*World Cup Game Discussion Thread* (SPOILERS) - Page 60

Easy Mac · 07-01-2006, 11:26 AM

Ronaldo just took 4 rolls. Seriously, how is that not a card? If I was Rooney, I would have punched someone on my way out. fuck it, i already have a red, make it worth something.

Crapshoot · 07-01-2006, 11:26 AM

Even the English commentators aren't complaining about the red - it was stamping on the crotch, and that's a red.

ISiddiqui · 07-01-2006, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cschex

He gave a red for Rooney kicking Carvalho in the crotch, right in front of the ref.

No it was for the shove afterwards.

cschex · 07-01-2006, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy Mac

the red wasn't for stepping on him. watch the ref, all he did was signal for the foul. the ref doesn't wait 10 seconds signalling a foul if he intends to card someone.

Actually, he does if he's waiting for the players to clear the area and to get control of the situation. Look at the ref on the replay, he's right there. There's no way he gave the red for the push. He was already looking straight at Rooney.

cschex · 07-01-2006, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

No it was for the shove afterwards.

Dola.

Look, no one on the English team complained or reacted, neither did Rooney. Do you think that would be the case if it was just for a shove?

ISiddiqui · 07-01-2006, 11:29 AM

Like said, the ref doesn't wait 10 seconds for carding someone. He'd be reaching for the card right away.

And seeing how they were jostling for position when Rooney gets him in the crotch, it'd be the WORST. RED. EVER. I doubt that was the case.

ISiddiqui · 07-01-2006, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by cschex

Dola.

Look, no one on the English team complained or reacted, neither did Rooney. Do you think that would be the case if it was just for a shove?

Dude, Carvalho pulled Rooney down and he accidentally get Carvalho in the croch. If it was for that, I'd expect a freaking riot on the field!

Easy Mac · 07-01-2006, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cschex

Actually, he does if he's waiting for the players to clear the area and to get control of the situation. Look at the ref on the replay, he's right there. There's no way he gave the red for the push. He was already looking straight at Rooney.

He was looking at the ground, saw the push and carded him. All he's doing is signaling the foul. I've never seen a ref stand there and signal a foul as a way of "controlling" the situation.

cschex · 07-01-2006, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Dude, Carvalho pulled Rooney down and he accidentally get Carvalho in the croch. If it was for that, I'd expect a freaking riot on the field!

Dude, he stood on his crotch when he was getting up. It wasn't on the way down in the course of the foul.

rexallllsc · 07-01-2006, 11:35 AM

All I know is that with what's happened in this game, and the way Portugal plays, that didn't deserve a straight RED.

If Rooney deserves a red, Maniche's "MY FACE!" dive is right there with it.

Easy Mac · 07-01-2006, 11:38 AM

portugal dives and engladn plays on and portugal gets mad. seriously, the english players have a far greater control on their temper than i do.

kingfc22 · 07-01-2006, 11:38 AM

Hehe. Love how the English just played on. They are a man down so if the Portuguese want to roll around on the ground, F-em. Just means it is 10 v 10

MrBug708 · 07-01-2006, 11:40 AM

I loved that English fan's reaction!

Easy Mac · 07-01-2006, 11:40 AM

If portugal was on the free kick, they would have dove on the reboudnd to try and get a penalty.

rexallllsc · 07-01-2006, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfc22

Hehe. Love how the English just played on. They are a man down so if the Portuguese want to roll around on the ground, F-em. Just means it is 10 v 10

As they should. That was pitiful by Simao. He played until he lost possession. 60 seconds later he put a hard shot on goal.

Easy Mac · 07-01-2006, 11:42 AM

would anyone else here cheer against the us if they played like portugal/italy (they're basically the same country)

Easy Mac · 07-01-2006, 11:43 AM

Figo getting booed. love it.

rexallllsc · 07-01-2006, 11:51 AM

I love watching Terry and Gerrard play. Lennon looks like he could become something special as well...

Crapshoot · 07-01-2006, 11:52 AM

Hargraves is looking really good - I see the English press has shut up with regards to their favorite whipping boy. But Sven's decision to take Jenas instead of Defoe is looking dumber than ever.

ISiddiqui · 07-01-2006, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cschex

Dude, he stood on his crotch when he was getting up. It wasn't on the way down in the course of the foul.

And what ref do you know looks down on the ground to call a foul, waits 10 seconds, without reaching for a card when he's giving a straight red?

