. I'd be really frustrated if I couldn't keep up and felt like I was scanning multiple pages -- especially when there's so much cool stuff to do. I do think it's going to quiet down post-wise now that we're off the planet though. I think we start playing straight WW now.....so that means only 30 pages instead of 60.
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07-11-2008, 03:06 PM | #3084 |
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07-11-2008, 03:08 PM | #3085 | |
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Actually, while Mccollins was a wolf, he really did make an innocent mistake in regards to that. He was referring to telle who he never sent a PM too because she was not a wolf. |
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07-11-2008, 03:11 PM | #3086 |
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Ok, so that's my look into LSG. She went out on Missions on Day 2 and 4. So she's a flat 25% chance at Spawn, disregarding conversion on-ship (15% + 10%)
Now let's look at Sal. He's got the starting 15% plus 3 missions for a total of 45% at being Spawnling and 35% at being Spawn (at this point) Mission 1 - 16 crys Mission 2 - no mission (slave roundup) Mission 3 - 33 Crys Mission 4 - ~20 crys So the real key is Mission 3. He goes out, with no scientist, with just slaves and at a *crucial* juncture when we needed lots of Crys and he could've faked it here and blamed it on the slaves. Instead he gets our biggest haul. I think I much prefer a scan of Saldana tomorrow than I do to his lynching today. |
07-11-2008, 03:12 PM | #3087 |
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07-11-2008, 03:14 PM | #3088 |
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Yeah this all adds up to
Vote LoneStarGirl 25% Spawn at this moment, 35% Spawn after today. THat's only 10% better than Saldana's chances. I think he's easily made that difference up in performance on missions and in general behavior, especially last night. |
07-11-2008, 03:14 PM | #3089 | |
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If it's three missions, wouldn't you say his chance of NOT being spawn is 0.85* 0.9 * 0.9 * 0.9 = 0.62? I'm not sure where the 15% comes from, though -- is that 3 divided by the number of players? |
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07-11-2008, 03:15 PM | #3090 | |
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I agree, let's get the pens fixed and the slaves dead. I will actually be around, so I will wait on my orders until I know for sure what those who will not be around to change will be fixing. |
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07-11-2008, 03:25 PM | #3091 | |
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Yeah, I don't worry about it too much because I feel pretty good about you since we've worked together three times and you haven't been revealed as a spawn. I do have a question for BK though. BK, I noticed there is a spawn ability to block someone's passive ability. Would I get a message if this happened to me? |
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07-11-2008, 03:26 PM | #3092 | |
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Yeah, I was just using the crude chances 15% to start (worst case, ahem, 3 starting spawn and 20 people who aren't me, Alan (cleared) and KWhit (cleared). 10% just since it's the base amount. Realistically when comparing one person's chances to another, the difference in the methods is minimal. Yours results in a 38% Spawn chance for Sal and 31ish% for LSG. Mine is 45% for Sal and 35% for LSG. The ratio there isn't all that dissimilar (1.23:1 and 1.29:1), or at least not enough so that it's worth the multiplication. |
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07-11-2008, 03:27 PM | #3093 |
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07-11-2008, 03:28 PM | #3094 |
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I guess I skimmed over it, I'll look for it
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07-11-2008, 03:29 PM | #3096 | |
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This one?? |
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07-11-2008, 03:31 PM | #3097 |
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07-11-2008, 03:33 PM | #3098 | |
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That's cool. Funny thing is, I don't take that much stock in the numbers game -- I mean, anyone looking at them agree who has the higher chance of being spawn based on the data -- the rest is just nit-picking. |
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07-11-2008, 03:35 PM | #3099 |
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Whoo! Our offer was accepted! Now we just have to hope we made the right decision to buy it, and won't feel like we paid too much!
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