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02-23-2007, 03:54 PM | #2952 |
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02-23-2007, 09:34 PM | #2953 |
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Thanks to everyone for the questions. Path and Alan may continue to answer them as the weekend goes on. Members of the jury, please let me know your votes sometime this weekend by Sunday at 10 PM.
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02-23-2007, 09:39 PM | #2954 |
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02-24-2007, 09:01 AM | #2956 |
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This could be good. A textsim-werewolf-playing-geek-fight!
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02-24-2007, 09:31 AM | #2957 |
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02-24-2007, 10:15 AM | #2958 |
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I'm out of town and haven't had a chance to access until now. Catching up.
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02-24-2007, 10:22 AM | #2959 |
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I guess for me it was my response to when JE pressed Alan about how we knew about ITC being under heat. I didn't blame him at all for doing what he did because it was certain we would have to play against each other at some point, and in fact was going to let it go and likely get voted off. However as the discussion developed JE started to get more questions and so I decided to play back. That unfortunately got JE lynched but it also got me trusted. Right after that I sided against St.Cronin in the vote between he and Alan which also played against what Alan thought I would have done as a wolf and increased my trust level. I don't think I was seriously mentioned as a vote possibllity after that.
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02-24-2007, 10:28 AM | #2960 | |
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1) I can't answer that question. Alan always drives a lot of conversation, won a bunch of challenges to keep himself alive, did a lot of work in the team challenges. We both played good games, otherwise we wouldn't be here. 2) My big mistake this game was the situation with you and Anxiety at the end. I felt sure that I had pissed you off enough that you were going to toss the game to the villagers and I was sick about it. I did everything I could to try and repair that but it was a huge mistake. We should have gotten together as a team and decided how to play that.
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02-24-2007, 10:31 AM | #2961 | |
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Truth is that I would have killed Alan the last night but he still had immunity (it lasted through the vote and into the night). Only choice I had was KWhit.
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02-24-2007, 10:37 AM | #2962 | |
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My favorite by far was the poetry challenge for a couple reasons. First, I enjoy writing and even though poetry isn't my deal it was a lot of fun to try and come up with the different forms. Second, the original Howard tribe got along very well I thought and that was the day more than any other where we were all into it and really had a lot of fun bouncing ideas off of each other. My least favorite was the wiki. Count me in the group that had that feel like a book report, plus most of us are FM players and didn't have much if any experience in the sims that were available. In the end we completely failed that one.
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02-24-2007, 10:39 AM | #2963 | |
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Yeah, my actual night order was kill Alan if I could but if not then KWhit.
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02-24-2007, 10:46 AM | #2964 | |
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Basically, we couldn't vote for KWhit or Alan. I PM'd Anxiety privately asking if he wanted to form an alliance, mainly just because I know him better and I feel that we kind of see the game the same way. He agreed. A couple of hours later SnDvls PM'd me asking to form an alliance. I didn't want to lie to a fellow wolf, so I told him straight up that I had already cut a deal. He was understandably upset and you all saw what followed. I offered myself up to have Sn and Abe move forward but Barkeep told me that I couldn't vote for myself. It was a blunder on my part not to openly discuss between the three of us and fortunately Sn was gracious enough to understand and after it was all over we moved forward as a team. We couldn't remember if KWhit had prior votes on him, we were hopeful he had since we were pretty sure it was going to be 2-2 that final day.
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02-24-2007, 10:50 AM | #2965 | |
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Because Alan got you killed earlier by winning immunity?
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02-24-2007, 06:30 PM | #2966 |
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02-24-2007, 07:56 PM | #2967 |
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02-24-2007, 10:37 PM | #2968 |
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02-24-2007, 11:21 PM | #2969 |
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02-25-2007, 08:45 AM | #2970 |
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02-25-2007, 08:54 AM | #2971 |
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You may have just lost mine. There is no room for lovers on Survivor.
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02-25-2007, 03:17 PM | #2972 | |
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Beating up an old man? Cold.......
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02-25-2007, 08:49 PM | #2973 |
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I am going to go get the votes. The person who has received 3 votes will be named our FOFC Werewolf Survivor.
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02-25-2007, 08:51 PM | #2974 | |
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02-25-2007, 08:54 PM | #2975 |
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Go go Alan T!
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02-25-2007, 09:00 PM | #2976 | |
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02-25-2007, 09:15 PM | #2977 | |
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02-25-2007, 09:15 PM | #2978 |
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you know what would be cool, if barkep waited 9 minutes between each vote so there would be some suspense about who won.
