NFL Week 3!

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by Masked

Breaks his streak of 185 games with a reception.

Which could cause an entertaining week. I wonder if T.O sets a record for time to implosion.

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by Senator

If you're smart, surround yourself with smart people who disagree with you.

Exactly. I'm not sure you understand the quote.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

No, but I doubt the Dolphins secondary could cover Susannah Hoffs.

I'd like to cover Susannah Hoffs...

[Sun Tzu]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

The Seahawks deserved to lose with those fucking unis. I know I said it before, but damn.

This is one statement that I think everybody at FOFC can agree with.

[Swaggs]

Damn... Limas Sweed is going to be thinking about that dropped TD for a long time. Particularly if the Steelers are on the wrong side of the playoff bubble at the end of the season.

Steelers' pass rush has been pretty subpar to this point. I'm not sure, but it doesn't seem like Polamalu's return will help and I think that is their biggest problem (well, along w/ being unable to run, but they won the SB w/o being able to run).

[MikeVic]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Damn... Limas Sweed is going to be thinking about that dropped TD for a long time. Particularly if the Steelers are on the wrong side of the playoff bubble at the end of the season.

Steelers' pass rush has been pretty subpar to this point. I'm not sure, but it doesn't seem like Polamalu's return will help and I think that is their biggest problem (well, along w/ being unable to run, but they won the SB w/o being able to run).

Which is so surprising to me (their pass rush). I figured with Woodley and Harrison back, and Timmons now starting... they'd be even better. Maybe they just need Polamalu back there as moral support too? I don't know. The offense needs to finish.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

This is one statement that I think everybody at FOFC can agree with.

Nope. The Seahawks unis look perfect for them. They are hideous, but the fact that they retired the # 12 for the "twelth man, our fans) has always made me want to vomit up something that looks like those jerseys.

Joey Harrington would look good in one of those.

[Sun Tzu]

Didn't you just post in the drunk guy thread?

vetoed

[Butter]

Originally Posted by MikeVic

What a bad feeling, losing to the Bengals.

Buck up, it's not as bad a feeling as it is for Bengals fans to watch the Steelers win like the last 18 Super Bowls. THAT pisses you off right there.

Oh but for that fluke play vs. Denver, the Bengals would be 3-0.

On another note, the Broncos are the worst 3-0 team in NFL history. The last second pass to beat Cincy, then they take care of the Browns and Raiders, who will fight each other for the #1 pick this year.

[Radii]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Browns and Raiders, who will fight each other for the #1 pick this year.

Kansas City and dare I say Tampa Bay may be in the mix here as well, but yeah, I agree with you on Denver in general.

[Lathum]

Giants are the best team in the NFL. Period.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Giants are the best team in the NFL. Period.

The way the Giants walloped the Redskins was impressive.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

The way the Giants walloped the Redskins was impressive.

They eased up on them, week one, Redskins got a late TD.

Giants were in control the whole time.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Damn... Limas Sweed is going to be thinking about that dropped TD for a long time. Particularly if the Steelers are on the wrong side of the playoff bubble at the end of the season.

Steelers' pass rush has been pretty subpar to this point. I'm not sure, but it doesn't seem like Polamalu's return will help and I think that is their biggest problem (well, along w/ being unable to run, but they won the SB w/o being able to run).

Can Shaun McDonald be a worse option at this point? He's not a deep threat, but he'll convert some first downs.

Count me as part of the group who thought no way Mike Wallace could challenge Sweed for the 3rd WR spot, when all we heard was how raw Wallace was. He's been really impressive.

[Senator]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Exactly. I'm not sure you understand the quote.

I am not sure you understand who you are talking to.

[MikeVic]

I think the Ravens and Jets right now are very good as well, in the discussion for the best team right now.

[RedKingGold]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Giants are the best team in the NFL. Period.

Too bad they don't hand out trophies after Week 3.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by MikeVic

I think the Ravens and Jets right now are very good as well, in the discussion for the best team right now.

I agree they both are very solid. I just think the Giants win at the Cowboys and pitching a shutout on the road put them ahead.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Too bad they don't hand out trophies after Week 3.

what's your point exactly?

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by Lathum

what's your point exactly?

Who cares if the Giants are the best team after week 3, a point which I disagree with. It only matters who is the best in a few months.

[RedKingGold]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Who cares if the Giants are the best team after week 3, a point which I disagree with. It only matters who is the best in a few months.