ISiddiqui · 07-01-2006, 11:52 AM

I think Hargreaves has been England's Man of the Match so far.

rexallllsc · 07-01-2006, 11:53 AM

I know this would be opening a can of worms, but is there ANYTHING FIFA can do about diving players? I've seen Maniche and Henry both go to the ground clutching their faces in this tourney after not being touched anywhere near it. Henry's dive even resulted in the play which allowed a France goal.

Rooney shouldn't be stomping on people, but diving is even worse because it affects the integrity of the game.

rexallllsc · 07-01-2006, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crapshoot

Hargraves is looking really good - I see the English press has shut up with regards to their favorite whipping boy. But Sven's decision to take Jenas instead of Defoe is looking dumber than ever.

How about Walcott over Defoe?

Yes, I like seeing Hargreaves and Gerrard run step-for-step with Ronaldo.

Crapshoot · 07-01-2006, 12:05 PM

So, anyone watching this who thinks Gerrard isn't better when he's given room to run forward ?

MIJB#19 · 07-01-2006, 12:11 PM

Go England, don't let the Portugese get into the semi's!

Schmidty · 07-01-2006, 12:13 PM

Why does the crowd keep singing "My Country 'tis of Thee"?

MrBug708 · 07-01-2006, 12:14 PM

Great tackle by Portugal

tucker rocky · 07-01-2006, 12:14 PM

No penalty?!?

kingfc22 · 07-01-2006, 12:14 PM

What happened to call every tackle from behind rule?

Schmidty · 07-01-2006, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tucker rocky

No penalty?!?

He got the ball first.

MrBug708 · 07-01-2006, 12:15 PM

Damn....great play but was offsides

MrBug708 · 07-01-2006, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfc22

What happened to call every tackle from behind rule?

It wasnt from behind

MrBug708 · 07-01-2006, 12:26 PM

Im guessing Lennon
Penalty Kicks - 1

VPI97 · 07-01-2006, 12:26 PM

Why do you sub out Lennon there? Is it a PK strategy?

kingfc22 · 07-01-2006, 12:29 PM

And we got PK's

Crapshoot · 07-01-2006, 12:30 PM

We've got "penalties" - not "PK's" *Eurosnob alert*

ISiddiqui · 07-01-2006, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VPI97

Why do you sub out Lennon there? Is it a PK strategy?

Probably... I guess we'll see if Carragher is in the first 5 kickers.

Crapshoot · 07-01-2006, 12:37 PM

Why the fuck is Lampard going first ?

Crapshoot · 07-01-2006, 12:37 PM

FUCK!

ISiddiqui · 07-01-2006, 12:37 PM

I don't think they are going to let Lampard back into the country.

kingfc22 · 07-01-2006, 12:38 PM

Wide left. Give him a scholarship to FSU.

ISiddiqui · 07-01-2006, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfc22

Wide left. Give him a scholarship to FSU.

Crapshoot · 07-01-2006, 12:39 PM

Dear god, England and penalties do not inspire confidence.

kingfc22 · 07-01-2006, 12:40 PM

Nice save!

VPI97 · 07-01-2006, 12:40 PM

Didn't expect them to miss two in a row.

ISiddiqui · 07-01-2006, 12:40 PM

HAHA! Two FSU kickers for Portugal in a row

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ISiddiqui · 07-01-2006, 12:40 PM

Wow... Gerrard misses!

ISiddiqui · 07-01-2006, 12:41 PM

These guys are either really tired... or they suck ass at penalties.

kingfc22 · 07-01-2006, 12:41 PM

Gerrard didn't get that ball close enough to the post.

VPI97 · 07-01-2006, 12:42 PM

Carragher had better hit this

07-01-2006, 11:29 AM	#2956
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Like said, the ref doesn't wait 10 seconds for carding someone. He'd be reaching for the card right away. And seeing how they were jostling for position when Rooney gets him in the crotch, it'd be the WORST. RED. EVER. I doubt that was the case. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

07-01-2006, 11:38 AM	#2962
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Hehe. Love how the English just played on. They are a man down so if the Portuguese want to roll around on the ground, F-em. Just means it is 10 v 10 __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

07-01-2006, 11:52 AM	#2971
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	I think Hargreaves has been England's Man of the Match so far. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

07-01-2006, 12:11 PM	#2975
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	Go England, don't let the Portugese get into the semi's! __________________ * 2005 Golden Scribe winner for best FOF Dynasty about IHOF's Maassluis Merchantmen * Former GM of GEFL's Houston Oilers and WOOF's Curacao Cocktail

07-01-2006, 12:14 PM	#2979
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	What happened to call every tackle from behind rule? __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal Last edited by kingfc22 : 07-01-2006 at 12:15 PM.