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02-25-2007, 09:16 PM | #2979 | |
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02-25-2007, 09:20 PM | #2980 | |
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02-25-2007, 09:21 PM | #2981 |
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congrats alant on a well played game
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02-25-2007, 09:22 PM | #2982 |
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Early feedback: When we started, just three days in the month had passed. At the end, there are just three days left in the month. It essentially took an entire month. It really felt like it at times too.
Definitely a marathon.
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All threads have been restored. Feel free to read them at your leisure. There's some good stuff in there and a lot of mundane stuff as well. Last edited by Barkeep49 : 02-25-2007 at 09:32 PM. |
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02-25-2007, 09:29 PM | #2984 |
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I just want to know what AE posted in them
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02-25-2007, 09:37 PM | #2985 |
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Congrats Alan. Well done. Thanks again to Barkeep and everyone else.
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02-25-2007, 09:39 PM | #2986 |
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Yeah, I'm sure BK was frustrated by us at times. Thanks BK!
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02-25-2007, 09:51 PM | #2987 |
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I think this is more about me than Barkeep, but more often in his games than in other complex games do I find myself just totally baffled. There were several points in the game that I just couldn't figure out what I was supposed to do.
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02-25-2007, 09:57 PM | #2988 |
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cronin: I have to admit that this surprises me. You clearly were baffled at the start of the game and that surprised me. While it was not a typical WW game, I didn't think of it as complex. I mean actually the WW part of it is BY far the most straight forward of any of my large games. So I guess what I'm saying is: you're dumber than I thought
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02-25-2007, 09:57 PM | #2989 |
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I think the game was a fun concept, and the idea was certainly an interesting twist. The challenges were generally interesting, albeit largely from an outsider's perspective. Overall the game was run well, and BK deserves mad props for keeping the game afloat with all the crap that happened.
That said, I have a few critiques. I did not like how the players were largely clueless as to what was going on. Even during the brief time I was playing it rapidly became frustrating. And as Anxiety mentioned, the game just dragged on a long time, and after so long it's hard to stay engaged -- this also seemed to come up during the last really long game, Tombstone. The game would probably also have had more impact if it hadn't come right after another crazy game. I dunno. I was having fun at least until the giant mess started. |
02-25-2007, 10:03 PM | #2990 | |
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You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time. Seriously, I think in this game part of it came from not knowing anything about Survivor. So the concepts of, for example, Challenge and Immunity were completely alien to me. I don't know if I'm the only one in that boat, or not. But, I also remember in one of your games a long time ago, that most of the analysis went right over my head, and and in another game I had to work very hard to keep up. So I think there's some part of the mind that your games are designed to appeal to, and my mind is just not very developed in that respect. I did enjoy this game, once the werewolf part of it came into play. That part was fun. |
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02-25-2007, 10:05 PM | #2991 |
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I can;t say anything about AlanT's next large game, but mine is after that, and it will have areturn to simpler mechanics. It will be, mechanically, my easiest game outside of small games that I've done. It will be complex in non-mechanical ways, though
I think there were times when we as players let BK down by not really participating in challenges (the wiki one, ie). To be fair, BK was always upfront about the game, but I still think a lot of players expected more WW and less survivor. I thought BK did as well as one could under the circumstances, however, I doubt I'll play in any future survivor/WW hyrbid games. It just never felt right.
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02-25-2007, 10:07 PM | #2992 |
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One of the reasons I think the game lasted as long as it did was because of the limitations put on the wolves. Since we could only kill members of our own tribe, it didn't make sense to take anyone out (especially those of us in the smaller tribes) until much later in the game.
A minor complaint I have was in the very first challenge. Since two tribes had the benefit of having an extra member, there was no way Howard or Lupus was going to avoid being in the bottom two of that first challenge. By both of us losing a member right away, that put us at a serious disadvantage for the rest of the game, and it was something that we had to fight the entire game. All in all, though, I really enjoyed this game, and I thank Barkeep for running it. |
02-25-2007, 10:09 PM | #2993 |
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The wolf thing really surprised me. If I had remained in the game it was my intention to begin tearing into my tribemates either the night I left or the next night. Although in the end I think the lack of wolf activity really helped the wolves in the long run becuase if left the villagers so confused.
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02-25-2007, 10:10 PM | #2994 |
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Oh, and congrats to Alan for winning.
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02-25-2007, 10:11 PM | #2995 |
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Somebody please explain RA's play to me. It made no sense to me then, makes no sense now.
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02-25-2007, 10:11 PM | #2996 |
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Also, were the wolves in communication from the start or not?
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02-25-2007, 10:12 PM | #2997 |
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No. As alpha, I had no idea who else was a wolf. All I could do was search for another wolf, kill, or pass the action down the chain.
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02-25-2007, 10:12 PM | #2998 |
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Congrats AlanT.
Question for the other wolves: What did you think when it came out that I told my tribe what we could do? |
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