Yup. Beating the Redskins, Cowboys, and Buccaneers is nothing exactly to write home about, methinks.

If the Cards beat the Cowboys tonight, then it's easy to say that the Giants have played one of the easiest early schedules in the league.

Not to mention that getting too excited or too down about your team after only three weeks is foolish. Hell, everyone gave up on the Eagles after Week 12(13? 16? 17?) last year, and they rode to the NFC Championship game, beating the oh-so-dominant Giants along the way. "shrug"

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

Can Shaun McDonald be a worse option at this point? He's not a deep threat, but he'll convert some first downs.

Count me as part of the group who thought no way Mike Wallace could challenge Sweed for the 3rd WR spot, when all we heard was how raw Wallace was. He's been really impressive.

Wallace has been way better at getting open on 3rd downs and going over the middle than I ever envisioned he would (even after some experience). When we picked him, I pictured a guy we would send deep 4-5 times a game to open up things underneath and maybe throw deep to every game or two.

McDonald seems like he can be a reliable inside guy that can make some first down grabs. I haven't given up on Sweed yet -- the talent to get open is there (again, kind of like with Nate W. in the early years), but he needs to put it all together soon or he probably won't be in the Steelers' long term plans.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Who cares if the Giants are the best team after week 3, a point which I disagree with. It only matters who is the best in a few months.

and in a few months we can discuss that, but since this is a week 3 discussion I see no reason to not discuss who is the best team currently.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Yup. Beating the Redskins, Cowboys, and Buccaneers is nothing exactly to write home about, methinks.

If the Cards beat the Cowboys tonight, then it's easy to say that the Giants have played one of the easiest early schedules in the league.

3-0

2-0 in the division, including a road win.

A shut out on the road with a banged up defense, which in the NFL is huge no matter who you play.

1 INT in 3 games by Eli.

[Swaggs]

Unfortunately, I think the Ravens look like the best team in the AFC (perhaps the NFL). I hate being 2 games back of them at this point.

It will be interesting to see how some of their older guys can hold up throughout the season, but right now they look pretty legit.

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

This is one statement that I think everybody at FOFC can agree with.

You'd be wrong.

[Lathum]

I think the Saints also need to be in the best team discussion

[RedKingGold]

Originally Posted by Lathum

3-0

2-0 in the division, including a road win.

A shut out on the road with a banged up defense, which in the NFL is huge no matter who you play.

1 INT in 3 games by Eli.

I didn't say that the Giants were not a "good" team. In fact, I think they're the best team in the division at this point.

But I also do not think they are the best team in the NFL at this point. I think most people would take Baltimore and the Jets over the Giants.

Baltimore's offense has been extremely good to go with their always strong defense. In my opinion, we'll be really impressed with the three teams the Jets have beaten early on this season at the end of the year. I'd probably put the Saints over the Giants as well, but that's a coin-flip. I think most would argue that Vikings/Giants is a coin-flip as well.

Throw in the Colts (who knows how they'll end up tonight), and it's no slam dunk that the Giants are the best team at this point.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by RedKingGold

I didn't say that the Giants were not a "good" team. In fact, I think they're the best team in the division at this point.

But I also do not think they are the best team in the NFL at this point. I think most people would take Baltimore and the Jets over the Giants.

Baltimore's offense has been extremely good to go with their always strong defense. In my opinion, we'll be really impressed with the three teams the Jets have beaten early on this season at the end of the year. I'd probably put the Saints over the Giants as well, but that's a coin-flip. I think most would argue that Vikings/Giants is a coin-flip as well.

Throw in the Colts (who knows how they'll end up tonight), and its no slam dunk that the Giants are the best team at this point.

I would agree with all of this, everyone has bad wins if that makes sense. Honestly I think the Jets are the most impressive so far with their wins.

We all know I get a little excited.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Yup. Beating the Redskins, Cowboys, and Buccaneers is nothing exactly to write home about, methinks.

If the Cards beat the Cowboys tonight, then it's easy to say that the Giants have played one of the easiest early schedules in the league.

Not to mention that getting too excited or too down about your team after only three weeks is foolish. Hell, everyone gave up on the Eagles after Week 12(13? 16? 17?) last year, and they rode to the NFC Championship game, beating the oh-so-dominant Giants along the way. "shrug"

I really doubt that will happen.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Unfortunately, I think the Ravens look like the best team in the AFC (perhaps the NFL). I hate being 2 games back of them at this point.

It will be interesting to see how some of their older guys can hold up throughout the season, but right now they look pretty legit.

I agree with this. Ravens, Vikings, and Giants are the best teams at this point. All 3 have great defenses and a solid running game. The Ravens have learned to score points this year, scary thought for the rest of the NFL.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I really doubt that will happen.

Haha, yeah Im willing to one up you and say there is no way this will happen.

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by MikeVic

Sweed is useless!!!

Hey!!!

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

The 49ers could have easily blown out the Vikes if it weren't for the kickoff returned for a TD and a miracle last second hail mary.

The 49ers had one crazy bounce go their way that resulted in a TD. The Vikes had two. Next time you watch the game take off your purple sunglasses, you might see two teams playing.

Did the 49ers even have a yard in the first half? And where were these crazy bounces you talk about? The Vikings drafted Harvin because of his big play ability and signed Favre for is veteran leadership and ability to carry a team inside of 2 minutes. They arent the miracle plays you want to think they are. You go ahead and tell the 49ers front office to draft speed and then you tell me if big plays are so unusual.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I know it's been a few hours, but I just got to the computer after going to the Lions game. The stadium was only about 75% full, but really got loud when it needed to.

It was great to see them finally win a game. Stafford still has some accuracy issues, but he showed some progress today. He didn't force anything, taking sacks and throwing it away when he had to, and threw to spectacular passes, the touchdown to Bryant Johnson and the pass at the end of the game to Heller. He still has some accuracy issues, however, missing some open receivers.

The Lions started 5 rookies today: Stafford, Pettigrew, Delmas, Sammie-Lee Hill and Deandre Levy. This is something that the old regime never did. They didn't let the young kids play. It's good to see, at least you know if they can play or not. Levy was really good out there today. He made a couple of key plays. Not bad for his first game.

The Lions ran the ball really well. Smith was on his way for a career day until he got hurt. They also shut the 'Skins run game down completely.

The Lions are now 2-0 when I'm at Ford Field.

I walked by Katie Holmes while in the stadium. She and Tom (and Suri) were at the game. I guess they are friends with Dan Snyder, though some guy said he saw Tom Cruise doing a fist pump after the Lions won.

[kcchief19]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

... Browns and Raiders, who will fight each other for the #1 pick this year.

Originally Posted by Radii

Kansas City and dare I say Tampa Bay may be in the mix here as well, but yeah, I agree with you on Denver in general.

Mark your calendars for week 14 when Cleveland travels to Kansas City. Have two 0-13 teams ever met? I put the odds right now of this happening at 65%.

Tampay Bay seems like giant killers compared to KC, Cleveland and St. Louis. The Raiders actually have a decent defense but JaMarcus Russell is without a doubt the new Ryan Leaf. I don't blame him -- he's getting no coaching, but like others before him it's too late to fix him.

Between St. Louis and the loser of the KC/Cleveland game, we have two great 0-16 contenders. Oakland is destined to win two (they already won in KC) and Tampa will find a way to win 1 or 2.

[RedKingGold]

Oh, and Faith Hill is hot.

[kcchief19]

And on further review, it looks like Brian Waters will win his bet with Todd Haley over whether 53 guys off the street can win two games in the NFL.

[kcchief19]

Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Oh, and Faith Hill is hot.

Really? I was just thinking watching the opening that her hotness has declined precipitously.

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I really doubt that will happen.

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Haha, yeah Im willing to one up you and say there is no way this will happen.

You 2 beat me to it, I was ready to offer up a signature bet....

[Tigercat]

Saints playing the two New York teams in their next two games should give us a good idea at who is the best team in the early NFL season.

[RedKingGold]

Originally Posted by kcchief19

Really? I was just thinking watching the opening that her hotness has declined precipitously.

Really? I was just thinking reading your post that your heterosexuality has declined precipitously.

[Coffee Warlord]

Cutler with two huge 4th quarter performances in his first three games. I stand pleased.

Though our offensive line really, REALLY needs to open a hole for the running game sometime, ever.

[Radii]

Originally Posted by Tigercat

Saints playing the two New York teams in their next two games should give us a good idea at who is the best team in the early NFL season.

oo, saints/jets has me looking forward to next week already, awesome.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Really? I was just thinking reading your post that your heterosexuality has declined precipitously.

Well, you'd certainly know a lot about that...

[Passacaglia]

The tight end around -- brilliant!

[Pumpy Tudors]

the broncos are the best team in the nfl right now

3-0, winning their last two games against west virginia state and geneva college, and then that last second magical play against the bengals and the bengals just beat the super bowl champion steelers and the steelers beat the titans who had the best record last year and had won a division that has peyton manning in it who won a super bowl that one time and so did his brother eli who plays for the giants so the the titans are clearly better than both of those teams and oh yeah jacksonville is also in that division and they are not the best because they dont have brett favre but brett favre only won because greg lewis caught the ball and greg lewis was cut by the patriots earlier so the patriots are clearly no good but they beat atlanta who made the playoffs last year and denver beat atlanta in a super bowl like 11 or 12 years ago so denver is the best

and brandon jacobs wears army boots

go broncos

[Sun Tzu]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Did the 49ers even have a yard in the first half? And where were these crazy bounces you talk about? The Vikings drafted Harvin because of his big play ability and signed Favre for is veteran leadership and ability to carry a team inside of 2 minutes. They arent the miracle plays you want to think they are. You go ahead and tell the 49ers front office to draft speed and then you tell me if big plays are so unusual.

The two plays I mentioned are no more/less about talent then a blocked field goal returned for a TD.

Tell the 49ers to draft speed? Who are you Al Davis? Yeah, that's a great strategy.

Lets not forget that the 49ers were without the best player on their team throughout the game (Gore - 1 carry for 3 yards). How would this game have looked without Favre, or without Peterson? The Vikings beat the Lions and Browns in come from behind victories, and the 49ers on a hail mary with :02 left.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Did the 49ers even have a yard in the first half? And where were these crazy bounces you talk about? The Vikings drafted Harvin because of his big play ability and signed Favre for is veteran leadership and ability to carry a team inside of 2 minutes. They arent the miracle plays you want to think they are. You go ahead and tell the 49ers front office to draft speed and then you tell me if big plays are so unusual.

You're telling me that a 101-yard Punt Return and that catch by Greg Lewis aren't unusual?

I think it's pretty crappy that people are taking what was a great game played by both teams and trying to turn it into "well, the other team sucked and shouldn't have been in it." I mean, check this post from a Vikings blog after the game:

Originally Posted by Chucks Nucks

Wow,
What a finish. We dominated those losers and deserved the win. Frank Gore would not have even made a difference had he been healthy. It just shows that the cream rises and the dirt sinks to the bottom. They did not even belong on the same field with us. A truly dominating performance by us despite the deceivingly close score. For the Vikes, Super Bowl baby! For the Niners, bottom of the west baby! Niners, your story book season is over, next week = a victory for the Rams!

I just don't even know what to say. The 49er Defense was incredibly impressive up until the very end of the game. Shaun Hill played a very good game, and the Niners didn't fold even though they were without their most talented offensive player for nearly the entire game. The Vikings pulled this game out by the skin of their teeth, and good on them for not giving up...but to say that the Niners didn't belong on the same field is just ridiculous.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

The two plays I mentioned are no more/less about talent then a blocked field goal returned for a TD.

Tell the 49ers to draft speed? Who are you Al Davis? Yeah, that's a great strategy.

Lets not forget that the 49ers were without the best player on their team throughout the game (Gore - 1 carry for 3 yards). How would this game have looked without Favre, or without Peterson? The Vikings beat the Lions and Browns in come from behind victories, and the 49ers on a hail mary with :02 left.

Im not sure that I understand this post at all. You are complaining about 2 big plays the Vikings had but yet you are also mocking speed??? Harvin is a playmaker he is going to return kicks for touchdowns. He actually has had a long return in each game so its not unusual that he broke one. Favre has a long history of bringing teams back in the final minute Ive seen him do it to my Vikings numerous times. So again not that unusual.

I really dont think Gore would have made much of a difference. You beat the Vikings though the air and you seen that later in the game. It might have actually helped the niners as they didnt feel a need to run the ball so much and get little to nothing from it.

Come from behind victories? They beat the Browns by 20+ and the Lions by 14. I guess you can call it what you want but the Vikings easily won them games.

And yes the 49ers are a good team. They played like shit in the first half and somehow had the lead but they were far from the better team. Vikings outgained them by over 200 yards.