07-01-2006, 11:26 AM	#2951
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Ronaldo just took 4 rolls. Seriously, how is that not a card? If I was Rooney, I would have punched someone on my way out. fuck it, i already have a red, make it worth something.

07-01-2006, 11:26 AM	#2952
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	Even the English commentators aren't complaining about the red - it was stamping on the crotch, and that's a red.

07-01-2006, 11:35 AM	#2960
rexallllsc Banned Join Date: May 2003	All I know is that with what's happened in this game, and the way Portugal plays, that didn't deserve a straight RED. If Rooney deserves a red, Maniche's "MY FACE!" dive is right there with it.

07-01-2006, 11:38 AM	#2961
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	portugal dives and engladn plays on and portugal gets mad. seriously, the english players have a far greater control on their temper than i do.

07-01-2006, 11:40 AM	#2963
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	I loved that English fan's reaction!

07-01-2006, 11:40 AM	#2964
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	If portugal was on the free kick, they would have dove on the reboudnd to try and get a penalty.

07-01-2006, 11:42 AM	#2966
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	would anyone else here cheer against the us if they played like portugal/italy (they're basically the same country)

07-01-2006, 11:43 AM	#2967
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Figo getting booed. love it.

07-01-2006, 11:51 AM	#2968
rexallllsc Banned Join Date: May 2003	I love watching Terry and Gerrard play. Lennon looks like he could become something special as well...

07-01-2006, 11:52 AM	#2969
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	Hargraves is looking really good - I see the English press has shut up with regards to their favorite whipping boy. But Sven's decision to take Jenas instead of Defoe is looking dumber than ever.

07-01-2006, 11:53 AM	#2972
rexallllsc Banned Join Date: May 2003	I know this would be opening a can of worms, but is there ANYTHING FIFA can do about diving players? I've seen Maniche and Henry both go to the ground clutching their faces in this tourney after not being touched anywhere near it. Henry's dive even resulted in the play which allowed a France goal. Rooney shouldn't be stomping on people, but diving is even worse because it affects the integrity of the game.

07-01-2006, 12:05 PM	#2974
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	So, anyone watching this who thinks Gerrard isn't better when he's given room to run forward ?

07-01-2006, 12:13 PM	#2976
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Why does the crowd keep singing "My Country 'tis of Thee"?

07-01-2006, 12:14 PM	#2977
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Great tackle by Portugal

07-01-2006, 12:14 PM	#2978
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	No penalty?!?

07-01-2006, 12:15 PM	#2981
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Damn....great play but was offsides

07-01-2006, 12:26 PM	#2983
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Im guessing Lennon Penalty Kicks - 1

07-01-2006, 12:26 PM	#2984
VPI97 Hokie, Hokie, Hokie, Hi Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Kennesaw, GA	Why do you sub out Lennon there? Is it a PK strategy? __________________ CT & Jivin - "Surprisingly Entertaining"

07-01-2006, 12:29 PM	#2985
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	And we got PK's __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

07-01-2006, 12:30 PM	#2986
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	We've got "penalties" - not "PK's" Eurosnob alert

07-01-2006, 12:37 PM	#2988
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	Why the fuck is Lampard going first ?

07-01-2006, 12:37 PM	#2989
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	FUCK!

07-01-2006, 12:37 PM	#2990
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	I don't think they are going to let Lampard back into the country. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

07-01-2006, 12:38 PM	#2991
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Wide left. Give him a scholarship to FSU. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

07-01-2006, 12:39 PM	#2993
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	Dear god, England and penalties do not inspire confidence.

07-01-2006, 12:40 PM	#2994
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Nice save! __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

07-01-2006, 12:40 PM	#2995
VPI97 Hokie, Hokie, Hokie, Hi Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Kennesaw, GA	Didn't expect them to miss two in a row. __________________ CT & Jivin - "Surprisingly Entertaining"

07-01-2006, 12:40 PM	#2996
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	HAHA! Two FSU kickers for Portugal in a row . __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

07-01-2006, 12:40 PM	#2997
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Wow... Gerrard misses! __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

07-01-2006, 12:41 PM	#2998
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	These guys are either really tired... or they suck ass at penalties. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams