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View Poll Results: Who will (not should) be the Democratic presidential nominee in 2008? | |||
Joe Biden | 0 | 0% | |
Hillary Clinton | 62 | 35.84% | |
Christopher Dodd | 0 | 0% | |
John Edwards | 10 | 5.78% | |
Mike Gravel | 1 | 0.58% | |
Dennis Kucinich | 2 | 1.16% | |
Barack Obama | 97 | 56.07% | |
Bill Richardson | 1 | 0.58% | |
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06-07-2008, 12:34 PM | #3001 |
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Reading the long analysis summary on cnn, what do you think the turning in her campaign was? Iowa? Super Tuesday? Missouri? Indiana/NC?
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06-07-2008, 12:38 PM | #3002 | |
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I don't see that happening unless she gets the VP nod or some bone thrown to her during the convention (key note speech, maybe?). Last edited by SFL Cat : 06-07-2008 at 12:49 PM. |
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06-07-2008, 12:51 PM | #3003 | |
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My own brief answer: turning point was super tuesday and straw that broke the camel's back was Indiana/NC.
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06-07-2008, 01:06 PM | #3004 |
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Obama certainly picked up most of his momentum from Super Tuesday, and Clinton was playing catchup after that.
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06-07-2008, 01:21 PM | #3005 | |
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Wow... that was a great speech by Clinton.
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While she didn't explicitly say it that way, he was quiet obvious, talking about how much better things would have been if Democrats were in the White House to push issues like civil liberties.
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06-07-2008, 01:40 PM | #3006 |
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Buc: Iowa. That allowed African-American voters to believe that he could actually win. They shifted for him in SC and after that win he dominated a key constituency of the primary.
You can go back further, though, if you'd like. Her Iraq vote and failure to renounce it gave Obama a niche for his campaign. The obscene amount of money she threw away in her Senate reelection could have been put to good use in the primary. Hiring Mark Penn guaranteed a loss.
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06-07-2008, 01:45 PM | #3007 |
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Transcript of the speech:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/07/us...t-clinton.html It's a bit long, so I won't post it here.
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06-08-2008, 12:28 PM | #3008 | |
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I don't think it has very much at all to do with her being a woman. I was talking to someone at my work before the caucus here in Kansas and she asked "Do you think a woman can win the Presidency right now". And I'll stand by my response: "Of course, just not this one." I mean, really, in a country that is pretty much 50/50 men/women and all have the right to vote. Why in the heck would being one or the other be a huge disadvantage? It's just that because women in power is a fairly recent phenomenon that they don't have the "infrastructure"- only a few women senators, representatives, and governors- so the pool of "qualified candidates" is much smallter than men. But that will change and is already changing. It's just that these things take some time. SI
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07-23-2008, 07:09 PM | #3009 |
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Still wide open, don't you think?
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08-12-2008, 03:46 PM | #3010 |
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Here's the Clinton post-mortem: The Front-Runner’s Fall
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10-15-2008, 09:12 AM | #3011 |
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